• Re: Can somebody help please? NZ superannuation gross and tax, for tax

    From JohnO@3:770/3 to geopelia on Wednesday, June 29, 2016 22:00:23
    On Thursday, 30 June 2016 16:42:49 UTC+12, geopelia wrote:
    I've been Googling for over an hour and can't find an answer.

    I need to know the gross and tax for NZ Superannuation 2015 -2016 year for
    my IR3 return.

    Does anybody know please? I've tried IRD abd WINZ sites.

    Geopelia

    Hi Geo,

    Your income tax statement should have been posted to you by now. But even if the dog ate it, WINZ will post you another statement - you'll just have to phone them up and ask them to do so.

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  • From geopelia@3:770/3 to geopelia on Thursday, June 30, 2016 19:58:29
    "JohnO" wrote in message news:96a318f3-ba15-400e-9e42-84a6b7330572@googlegroups.com...

    On Thursday, 30 June 2016 16:42:49 UTC+12, geopelia wrote:
    I've been Googling for over an hour and can't find an answer.

    I need to know the gross and tax for NZ Superannuation 2015 -2016 year for
    my IR3 return.

    Does anybody know please? I've tried IRD abd WINZ sites.

    Geopelia

    Hi Geo,

    Your income tax statement should have been posted to you by now. But even if the dog ate it, WINZ will post you another statement - you'll just have to phone them up and ask them to do so.
    ......

    Thank you.
    I never get anything about tax from WINZ. I'll try phoning them tomorrow.
    All I need are the figures for gross and tax.
    Somebody must know what the pension is. Or I could try the IRD, they
    probably know. But none of the many websites I have tried have anything. .Otherwise I could add up all the pension amounts in my bank book, but that
    is the Net amount. I need the gross and tax.
    Perhaps the tax people themselves will know. I could try phoning them too. Looks like I'll spend most of tomorrow sitting on the phone.

    Geopelia

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  • From Newsman@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, June 30, 2016 22:50:57
    On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 16:42:47 +1200, "geopelia" <geopelia@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    I've been Googling for over an hour and can't find an answer.

    I need to know the gross and tax for NZ Superannuation 2015 -2016 year for
    my IR3 return.

    Does anybody know please? I've tried IRD abd WINZ sites.

    Geopelia

    Single, living alone: Gross: $886.86 > less tax at M = Net: $769.52

    Single, sharing: Gross: $815.06 > less tax at M = Net: $710.32

    http://www.workandincome.govt.nz/eligibility/seniors/superannuation/payment-rates.html
    :

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  • From Fred@3:770/3 to JohnO on Friday, July 01, 2016 11:16:55
    On 30/06/2016 5:00 PM, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 30 June 2016 16:42:49 UTC+12, geopelia wrote:
    I've been Googling for over an hour and can't find an answer.

    I need to know the gross and tax for NZ Superannuation 2015 -2016 year for >> my IR3 return.

    Does anybody know please? I've tried IRD abd WINZ sites.

    Geopelia

    Hi Geo,

    Your income tax statement should have been posted to you by now. But even if
    the dog ate it, WINZ will post you another statement - you'll just have to phone them up and ask them to do so.


    Look here http://www.workandincome.govt.nz/map/deskfile/nz-superannuation-and-veterans-pension-tables/new-zealand-superannuation-and-veterans-pension-ra.html

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to Newsman on Thursday, June 30, 2016 16:34:33
    On Friday, 1 July 2016 10:50:58 UTC+12, Newsman wrote:
    On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 16:42:47 +1200, "geopelia" <geopelia@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    I've been Googling for over an hour and can't find an answer.

    I need to know the gross and tax for NZ Superannuation 2015 -2016 year for >my IR3 return.

    Does anybody know please? I've tried IRD abd WINZ sites.

    Geopelia

    Single, living alone: Gross: $886.86 > less tax at M = Net: $769.52

    Single, sharing: Gross: $815.06 > less tax at M = Net: $710.32

    http://www.workandincome.govt.nz/eligibility/seniors/superannuation/payment-rates.html
    :

    Careful, aren't those the new rates? Last fiscal year's rates are further down.

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  • From geopelia@3:770/3 to Newsman on Friday, July 01, 2016 18:26:51
    "JohnO" wrote in message news:37f5f83f-c16d-4fcd-be8e-408496be1332@googlegroups.com...

    On Friday, 1 July 2016 10:50:58 UTC+12, Newsman wrote:
    On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 16:42:47 +1200, "geopelia" <geopelia@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    I've been Googling for over an hour and can't find an answer.

    I need to know the gross and tax for NZ Superannuation 2015 -2016 year
    for
    my IR3 return.

    Does anybody know please? I've tried IRD abd WINZ sites.

    Geopelia


    Thanks to all. I've finally managed to get a number at WINZ to phone, and a very nice lady was able to answer right away.

    They just want your client number (on the gold card) and their computer produces the figures.

    Years ago, they used to send out a little form, as the banks do. I wonder
    why that was stopped.

    Now I had better get a HOP card. I haven't been on a bus since the 1960s!

    Geopelia

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  • From peterwn@3:770/3 to geopelia on Sunday, July 03, 2016 01:53:14
    On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 4:42:49 PM UTC+12, geopelia wrote:
    I've been Googling for over an hour and can't find an answer.

    I need to know the gross and tax for NZ Superannuation 2015 -2016 year for my IR3 return.

    Does anybody know please? I've tried IRD abd WINZ sites.

    Geopelia

    Do your IR3 on line. Round about mid May, IRD 'populates' on line IR3 returns with your PAYE information (gross, PAYE tax and earner ACC) so you do not have to find it out and enter it yourself. The on line IR3 does needed calculations and you can save
    the draft, come back and amend it, so there is no fear of it suddenly shooting off to IRD before you have got it right.

