• 10,000 houses per annum?

    From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, July 07, 2016 13:12:55
    Seems little Andys still plucking policies without giving them a lot of thought. Obviously the union goons had no need of a tradesman for a long
    time:)

    Hell to build 10,000 houses a year your going to need somewhere in the
    vicinty of 50-60,000 tradies. That's without taking into account the delays your liable to get waiting for resource consent and inspectors having the
    time to sign off on the various stages. Qviously this 'policy' is just
    another example of just how far out touch Labour/Green are with reality.
    Hell the marxist muppets are even more out touch than National :)

    Pooh

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, July 07, 2016 22:17:16
    On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 13:12:55 +1200, "Pooh" <rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Seems little Andys still plucking policies without giving them a lot of >thought. Obviously the union goons had no need of a tradesman for a long >time:)

    Hell to build 10,000 houses a year your going to need somewhere in the >vicinty of 50-60,000 tradies. That's without taking into account the delays >your liable to get waiting for resource consent and inspectors having the >time to sign off on the various stages. Qviously this 'policy' is just >another example of just how far out touch Labour/Green are with reality.
    Hell the marxist muppets are even more out touch than National :)

    Pooh

    It certainly is bad how National has been selling off state houses
    rather than building more, and running down apprenticeships. I suspect
    Labour will get economies of scale and mass production of some
    components to reduce costs and make better progress. It sure beats
    leavig it all to so-called market forces which in reality are more
    about private sector profit maximisation. . .

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, July 07, 2016 14:24:36
    On Thursday, 7 July 2016 22:16:44 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 13:12:55 +1200, "Pooh" <rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Seems little Andys still plucking policies without giving them a lot of >thought. Obviously the union goons had no need of a tradesman for a long >time:)

    Hell to build 10,000 houses a year your going to need somewhere in the >vicinty of 50-60,000 tradies. That's without taking into account the delays >your liable to get waiting for resource consent and inspectors having the >time to sign off on the various stages. Qviously this 'policy' is just >another example of just how far out touch Labour/Green are with reality. >Hell the marxist muppets are even more out touch than National :)

    Pooh

    It certainly is bad how National has been selling off state houses
    rather than building more, and running down apprenticeships. I suspect
    Labour will get economies of scale and mass production of some
    components to reduce costs and make better progress. It sure beats
    leavig it all to so-called market forces which in reality are more
    about private sector profit maximisation. . .

    HNZ sell houses that are not needed or not fit for purpose, and transfer/sell houses to other community social housing providers.

    See page 23: http://www.hnzc.co.nz/assets/Publications/Corporate/Annual-report/Annual-Report-2015.pdf


    HNZ most certainly are building new houses. See p24.

    I am very pleased to see that they are disposing of homes in low demand areas and homes that are not fit for purpose.

    Can you even make one post here without telling a barefaced lie, Dickbot?

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  • From Newsman@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, July 07, 2016 21:55:11
    On Thu, 07 Jul 2016 22:17:16 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 13:12:55 +1200, "Pooh" <rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Seems little Andys still plucking policies without giving them a lot of >>thought. Obviously the union goons had no need of a tradesman for a long >>time:)

    Hell to build 10,000 houses a year your going to need somewhere in the >>vicinty of 50-60,000 tradies. That's without taking into account the delays >>your liable to get waiting for resource consent and inspectors having the >>time to sign off on the various stages. Qviously this 'policy' is just >>another example of just how far out touch Labour/Green are with reality. >>Hell the marxist muppets are even more out touch than National :)

    Pooh

    It certainly is bad how National has been selling off state houses
    rather than building more, and running down apprenticeships. I suspect
    Labour will get economies of scale and mass production of some
    components to reduce costs and make better progress. It sure beats
    leavig it all to so-called market forces which in reality are more
    about private sector profit maximisation.

    None of which alters the fact that comatose New Zealand - a South Seas Ripvanwinkle only now waking up to its hopelessly inadequate
    infrastructure and paucity of trade skills - has a Reserve Bank caught
    in its own Catch-22 telling the bunch in the Beehive to get
    immigration under control, and a government-in-denial telling the
    Reserve Bank to get the housing market under control.

