In another thread, Dickbot claimed that government communications staff numbers have increased. Tony rightly called him out, claimed Dickbot made it upand asked him to cite the source of his assertion.
Normally it ends there, Dickbot crawls back under his rock and refuses to evenattempt to justify his assertion.
This time Dickbot, or whoever is operating the Dickbot account today, admits that he has no cite or reference to support his claim, but denies he made it all up, denies he's lying, and even impugns Tony for calling him a liar.example:
Well looky here: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/68914078/public-servant-numbers-hit-new-high-or-drop-depending-on-measure
"The number of communications staff - a figure separately measured by the SSC - dropped to 277.8 at the end of 2014, down from 285.3 a year earlier."
So there you have it. Dickbot made it up and is a liar, and smears others.
As we all knew all along.
Dickbot, this is how you do a cite: you provide a link, reference or quote to an authoritative source that supports an assertion you have made. Tip: You don't cite by quoting some out of touch lefty activist blogger or lefry politician. Here's an
https://www.ssc.govt.nz/sites/all/files/capping-update-june-2015.pdf(see Appendix 3 for a breakdown by agency). Communications staff numbers >fluctuate due to the small numbers employed in each agency, but remain well below 321.3, the number when the cap was originally set. "
"There were 291.2 FTE communications and public relations advisors in the Public Service as at 30 June 2015, compared with 277.8 FTEs at 31 December 2014
Suck it up, liar boy.
On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 13:44:05 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>numbers have increased. Tony rightly called him out, claimed Dickbot made it up
wrote:
In another thread, Dickbot claimed that government communications staff
even attempt to justify his assertion.Normally it ends there, Dickbot crawls back under his rock and refuses to
that he has no cite or reference to support his claim, but denies he made it all up, denies he's lying, and even impugns Tony for calling him a liar.This time Dickbot, or whoever is operating the Dickbot account today, admits
SSC - dropped to 277.8 at the end of 2014, down from 285.3 a year earlier."Well looky here: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/68914078/public-servant-numbers-hit-new-high-or-drop-depending-on-measure
"The number of communications staff - a figure separately measured by the
to an authoritative source that supports an assertion you have made. Tip: You don't cite by quoting some out of touch lefty activist blogger or lefry politician. Here's anSo there you have it. Dickbot made it up and is a liar, and smears others.
As we all knew all along.
Dickbot, this is how you do a cite: you provide a link, reference or quote
Public Service as at 30 June 2015, compared with 277.8 FTEs at 31 December 2014https://www.ssc.govt.nz/sites/all/files/capping-update-june-2015.pdf
"There were 291.2 FTE communications and public relations advisors in the
below 321.3, the number when the cap was originally set. "fluctuate due to the small numbers employed in each agency, but remain well
Suck it up, liar boy.
Selective period for comparison are all very well for spin purposes,
but my claim was that Communications staff have increased since
National came into Government. What was the number at the time of the election in 2008?
On Thursday, 14 July 2016 10:05:28 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:and asked him to cite the source of his assertion.
On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 13:44:05 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
In another thread, Dickbot claimed that government communications staff numbers have increased. Tony rightly called him out, claimed Dickbot made it up
example:
Normally it ends there, Dickbot crawls back under his rock and refuses to even attempt to justify his assertion.
This time Dickbot, or whoever is operating the Dickbot account today, admits that he has no cite or reference to support his claim, but denies he made it all up, denies he's lying, and even impugns Tony for calling him a liar.
Well looky here: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/68914078/public-servant-numbers-hit-new-high-or-drop-depending-on-measure
"The number of communications staff - a figure separately measured by the SSC - dropped to 277.8 at the end of 2014, down from 285.3 a year earlier."
So there you have it. Dickbot made it up and is a liar, and smears others. >> >
As we all knew all along.
