http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/81661956/food-bank-short-on-spaghetti-and-baked-beans-as-winter-demand-for-food-begins
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/81661956/food-bank-short-on-spaghetti-and-baked-beans-as-winter-demand-for-food-begins
On Monday, 4 July 2016 10:07:38 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:free. Price leads to demand and demand leads to shortage. Even a child can grasp supply and demand economics.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/81661956/food-bank-short-on-spaghetti-and-baked-beans-as-winter-demand-for-food-begins
It is an economic certainty that there will be a shortage of something that is
As demonstrated in 2007 under your precious Labour government: >http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/northland/whangarei-leader/41003/Foodbank-use-up-as-prices-soar
"The foodbank needs tins of spaghetti, pasta, tea and coffee, muesli bars and egg cartons."
Was that New Zealand as Labour wanted it, Dickbot?
If you have something for free there will be an inevitable, unsatisfiable demand for it.
At least now we don't have the rampant food price inflation we had under Labour.
On Sun, 3 Jul 2016 17:11:08 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>is free. Price leads to demand and demand leads to shortage. Even a child can grasp supply and demand economics.
wrote:
On Monday, 4 July 2016 10:07:38 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/81661956/food-bank-short-on-spaghetti-and-baked-beans-as-winter-demand-for-food-begins
It is an economic certainty that there will be a shortage of something that
and egg cartons."As demonstrated in 2007 under your precious Labour government: >http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/northland/whangarei-leader/41003/Foodbank-use-up-as-prices-soar
"The foodbank needs tins of spaghetti, pasta, tea and coffee, muesli bars
demand for it.Was that New Zealand as Labour wanted it, Dickbot?
If you have something for free there will be an inevitable, unsatisfiable
Labour.At least now we don't have the rampant food price inflation we had under
Charties are well aware that they can receive requests from those not
in need - they have requirements that include budgeting, seeking
support from government sources etc.
They also work together so people
cannot go around different charities getting more . . .
Rich80105 wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/81661956/food-bank-short-on-spaghetti-and-baked-beans-as-winter-demand-for-food-begins
A political party is not responsible for people who cannot provide for their >families.
On Monday, 4 July 2016 16:02:44 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:is free. Price leads to demand and demand leads to shortage. Even a child can grasp supply and demand economics.
On Sun, 3 Jul 2016 17:11:08 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Monday, 4 July 2016 10:07:38 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/81661956/food-bank-short-on-spaghetti-and-baked-beans-as-winter-demand-for-food-begins
It is an economic certainty that there will be a shortage of something that
As demonstrated in 2007 under your precious Labour government:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/northland/whangarei-leader/41003/Foodbank-use-up-as-prices-soar
"The foodbank needs tins of spaghetti, pasta, tea and coffee, muesli bars and egg cartons."
Was that New Zealand as Labour wanted it, Dickbot?
If you have something for free there will be an inevitable, unsatisfiable demand for it.
At least now we don't have the rampant food price inflation we had under Labour.
Charties are well aware that they can receive requests from those not
in need - they have requirements that include budgeting, seeking
support from government sources etc.
Yeah right. Anyone can make themselves look poor and act dumb. It's not like they are going to deny help to someone who claims they are hungry and don't have any paperwork.
Other than names and an indication as to whether they are or are notThey also work together so people
cannot go around different charities getting more . . .
Yeah right, I'm sure they pass such personal and private details around.
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 10:19:16 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/81661956/food-bank-short-on-spaghetti-and-baked-beans-as-winter-demand-for-food-begins
A political party is not responsible for people who cannot provide for >>their families.
Unless, as most political parties in Ne Zealand have done, they say
that they do take such responsibility
- albeit that National are--
closer to your view than others, albeit they also are a long way from
your view..
Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 10:19:16 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/81661956/food-bank-short-on-spaghetti-and-baked-beans-as-winter-demand-for-food-begins
A political party is not responsible for people who cannot provide for >>>their families.
Unless, as most political parties in Ne Zealand have done, they say
that they do take such responsibility
I assume that Labour have said they take that responsibility. Surely then >this is Labour's issue too. They have said they will do something about this >situation and yet they do nothing.
