• Entitle-itis again

    From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Monday, June 13, 2016 18:17:42
    More of the "if its legal don;t worry about the ethics" from National: http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/ministers-used-taxpayer-funded-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-campaign/

    which identifies 25 times National Ministers used their ministerial
    cars in Northland during the by-electionn campaign - and this: http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/opinion/felix-marwick-govts-use-of-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-unethical/

    which points out that this is vastly more than they normally use the
    cars in Northland.

    As Marwick says:

    "Is it legal? Technically it probably is. Is it ethical? Probably not. Particularly if your party has previously taken a stand against
    taxpayer funded election campaigns.

    Something the National Party has done."

    Both the arrogance and the arranged corruption indicate that the Key
    government has had its time . . .

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  • From Fred@3:770/3 to All on Monday, June 13, 2016 18:33:27
    On 13/06/2016 6:17 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    More of the "if its legal don;t worry about the ethics" from National: http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/ministers-used-taxpayer-funded-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-campaign/

    which identifies 25 times National Ministers used their ministerial
    cars in Northland during the by-electionn campaign - and this: http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/opinion/felix-marwick-govts-use-of-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-unethical/

    which points out that this is vastly more than they normally use the
    cars in Northland.

    As Marwick says:

    "Is it legal? Technically it probably is. Is it ethical? Probably not. Particularly if your party has previously taken a stand against
    taxpayer funded election campaigns.

    Something the National Party has done."

    Both the arrogance and the arranged corruption indicate that the Key government has had its time . . .


    I've got the perfect solution for you Rich. Don't vote for them. Howzat eh!

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  • From Liberty@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Tuesday, June 14, 2016 07:10:08
    On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 18:17:42 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    More of the "if its legal don;t worry about the ethics" from National: >http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/ministers-used-taxpayer-funded-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-campaign/

    which identifies 25 times National Ministers used their ministerial
    cars in Northland during the by-electionn campaign - and this: >http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/opinion/felix-marwick-govts-use-of-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-unethical/

    which points out that this is vastly more than they normally use the
    cars in Northland.

    As Marwick says:

    "Is it legal? Technically it probably is. Is it ethical? Probably not. >Particularly if your party has previously taken a stand against
    taxpayer funded election campaigns.

    Something the National Party has done."

    Both the arrogance and the arranged corruption indicate that the Key >government has had its time . . .

    Rich you are being a total dork.
    It has been common practice for years by all parties.

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to Fred on Tuesday, June 14, 2016 08:14:12
    On 6/13/2016 6:33 PM, Fred wrote:
    On 13/06/2016 6:17 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    More of the "if its legal don;t worry about the ethics" from National:
    http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/ministers-used-taxpayer-funded-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-campaign/


    which identifies 25 times National Ministers used their ministerial
    cars in Northland during the by-electionn campaign - and this:
    http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/opinion/felix-marwick-govts-use-of-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-unethical/


    which points out that this is vastly more than they normally use the
    cars in Northland.

    As Marwick says:

    "Is it legal? Technically it probably is. Is it ethical? Probably not.
    Particularly if your party has previously taken a stand against
    taxpayer funded election campaigns.

    Something the National Party has done."

    Both the arrogance and the arranged corruption indicate that the Key
    government has had its time . . .


    I've got the perfect solution for you Rich. Don't vote for them. Howzat eh!

    Poor wee lamb is probably all tired out from the last Liebor led 'mass
    rally' about housing or refugees or cold houses or child poverty and
    hasn't collected its thoughts and read the latest polls

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Tuesday, June 14, 2016 16:29:16
    On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 07:10:08 +1200, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 18:17:42 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    More of the "if its legal don;t worry about the ethics" from National: >>http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/ministers-used-taxpayer-funded-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-campaign/

    which identifies 25 times National Ministers used their ministerial
    cars in Northland during the by-electionn campaign - and this: >>http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/opinion/felix-marwick-govts-use-of-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-unethical/

    which points out that this is vastly more than they normally use the
    cars in Northland.

    As Marwick says:

    "Is it legal? Technically it probably is. Is it ethical? Probably not. >>Particularly if your party has previously taken a stand against
    taxpayer funded election campaigns.

    Something the National Party has done."

    Both the arrogance and the arranged corruption indicate that the Key >>government has had its time . . .

    Rich you are being a total dork.
    It has been common practice for years by all parties.