    It's called "Dialogue of the Deaf," but in this case a more apt
    description is, "Dialogue of the Boneheaded," both of 'em operating
    under New Zealand's notorioius Pontius Pilate rubric, "She'll be
    roight, mate."

    Economics 101: For the wellbeing of any country, it's not such a bad
    idea for government and central bank to be at least capable of singing
    from the same songsheet.

    A bunch of self-satisfied, proudly ignorant, underachieving wallies,
    cowardly hostages to finance from abroad and zero-productivity
    "investment" at home by a surpassingly greedy and selfish electorate.

    And it's nobody's fault but yours.

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  • From Allistar@3:770/3 to All on Friday, July 08, 2016 10:50:27
    Rich80105 wrote:

    On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 13:12:55 +1200, "Pooh" <rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Seems little Andys still plucking policies without giving them a lot of >>thought. Obviously the union goons had no need of a tradesman for a long >>time:)

    Hell to build 10,000 houses a year your going to need somewhere in the >>vicinty of 50-60,000 tradies. That's without taking into account the
    delays your liable to get waiting for resource consent and inspectors >>having the time to sign off on the various stages. Qviously this 'policy' >>is just another example of just how far out touch Labour/Green are with >>reality. Hell the marxist muppets are even more out touch than National :)

    Pooh

    It certainly is bad how National has been selling off state houses
    rather than building more, and running down apprenticeships.

    Running down apprenticeships? The government doesn't control whether people
    can offer apprenticeships or not.

    I suspect
    Labour will get economies of scale and mass production of some
    components to reduce costs and make better progress.

    You suspect? They can't even manage their own party.

    It sure beats
    leavig it all to so-called market forces which in reality are more
    about private sector profit maximisation. . .
    --
    "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."
    creates the incentive to minimize your abilities and maximize your needs.

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to Newsman on Thursday, July 07, 2016 15:56:11
    On Friday, 8 July 2016 09:55:13 UTC+12, Newsman wrote:
    On Thu, 07 Jul 2016 22:17:16 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 13:12:55 +1200, "Pooh" <rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Seems little Andys still plucking policies without giving them a lot of >>thought. Obviously the union goons had no need of a tradesman for a long >>time:)

    Hell to build 10,000 houses a year your going to need somewhere in the >>vicinty of 50-60,000 tradies. That's without taking into account the delays >>your liable to get waiting for resource consent and inspectors having the >>time to sign off on the various stages. Qviously this 'policy' is just >>another example of just how far out touch Labour/Green are with reality. >>Hell the marxist muppets are even more out touch than National :)

    Pooh

    It certainly is bad how National has been selling off state houses
    rather than building more, and running down apprenticeships. I suspect >Labour will get economies of scale and mass production of some
    components to reduce costs and make better progress. It sure beats
    leavig it all to so-called market forces which in reality are more
    about private sector profit maximisation.

    None of which alters the fact that comatose New Zealand - a South Seas Ripvanwinkle only now waking up to its hopelessly inadequate
    infrastructure and paucity of trade skills - has a Reserve Bank caught
    in its own Catch-22 telling the bunch in the Beehive to get
    immigration under control, and a government-in-denial telling the
    Reserve Bank to get the housing market under control.

    It's called "Dialogue of the Deaf," but in this case a more apt
    description is, "Dialogue of the Boneheaded," both of 'em operating
    under New Zealand's notorioius Pontius Pilate rubric, "She'll be
    roight, mate."

    Economics 101: For the wellbeing of any country, it's not such a bad
    idea for government and central bank to be at least capable of singing
    from the same songsheet.

    A bunch of self-satisfied, proudly ignorant, underachieving wallies,
    cowardly hostages to finance from abroad and zero-productivity
    "investment" at home by a surpassingly greedy and selfish electorate.

    And it's nobody's fault but yours.

    Sounds terrible. When are you leaving?