Of course, that's because they don't have much access to money taken from >hard working New Zealanders. And there's the crux of this: the left think >they only way to help with this issue is by forcibly confiscating property >from other people.It is all about priorities, Allistar- do you support National's foray
Yeah right. Anyone can make themselves look poor and act dumb. It's not likethey are going to deny help to someone who claims they are hungry and don't have any paperwork.
On 7/4/2016 4:09 PM, JohnO wrote:like they are going to deny help to someone who claims they are hungry and don't have any paperwork.
Yeah right. Anyone can make themselves look poor and act dumb. It's not
Every so often a TV news crew video one of these food queues.
All I see is a queue of obese people on their cellphones.
There may well be several deserving cases in amongst them but I've never
seen one....
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 19:02:43 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 10:19:16 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/81661956/food-bank-short-on-spaghetti-and-baked-beans-as-winter-demand-for-food-begins
A political party is not responsible for people who cannot provide for >>>>their families.
Unless, as most political parties in Ne Zealand have done, they say
that they do take such responsibility
I assume that Labour have said they take that responsibility. Surely then >>this is Labour's issue too. They have said they will do something about >>this situation and yet they do nothing.
They have certainly drawn National's reductions in support to the
attention of the public, and have protested many of the bills pushing National's "trickle-down" based policies, but what would you have
expecte them to do while in opposition, Allistar?
Of course, that's because they don't have much access to money taken from >>hard working New Zealanders. And there's the crux of this: the left think >>they only way to help with this issue is by forcibly confiscating property >>from other people.
It is all about priorities, Allistar- do you support National's foray
into attemted bribery of a Saudi businessman - or at least ignoring principles and sending (at vast cost to the taxpayer) large numbers of
sheep overseas in such a way that many died before arriving?
That
money could have been better spent elsewhere . . . as could the
millions spent on the flag referendum . . .
On 7/4/2016 4:09 PM, JohnO wrote:they are going to deny help to someone who claims they are hungry and don't have any paperwork.
Yeah right. Anyone can make themselves look poor and act dumb. It's not like
Every so often a TV news crew video one of these food queues.
All I see is a queue of obese people on their cellphones.
There may well be several deserving cases in amongst them but I've never
seen one....
Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 19:02:43 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 10:19:16 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/81661956/food-bank-short-on-spaghetti-and-baked-beans-as-winter-demand-for-food-begins
A political party is not responsible for people who cannot provide for >>>>>their families.
Unless, as most political parties in Ne Zealand have done, they say
that they do take such responsibility
I assume that Labour have said they take that responsibility. Surely then >>>this is Labour's issue too. They have said they will do something about >>>this situation and yet they do nothing.
They have certainly drawn National's reductions in support to the
attention of the public, and have protested many of the bills pushing
National's "trickle-down" based policies, but what would you have
expecte them to do while in opposition, Allistar?
They're the weakest opposition this country has seen in a very long time.
Are you referring to the current discussion about compulsory purchaseOf course, that's because they don't have much access to money taken from >>>hard working New Zealanders. And there's the crux of this: the left think >>>they only way to help with this issue is by forcibly confiscating property >>>from other people.
It is all about priorities, Allistar- do you support National's foray
into attemted bribery of a Saudi businessman - or at least ignoring
principles and sending (at vast cost to the taxpayer) large numbers of
sheep overseas in such a way that many died before arriving?
I don't support any spending of confiscated property. Which is why National >are better than Labour because Labour want to increase the confiscation.
So what do you think of McCully's foray into Saudi "facilitation"That
money could have been better spent elsewhere . . . as could the
millions spent on the flag referendum . . .
It's what the left do. Spend money that's not theirs.
On Tue, 05 Jul 2016 09:40:08 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 19:02:43 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 10:19:16 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/81661956/food-bank-short-on-spaghetti-and-baked-beans-as-winter-demand-for-food-begins
A political party is not responsible for people who cannot provide for >>>>>>their families.