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  • From geopelia@3:770/3 to geopelia on Monday, July 04, 2016 00:01:18
    "peterwn" wrote in message news:0ed55ef8-cc99-453f-99eb-dff272b43345@googlegroups.com...

    On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 4:42:49 PM UTC+12, geopelia wrote:
    I've been Googling for over an hour and can't find an answer.

    I need to know the gross and tax for NZ Superannuation 2015 -2016 year for
    my IR3 return.

    Does anybody know please? I've tried IRD abd WINZ sites.

    Geopelia

    Do your IR3 on line. Round about mid May, IRD 'populates' on line IR3
    returns with your PAYE information (gross, PAYE tax and earner ACC) so you
    do not have to find it out and enter it yourself. The on line IR3 does
    needed calculations and you can save the draft, come back and amend it, so there is no fear of it suddenly shooting off to IRD before you have got it right.

    ........

    I print out the form from the computer. I ask them to send me one but it doesn't arrive. The form and the guide are on the computer.
    I don't know why I bother. I get a few dollars back from the imputation credits., but they are not worth all the trouble. I suppose they would start chasing me though if I didn't send in a form.

    I'll look at the on line version next year for the figures. Thank you for
    the suggestion.

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  • From peterwn@3:770/3 to All on Sunday, July 03, 2016 12:51:06
    I suspect you need to do a IR3 because you are receiving investment income. It does not matter if your return is a bit late (due 7 July), IRD is very unlikely
    to be fussed and even if they are they will accept a reasonable explanation such as your having
    problems finding your super details. If you do it on-line and the refund is relatively small, you will probably get it in a week or two.

    Even if you do not want to do a on-line IR3, you should still get a IRD user and login. It is easy to do. Once you have that, you can see the PAYE information for your National Superannuation and from your employer if any. It is better to use this
    information rather than working it out yourself (especially if circumstances and amounts changed during the year).

    Similarly if you have mislaid share dividend advices, you can get logins with Computershare and Link (they handle between them virtually all listed companies), and you can print out another copy if need be.

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  • From geopelia@3:770/3 to All on Monday, July 04, 2016 18:15:35
    "peterwn" wrote in message news:f4df66dc-e55b-4a2c-a2ee-c49397196af0@googlegroups.com...

    I suspect you need to do a IR3 because you are receiving investment income.
    It does not matter if your return is a bit late (due 7 July), IRD is very unlikely to be fussed and even if they are they will accept a reasonable explanation such as your having problems finding your super details. If you
    do it on-line and the refund is relatively small, you will probably get it
    in a week or two.

    Even if you do not want to do a on-line IR3, you should still get a IRD user and login. It is easy to do. Once you have that, you can see the PAYE information for your National Superannuation and from your employer if any.
    It is better to use this information rather than working it out yourself (especially if circumstances and amounts changed during the year).

    Similarly if you have mislaid share dividend advices, you can get logins
    with Computershare and Link (they handle between them virtually all listed companies), and you can print out another copy if need be.
    ........
    Thank you. I have got a tax number. I asked for an IR3 and the Guide but
    none arrived, so I printed the IR3 form out from the computer, and found the guide there. I will be late as I have been having printer problems. Most of the IR3 questions don't apply to me anyway.

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  • From greybeard@3:770/3 to Fred on Saturday, July 16, 2016 09:46:19
    On 01/07/16 11:16, Fred wrote:
    On 30/06/2016 5:00 PM, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 30 June 2016 16:42:49 UTC+12, geopelia wrote:
    I've been Googling for over an hour and can't find an answer.

    I need to know the gross and tax for NZ Superannuation 2015 -2016
    year for
    my IR3 return.

    Does anybody know please? I've tried IRD abd WINZ sites.

    Geopelia

    Hi Geo,

    Your income tax statement should have been posted to you by now. But
    even if the dog ate it, WINZ will post you another statement - you'll
    just have to phone them up and ask them to do so.


    Look here http://www.workandincome.govt.nz/map/deskfile/nz-superannuation-and-veterans-pension-tables/new-zealand-superannuation-and-veterans-pension-ra.html




    Thanks to the contributors to this thread, I've had a discussion
    with WINZ and now receive the correct national superannuation rate.
    And a bonus lump sum in arrears.


    cheers.

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  • From geopelia@3:770/3 to Fred on Monday, July 18, 2016 15:52:29
    "greybeard" wrote in message news:nmbljd$v5t$1@dont-email.me...

    On 01/07/16 11:16, Fred wrote:
    On 30/06/2016 5:00 PM, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 30 June 2016 16:42:49 UTC+12, geopelia wrote:
    I've been Googling for over an hour and can't find an answer.

    I need to know the gross and tax for NZ Superannuation 2015 -2016
    year for
    my IR3 return.

    Does anybody know please? I've tried IRD abd WINZ sites.

    Geopelia

    Hi Geo,

    Your income tax statement should have been posted to you by now. But
    even if the dog ate it, WINZ will post you another statement - you'll
    just have to phone them up and ask them to do so.


    Look here http://www.workandincome.govt.nz/map/deskfile/nz-superannuation-and-veterans-pension-tables/new-zealand-superannuation-and-veterans-pension-ra.html




    Thanks to the contributors to this thread, I've had a discussion
    with WINZ and now receive the correct national superannuation rate.
    And a bonus lump sum in arrears.


    cheers.
    ...........
    That's nice.

    I sent in my tax and hope they can make sense of it. Should get a few imputation credits back, but I'm not worried.

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