Dickbot, this is how you do a cite: you provide a link, reference or quote to an authoritative source that supports an assertion you have made. Tip: You don't cite by quoting some out of touch lefty activist blogger or lefry politician. Here's an
(see Appendix 3 for a breakdown by agency). Communications staff numbers
https://www.ssc.govt.nz/sites/all/files/capping-update-june-2015.pdf
"There were 291.2 FTE communications and public relations advisors in the Public Service as at 30 June 2015, compared with 277.8 FTEs at 31 December 2014
below 321.3, the number when the cap was originally set. "fluctuate due to the small numbers employed in each agency, but remain well
Selective period for comparison are all very well for spin purposes,
Suck it up, liar boy.
but my claim was that Communications staff have increased since
National came into Government. What was the number at the time of the
election in 2008?
Jesus wept. You put the information right under Dickbot's nose and he still can't read it.
It is in the first page of the cite I gave you. 321 as of 31 Dec 2008. Strangely enough these figures don't seem to have been kept under Labour. I wonder why?
Now, are you so hilariously desperate that you will claim that the Nats magic'd up a whole cohort of new PR staff between Nov 8 and Dec 31?
https://www.ssc.govt.nz/sites/all/files/capping-update-june-2015.pdf
"There were 291.2 FTE communications and public relations advisors in the Public Service as at 30 June 2015, compared with 277.8 FTEs at 31 December 2014 (see Appendix 3 for a breakdown by agency). Communications staff numbers >fluctuate due to the small numbers employed in each agency, but remain well below 321.3, the number when the cap was originally set. "
Suck it up, liar boy.
On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:19:42 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>numbers have increased. Tony rightly called him out, claimed Dickbot made it up
wrote:
On Thursday, 14 July 2016 10:05:28 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 13:44:05 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
In another thread, Dickbot claimed that government communications staff
even attempt to justify his assertion.
Normally it ends there, Dickbot crawls back under his rock and refuses to
admits that he has no cite or reference to support his claim, but denies he made it all up, denies he's lying, and even impugns Tony for calling him a liar.
This time Dickbot, or whoever is operating the Dickbot account today,
SSC - dropped to 277.8 at the end of 2014, down from 285.3 a year earlier."
Well looky here: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/68914078/public-servant-numbers-hit-new-high-or-drop-depending-on-measure
"The number of communications staff - a figure separately measured by the
others.
So there you have it. Dickbot made it up and is a liar, and smears
quote to an authoritative source that supports an assertion you have made. Tip:
As we all knew all along.
Dickbot, this is how you do a cite: you provide a link, reference or
Public Service as at 30 June 2015, compared with 277.8 FTEs at 31 December 2014
https://www.ssc.govt.nz/sites/all/files/capping-update-june-2015.pdf
"There were 291.2 FTE communications and public relations advisors in the
well below 321.3, the number when the cap was originally set. "fluctuate due to the small numbers employed in each agency, but remain
can't read it.Selective period for comparison are all very well for spin purposes,
Suck it up, liar boy.
but my claim was that Communications staff have increased since
National came into Government. What was the number at the time of the
election in 2008?
Jesus wept. You put the information right under Dickbot's nose and he still
Strangely enough these figures don't seem to have been kept under Labour. I wonder why?It is in the first page of the cite I gave you. 321 as of 31 Dec 2008.
magic'd up a whole cohort of new PR staff between Nov 8 and Dec 31?Now, are you so hilariously desperate that you will claim that the Nats
Those numbers exclude some large departments - Work and Income and Corrections for example.
Do you really believe that the Prime Minister has only 2
communications and PR staff in his own office and DPMC? All are paid
by taxpayers, JohnO.
Spin, spin, spin . . . . you have been caught by National spin, JohnO
. . .
On Thursday, 14 July 2016 10:32:12 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:and asked him to cite the source of his assertion.
On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:19:42 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thursday, 14 July 2016 10:05:28 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 13:44:05 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
In another thread, Dickbot claimed that government communications staff numbers have increased. Tony rightly called him out, claimed Dickbot made it up
You don't cite by quoting some out of touch lefty activist blogger or lefry politician. Here's an
Normally it ends there, Dickbot crawls back under his rock and refuses to even attempt to justify his assertion.