Unless, as most political parties in Ne Zealand have done, they say
that they do take such responsibility
I assume that Labour have said they take that responsibility. Surely >>>>then this is Labour's issue too. They have said they will do something >>>>about this situation and yet they do nothing.
They have certainly drawn National's reductions in support to the
attention of the public, and have protested many of the bills pushing
National's "trickle-down" based policies, but what would you have
expecte them to do while in opposition, Allistar?
They're the weakest opposition this country has seen in a very long time.
You may think so, but what would you expect an opposition to do,
Allistar?
Of course, that's because they don't have much access to money taken >>>>from hard working New Zealanders. And there's the crux of this: the left >>>>think they only way to help with this issue is by forcibly confiscating >>>>property from other people.
It is all about priorities, Allistar- do you support National's foray
into attemted bribery of a Saudi businessman - or at least ignoring
principles and sending (at vast cost to the taxpayer) large numbers of
sheep overseas in such a way that many died before arriving?
I don't support any spending of confiscated property. Which is why
National are better than Labour because Labour want to increase the >>confiscation.
Are you referring to the current discussion about compulsory purchase
of land for housing? That is Nick Smith and Bill English, Allistar.
That
money could have been better spent elsewhere . . . as could the
millions spent on the flag referendum . . .
It's what the left do. Spend money that's not theirs.
So what do you think of McCully's foray into Saudi "facilitation"
payments?
National are not getting the money they are spending from the tooth
fairy, Allistar.
On Tue, 5 Jul 2016 08:57:51 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:like they are going to deny help to someone who claims they are hungry and don't have any paperwork.
On 7/4/2016 4:09 PM, JohnO wrote:
Yeah right. Anyone can make themselves look poor and act dumb. It's not
Every so often a TV news crew video one of these food queues.
All I see is a queue of obese people on their cellphones.
There may well be several deserving cases in amongst them but I've never >seen one....
Cite?
I can just imagine you laying back in your La_Z-Boy, in your
underwear, your third large mug of Tui on your belly, watching your
large size plasma TV, and confusing people queing to get past security
to enter a National Party meeting with those entering a food bank.
Perhaps you should volunteer to work for a day at a real food bank;
you would learn that deserving cases cannot be so easily categorised
or dismissed . . .i
On Tuesday, 5 July 2016 10:29:36 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:deranged little wierdo.
On Tue, 5 Jul 2016 08:57:51 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 7/4/2016 4:09 PM, JohnO wrote:
Yeah right. Anyone can make themselves look poor and act dumb. It's not like they are going to deny help to someone who claims they are hungry and don't have any paperwork.Every so often a TV news crew video one of these food queues.
All I see is a queue of obese people on their cellphones.
There may well be several deserving cases in amongst them but I've never >>> seen one....
Cite?
I can just imagine you laying back in your La_Z-Boy, in your
underwear, your third large mug of Tui on your belly, watching your
large size plasma TV, and confusing people queing to get past security
to enter a National Party meeting with those entering a food bank.
I would not doubt that you often imagine George in his underwear, you
Perhaps you should volunteer to work for a day at a real food bank;
you would learn that deserving cases cannot be so easily categorised
or dismissed . . .i
He's talking about undeserving cases, you stupid little man.
On 7/5/2016 11:48 AM, JohnO wrote:To find the undeserving, you need to be able to distinguish them from
On Tuesday, 5 July 2016 10:29:36 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jul 2016 08:57:51 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 7/4/2016 4:09 PM, JohnO wrote:
Yeah right. Anyone can make themselves look poor and act dumb. It's not like they are going to deny help to someone who claims they are hungry and don't have any paperwork.Every so often a TV news crew video one of these food queues.
All I see is a queue of obese people on their cellphones.
There may well be several deserving cases in amongst them but I've never >>>> seen one....
Cite?
I can just imagine you laying back in your La_Z-Boy, in your
underwear, your third large mug of Tui on your belly, watching your
large size plasma TV, and confusing people queing to get past security
to enter a National Party meeting with those entering a food bank.
I would not doubt that you often imagine George in his underwear, you deranged little wierdo.
