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  • USA CO2 output continues to decline

    From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Monday, May 30, 2016 12:46:53
    And it's not down to recession and it's not down to bullshit carbon taxes or credits.

    It's mainly down to fracking and the subsequently the use of natural gas instead of coal.

    Yet the dopey Greens continue to oppose fracking. Go figure.

    H/t DPF

    http://capx.co/external/co2-emissions-in-the-united-states-keep-falling/

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Tuesday, May 31, 2016 08:31:48
    On Mon, 30 May 2016 12:46:53 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    And it's not down to recession and it's not down to bullshit carbon taxes or credits.

    It's mainly down to fracking and the subsequently the use of natural gas instead of coal.

    Yet the dopey Greens continue to oppose fracking. Go figure.

    H/t DPF

    http://capx.co/external/co2-emissions-in-the-united-states-keep-falling/
    which said:
    Most of the reduction comes from burning less coal. According to the
    U.S. Energy Information Administration, changes in the national mix of electricity production—especially the shift toward cleaner-burning
    natural gas—accounted for 68 percent of the emissions reductions
    between 2005 and 2015.

    teh article below it is interesting as well https://www.technologyreview.com/s/601455/global-air-pollution-is-getting-worse-but-removing-it-could-worsen-climate-change/#

    See this for information about fracking: http://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/health/case_studies/hydrofracking_w.html

    A danger for fracking in New Zealand is that it would be likely to
    trigger earthquakes

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  • From Liberty@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Tuesday, May 31, 2016 09:23:36
    On Tue, 31 May 2016 08:31:48 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 30 May 2016 12:46:53 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    And it's not down to recession and it's not down to bullshit carbon taxes or credits.

    It's mainly down to fracking and the subsequently the use of natural gas instead of coal.

    Yet the dopey Greens continue to oppose fracking. Go figure.

    H/t DPF

    http://capx.co/external/co2-emissions-in-the-united-states-keep-falling/ >which said:
    Most of the reduction comes from burning less coal.

    The reason why less coal is being burned is because of fracking.

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Monday, May 30, 2016 14:38:23
    On Tuesday, 31 May 2016 08:31:51 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Mon, 30 May 2016 12:46:53 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    And it's not down to recession and it's not down to bullshit carbon taxes or
    credits.

    It's mainly down to fracking and the subsequently the use of natural gas
    instead of coal.

    Yet the dopey Greens continue to oppose fracking. Go figure.

    H/t DPF

    http://capx.co/external/co2-emissions-in-the-united-states-keep-falling/ which said:
    Most of the reduction comes from burning less coal.

    Yes Dickbot, that's what I said. DUH!

    Less coal because cheaper fracking sourced gas is available.

    According to the
    U.S. Energy Information Administration, changes in the national mix of electricity production—especially the shift toward cleaner-burning
    natural gas—accounted for 68 percent of the emissions reductions
    between 2005 and 2015.

    teh article below it is interesting as well https://www.technologyreview.com/s/601455/global-air-pollution-is-getting-worse-but-removing-it-could-worsen-climate-change/#

    See this for information about fracking: http://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/health/case_studies/hydrofracking_w.html

    A danger for fracking in New Zealand is that it would be likely to
    trigger earthquakes

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Monday, May 30, 2016 14:36:52
    On Tuesday, 31 May 2016 08:31:51 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Mon, 30 May 2016 12:46:53 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    And it's not down to recession and it's not down to bullshit carbon taxes or
    credits.

    It's mainly down to fracking and the subsequently the use of natural gas
    instead of coal.

    Yet the dopey Greens continue to oppose fracking. Go figure.

    H/t DPF

    http://capx.co/external/co2-emissions-in-the-united-states-keep-falling/ which said:
    Most of the reduction comes from burning less coal. According to the
    U.S. Energy Information Administration, changes in the national mix of electricity production—especially the shift toward cleaner-burning
    natural gas—accounted for 68 percent of the emissions reductions
    between 2005 and 2015.

    teh article below it is interesting as well https://www.technologyreview.com/s/601455/global-air-pollution-is-getting-worse-but-removing-it-could-worsen-climate-change/#

    See this for information about fracking: http://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/health/case_studies/hydrofracking_w.html

    A danger for fracking in New Zealand is that it would be likely to
    trigger earthquakes

    Bullshit. Fracking only produces micro tremors that don't cause damage. It is the practice of re-infecting the spoil that *might* produce a damaging earthquake.

    https://www2.usgs.gov/faq/categories/9833/3428

    Fracking has been used in New Zealand for over 23 years and no earthquake has been attributed to it.

    But anything has risk whether it's building a hydro dam, a nuclear plant, a wind turbine of whatever.

    However the Greens will oppose fracking as a kneejerk reaction regardless.

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to JohnO on Saturday, June 11, 2016 22:02:15
    On 31/05/2016 9:36 a.m., JohnO wrote:
    On Tuesday, 31 May 2016 08:31:51 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Mon, 30 May 2016 12:46:53 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    And it's not down to recession and it's not down to bullshit carbon taxes or credits.

    It's mainly down to fracking and the subsequently the use of natural gas instead of coal.

    Yet the dopey Greens continue to oppose fracking. Go figure.

    H/t DPF

    http://capx.co/external/co2-emissions-in-the-united-states-keep-falling/
    which said:
    Most of the reduction comes from burning less coal. According to the
    U.S. Energy Information Administration, changes in the national mix of
    electricity production—especially the shift toward cleaner-burning
    natural gas—accounted for 68 percent of the emissions reductions
    between 2005 and 2015.

    teh article below it is interesting as well
    https://www.technologyreview.com/s/601455/global-air-pollution-is-getting-worse-but-removing-it-could-worsen-climate-change/#

    See this for information about fracking:
    http://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/health/case_studies/hydrofracking_w.html

    A danger for fracking in New Zealand is that it would be likely to
    trigger earthquakes

    Bullshit. Fracking only produces micro tremors that don't cause damage. It is
    the practice of re-infecting the spoil that *might* produce a damaging earthquake.

    https://www2.usgs.gov/faq/categories/9833/3428

    Fracking has been used in New Zealand for over 23 years and no earthquake has
    been attributed to it.

    But anything has risk whether it's building a hydro dam, a nuclear plant, a
    wind turbine of whatever.

    However the Greens will oppose fracking as a kneejerk reaction regardless.


    Do stop confusing Rich with facts that go against the lies his glorious Labour/Green muppets keep pushing JohnO. It just confuses an already
    over confused loopy lefty.

    Pooh

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