This time Dickbot, or whoever is operating the Dickbot account today, admits that he has no cite or reference to support his claim, but denies he made it all up, denies he's lying, and even impugns Tony for calling him a liar.
Well looky here: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/68914078/public-servant-numbers-hit-new-high-or-drop-depending-on-measure
"The number of communications staff - a figure separately measured by the SSC - dropped to 277.8 at the end of 2014, down from 285.3 a year earlier." >> >> >
So there you have it. Dickbot made it up and is a liar, and smears others.
As we all knew all along.
Dickbot, this is how you do a cite: you provide a link, reference or quote to an authoritative source that supports an assertion you have made. Tip:
can't read it.Selective period for comparison are all very well for spin purposes,
https://www.ssc.govt.nz/sites/all/files/capping-update-june-2015.pdf
"There were 291.2 FTE communications and public relations advisors in the Public Service as at 30 June 2015, compared with 277.8 FTEs at 31 December 2014 (see Appendix 3 for a breakdown by agency). Communications staff numbers >> >> >fluctuate due to the small numbers employed in each agency, but remain well below 321.3, the number when the cap was originally set. "
Suck it up, liar boy.
but my claim was that Communications staff have increased since
National came into Government. What was the number at the time of the
election in 2008?
Jesus wept. You put the information right under Dickbot's nose and he still
Social Development.
It is in the first page of the cite I gave you. 321 as of 31 Dec 2008. Strangely enough these figures don't seem to have been kept under Labour. I wonder why?
Now, are you so hilariously desperate that you will claim that the Nats magic'd up a whole cohort of new PR staff between Nov 8 and Dec 31?
Those numbers exclude some large departments - Work and Income and
Corrections for example.
And yet another lie from Dickbot. Seriously, lies fall from Dickbot's mouth like leaves from an oak tree in autumn.
Appendix 3 of the document I cited, which it appears you STILL HAVE NOT READ, quite clearly lists number of PR staff by department, including Corrections and
Dickbot please read the SSC document and stop fucking lying!
Do you really believe that the Prime Minister has only 2
communications and PR staff in his own office and DPMC? All are paid
by taxpayers, JohnO.
Why would I not? Show me otherwise. Oh, you can;t because you just make shit up and get caught out, eh Dickbot?
Spin, spin, spin . . . . you have been caught by National spin, JohnO
. . .
It is not "National spin". It is *hard data* from the expressly non political State Services Commission.
Sick of embarrassing yourself yet?
On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 17:03:44 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>You squirm and twist and turn and you are incapable of honest debate.
wrote:
On Thursday, 14 July 2016 10:32:12 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:19:42 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thursday, 14 July 2016 10:05:28 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 13:44:05 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>> >> wrote:
In another thread, Dickbot claimed that government communications staff >>> >> >numbers have increased. Tony rightly called him out, claimed Dickbot made it upSelective period for comparison are all very well for spin purposes,
and asked him to cite the source of his assertion.
Normally it ends there, Dickbot crawls back under his rock and refuses >>> >> >to even attempt to justify his assertion.
This time Dickbot, or whoever is operating the Dickbot account today, >>> >> >admits that he has no cite or reference to support his claim, but denies he
made it all up, denies he's lying, and even impugns Tony for calling him a liar.
Well looky here:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/68914078/public-servant-numbers-hit-new-high-or-drop-depending-on-measure
"The number of communications staff - a figure separately measured by >>> >> >the SSC - dropped to 277.8 at the end of 2014, down from 285.3 a year earlier."
So there you have it. Dickbot made it up and is a liar, and smears
others.
As we all knew all along.
