We know for a fact Teina Pora didn't do it.I just hope that Teina gets good advice on how to invest the money; well invested it should help him lead a comfortable life.
Unlike David Bain.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/81070436/teina-pora-to-receive-2-million-compensation-payout
We know for a fact Teina Pora didn't do it.
Unlike David Bain.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/81070436/teina-pora-to-receive-2-million-compensation-payout
We know for a fact Teina Pora didn't do it.
Unlike David Bain.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/81070436/teina-pora-to-receive-2-million-compensation-payout
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
We know for a fact Teina Pora didn't do it.I just hope that Teina gets good advice on how to invest the money; well >invested it should help him lead a comfortable life.
Unlike David Bain.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/81070436/teina-pora-to-receive-2-million-compensation-payout
Tony
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
We know for a fact Teina Pora didn't do it.I just hope that Teina gets good advice on how to invest the money; well >invested it should help him lead a comfortable life.
Unlike David Bain.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/81070436/teina-pora-to-receive-2-million-compensation-payout
Tony
Same here otherwize the family bros will all be holding their hands
out and it will be gone with a year or two. $2 mil is not much for
being locked up 20 years. I heard of a guy in Canada today that got
locked up for 20 years and got $10 mil. In the US you most likely get
lots more..
On 6/14/2016 6:45 PM, JohnO wrote:
We know for a fact Teina Pora didn't do it.
Unlike David Bain.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/81070436/teina-pora-to-receive-2-million-compensation-payout
The pay out should come from the police budget and they can reimburse >themselves by taking the salaries/retirement of those cops who caused
this debacle
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
We know for a fact Teina Pora didn't do it.I just hope that Teina gets good advice on how to invest the money; well >>invested it should help him lead a comfortable life.
Unlike David Bain.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/81070436/teina-pora-to-receive-2-million-compensation-payout
Tony
Same here otherwize the family bros will all be holding their hands
out and it will be gone with a year or two. $2 mil is not much for
being locked up 20 years. I heard of a guy in Canada today that got
locked up for 20 years and got $10 mil. In the US you most likely get
lots more..
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:31:56 +1200, Mutlley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
We know for a fact Teina Pora didn't do it.I just hope that Teina gets good advice on how to invest the money; well >>>invested it should help him lead a comfortable life.
Unlike David Bain.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/81070436/teina-pora-to-receive-2-million-compensation-payout
Tony
Same here otherwize the family bros will all be holding their hands
out and it will be gone with a year or two. $2 mil is not much for
being locked up 20 years. I heard of a guy in Canada today that got >>locked up for 20 years and got $10 mil. In the US you most likely get
lots more..
You are undoubtedly correct, but National excel in choosing numbers
which are the minimum they can get away with without a huge fuss. To
most people $2 million is a huge number; in reality it is less than
Muldoon gave Arthur Thomas - $950,000 in 1980 which is probably
equivalent to about $4 million now. Muldoon of course cared about
people more than the current lot, but the Nats have probably focus
grouped the decision and found that $2 million will be enough that
they don't lose votes from it.
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:31:56 +1200, Mutlley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
We know for a fact Teina Pora didn't do it.I just hope that Teina gets good advice on how to invest the money; well >>invested it should help him lead a comfortable life.
Unlike David Bain.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/81070436/teina-pora-to-receive-2-million-compensation-payout
Tony
Same here otherwize the family bros will all be holding their hands
out and it will be gone with a year or two. $2 mil is not much for
being locked up 20 years. I heard of a guy in Canada today that got >locked up for 20 years and got $10 mil. In the US you most likely get
lots more..
You are undoubtedly correct, but National excel in choosing numbers
which are the minimum they can get away with without a huge fuss. To
most people $2 million is a huge number; in reality it is less than
Muldoon gave Arthur Thomas - $950,000 in 1980 which is probably
equivalent to about $4 million now. Muldoon of course cared about
people more than the current lot,
but the Nats have probably focus
grouped the decision and found that $2 million will be enough that
they don't lose votes from it.
On Wednesday, 15 June 2016 15:30:48 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:reasons that should be obvious to anyone not completely ignorant of the case.
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:31:56 +1200, Mutlley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
We know for a fact Teina Pora didn't do it.I just hope that Teina gets good advice on how to invest the money; well >>>> invested it should help him lead a comfortable life.
Unlike David Bain.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/81070436/teina-pora-to-receive-2-million-compensation-payout
Tony
Same here otherwize the family bros will all be holding their hands
out and it will be gone with a year or two. $2 mil is not much for
being locked up 20 years. I heard of a guy in Canada today that got
locked up for 20 years and got $10 mil. In the US you most likely get
lots more..