Perhaps you should volunteer to work for a day at a real food bank;
you would learn that deserving cases cannot be so easily categorised
or dismissed . . .i
He's talking about undeserving cases, you stupid little man.
:)
His spellchecker is broken.
His political peers are a laugh
And me with a Laziboy???
Or with a glass of Mangatainoka's best ??
The fools demented I used to drink at the bar in their brewery.
Oh and the food banks are being scammed by manyDo you have any evidence that they are?
Rich80105 wrote:They have presented plenty of that. Certainly very few are so deluded
On Tue, 05 Jul 2016 09:40:08 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 19:02:43 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 10:19:16 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com> >>>>>> wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/81661956/food-bank-short-on-spaghetti-and-baked-beans-as-winter-demand-for-food-begins
A political party is not responsible for people who cannot provide for >>>>>>>their families.
Unless, as most political parties in Ne Zealand have done, they say >>>>>> that they do take such responsibility
I assume that Labour have said they take that responsibility. Surely >>>>>then this is Labour's issue too. They have said they will do something >>>>>about this situation and yet they do nothing.
They have certainly drawn National's reductions in support to the
attention of the public, and have protested many of the bills pushing
National's "trickle-down" based policies, but what would you have
expecte them to do while in opposition, Allistar?
They're the weakest opposition this country has seen in a very long time.
You may think so, but what would you expect an opposition to do,
Allistar?
Present credible policy instead of fruitless and puerile mud slinging.
Of course, that's because they don't have much access to money taken >>>>>from hard working New Zealanders. And there's the crux of this: the left >>>>>think they only way to help with this issue is by forcibly confiscating >>>>>property from other people.
It is all about priorities, Allistar- do you support National's foray
into attemted bribery of a Saudi businessman - or at least ignoring
principles and sending (at vast cost to the taxpayer) large numbers of >>>> sheep overseas in such a way that many died before arriving?
I don't support any spending of confiscated property. Which is why >>>National are better than Labour because Labour want to increase the >>>confiscation.
Are you referring to the current discussion about compulsory purchase
of land for housing? That is Nick Smith and Bill English, Allistar.
I'm referring to Labour and the Green's saying they'll increase taxation.
That
money could have been better spent elsewhere . . . as could the
millions spent on the flag referendum . . .
It's what the left do. Spend money that's not theirs.
So what do you think of McCully's foray into Saudi "facilitation"
payments?
Not much.
National are not getting the money they are spending from the tooth
fairy, Allistar.
Er, that's what I said. The left spend money that's not theirs.
On Tue, 05 Jul 2016 12:10:13 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 05 Jul 2016 09:40:08 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 19:02:43 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 10:19:16 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/81661956/food-bank-short-on-spaghetti-and-baked-beans-as-winter-demand-for-food-begins
A political party is not responsible for people who cannot provide >>>>>>>>for their families.
Unless, as most political parties in Ne Zealand have done, they say >>>>>>> that they do take such responsibility
I assume that Labour have said they take that responsibility. Surely >>>>>>then this is Labour's issue too. They have said they will do something >>>>>>about this situation and yet they do nothing.
They have certainly drawn National's reductions in support to the
attention of the public, and have protested many of the bills pushing >>>>> National's "trickle-down" based policies, but what would you have
expecte them to do while in opposition, Allistar?
They're the weakest opposition this country has seen in a very long >>>>time.
You may think so, but what would you expect an opposition to do,
Allistar?
Present credible policy instead of fruitless and puerile mud slinging.
They have presented plenty of that.
Certainly very few are so deluded
as to believe that Labour would have letthe housing crisis go on so
long - but National knew that the longer they leave it the greater
profit their mates were making . . . - and housing is a large part of
the growing inequality - and of increased governemnt costs in welfare payments . . .
Of course, that's because they don't have much access to money taken >>>>>>from hard working New Zealanders. And there's the crux of this: the >>>>>>left think they only way to help with this issue is by forcibly >>>>>>confiscating property from other people.
