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  • Liebors 'crisis'

    From george152@3:770/3 to All on Sunday, July 17, 2016 08:53:11
    If the angry little man keeps the diatribe up he'll start to believe it..
    After all the backroom boy has assured him that negativity is the way to
    power

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to gblack@hnpl.net on Sunday, July 17, 2016 12:47:28
    On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 08:53:11 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    If the angry little man keeps the diatribe up he'll start to believe it.. >After all the backroom boy has assured him that negativity is the way to >power
    Andrew Little's too busy getting the Labour/Green housing programme
    planned and at least a little of it accepted by National http://www.labour.org.nz/housing

    To get a programme from being called "barking mad" by Key to adopted
    as government policy (albeit in their "ambush-us" weaselly loophole
    filled way) is quite an achievement. But then National have other
    problems: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/82146247/housing-solutions-out-of-reach
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11675391 http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/82092018/china-threatens-reprisals-on-nz-dairy-wool-and-kiwifruit-if-government-doesnt-back-off-cheap-steel-inquiry
    http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/health/bowel-screening-programme-slammed-as-a-political-stunt/
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/82113498/could-a-massive-public-building-programme-fix-the-housing-crisis
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11675033

    Keys personal support in polls continues to decline - how will
    Labour/Green compare with National in the next poll?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From victor@3:770/3 to Allistar on Sunday, July 17, 2016 14:15:06
    On 17/07/2016 1:42 p.m., Allistar wrote:
    Rich80105 wrote:

    On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 08:53:11 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    If the angry little man keeps the diatribe up he'll start to believe it.. >>> After all the backroom boy has assured him that negativity is the way to >>> power
    Andrew Little's too busy getting the Labour/Green housing programme
    planned and at least a little of it accepted by National
    http://www.labour.org.nz/housing

    It would be more honest for Labour to state what this would cost people in terms of increased taxation. As we know whenever Labour gain power from National they always increase income taxes.

    Keys personal support in polls continues to decline - how will
    Labour/Green compare with National in the next poll?

    Very poorly, given Labour have no credible leader and no coherent policies.


    Still better than Nationals tag team of ineffectual bullshitters

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From victor@3:770/3 to All on Sunday, July 17, 2016 14:13:27
    On 17/07/2016 8:53 a.m., george152 wrote:
    If the angry little man keeps the diatribe up he'll start to believe it.. After all the backroom boy has assured him that negativity is the way to power

    Nothing like as angry as Farrar's cesspit of crybabies

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From george152@3:770/3 to Allistar on Sunday, July 17, 2016 13:52:55
    On 7/17/2016 1:42 PM, Allistar wrote:
    Rich80105 wrote:

    On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 08:53:11 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    If the angry little man keeps the diatribe up he'll start to believe it.. >>> After all the backroom boy has assured him that negativity is the way to >>> power
    Andrew Little's too busy getting the Labour/Green housing programme
    planned and at least a little of it accepted by National
    http://www.labour.org.nz/housing

    It would be more honest for Labour to state what this would cost people in terms of increased taxation. As we know whenever Labour gain power from National they always increase income taxes.

    Keys personal support in polls continues to decline - how will
    Labour/Green compare with National in the next poll?

    Very poorly, given Labour have no credible leader and no coherent policies.

    Oh but Liebor has an 'internal' poll which pretty much describes its
    result..
    And Keys poll ratings haven't shifted while the angry little man's 7%
    really can't go any lower

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From Allistar@3:770/3 to All on Sunday, July 17, 2016 13:42:58
    Rich80105 wrote:

    On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 08:53:11 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    If the angry little man keeps the diatribe up he'll start to believe it.. >>After all the backroom boy has assured him that negativity is the way to >>power
    Andrew Little's too busy getting the Labour/Green housing programme
    planned and at least a little of it accepted by National http://www.labour.org.nz/housing

    It would be more honest for Labour to state what this would cost people in terms of increased taxation. As we know whenever Labour gain power from National they always increase income taxes.

    Keys personal support in polls continues to decline - how will
    Labour/Green compare with National in the next poll?

    Very poorly, given Labour have no credible leader and no coherent policies.
    --
    "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."
    creates the incentive to minimize your abilities and maximize your needs.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From Crash@3:770/3 to All on Sunday, July 17, 2016 20:18:46
    On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:47:28 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 08:53:11 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    If the angry little man keeps the diatribe up he'll start to believe it.. >>After all the backroom boy has assured him that negativity is the way to >>power
    Andrew Little's too busy getting the Labour/Green housing programme
    planned and at least a little of it accepted by National >http://www.labour.org.nz/housing

    To get a programme from being called "barking mad" by Key to adopted
    as government policy (albeit in their "ambush-us" weaselly loophole
    filled way) is quite an achievement. But then National have other
    problems: >http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/82146247/housing-solutions-out-of-reach
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11675391 >http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/82092018/china-threatens-reprisals-on-nz-dairy-wool-and-kiwifruit-if-government-doesnt-back-off-cheap-steel-inquiry
    http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/health/bowel-screening-programme-slammed-as-a-political-stunt/
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/82113498/could-a-massive-public-building-programme-fix-the-housing-crisis
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11675033

    Keys personal support in polls continues to decline - how will
    Labour/Green compare with National in the next poll?