You are undoubtedly correct, but National excel in choosing numbers
which are the minimum they can get away with without a huge fuss. To
most people $2 million is a huge number; in reality it is less than
Muldoon gave Arthur Thomas - $950,000 in 1980 which is probably
Of course it is less than the amount Thomas was awarded you fool - for
make themselves un-electable.equivalent to about $4 million now. Muldoon of course cared about
people more than the current lot,
ROTFLMAO. God you're an idiot.
but the Nats have probably focus
grouped the decision and found that $2 million will be enough that
they don't lose votes from it.
The way they're going you'd think Labour use focus groups to see how best to
Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:31:56 +1200, Mutlley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
We know for a fact Teina Pora didn't do it.I just hope that Teina gets good advice on how to invest the money; well >>>>invested it should help him lead a comfortable life.
Unlike David Bain.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/81070436/teina-pora-to-receive-2-million-compensation-payout
Tony
Same here otherwize the family bros will all be holding their hands
out and it will be gone with a year or two. $2 mil is not much for >>>being locked up 20 years. I heard of a guy in Canada today that got >>>locked up for 20 years and got $10 mil. In the US you most likely get >>>lots more..
You are undoubtedly correct, but National excel in choosing numbers
which are the minimum they can get away with without a huge fuss. To
most people $2 million is a huge number; in reality it is less than
Muldoon gave Arthur Thomas - $950,000 in 1980 which is probably
equivalent to about $4 million now. Muldoon of course cared about
people more than the current lot, but the Nats have probably focus
grouped the decision and found that $2 million will be enough that
they don't lose votes from it.
You're forgetting where the money comes from. As always.
On Wednesday, 15 June 2016 15:30:48 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:that should be obvious to anyone not completely ignorant of the case.
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:31:56 +1200, Mutlley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
We know for a fact Teina Pora didn't do it.I just hope that Teina gets good advice on how to invest the money; well >> >>invested it should help him lead a comfortable life.
Unlike David Bain.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/81070436/teina-pora-to-receive-2-million-compensation-payout
Tony
Same here otherwize the family bros will all be holding their hands
out and it will be gone with a year or two. $2 mil is not much for
being locked up 20 years. I heard of a guy in Canada today that got
locked up for 20 years and got $10 mil. In the US you most likely get
lots more..
You are undoubtedly correct, but National excel in choosing numbers
which are the minimum they can get away with without a huge fuss. To
most people $2 million is a huge number; in reality it is less than
Muldoon gave Arthur Thomas - $950,000 in 1980 which is probably
Of course it is less than the amount Thomas was awarded you fool - for reasons
equivalent to about $4 million now. Muldoon of course cared about
people more than the current lot,
ROTFLMAO. God you're an idiot.
but the Nats have probably focus
grouped the decision and found that $2 million will be enough that
they don't lose votes from it.
The way they're going you'd think Labour use focus groups to see how best to make themselves un-electable.
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:37:51 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:31:56 +1200, Mutlley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
We know for a fact Teina Pora didn't do it.I just hope that Teina gets good advice on how to invest the money; >>>>>well invested it should help him lead a comfortable life.
Unlike David Bain.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/81070436/teina-pora-to-receive-2-million-compensation-payout
Tony
Same here otherwize the family bros will all be holding their hands >>>>out and it will be gone with a year or two. $2 mil is not much for >>>>being locked up 20 years. I heard of a guy in Canada today that got >>>>locked up for 20 years and got $10 mil. In the US you most likely get >>>>lots more..
You are undoubtedly correct, but National excel in choosing numbers
which are the minimum they can get away with without a huge fuss. To
most people $2 million is a huge number; in reality it is less than
Muldoon gave Arthur Thomas - $950,000 in 1980 which is probably
equivalent to about $4 million now. Muldoon of course cared about
people more than the current lot, but the Nats have probably focus
grouped the decision and found that $2 million will be enough that
they don't lose votes from it.
You're forgetting where the money comes from. As always.
So would it be better if Pora had sued the government for wrongful imprisonment? He may well have got more - and certainly there would
have been some lawyers happy to help - for a fee. Commentators have
said that if this happened in America the award would have been
significantly larger - would you be happy with that, Allistar?
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 21:01:25 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>reasons that should be obvious to anyone not completely ignorant of the case.
wrote:
On Wednesday, 15 June 2016 15:30:48 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:31:56 +1200, Mutlley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
We know for a fact Teina Pora didn't do it.I just hope that Teina gets good advice on how to invest the money; well >> >>invested it should help him lead a comfortable life.