It is all about priorities, Allistar- do you support National's foray >>>>> into attemted bribery of a Saudi businessman - or at least ignoring
principles and sending (at vast cost to the taxpayer) large numbers of >>>>> sheep overseas in such a way that many died before arriving?
I don't support any spending of confiscated property. Which is why >>>>National are better than Labour because Labour want to increase the >>>>confiscation.
Are you referring to the current discussion about compulsory purchase
of land for housing? That is Nick Smith and Bill English, Allistar.
I'm referring to Labour and the Green's saying they'll increase taxation.
Oh Really? I do not believe your assertion - what evidence do you have
to support it?
That
money could have been better spent elsewhere . . . as could the
millions spent on the flag referendum . . .
It's what the left do. Spend money that's not theirs.
So what do you think of McCully's foray into Saudi "facilitation"
payments?
Not much.
National are not getting the money they are spending from the tooth
fairy, Allistar.
Er, that's what I said. The left spend money that's not theirs.
And so do the right - but they spend on less useful things . . .
Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 05 Jul 2016 12:10:13 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 05 Jul 2016 09:40:08 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 19:02:43 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com> >>>>>> wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 10:19:16 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/81661956/food-bank-short-on-spaghetti-and-baked-beans-as-winter-demand-for-food-begins
A political party is not responsible for people who cannot provide >>>>>>>>>for their families.
Unless, as most political parties in Ne Zealand have done, they say >>>>>>>> that they do take such responsibility
I assume that Labour have said they take that responsibility. Surely >>>>>>>then this is Labour's issue too. They have said they will do something >>>>>>>about this situation and yet they do nothing.
They have certainly drawn National's reductions in support to the
attention of the public, and have protested many of the bills pushing >>>>>> National's "trickle-down" based policies, but what would you have
expecte them to do while in opposition, Allistar?
They're the weakest opposition this country has seen in a very long >>>>>time.
You may think so, but what would you expect an opposition to do,
Allistar?
Present credible policy instead of fruitless and puerile mud slinging.
They have presented plenty of that.
If that's true then they do a very poor job getting the message out. All we >see in the media in regards to Labour is their continual politics of abuse.
Certainly very few are so deluded
as to believe that Labour would have letthe housing crisis go on so
long - but National knew that the longer they leave it the greater
profit their mates were making . . . - and housing is a large part of
the growing inequality - and of increased governemnt costs in welfare
payments . . .
Of course, that's because they don't have much access to money taken >>>>>>>from hard working New Zealanders. And there's the crux of this: the >>>>>>>left think they only way to help with this issue is by forcibly >>>>>>>confiscating property from other people.
It is all about priorities, Allistar- do you support National's foray >>>>>> into attemted bribery of a Saudi businessman - or at least ignoring >>>>>> principles and sending (at vast cost to the taxpayer) large numbers of >>>>>> sheep overseas in such a way that many died before arriving?
I don't support any spending of confiscated property. Which is why >>>>>National are better than Labour because Labour want to increase the >>>>>confiscation.
Are you referring to the current discussion about compulsory purchase
of land for housing? That is Nick Smith and Bill English, Allistar.
I'm referring to Labour and the Green's saying they'll increase taxation.
Oh Really? I do not believe your assertion - what evidence do you have
to support it?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/80272365/Tax-increases-on-the-table-for-Labour-for-2017-campaign
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/294400/tax-hike-among-labour%27s-employment-policy-options
https://www.greens.org.nz/policy/fairer-society/reducing-child-poverty
https://www.greens.org.nz/policy/smarter-economy/fiscals
That
money could have been better spent elsewhere . . . as could the
millions spent on the flag referendum . . .
It's what the left do. Spend money that's not theirs.
So what do you think of McCully's foray into Saudi "facilitation"
payments?
Not much.
National are not getting the money they are spending from the tooth
fairy, Allistar.
Er, that's what I said. The left spend money that's not theirs.
And so do the right - but they spend on less useful things . . .
What are you talking about? We currently have a left leaning government.