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  • From Newsman@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, July 07, 2016 23:29:13
    On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 15:56:11 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Friday, 8 July 2016 09:55:13 UTC+12, Newsman wrote:
    On Thu, 07 Jul 2016 22:17:16 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 13:12:55 +1200, "Pooh" <rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Seems little Andys still plucking policies without giving them a lot of
    thought. Obviously the union goons had no need of a tradesman for a long >> >>time:)

    Hell to build 10,000 houses a year your going to need somewhere in the
    vicinty of 50-60,000 tradies. That's without taking into account the delays
    your liable to get waiting for resource consent and inspectors having the >> >>time to sign off on the various stages. Qviously this 'policy' is just
    another example of just how far out touch Labour/Green are with reality. >> >>Hell the marxist muppets are even more out touch than National :)

    Pooh

    It certainly is bad how National has been selling off state houses
    rather than building more, and running down apprenticeships. I suspect
    Labour will get economies of scale and mass production of some
    components to reduce costs and make better progress. It sure beats
    leavig it all to so-called market forces which in reality are more
    about private sector profit maximisation.

    None of which alters the fact that comatose New Zealand - a South Seas
    Ripvanwinkle only now waking up to its hopelessly inadequate
    infrastructure and paucity of trade skills - has a Reserve Bank caught
    in its own Catch-22 telling the bunch in the Beehive to get
    immigration under control, and a government-in-denial telling the
    Reserve Bank to get the housing market under control.

    It's called "Dialogue of the Deaf," but in this case a more apt
    description is, "Dialogue of the Boneheaded," both of 'em operating
    under New Zealand's notorioius Pontius Pilate rubric, "She'll be
    roight, mate."

    Economics 101: For the wellbeing of any country, it's not such a bad
    idea for government and central bank to be at least capable of singing
    from the same songsheet.

    A bunch of self-satisfied, proudly ignorant, underachieving wallies,
    cowardly hostages to finance from abroad and zero-productivity
    "investment" at home by a surpassingly greedy and selfish electorate.

    And it's nobody's fault but yours.

    Sounds terrible.

    Nope, it's a farce of the first water. Today's addition to the
    script:

    PM to RB Governor: "Fix my out-of-control crisis, and now!"

    RB Governor to PM: "Your job, not mine, ya under-educated spiv!"

    When are you leaving?

    When I choose, but no need yet, and for two principal reasons:

    1. Chaos is profit (and how!!)

    2. I can, at any time of my choosing and not yours.

    There now, you sweet, febrile infant; no need for you to panic after
    all, is there?

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to Allistar on Friday, July 08, 2016 12:47:03
    On 7/8/2016 10:50 AM, Allistar wrote:
    Rich80105 wrote:

    On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 13:12:55 +1200, "Pooh" <rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Seems little Andys still plucking policies without giving them a lot of
    thought. Obviously the union goons had no need of a tradesman for a long >>> time:)

    Hell to build 10,000 houses a year your going to need somewhere in the
    vicinty of 50-60,000 tradies. That's without taking into account the
    delays your liable to get waiting for resource consent and inspectors
    having the time to sign off on the various stages. Qviously this 'policy' >>> is just another example of just how far out touch Labour/Green are with
    reality. Hell the marxist muppets are even more out touch than National :) >>>
    Pooh

    It certainly is bad how National has been selling off state houses
    rather than building more, and running down apprenticeships.

    Running down apprenticeships? The government doesn't control whether people can offer apprenticeships or not.


    In some 10 or 12 years we're going to have an unemployment problem with
    all those new tradesmen and very little building work...
    And selling off unwanted stock is a business decision no matter by who
    or what...

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to Newsman on Thursday, July 07, 2016 18:53:01
    On Friday, 8 July 2016 11:29:15 UTC+12, Newsman wrote:
    On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 15:56:11 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Friday, 8 July 2016 09:55:13 UTC+12, Newsman wrote:
    On Thu, 07 Jul 2016 22:17:16 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 13:12:55 +1200, "Pooh" <rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Seems little Andys still plucking policies without giving them a lot of >> >>thought. Obviously the union goons had no need of a tradesman for a long >> >>time:)

    Hell to build 10,000 houses a year your going to need somewhere in the >> >>vicinty of 50-60,000 tradies. That's without taking into account the
    delays
    your liable to get waiting for resource consent and inspectors having
    the
    time to sign off on the various stages. Qviously this 'policy' is just >> >>another example of just how far out touch Labour/Green are with reality. >> >>Hell the marxist muppets are even more out touch than National :)

    Pooh

    It certainly is bad how National has been selling off state houses
    rather than building more, and running down apprenticeships. I suspect
    Labour will get economies of scale and mass production of some
    components to reduce costs and make better progress. It sure beats
    leavig it all to so-called market forces which in reality are more
    about private sector profit maximisation.