Dickbot, this is how you do a cite: you provide a link, reference or >>> >> >quote to an authoritative source that supports an assertion you have made. Tip:
You don't cite by quoting some out of touch lefty activist blogger or lefry
politician. Here's an example:
https://www.ssc.govt.nz/sites/all/files/capping-update-june-2015.pdf >>> >> >
"There were 291.2 FTE communications and public relations advisors in >>> >> >the Public Service as at 30 June 2015, compared with 277.8 FTEs at 31 December
2014 (see Appendix 3 for a breakdown by agency). Communications staff numbers
fluctuate due to the small numbers employed in each agency, but remain >>> >> >well below 321.3, the number when the cap was originally set. "
Suck it up, liar boy.
but my claim was that Communications staff have increased since
National came into Government. What was the number at the time of the >>> >> election in 2008?
Jesus wept. You put the information right under Dickbot's nose and he
still can't read it.
It is in the first page of the cite I gave you. 321 as of 31 Dec 2008.
Strangely enough these figures don't seem to have been kept under Labour. I
wonder why?
Now, are you so hilariously desperate that you will claim that the Nats >>> >magic'd up a whole cohort of new PR staff between Nov 8 and Dec 31?
Those numbers exclude some large departments - Work and Income and
Corrections for example.
And yet another lie from Dickbot. Seriously, lies fall from Dickbot's mouth >>like leaves from an oak tree in autumn.
Appendix 3 of the document I cited, which it appears you STILL HAVE NOT READ, >>quite clearly lists number of PR staff by department, including Corrections and
Social Development.
Dickbot please read the SSC document and stop fucking lying!
I note you do not include WINZ - which is not the same as MSD. Is it
prosons which are excluded?
Do you really believe that the Prime Minister has only 2
communications and PR staff in his own office and DPMC? All are paid
by taxpayers, JohnO.
Why would I not? Show me otherwise. Oh, you can;t because you just make shit >>up and get caught out, eh Dickbot?
Spin, spin, spin . . . . you have been caught by National spin, JohnO
. . .
It is not "National spin". It is *hard data* from the expressly non political >>State Services Commission.
Sick of embarrassing yourself yet?
On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 17:03:44 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>staff numbers have increased. Tony rightly called him out, claimed Dickbot made
wrote:
On Thursday, 14 July 2016 10:32:12 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:19:42 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thursday, 14 July 2016 10:05:28 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 13:44:05 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >> >> wrote:
In another thread, Dickbot claimed that government communications
to even attempt to justify his assertion.
Normally it ends there, Dickbot crawls back under his rock and refuses
admits that he has no cite or reference to support his claim, but denies he made it all up, denies he's lying, and even impugns Tony for calling him a liar.
This time Dickbot, or whoever is operating the Dickbot account today,
the SSC - dropped to 277.8 at the end of 2014, down from 285.3 a year earlier."
Well looky here: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/68914078/public-servant-numbers-hit-new-high-or-drop-depending-on-measure
"The number of communications staff - a figure separately measured by
others.
So there you have it. Dickbot made it up and is a liar, and smears
quote to an authoritative source that supports an assertion you have made. Tip:
As we all knew all along.
Dickbot, this is how you do a cite: you provide a link, reference or
the Public Service as at 30 June 2015, compared with 277.8 FTEs at 31 December 2014 (see Appendix 3 for a breakdown by agency). Communications staff numbers
https://www.ssc.govt.nz/sites/all/files/capping-update-june-2015.pdf >> >> >
"There were 291.2 FTE communications and public relations advisors in
well below 321.3, the number when the cap was originally set. "fluctuate due to the small numbers employed in each agency, but remain
still can't read it.Selective period for comparison are all very well for spin purposes,
Suck it up, liar boy.
but my claim was that Communications staff have increased since
National came into Government. What was the number at the time of the >> >> election in 2008?
Jesus wept. You put the information right under Dickbot's nose and he
Strangely enough these figures don't seem to have been kept under Labour. I wonder why?
It is in the first page of the cite I gave you. 321 as of 31 Dec 2008.
magic'd up a whole cohort of new PR staff between Nov 8 and Dec 31?