--
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/81661956/food-bank-short-on-spaghetti-and-baked-beans-as-winter-demand-for-food-begins
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 10:19:16 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/81661956/food-bank-short-on-spaghetti-and-baked-beans-as-winter-demand-for-food-begins
A political party is not responsible for people who cannot provide for >>their
families.
Unless, as most political parties in Ne Zealand have done, they say
that they do take such responsibility - albeit that National are
closer to your view than others, albeit they also are a long way from
your view..
On Tue, 05 Jul 2016 09:40:08 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 19:02:43 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 10:19:16 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/81661956/food-bank-short-on-spaghetti-and-baked-beans-as-winter-demand-for-food-begins
A political party is not responsible for people who cannot provide for >>>>>> their families.
Unless, as most political parties in Ne Zealand have done, they say
that they do take such responsibility
I assume that Labour have said they take that responsibility. Surely then >>>> this is Labour's issue too. They have said they will do something about >>>> this situation and yet they do nothing.
They have certainly drawn National's reductions in support to the
attention of the public, and have protested many of the bills pushing
National's "trickle-down" based policies, but what would you have
expecte them to do while in opposition, Allistar?
They're the weakest opposition this country has seen in a very long time.
You may think so, but what would you expect an opposition to do,
Allistar?
Are you referring to the current discussion about compulsory purchaseOf course, that's because they don't have much access to money taken from >>>> hard working New Zealanders. And there's the crux of this: the left think >>>> they only way to help with this issue is by forcibly confiscating property >>> >from other people.
It is all about priorities, Allistar- do you support National's foray
into attemted bribery of a Saudi businessman - or at least ignoring
principles and sending (at vast cost to the taxpayer) large numbers of
sheep overseas in such a way that many died before arriving?
I don't support any spending of confiscated property. Which is why National >> are better than Labour because Labour want to increase the confiscation.
of land for housing? That is Nick Smith and Bill English, Allistar.
So what do you think of McCully's foray into Saudi "facilitation"That
money could have been better spent elsewhere . . . as could the
millions spent on the flag referendum . . .
It's what the left do. Spend money that's not theirs.
payments?
National are not getting the money they are spending from the tooth
fairy, Allistar.
On 7/5/2016 11:48 AM, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 5 July 2016 10:29:36 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote::)
On Tue, 5 Jul 2016 08:57:51 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 7/4/2016 4:09 PM, JohnO wrote:
Yeah right. Anyone can make themselves look poor and act dumb. It'sEvery so often a TV news crew video one of these food queues.
not like they are going to deny help to someone who claims they are
hungry and don't have any paperwork.
All I see is a queue of obese people on their cellphones.
There may well be several deserving cases in amongst them but I've
never
seen one....
Cite?
I can just imagine you laying back in your La_Z-Boy, in your
underwear, your third large mug of Tui on your belly, watching your
large size plasma TV, and confusing people queing to get past security
to enter a National Party meeting with those entering a food bank.
I would not doubt that you often imagine George in his underwear, you
deranged little wierdo.
Perhaps you should volunteer to work for a day at a real food bank;
you would learn that deserving cases cannot be so easily categorised
or dismissed . . .i
He's talking about undeserving cases, you stupid little man.
His spellchecker is broken.
His political peers are a laugh
And me with a Laziboy???
Or with a glass of Mangatainoka's best ??
The fools demented I used to drink at the bar in their brewery.
Oh and the food banks are being scammed by many
On Tue, 5 Jul 2016 13:30:31 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 7/5/2016 11:48 AM, JohnO wrote:To find the undeserving, you need to be able to distinguish them from
On Tuesday, 5 July 2016 10:29:36 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jul 2016 08:57:51 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 7/4/2016 4:09 PM, JohnO wrote:
Yeah right. Anyone can make themselves look poor and act dumb. It's not like they are going to deny help to someone who claims they are hungry and don't have any paperwork.Every so often a TV news crew video one of these food queues.
All I see is a queue of obese people on their cellphones.
There may well be several deserving cases in amongst them but I've never >>>>> seen one....
Cite?