    None of which alters the fact that comatose New Zealand - a South Seas
    Ripvanwinkle only now waking up to its hopelessly inadequate
    infrastructure and paucity of trade skills - has a Reserve Bank caught
    in its own Catch-22 telling the bunch in the Beehive to get
    immigration under control, and a government-in-denial telling the
    Reserve Bank to get the housing market under control.

    It's called "Dialogue of the Deaf," but in this case a more apt
    description is, "Dialogue of the Boneheaded," both of 'em operating
    under New Zealand's notorioius Pontius Pilate rubric, "She'll be
    roight, mate."

    Economics 101: For the wellbeing of any country, it's not such a bad
    idea for government and central bank to be at least capable of singing
    from the same songsheet.

    A bunch of self-satisfied, proudly ignorant, underachieving wallies,
    cowardly hostages to finance from abroad and zero-productivity
    "investment" at home by a surpassingly greedy and selfish electorate.

    And it's nobody's fault but yours.

    Sounds terrible.

    Nope, it's a farce of the first water. Today's addition to the
    script:

    PM to RB Governor: "Fix my out-of-control crisis, and now!"

    RB Governor to PM: "Your job, not mine, ya under-educated spiv!"

    You have a thing about education don't you? Are you a bit insecure about your own lacking?

    And what level would you consider surpasses "under-educated", hmmm? Obviously not an undergraduate degree and high flying career in business followed by reaching the top and rubbing shoulders with world leaders and royalty. Perhaps a doctorate would do?

    Or how about "school of hard knocks" as no doubt achieved by itinerantly doing odd jobs around the world's backwaters, ala Keith Warren?


    When are you leaving?

    When I choose, but no need yet, and for two principal reasons:

    1. Chaos is profit (and how!!)

    Yeah sure. That's why you constantly whine like an out of balance washing machine, eh Keith?


    2. I can, at any time of my choosing and not yours.

    There now, you sweet, febrile infant; no need for you to panic after
    all, is there?

    Why would I panic? However it would be more pleasant around here without the ineffectual yet incessant whining from the impotent disenfranchised and utterly
    irrelevant.

    That's you, by the way.

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to gblack@hnpl.net on Friday, July 08, 2016 13:45:29
    On Fri, 8 Jul 2016 12:47:03 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    On 7/8/2016 10:50 AM, Allistar wrote:
    Rich80105 wrote:

    On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 13:12:55 +1200, "Pooh" <rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Seems little Andys still plucking policies without giving them a lot of >>>> thought. Obviously the union goons had no need of a tradesman for a long >>>> time:)

    Hell to build 10,000 houses a year your going to need somewhere in the >>>> vicinty of 50-60,000 tradies. That's without taking into account the
    delays your liable to get waiting for resource consent and inspectors
    having the time to sign off on the various stages. Qviously this 'policy' >>>> is just another example of just how far out touch Labour/Green are with >>>> reality. Hell the marxist muppets are even more out touch than National :) >>>>
    Pooh

    It certainly is bad how National has been selling off state houses
    rather than building more, and running down apprenticeships.

    Running down apprenticeships? The government doesn't control whether people >> can offer apprenticeships or not.


    In some 10 or 12 years we're going to have an unemployment problem with
    all those new tradesmen and very little building work...
    And selling off unwanted stock is a business decision no matter by who
    or what...

    Just as well National ensured that the building trades were run down
    then . . . - although it didn't work too well for Christchurch, did
    it? And the business need appears to have been to deliver increasing
    annual dividends - like cost cutting foor hospitals and education, a
    modest surplus is a much more important business goal than housing the
    homelss, caring for the sick, or educating those not wealthy enough
    for private schools . . . Bill English and JohnKey would be proud of
    you, george

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Friday, July 08, 2016 16:05:28
    On 7/07/2016 10:17 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 13:12:55 +1200, "Pooh" <rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Seems little Andys still plucking policies without giving them a lot of
    thought. Obviously the union goons had no need of a tradesman for a long
    time:)

    Hell to build 10,000 houses a year your going to need somewhere in the
    vicinty of 50-60,000 tradies. That's without taking into account the delays >> your liable to get waiting for resource consent and inspectors having the
    time to sign off on the various stages. Qviously this 'policy' is just
    another example of just how far out touch Labour/Green are with reality.
    Hell the marxist muppets are even more out touch than National :)

    Pooh

    It certainly is bad how National has been selling off state houses
    rather than building more, and running down apprenticeships. I suspect
    Labour will get economies of scale and mass production of some
    components to reduce costs and make better progress. It sure beats
    leavig it all to so-called market forces which in reality are more
    about private sector profit maximisation. . .