Now, are you so hilariously desperate that you will claim that the Nats
like leaves from an oak tree in autumn.
Those numbers exclude some large departments - Work and Income and
Corrections for example.
And yet another lie from Dickbot. Seriously, lies fall from Dickbot's mouth
READ, quite clearly lists number of PR staff by department, including Corrections and Social Development.Appendix 3 of the document I cited, which it appears you STILL HAVE NOT
Dickbot please read the SSC document and stop fucking lying!
I note you do not include WINZ - which is not the same as MSD.
Is it prosons which are excluded?
up and get caught out, eh Dickbot?
Do you really believe that the Prime Minister has only 2
communications and PR staff in his own office and DPMC? All are paid
by taxpayers, JohnO.
Why would I not? Show me otherwise. Oh, you can;t because you just make shit
political State Services Commission.Spin, spin, spin . . . . you have been caught by National spin, JohnO
. . .
It is not "National spin". It is *hard data* from the expressly non
Sick of embarrassing yourself yet?
On Thursday, 14 July 2016 10:32:12 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:and asked him to cite the source of his assertion.
On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:19:42 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thursday, 14 July 2016 10:05:28 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 13:44:05 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
In another thread, Dickbot claimed that government communications staff numbers have increased. Tony rightly called him out, claimed Dickbot made it up
even attempt to justify his assertion.
Normally it ends there, Dickbot crawls back under his rock and refuses to
SSC - dropped to 277.8 at the end of 2014, down from 285.3 a year earlier." >>>>>
This time Dickbot, or whoever is operating the Dickbot account today, admits that he has no cite or reference to support his claim, but denies he made it all up, denies he's lying, and even impugns Tony for calling him a liar.
Well looky here: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/68914078/public-servant-numbers-hit-new-high-or-drop-depending-on-measure
"The number of communications staff - a figure separately measured by the
You don't cite by quoting some out of touch lefty activist blogger or lefry politician. Here's anSo there you have it. Dickbot made it up and is a liar, and smears others.
As we all knew all along.
Dickbot, this is how you do a cite: you provide a link, reference or quote to an authoritative source that supports an assertion you have made. Tip:
Public Service as at 30 June 2015, compared with 277.8 FTEs at 31 December 2014
https://www.ssc.govt.nz/sites/all/files/capping-update-june-2015.pdf >>>>>
"There were 291.2 FTE communications and public relations advisors in the
can't read it.fluctuate due to the small numbers employed in each agency, but remain well below 321.3, the number when the cap was originally set. "Selective period for comparison are all very well for spin purposes,
Suck it up, liar boy.
but my claim was that Communications staff have increased since
National came into Government. What was the number at the time of the
election in 2008?
Jesus wept. You put the information right under Dickbot's nose and he still
like leaves from an oak tree in autumn.
It is in the first page of the cite I gave you. 321 as of 31 Dec 2008. Strangely enough these figures don't seem to have been kept under Labour. I wonder why?
Now, are you so hilariously desperate that you will claim that the Nats magic'd up a whole cohort of new PR staff between Nov 8 and Dec 31?
Those numbers exclude some large departments - Work and Income and
Corrections for example.
And yet another lie from Dickbot. Seriously, lies fall from Dickbot's mouth
Appendix 3 of the document I cited, which it appears you STILL HAVE NOT READ,quite clearly lists number of PR staff by department, including Corrections and
Dickbot please read the SSC document and stop fucking lying!up and get caught out, eh Dickbot?
Do you really believe that the Prime Minister has only 2
communications and PR staff in his own office and DPMC? All are paid
by taxpayers, JohnO.
Why would I not? Show me otherwise. Oh, you can;t because you just make shit
State Services Commission.Spin, spin, spin . . . . you have been caught by National spin, JohnO
. . .
It is not "National spin". It is *hard data* from the expressly non political
Sick of embarrassing yourself yet?
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