Dunne is an old man - unable to make up his mind, confused and
bewildered, and consistent in his lack of consistency.
This is a decision that should have been easily made the other way,
but he believes he knows best, and while National are happy to leave
such decisions to him, he wields his capricious power . . .. >https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/helen-kellys-medical-marijuana-bid-rejected
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 17:06:10 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Dunne is an old man - unable to make up his mind, confused and
bewildered, and consistent in his lack of consistency.
This is a decision that should have been easily made the other way,
but he believes he knows best, and while National are happy to leave
such decisions to him, he wields his capricious power . . .. >>https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/helen-kellys-medical-marijuana-bid-rejected
What is this to do with Peter Dunne? There is no mention of him. This
is about Helen Kelly and the Ministry of Health. The MOH has not
granted the permission sought because of 'insufficient information'.
There is no mention of Dunne being involved.
I support Helen Kelly and I hope she continues the battle.
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 17:06:10 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Dunne is an old man - unable to make up his mind, confused and
bewildered, and consistent in his lack of consistency.
This is a decision that should have been easily made the other way,
but he believes he knows best, and while National are happy to leave
such decisions to him, he wields his capricious power . . ..
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/helen-kellys-medical-marijuana-bid-rejected
What is this to do with Peter Dunne? There is no mention of him. This
is about Helen Kelly and the Ministry of Health. The MOH has not
granted the permission sought because of 'insufficient information'.
There is no mention of Dunne being involved.
I support Helen Kelly and I hope she continues the battle.
--
Crash McBash
On 13/02/2016 8:22 p.m., Crash wrote:
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 17:06:10 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Dunne is an old man - unable to make up his mind, confused and
bewildered, and consistent in his lack of consistency.
This is a decision that should have been easily made the other way,
but he believes he knows best, and while National are happy to leave
such decisions to him, he wields his capricious power . . ..
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/helen-kellys-medical-marijuana-bid-rejected
What is this to do with Peter Dunne? There is no mention of him. This
is about Helen Kelly and the Ministry of Health. The MOH has not
granted the permission sought because of 'insufficient information'.
There is no mention of Dunne being involved.
I support Helen Kelly and I hope she continues the battle.
--
Crash McBash
So when is the government going to take the first step to sort this
situation out ?
Its no problem for other jurisdictions yet it seems to be framed as a
series of insurmountable obstacles every time Dunne opens his mouth.
Shit or get off the pot Dunne !!!
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 20:22:24 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 17:06:10 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Dunne is an old man - unable to make up his mind, confused and >>>bewildered, and consistent in his lack of consistency.
This is a decision that should have been easily made the other way,
but he believes he knows best, and while National are happy to leave
such decisions to him, he wields his capricious power . . .. >>>https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/helen-kellys-medical-marijuana-bid-rejected
What is this to do with Peter Dunne? There is no mention of him. This
is about Helen Kelly and the Ministry of Health. The MOH has not
granted the permission sought because of 'insufficient information'.
There is no mention of Dunne being involved.
I support Helen Kelly and I hope she continues the battle.
It is in the article:
"In a letter to Ms Kelly, the Ministry says it's assessed the
application but "considered it to contain insufficient information to
enable a decision to be reached".
It then says that the Associate Minister of Health Peter Dunne was
briefed and a "Ministerial decision was made to defer the
application". "
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 22:26:20 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 20:22:24 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 17:06:10 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Dunne is an old man - unable to make up his mind, confused and
bewildered, and consistent in his lack of consistency.
This is a decision that should have been easily made the other way,
but he believes he knows best, and while National are happy to leave
such decisions to him, he wields his capricious power . . ..
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/helen-kellys-medical-marijuana-bid-rejected
What is this to do with Peter Dunne? There is no mention of him. This
is about Helen Kelly and the Ministry of Health. The MOH has not
granted the permission sought because of 'insufficient information'.
There is no mention of Dunne being involved.
I support Helen Kelly and I hope she continues the battle.
It is in the article:
"In a letter to Ms Kelly, the Ministry says it's assessed the
application but "considered it to contain insufficient information to
enable a decision to be reached".
It then says that the Associate Minister of Health Peter Dunne was
briefed and a "Ministerial decision was made to defer the
application". "
Rich you are correct in respect of Dunne's involvement - I don't know
how I missed this. I would expect that the MOH should have specified
exactly what deficiency there was in the data supporting the
application. Its possible that Dunne deferred the application pending
more information being provided by Kelly and/or her doctor to the MOH.
I hope this is still a work in progress.
Lastly I would expect the Minister of Health (Jonathan Coleman) - not
his associate - would take any directive action.
--
Crash McBash
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 22:26:20 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 20:22:24 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 17:06:10 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
Dunne is an old man - unable to make up his mind, confused and >>>>bewildered, and consistent in his lack of consistency.
This is a decision that should have been easily made the other way,
but he believes he knows best, and while National are happy to leave >>>>such decisions to him, he wields his capricious power . . .. >>>>https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/helen-kellys-medical-marijuana-bid-rejected
What is this to do with Peter Dunne? There is no mention of him. This
is about Helen Kelly and the Ministry of Health. The MOH has not
granted the permission sought because of 'insufficient information'. >>>There is no mention of Dunne being involved.
I support Helen Kelly and I hope she continues the battle.