    So as per his usual practice the trolling twit Rich wanders off at a
    tangent. For your information (expecting comprehension from you is worse
    than expecting sense from any on the left) the discussion is about yet
    another ill conceived and stupid policy from your lords and masters (commissars) Rich. Now address the issues instead of trying to distract
    from Labours incompetence, stupidity and dirty politics.

    and YES you've been abused yet again Rich. But continuing with your
    usual ignorant avoidance of Labours many shortcomings (far more I should
    point out than Nationals) is only worthy of the abuse you call down on
    your own head by your typical lefty loopiness!

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to Newsman on Friday, July 08, 2016 16:18:25
    On 8/07/2016 11:29 a.m., Newsman wrote:
    On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 15:56:11 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Friday, 8 July 2016 09:55:13 UTC+12, Newsman wrote:
    On Thu, 07 Jul 2016 22:17:16 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 13:12:55 +1200, "Pooh" <rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Seems little Andys still plucking policies without giving them a lot of >>>>> thought. Obviously the union goons had no need of a tradesman for a long >>>>> time:)

    Hell to build 10,000 houses a year your going to need somewhere in the >>>>> vicinty of 50-60,000 tradies. That's without taking into account the delays
    your liable to get waiting for resource consent and inspectors having the >>>>> time to sign off on the various stages. Qviously this 'policy' is just >>>>> another example of just how far out touch Labour/Green are with reality. >>>>> Hell the marxist muppets are even more out touch than National :)

    Pooh

    It certainly is bad how National has been selling off state houses
    rather than building more, and running down apprenticeships. I suspect >>>> Labour will get economies of scale and mass production of some
    components to reduce costs and make better progress. It sure beats
    leavig it all to so-called market forces which in reality are more
    about private sector profit maximisation.

    None of which alters the fact that comatose New Zealand - a South Seas
    Ripvanwinkle only now waking up to its hopelessly inadequate
    infrastructure and paucity of trade skills - has a Reserve Bank caught
    in its own Catch-22 telling the bunch in the Beehive to get
    immigration under control, and a government-in-denial telling the
    Reserve Bank to get the housing market under control.

    It's called "Dialogue of the Deaf," but in this case a more apt
    description is, "Dialogue of the Boneheaded," both of 'em operating
    under New Zealand's notorioius Pontius Pilate rubric, "She'll be
    roight, mate."

    Economics 101: For the wellbeing of any country, it's not such a bad
    idea for government and central bank to be at least capable of singing
    from the same songsheet.

    A bunch of self-satisfied, proudly ignorant, underachieving wallies,
    cowardly hostages to finance from abroad and zero-productivity
    "investment" at home by a surpassingly greedy and selfish electorate.

    And it's nobody's fault but yours.

    Sounds terrible.

    Nope, it's a farce of the first water. Today's addition to the
    script:

    PM to RB Governor: "Fix my out-of-control crisis, and now!"

    RB Governor to PM: "Your job, not mine, ya under-educated spiv!"

    When are you leaving?

    When I choose, but no need yet, and for two principal reasons:

    1. Chaos is profit (and how!!)

    2. I can, at any time of my choosing and not yours.

    There now, you sweet, febrile infant; no need for you to panic after
    all, is there?


    Not Keys problem. It goes back to the beginning of the century Keith.
    but then why should we expect lucid comment from you the resident nut case?