    Do you have any evidence to support that, or is this just another
    attempt to distract from National's lack of any ethical standards?

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to Liberty on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 02:17:46
    Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 16:29:16 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 07:10:08 +1200, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 18:17:42 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>
    More of the "if its legal don;t worry about the ethics" from National: >>>>http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/ministers-used-taxpayer-funded-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-campaign/

    which identifies 25 times National Ministers used their ministerial >>>>cars in Northland during the by-electionn campaign - and this: >>>>http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/opinion/felix-marwick-govts-use-of-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-unethical/

    which points out that this is vastly more than they normally use the >>>>cars in Northland.

    As Marwick says:

    "Is it legal? Technically it probably is. Is it ethical? Probably not. >>>>Particularly if your party has previously taken a stand against >>>>taxpayer funded election campaigns.

    Something the National Party has done."

    Both the arrogance and the arranged corruption indicate that the Key >>>>government has had its time . . .

    Rich you are being a total dork.
    It has been common practice for years by all parties.

    Do you have any evidence to support that, or is this just another
    attempt to distract from National's lack of any ethical standards?

    During an election Clark came to town to give a speech to the
    bewildered in her state supplied car complete with flags.
    The deputy leader of the National party also came to town. To give and >informative speech.
    He was collected by a friend with the farm truck.
    Good on you for answering a stupid question, we all know that political parties have done this for decades - personally I don't care!
    Tony

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  • From Liberty@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 18:49:32
    On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 16:29:16 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 07:10:08 +1200, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 18:17:42 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>
    More of the "if its legal don;t worry about the ethics" from National: >>>http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/ministers-used-taxpayer-funded-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-campaign/

    which identifies 25 times National Ministers used their ministerial
    cars in Northland during the by-electionn campaign - and this: >>>http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/opinion/felix-marwick-govts-use-of-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-unethical/

    which points out that this is vastly more than they normally use the
    cars in Northland.

    As Marwick says:

    "Is it legal? Technically it probably is. Is it ethical? Probably not. >>>Particularly if your party has previously taken a stand against
    taxpayer funded election campaigns.

    Something the National Party has done."

    Both the arrogance and the arranged corruption indicate that the Key >>>government has had its time . . .

    Rich you are being a total dork.
    It has been common practice for years by all parties.

    Do you have any evidence to support that, or is this just another
    attempt to distract from National's lack of any ethical standards?

    During an election Clark came to town to give a speech to the bewildered
    in her state supplied car complete with flags.
    The deputy leader of the National party also came to town. To give and informative speech.
    He was collected by a friend with the farm truck.

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 23:28:23
    On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:49:32 +1200, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 16:29:16 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 07:10:08 +1200, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 18:17:42 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>
    More of the "if its legal don;t worry about the ethics" from National: >>>>http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/ministers-used-taxpayer-funded-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-campaign/

    which identifies 25 times National Ministers used their ministerial >>>>cars in Northland during the by-electionn campaign - and this: >>>>http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/opinion/felix-marwick-govts-use-of-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-unethical/

    which points out that this is vastly more than they normally use the >>>>cars in Northland.

    As Marwick says:

    "Is it legal? Technically it probably is. Is it ethical? Probably not. >>>>Particularly if your party has previously taken a stand against >>>>taxpayer funded election campaigns.

    Something the National Party has done."

    Both the arrogance and the arranged corruption indicate that the Key >>>>government has had its time . . .

    Rich you are being a total dork.
    It has been common practice for years by all parties.

    Do you have any evidence to support that, or is this just another
    attempt to distract from National's lack of any ethical standards?

    During an election Clark came to town to give a speech to the
    bewildered in her state supplied car complete with flags.
    The deputy leader of the National party also came to town. To give and informative speech.
    He was collected by a friend with the farm truck.

    The Prime Minister and Leder of the Opposition are able to use cars
    whenever they want. Try again, "Liberty

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  • From Liberty@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, June 16, 2016 00:06:35
    On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 02:17:46 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:


    .

    Rich you are being a total dork.
    It has been common practice for years by all parties.

    Do you have any evidence to support that, or is this just another
    attempt to distract from National's lack of any ethical standards?

    During an election Clark came to town to give a speech to the >>bewildered in her state supplied car complete with flags.
    The deputy leader of the National party also came to town. To give and >>informative speech.
    He was collected by a friend with the farm truck.
    Good on you for answering a stupid question, we all know that political parties
    have done this for decades - personally I don't care!
    Tony
    It is just more of Richs pedantic nitpicking.