It is in the article:
"In a letter to Ms Kelly, the Ministry says it's assessed the
application but "considered it to contain insufficient information to >>enable a decision to be reached".
It then says that the Associate Minister of Health Peter Dunne was
briefed and a "Ministerial decision was made to defer the
application". "
Rich you are correct in respect of Dunne's involvement - I don't know
how I missed this. I would expect that the MOH should have specified
exactly what deficiency there was in the data supporting the
application. Its possible that Dunne deferred the application pending
more information being provided by Kelly and/or her doctor to the MOH.
I hope this is still a work in progress.
Lastly I would expect the Minister of Health (Jonathan Coleman) - not
his associate - would take any directive action.
On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 00:33:04 +1300, victor <user1@example.net> wrote:
On 13/02/2016 8:22 p.m., Crash wrote:
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 17:06:10 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Dunne is an old man - unable to make up his mind, confused and
bewildered, and consistent in his lack of consistency.
This is a decision that should have been easily made the other way,
but he believes he knows best, and while National are happy to leave
such decisions to him, he wields his capricious power . . ..
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/helen-kellys-medical-marijuana-bid-rejected
What is this to do with Peter Dunne? There is no mention of him. This
is about Helen Kelly and the Ministry of Health. The MOH has not
granted the permission sought because of 'insufficient information'.
There is no mention of Dunne being involved.
I support Helen Kelly and I hope she continues the battle.
--
Crash McBash
So when is the government going to take the first step to sort this >>situation out ?
Its no problem for other jurisdictions yet it seems to be framed as a >>series of insurmountable obstacles every time Dunne opens his mouth.
Shit or get off the pot Dunne !!!
I have now seen another report on this case, with additional
information. It is both better and worse tan initially portrayed. It
seems that Dunne and his Ministry have decided on some creiteria for >information that should be provided that is additional to legal
requirements - fair enough for some, but others appear likely to just
make it harder for anyone to get a decision - whether favourable or
not! Beaurocracy is said to e the last refuge of a scoundrel . . .
Have a read - this is not a simple issue even where it should be! >http://publicaddress.net/hardnews/helen-kellys-letter/
On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 19:07:42 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 00:33:04 +1300, victor <user1@example.net> wrote:
On 13/02/2016 8:22 p.m., Crash wrote:
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 17:06:10 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Dunne is an old man - unable to make up his mind, confused and
bewildered, and consistent in his lack of consistency.
This is a decision that should have been easily made the other way,
but he believes he knows best, and while National are happy to leave >>>>> such decisions to him, he wields his capricious power . . ..
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/helen-kellys-medical-marijuana-bid-rejected
What is this to do with Peter Dunne? There is no mention of him. This >>>> is about Helen Kelly and the Ministry of Health. The MOH has not
granted the permission sought because of 'insufficient information'.
There is no mention of Dunne being involved.
I support Helen Kelly and I hope she continues the battle.
--
Crash McBash
So when is the government going to take the first step to sort this >>>situation out ?
Its no problem for other jurisdictions yet it seems to be framed as a >>>series of insurmountable obstacles every time Dunne opens his mouth.
Shit or get off the pot Dunne !!!
I have now seen another report on this case, with additional
information. It is both better and worse tan initially portrayed. It
seems that Dunne and his Ministry have decided on some creiteria for >>information that should be provided that is additional to legal >>requirements - fair enough for some, but others appear likely to just
make it harder for anyone to get a decision - whether favourable or
not! Beaurocracy is said to e the last refuge of a scoundrel . . .
Have a read - this is not a simple issue even where it should be! >>http://publicaddress.net/hardnews/helen-kellys-letter/
I agree. Why on earth is Dunne involved? Coleman is the Minister of
Health and is therefore in cabinet and answerable accordingly. Dunne
is an associate Minister of Health and is outside cabinet.
One possible explanation is that if the application was made and
deferred on January 29 Coleman was still on leave and Dunne was not.
If so when will Coleman be back on deck?
--
Crash McBash
On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 00:33:04 +1300, victor <user1@example.net> wrote:
On 13/02/2016 8:22 p.m., Crash wrote:
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 17:06:10 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Dunne is an old man - unable to make up his mind, confused and
bewildered, and consistent in his lack of consistency.
This is a decision that should have been easily made the other way,
but he believes he knows best, and while National are happy to leave
such decisions to him, he wields his capricious power . . ..
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/helen-kellys-medical-marijuana-bid-rejected
What is this to do with Peter Dunne? There is no mention of him. This
is about Helen Kelly and the Ministry of Health. The MOH has not
granted the permission sought because of 'insufficient information'.
There is no mention of Dunne being involved.
I support Helen Kelly and I hope she continues the battle.
--
Crash McBash
So when is the government going to take the first step to sort this >>situation out ?
Its no problem for other jurisdictions yet it seems to be framed as a >>series of insurmountable obstacles every time Dunne opens his mouth.
Shit or get off the pot Dunne !!!
I have now seen another report on this case, with additional
information. It is both better and worse tan initially portrayed. It
seems that Dunne and his Ministry have decided on some creiteria for information that should be provided that is additional to legal
requirements - fair enough for some, but others appear likely to just
make it harder for anyone to get a decision - whether favourable or
not! Beaurocracy is said to e the last refuge of a scoundrel . . .
Have a read - this is not a simple issue even where it should be! http://publicaddress.net/hardnews/helen-kellys-letter/
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