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  • Time for the government to !!!!

    From Tony @3:770/3 to All on Friday, June 03, 2016 00:31:22
    I keep hearing more and more often that the government should do this or the government should do that. This has been a creeping trend for many years.
    One of the most incidious of the presumptuous are local councils - mine is one of them and so is Auckland!
    Why should the government bail the Auckland council out of its self inflicted housing problems. The toy train took precedence over land availability and the council are always asking government to help them - particularly when they have fouled their own nest.
    Appoint commissioners I say!
    Oh by the way Rich - this is nothing to do with politics so please control yourslef before you have an embarrassment!
    Tony

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to dot nz on Friday, June 03, 2016 23:08:14
    On Fri, 03 Jun 2016 00:31:22 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    I keep hearing more and more often that the government should do this or the >government should do that. This has been a creeping trend for many years.
    One of the most incidious of the presumptuous are local councils - mine is one >of them and so is Auckland!
    Why should the government bail the Auckland council out of its self inflicted >housing problems. The toy train took precedence over land availability and the >council are always asking government to help them - particularly when they have
    fouled their own nest.
    Appoint commissioners I say!
    Oh by the way Rich - this is nothing to do with politics so please control >yourslef before you have an embarrassment!
    Tony

    So a decision to sell state houses is not political?
    A decision to appoint commissioners is not political?
    A decision to fundadequate transport in an increasingly grid-locked
    city is not political?
    A desire to see appropriate infrastructure before large housing
    developments are added is not political?
    AS refusal by government to not fund highways and rail which is their responsibility is not political?

    Dream on, Tony

    And read this as an example of impartial comment from a journalist: http://pundit.co.nz/content/national-stuck-in-release-land-mantra

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Friday, June 03, 2016 21:20:43
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 03 Jun 2016 00:31:22 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    I keep hearing more and more often that the government should do this or the >>government should do that. This has been a creeping trend for many years. >>One of the most incidious of the presumptuous are local councils - mine is >>one
    of them and so is Auckland!
    Why should the government bail the Auckland council out of its self inflicted >>housing problems. The toy train took precedence over land availability and >>the
    council are always asking government to help them - particularly when they >>have
    fouled their own nest.
    Appoint commissioners I say!
    Oh by the way Rich - this is nothing to do with politics so please control >>yourslef before you have an embarrassment!
    Tony

    So a decision to sell state houses is not political?
    Irre;evant to my point but probably governance.
    A decision to appoint commissioners is not political?
    A decision to fundadequate transport in an increasingly grid-locked
    city is not political?
    A desire to see appropriate infrastructure before large housing
    developments are added is not political?
    AS refusal by government to not fund highways and rail which is their >responsibility is not political?

    Dream on, Tony
    You are the dreamer, believing that your precious party has a modicum of competence.

    And read this as an example of impartial comment from a journalist: >http://pundit.co.nz/content/national-stuck-in-release-land-mantra
    You have entirely missed the point of me saying it is not political, no doubt deliberately, I was simply stating that my post had nothing to do with politicis.
    The facts are clear - the Auckland infrastructure is abysmal and the council own that.
    The council, probably all councils, want as much independance as they can get and yet they want government to step in when things get tough - well that's OK and the government need to decide how to do that - commissioners are one of their options in this case.
    Now do you follow?

    Tony

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  • From Gordon@3:770/3 to All on Saturday, June 04, 2016 07:37:14
    On 2016-06-03, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:
    I keep hearing more and more often that the government should do this or the government should do that. This has been a creeping trend for many years.
    One of the most incidious of the presumptuous are local councils - mine is
    one
    of them and so is Auckland!
    Why should the government bail the Auckland council out of its self inflicted housing problems. The toy train took precedence over land availability and
    the
    council are always asking government to help them - particularly when they
    have
    fouled their own nest.
    Appoint commissioners I say!
    Oh by the way Rich - this is nothing to do with politics so please control yourslef before you have an embarrassment!

    So how come it has nothing to do with politics?

    Auckland Council and the Government are made up of politicans. Nothing but politics I would argue.

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