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to dot nz on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 23:30:06
    On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 02:17:46 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 16:29:16 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>
    On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 07:10:08 +1200, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 18:17:42 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>
    More of the "if its legal don;t worry about the ethics" from National: >>>>>http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/ministers-used-taxpayer-funded-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-campaign/

    which identifies 25 times National Ministers used their ministerial >>>>>cars in Northland during the by-electionn campaign - and this: >>>>>http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/opinion/felix-marwick-govts-use-of-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-unethical/

    which points out that this is vastly more than they normally use the >>>>>cars in Northland.

    As Marwick says:

    "Is it legal? Technically it probably is. Is it ethical? Probably not. >>>>>Particularly if your party has previously taken a stand against >>>>>taxpayer funded election campaigns.

    Something the National Party has done."

    Both the arrogance and the arranged corruption indicate that the Key >>>>>government has had its time . . .

    Rich you are being a total dork.
    It has been common practice for years by all parties.

    Do you have any evidence to support that, or is this just another
    attempt to distract from National's lack of any ethical standards?

    During an election Clark came to town to give a speech to the >>bewildered in her state supplied car complete with flags.
    The deputy leader of the National party also came to town. To give and >>informative speech.
    He was collected by a friend with the farm truck.
    Good on you for answering a stupid question, we all know that political parties
    have done this for decades - personally I don't care!
    Tony

    Of course we do not know that political parties have done this for
    years. We do know that for years the Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition can use cars more widely than other MPs.

    But of course you don;t care, Tony - it wasn't Labour being unethical
    . . .

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  • From Liberty@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Thursday, June 16, 2016 00:21:32
    On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 23:28:23 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:



    Rich you are being a total dork.
    It has been common practice for years by all parties.

    Do you have any evidence to support that, or is this just another
    attempt to distract from National's lack of any ethical standards?

    During an election Clark came to town to give a speech to the bewildered in her state supplied car complete with flags.
    The deputy leader of the National party also came to town. To give and informative speech.
    He was collected by a friend with the farm truck.

    The Prime Minister and Leder of the Opposition are able to use cars
    whenever they want. Try again, "Liberty

    You are right Rich I did miss read your post.
    "Rich you are being a total dork"
    You want a cite? why
    most people would move on.

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 13:12:24
    On Wednesday, 15 June 2016 23:30:10 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 02:17:46 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 16:29:16 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>
    On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 07:10:08 +1200, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 18:17:42 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    More of the "if its legal don;t worry about the ethics" from National: >>>>>http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/ministers-used-taxpayer-funded-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-campaign/

    which identifies 25 times National Ministers used their ministerial >>>>>cars in Northland during the by-electionn campaign - and this: >>>>>http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/opinion/felix-marwick-govts-use-of-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-unethical/

    which points out that this is vastly more than they normally use the >>>>>cars in Northland.

    As Marwick says:

    "Is it legal? Technically it probably is. Is it ethical? Probably not. >>>>>Particularly if your party has previously taken a stand against >>>>>taxpayer funded election campaigns.

    Something the National Party has done."

    Both the arrogance and the arranged corruption indicate that the Key >>>>>government has had its time . . .

    Rich you are being a total dork.
    It has been common practice for years by all parties.

    Do you have any evidence to support that, or is this just another >>>attempt to distract from National's lack of any ethical standards?

    During an election Clark came to town to give a speech to the >>bewildered in her state supplied car complete with flags.
    The deputy leader of the National party also came to town. To give and >>informative speech.
    He was collected by a friend with the farm truck.
    Good on you for answering a stupid question, we all know that political
    parties
    have done this for decades - personally I don't care!
    Tony

    Of course we do not know that political parties have done this for
    years. We do know that for years the Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition can use cars more widely than other MPs.

    But of course you don;t care, Tony - it wasn't Labour being unethical
    . . .

    How "ethical" was Clark speeding at break-neck speed to catch a rugby game? And
    then letting her drivers take the rap?

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  • From Liberty@3:770/3 to JohnO on Thursday, June 16, 2016 08:21:51
    On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 13:12:24 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:




    "Is it legal? Technically it probably is. Is it ethical? Probably not. >> >>>>>Particularly if your party has previously taken a stand against
    taxpayer funded election campaigns.

    Something the National Party has done."

    Both the arrogance and the arranged corruption indicate that the Key
    government has had its time . . .