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to Newsman on Friday, July 08, 2016 16:16:08
    On 8/07/2016 9:55 a.m., Newsman wrote:
    On Thu, 07 Jul 2016 22:17:16 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 13:12:55 +1200, "Pooh" <rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Seems little Andys still plucking policies without giving them a lot of
    thought. Obviously the union goons had no need of a tradesman for a long >>> time:)

    Hell to build 10,000 houses a year your going to need somewhere in the
    vicinty of 50-60,000 tradies. That's without taking into account the delays >>> your liable to get waiting for resource consent and inspectors having the >>> time to sign off on the various stages. Qviously this 'policy' is just
    another example of just how far out touch Labour/Green are with reality. >>> Hell the marxist muppets are even more out touch than National :)

    Pooh

    It certainly is bad how National has been selling off state houses
    rather than building more, and running down apprenticeships. I suspect
    Labour will get economies of scale and mass production of some
    components to reduce costs and make better progress. It sure beats
    leavig it all to so-called market forces which in reality are more
    about private sector profit maximisation.

    None of which alters the fact that comatose New Zealand - a South Seas Ripvanwinkle only now waking up to its hopelessly inadequate
    infrastructure and paucity of trade skills - has a Reserve Bank caught
    in its own Catch-22 telling the bunch in the Beehive to get
    immigration under control, and a government-in-denial telling the
    Reserve Bank to get the housing market under control.


    FFS Keith. Your as bad as Rich at avoiding the point and wandering off
    on another of your insane rants.

    It's called "Dialogue of the Deaf," but in this case a more apt
    description is, "Dialogue of the Boneheaded," both of 'em operating
    under New Zealand's notorioius Pontius Pilate rubric, "She'll be
    roight, mate."


    Nice rant from the resident looney toon. but then that's what we can
    expect from Keith with his oh so superior education. Pity you seem to
    have not only missed the point of my post but also seem to be ignoring
    your spell checker.

    Economics 101: For the wellbeing of any country, it's not such a bad
    idea for government and central bank to be at least capable of singing
    from the same songsheet.


    Yet another comprehension fail from Keith. What's wrong with you? Got
    the same comprehension fail of Rich or just following his trolling
    behaviour?

    A bunch of self-satisfied, proudly ignorant, underachieving wallies,
    cowardly hostages to finance from abroad and zero-productivity
    "investment" at home by a surpassingly greedy and selfish electorate.


    All things instilled in us by British overlords right up to the early
    seventys Keith. If your going to persist in your off topic insane rants
    piss off!

    And it's nobody's fault but yours.


    Not mine mate. Or do you only have residency and don't vote?

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Friday, July 08, 2016 16:24:31
    On 8/07/2016 1:45 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Jul 2016 12:47:03 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    On 7/8/2016 10:50 AM, Allistar wrote:
    Rich80105 wrote:

    On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 13:12:55 +1200, "Pooh" <rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Seems little Andys still plucking policies without giving them a lot of >>>>> thought. Obviously the union goons had no need of a tradesman for a long >>>>> time:)

    Hell to build 10,000 houses a year your going to need somewhere in the >>>>> vicinty of 50-60,000 tradies. That's without taking into account the >>>>> delays your liable to get waiting for resource consent and inspectors >>>>> having the time to sign off on the various stages. Qviously this 'policy' >>>>> is just another example of just how far out touch Labour/Green are with >>>>> reality. Hell the marxist muppets are even more out touch than National :)

    Pooh

    It certainly is bad how National has been selling off state houses
    rather than building more, and running down apprenticeships.

    Running down apprenticeships? The government doesn't control whether people >>> can offer apprenticeships or not.


    In some 10 or 12 years we're going to have an unemployment problem with
    all those new tradesmen and very little building work...
    And selling off unwanted stock is a business decision no matter by who
    or what...

    Just as well National ensured that the building trades were run down
    then . . . - although it didn't work too well for Christchurch, did
    it? And the business need appears to have been to deliver increasing
    annual dividends - like cost cutting foor hospitals and education, a
    modest surplus is a much more important business goal than housing the homelss, caring for the sick, or educating those not wealthy enough
    for private schools . . . Bill English and JohnKey would be proud of
    you, george


    So what did your glorious Labour party do to fix the problem Rich?
    According to a builder friend (self employed) turned out a bunch of
    useless buggers with certificates claiming they new the basics when in
    fact they were barely capable of holding a hammer properly!

    The Labour party must be VERY proud of you Rich. Upholding it's unstated
    policy of making shit up on the fly and ignoring any relevancy to their
    own grubby finger prints being all over the problem. This doesn't mean
    there aren't grubby prints from National over it. Both partys need to
    stop behaving like school kids having a playground spat!

    Pooh

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