    Got a cite for those Rich? How about the gap between Andrew Little
    and John Key? How about the gap between National and Labour? How
    about support for a government consisting of equal leadership between
    Andrew Little, Metiria Turei and James Shaw? (Hint: the three of them
    don't add up to much).

    Let me remind you that in 2008 National achieved 45% of the party
    vote:

    http://electionresults.co.nz/electionresults_2008/

    In 2011 this increased to 47%:

    http://electionresults.co.nz/electionresults_2011/

    In 2014 this held at 47%:

    http://electionresults.co.nz/electionresults_2014/

    Now look at Labours numbers over the same period (34, 27, 25%) and
    tell me who has a problem.

    Andrew Little may well be busy working on Labour's housing policy but
    as yet there is no evidence that all this work - and that of Cunliffe,
    Shearer and Goff before him - is being translated into the significant turnaround in voter support needed to arrest Labour's decline since
    2002.



    --
    Crash McBash

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From george152@3:770/3 to Crash on Monday, July 18, 2016 08:43:14
    On 7/17/2016 8:18 PM, Crash wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:47:28 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 08:53:11 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    If the angry little man keeps the diatribe up he'll start to believe it.. >>> After all the backroom boy has assured him that negativity is the way to >>> power
    Andrew Little's too busy getting the Labour/Green housing programme
    planned and at least a little of it accepted by National
    http://www.labour.org.nz/housing

    To get a programme from being called "barking mad" by Key to adopted
    as government policy (albeit in their "ambush-us" weaselly loophole
    filled way) is quite an achievement. But then National have other
    problems:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/82146247/housing-solutions-out-of-reach
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11675391 >> http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/82092018/china-threatens-reprisals-on-nz-dairy-wool-and-kiwifruit-if-government-doesnt-back-off-cheap-steel-inquiry
    http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/health/bowel-screening-programme-slammed-as-a-political-stunt/
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/82113498/could-a-massive-public-building-programme-fix-the-housing-crisis
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11675033 >>
    Keys personal support in polls continues to decline - how will
    Labour/Green compare with National in the next poll?

    Got a cite for those Rich? How about the gap between Andrew Little
    and John Key? How about the gap between National and Labour? How
    about support for a government consisting of equal leadership between
    Andrew Little, Metiria Turei and James Shaw? (Hint: the three of them
    don't add up to much).

    Let me remind you that in 2008 National achieved 45% of the party
    vote:

    http://electionresults.co.nz/electionresults_2008/

    In 2011 this increased to 47%:

    http://electionresults.co.nz/electionresults_2011/

    In 2014 this held at 47%:

    http://electionresults.co.nz/electionresults_2014/

    Now look at Labours numbers over the same period (34, 27, 25%) and
    tell me who has a problem.

    Andrew Little may well be busy working on Labour's housing policy but
    as yet there is no evidence that all this work - and that of Cunliffe, Shearer and Goff before him - is being translated into the significant turnaround in voter support needed to arrest Labour's decline since
    2002.


    Liebor just claimed an -internal- poll shows them (and the greens) with
    numbers equal to the government...
    So they asked themselves who they'd vote for?
    And nearly lost even that rigged poll

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From Allistar@3:770/3 to victor on Monday, July 18, 2016 09:38:09
    victor wrote:

    On 17/07/2016 1:42 p.m., Allistar wrote:
    Rich80105 wrote:

    On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 08:53:11 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    If the angry little man keeps the diatribe up he'll start to believe
    it.. After all the backroom boy has assured him that negativity is the >>>> way to power
    Andrew Little's too busy getting the Labour/Green housing programme
    planned and at least a little of it accepted by National
    http://www.labour.org.nz/housing

    It would be more honest for Labour to state what this would cost people
    in terms of increased taxation. As we know whenever Labour gain power
    from National they always increase income taxes.

    Keys personal support in polls continues to decline - how will
    Labour/Green compare with National in the next poll?

    Very poorly, given Labour have no credible leader and no coherent
    policies.


    Still better than Nationals tag team of ineffectual bullshitters

    Given they are still very popular it says a lot about how bad people think Labour are.
    --
    "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."
    creates the incentive to minimize your abilities and maximize your needs.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
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