    Rich you are being a total dork.
    It has been common practice for years by all parties.

    Do you have any evidence to support that, or is this just another
    attempt to distract from National's lack of any ethical standards?

    During an election Clark came to town to give a speech to the
    bewildered in her state supplied car complete with flags.
    The deputy leader of the National party also came to town. To give and >> >>informative speech.
    He was collected by a friend with the farm truck.
    Good on you for answering a stupid question, we all know that political parties
    have done this for decades - personally I don't care!
    Tony

    Of course we do not know that political parties have done this for
    years. We do know that for years the Prime Minister and Leader of the
    Opposition can use cars more widely than other MPs.

    But of course you don;t care, Tony - it wasn't Labour being unethical
    . . .

    How "ethical" was Clark speeding at break-neck speed to catch a rugby game? And then letting her drivers take the rap?

    How "ethical" was a Labour MP useing slave labour

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 15:37:02
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 02:17:46 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 16:29:16 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>
    On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 07:10:08 +1200, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 18:17:42 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    More of the "if its legal don;t worry about the ethics" from National: >>>>>>http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/ministers-used-taxpayer-funded-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-campaign/

    which identifies 25 times National Ministers used their ministerial >>>>>>cars in Northland during the by-electionn campaign - and this: >>>>>>http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/opinion/felix-marwick-govts-use-of-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-unethical/

    which points out that this is vastly more than they normally use the >>>>>>cars in Northland.

    As Marwick says:

    "Is it legal? Technically it probably is. Is it ethical? Probably not. >>>>>>Particularly if your party has previously taken a stand against >>>>>>taxpayer funded election campaigns.

    Something the National Party has done."

    Both the arrogance and the arranged corruption indicate that the Key >>>>>>government has had its time . . .

    Rich you are being a total dork.
    It has been common practice for years by all parties.

    Do you have any evidence to support that, or is this just another >>>>attempt to distract from National's lack of any ethical standards?

    During an election Clark came to town to give a speech to the >>>bewildered in her state supplied car complete with flags.
    The deputy leader of the National party also came to town. To give and >>>informative speech.
    He was collected by a friend with the farm truck.
    Good on you for answering a stupid question, we all know that political >>parties
    have done this for decades - personally I don't care!
    Tony

    Of course we do not know that political parties have done this for
    years.
    Ah I see, you don't know, I can believe that! The rest of us do know.
    We do know that for years the Prime Minister and Leader of the
    Opposition can use cars more widely than other MPs.

    But of course you don;t care, Tony - it wasn't Labour being unethical
    Not this time, but almost every other day!
    Get a life Rich - once more you try to deny the undeniable!
    It's don't, not the stupidly lazy and non-English "don;t"

    Tony

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to Liberty on Thursday, June 16, 2016 21:41:01
    On 14/06/2016 7:10 a.m., Liberty wrote:
    On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 18:17:42 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    More of the "if its legal don;t worry about the ethics" from National:
    http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/ministers-used-taxpayer-funded-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-campaign/

    which identifies 25 times National Ministers used their ministerial
    cars in Northland during the by-electionn campaign - and this:
    http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/opinion/felix-marwick-govts-use-of-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-unethical/

    which points out that this is vastly more than they normally use the
    cars in Northland.

    As Marwick says:

    "Is it legal? Technically it probably is. Is it ethical? Probably not.
    Particularly if your party has previously taken a stand against
    taxpayer funded election campaigns.

    Something the National Party has done."

    Both the arrogance and the arranged corruption indicate that the Key
    government has had its time . . .

    Rich you are being a total dork.
    It has been common practice for years by all parties.


    Good grief Lib. Haven't you figured it yet? In Richie's little rose
    tinted world only Labour and the loopy left are entitled to use
    government supplied entitlements for dodgy practices. You know like the
    PM funds which Aunty Helen was quite happy to help herself to on behalf
    of the Labour partys election campaign :)

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, June 16, 2016 21:44:25
    On 15/06/2016 11:28 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:49:32 +1200, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 16:29:16 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>
    On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 07:10:08 +1200, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 18:17:42 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    More of the "if its legal don;t worry about the ethics" from National: >>>>> http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/ministers-used-taxpayer-funded-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-campaign/

    which identifies 25 times National Ministers used their ministerial
    cars in Northland during the by-electionn campaign - and this:
    http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/opinion/felix-marwick-govts-use-of-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-unethical/

    which points out that this is vastly more than they normally use the >>>>> cars in Northland.