Unlike David Bain.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/81070436/teina-pora-to-receive-2-million-compensation-payout
Tony
Same here otherwize the family bros will all be holding their hands
out and it will be gone with a year or two. $2 mil is not much for
being locked up 20 years. I heard of a guy in Canada today that got
locked up for 20 years and got $10 mil. In the US you most likely get
lots more..
You are undoubtedly correct, but National excel in choosing numbers
which are the minimum they can get away with without a huge fuss. To
most people $2 million is a huge number; in reality it is less than
Muldoon gave Arthur Thomas - $950,000 in 1980 which is probably
Of course it is less than the amount Thomas was awarded you fool - for
Are you referring to Pora being imprisoned for a different period of
time than Thomas?
Taking that into account, what should the $2.5
million have been, JohnO?
equivalent to about $4 million now. Muldoon of course cared about
people more than the current lot,
ROTFLMAO. God you're an idiot.
I am flattered that you think I am a deity,
but disappointed that you
have no argument to support any argument you may be making - although
I expect you were just being irrelevant . . .
make themselves un-electable.but the Nats have probably focus
grouped the decision and found that $2 million will be enough that
they don't lose votes from it.
The way they're going you'd think Labour use focus groups to see how best to
Why do you say that? What have Labour said about the compensation for
Pora?
this has to come from people who had no say in how this was run. The moral hazard in this stinks.
We know for a fact Teina Pora didn't do it.
Unlike David Bain.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/81070436/teina-pora-to-receive-2-million-compensation-payout
On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 6:45:06 PM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:to advise the government on appropriate compensation is just a cop-out. This is a moral issue and lawyers are the last people to consult on moral issues. Doubtless he has
We know for a fact Teina Pora didn't do it.
Unlike David Bain.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/81070436/teina-pora-to-receive-2-million-compensation-payout
By appointing a lawyer, who surely knows on which side his bread is buttered,
The figure should be determined by a jury with the median (not the average)figure being selected. Selection of the median figure, rather than the average, removes the effects of idiots at either end of the scale.
Both the case for the victim and the case for the Crown would be argued bylawyers representing both sides. The victim's lawyer's fee or reward would be proportional to the award to his client but paid by the Crown. That might keep
Alternatively the rate, whatever it may be, should increase with time becausean increasing proportion of the victim's life is taken from him. I suggest that
On Wednesday, 15 June 2016 15:30:48 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:31:56 +1200, Mutlley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
We know for a fact Teina Pora didn't do it.I just hope that Teina gets good advice on how to invest the money;
Unlike David Bain.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/81070436/teina-pora-to-receive-2-million-compensation-payout
well
invested it should help him lead a comfortable life.
Tony
Same here otherwize the family bros will all be holding their hands
out and it will be gone with a year or two. $2 mil is not much for
being locked up 20 years. I heard of a guy in Canada today that got
locked up for 20 years and got $10 mil. In the US you most likely get
lots more..
You are undoubtedly correct, but National excel in choosing numbers
which are the minimum they can get away with without a huge fuss. To
most people $2 million is a huge number; in reality it is less than
Muldoon gave Arthur Thomas - $950,000 in 1980 which is probably
Of course it is less than the amount Thomas was awarded you fool - for reasons that should be obvious to anyone not completely ignorant of the
case.
equivalent to about $4 million now. Muldoon of course cared about
people more than the current lot,
ROTFLMAO. God you're an idiot.
but the Nats have probably focus
grouped the decision and found that $2 million will be enough that
they don't lose votes from it.
The way they're going you'd think Labour use focus groups to see how best
to make themselves un-electable.
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:14:13 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 6/14/2016 6:45 PM, JohnO wrote:
We know for a fact Teina Pora didn't do it.
Unlike David Bain.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/81070436/teina-pora-to-receive-2-million-compensation-payout
The pay out should come from the police budget and they can reimburse >>themselves by taking the salaries/retirement of those cops who caused
this debacle
Do you think the police who caused the debace can still be identified?
If any are still around, what legal means are you proposing to take
from salaries / retirement income?
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
We know for a fact Teina Pora didn't do it.I just hope that Teina gets good advice on how to invest the money; well
Unlike David Bain.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/81070436/teina-pora-to-receive-2-million-compensation-payout
invested it should help him lead a comfortable life.
Tony
Same here otherwize the family bros will all be holding their hands
out and it will be gone with a year or two. $2 mil is not much for
being locked up 20 years. I heard of a guy in Canada today that got
locked up for 20 years and got $10 mil. In the US you most likely get
lots more..
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