I can just imagine you laying back in your La_Z-Boy, in your
underwear, your third large mug of Tui on your belly, watching your
large size plasma TV, and confusing people queing to get past security >>>> to enter a National Party meeting with those entering a food bank.
I would not doubt that you often imagine George in his underwear, you deranged little wierdo.
Perhaps you should volunteer to work for a day at a real food bank;
you would learn that deserving cases cannot be so easily categorised
or dismissed . . .i
He's talking about undeserving cases, you stupid little man.
the deserving - I do not believe (based on quite a few discussions
with a friend who volunteers for one of them) that the charities
providing these services are incompetent - they are not.
:)
His spellchecker is broken.
His political peers are a laugh
And me with a Laziboy???
Or with a glass of Mangatainoka's best ??
The fools demented I used to drink at the bar in their brewery.
So I was quite close then . . .
Oh and the food banks are being scammed by manyDo you have any evidence that they are?
On Wed, 06 Jul 2016 10:23:06 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 05 Jul 2016 12:10:13 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 05 Jul 2016 09:40:08 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 19:02:43 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 10:19:16 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/81661956/food-bank-short-on-spaghetti-and-baked-beans-as-winter-demand-for-food-begins
A political party is not responsible for people who cannot provide >>>>>>>>>> for their families.
Unless, as most political parties in Ne Zealand have done, they say >>>>>>>>> that they do take such responsibility
I assume that Labour have said they take that responsibility. Surely >>>>>>>> then this is Labour's issue too. They have said they will do something >>>>>>>> about this situation and yet they do nothing.
They have certainly drawn National's reductions in support to the >>>>>>> attention of the public, and have protested many of the bills pushing >>>>>>> National's "trickle-down" based policies, but what would you have >>>>>>> expecte them to do while in opposition, Allistar?
They're the weakest opposition this country has seen in a very long >>>>>> time.
You may think so, but what would you expect an opposition to do,
Allistar?
Present credible policy instead of fruitless and puerile mud slinging.
They have presented plenty of that.
If that's true then they do a very poor job getting the message out. All we >> see in the media in regards to Labour is their continual politics of abuse. >>
Certainly very few are so deluded
as to believe that Labour would have letthe housing crisis go on so
long - but National knew that the longer they leave it the greater
profit their mates were making . . . - and housing is a large part of
the growing inequality - and of increased governemnt costs in welfare
payments . . .
Oh Really? I do not believe your assertion - what evidence do you have
Of course, that's because they don't have much access to money taken >>>>>>> >from hard working New Zealanders. And there's the crux of this: the >>>>>>>> left think they only way to help with this issue is by forcibly >>>>>>>> confiscating property from other people.
It is all about priorities, Allistar- do you support National's foray >>>>>>> into attemted bribery of a Saudi businessman - or at least ignoring >>>>>>> principles and sending (at vast cost to the taxpayer) large numbers of >>>>>>> sheep overseas in such a way that many died before arriving?
I don't support any spending of confiscated property. Which is why >>>>>> National are better than Labour because Labour want to increase the >>>>>> confiscation.
Are you referring to the current discussion about compulsory purchase >>>>> of land for housing? That is Nick Smith and Bill English, Allistar.
I'm referring to Labour and the Green's saying they'll increase taxation. >>>
to support it?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/80272365/Tax-increases-on-the-table-for-Labour-for-2017-campaign
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/294400/tax-hike-among-labour%27s-employment-policy-options
https://www.greens.org.nz/policy/fairer-society/reducing-child-poverty
https://www.greens.org.nz/policy/smarter-economy/fiscals
That
money could have been better spent elsewhere . . . as could the
millions spent on the flag referendum . . .
It's what the left do. Spend money that's not theirs.
So what do you think of McCully's foray into Saudi "facilitation"
payments?
Not much.
National are not getting the money they are spending from the tooth
fairy, Allistar.
Er, that's what I said. The left spend money that's not theirs.
And so do the right - but they spend on less useful things . . .
What are you talking about? We currently have a left leaning government.
--
Always have had,
In all its arrogated exceptionalism, "egalitarian" New Zealand has
long since marked itself as the free west's most communistic member.
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