    As Marwick says:

    "Is it legal? Technically it probably is. Is it ethical? Probably not. >>>>> Particularly if your party has previously taken a stand against
    taxpayer funded election campaigns.

    Something the National Party has done."

    Both the arrogance and the arranged corruption indicate that the Key >>>>> government has had its time . . .

    Rich you are being a total dork.
    It has been common practice for years by all parties.

    Do you have any evidence to support that, or is this just another
    attempt to distract from National's lack of any ethical standards?

    During an election Clark came to town to give a speech to the bewildered in her state supplied car complete with flags.
    The deputy leader of the National party also came to town. To give and informative speech.
    He was collected by a friend with the farm truck.

    The Prime Minister and Leder of the Opposition are able to use cars
    whenever they want. Try again, "Liberty


    So why do you have your tits in a tangle Rich? Can't help yourself
    because of your self perpetuating myth that Labours good and Nationals
    bad? Or just because your just plain to dumb to understand the real world.

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, June 16, 2016 21:36:51
    On 14/06/2016 8:14 a.m., george152 wrote:
    On 6/13/2016 6:33 PM, Fred wrote:
    On 13/06/2016 6:17 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    More of the "if its legal don;t worry about the ethics" from National:
    http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/ministers-used-taxpayer-funded-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-campaign/



    which identifies 25 times National Ministers used their ministerial
    cars in Northland during the by-electionn campaign - and this:
    http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/opinion/felix-marwick-govts-use-of-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-unethical/



    which points out that this is vastly more than they normally use the
    cars in Northland.

    As Marwick says:

    "Is it legal? Technically it probably is. Is it ethical? Probably not.
    Particularly if your party has previously taken a stand against
    taxpayer funded election campaigns.

    Something the National Party has done."

    Both the arrogance and the arranged corruption indicate that the Key
    government has had its time . . .


    I've got the perfect solution for you Rich. Don't vote for them.
    Howzat eh!

    Poor wee lamb is probably all tired out from the last Liebor led 'mass
    rally' about housing or refugees or cold houses or child poverty and
    hasn't collected its thoughts and read the latest polls

    FFS George. when did you start thinking Rich or the loopy left actually
    reads the polls? Thought you knew better than that :)

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Thursday, June 23, 2016 15:13:03
    "Rich80105" <rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:8ve2mbdic7ivkhmrgea4m78dmb52gk4mhl@4ax.com...
    On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 02:17:46 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 16:29:16 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:

    On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 07:10:08 +1200, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 18:17:42 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:

    More of the "if its legal don;t worry about the ethics" from National: >>>>>>http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/ministers-used-taxpayer-funded-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-campaign/

    which identifies 25 times National Ministers used their ministerial >>>>>>cars in Northland during the by-electionn campaign - and this: >>>>>>http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/opinion/felix-marwick-govts-use-of-crown-cars-during-northland-by-election-unethical/

    which points out that this is vastly more than they normally use the >>>>>>cars in Northland.

    As Marwick says:

    "Is it legal? Technically it probably is. Is it ethical? Probably not. >>>>>>Particularly if your party has previously taken a stand against >>>>>>taxpayer funded election campaigns.

    Something the National Party has done."

    Both the arrogance and the arranged corruption indicate that the Key >>>>>>government has had its time . . .

    Rich you are being a total dork.
    It has been common practice for years by all parties.

    Do you have any evidence to support that, or is this just another >>>>attempt to distract from National's lack of any ethical standards?

    During an election Clark came to town to give a speech to the >>>bewildered in her state supplied car complete with flags.
    The deputy leader of the National party also came to town. To give and >>>informative speech.
    He was collected by a friend with the farm truck.
    Good on you for answering a stupid question, we all know that political >>parties
    have done this for decades - personally I don't care!
    Tony

    Of course we do not know that political parties have done this for
    years. We do know that for years the Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition can use cars more widely than other MPs.


    Correct Rich (for a change) going back to before 1999 even.

    But of course you don;t care, Tony - it wasn't Labour being unethical
    . . .

    Wrong! Unlike you Rich, Tony and your many detractors have never claimed
    that National is perfect or doesn't use 'dirty politics' to advance their cause. But you keep your eyes tight shut about Labours shortcomings and keep chanting 'Labour good, National bad' as that's all your capable of.

    Pooh

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