• A big picture

    From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Saturday, April 30, 2016 09:04:51
    Its not quite our picture, but there are parallels:

    The Opinion Pages | OP-ED COLUMNIST

    Wrath of the Conned

    Paul Krugman

    APRIL 29, 2016

    Maybe we need a new cliché: It ainıt over until Carly Fiorina sings.
    Anyway, it really is over ‹ definitively on the Democratic side, with
    high probability on the Republican side. And the results couldnıt be
    more different.

    Think about where we were a year ago. At the time, Hillary Clinton and
    Jeb Bush were widely seen as the front-runners for their partiesı
    nods. If there was any dissent from the commentariat, it came from
    those suggesting that Mr. Bush might be supplanted by a fresher, but
    still establishment, face, like Marco Rubio.

    And now here we are. But why did Mrs. Clinton, despite the most
    negative media coverage of any candidate in this cycle ‹ yes, worse
    than Donald Trumpıs ‹ go the distance, while the G.O.P. establishment
    went down to humiliating defeat?

    Personalities surely played a role; say what you like (or dislike)
    about Mrs. Clinton, but sheıs resilient under pressure, a character
    trait notably lacking on the other side. But basically it comes down
    to fundamental differences between the parties and how they serve
    their supporters.

    Both parties make promises to their bases. But while the Democratic establishment more or less tries to make good on those promises, the
    Republican establishment has essentially been playing bait-and-switch
    for decades. And voters finally rebelled against the con.

    First, about the Democrats: Their party defines itself as the
    protector of the poor and the middle class, and especially of nonwhite
    voters. Does it fall short of fulfilling this mission much of the
    time? Are its leaders sometimes too close to big-money donors? Of
    course. Still, if you look at the record of the Obama years, you see
    real action on behalf of the partyıs goals.

    Above all, you have the Affordable Care Act, which has given about 20
    million Americans health insurance, with the gains biggest for the
    poor, minorities and low-wage workers. Thatıs what you call delivering
    for the base ‹ and itıs surely one reason nonwhite voters have
    overwhelmingly favored Mrs. Clinton over a challenger who sometimes
    seemed to dismiss that achievement.

    And this was paid for largely with higher taxes on the rich, with
    average tax rates on very high incomes rising by about six percentage
    points since 2008.

    Maybe you think Democrats could and should have done more, but what
    the party establishment says and what it does are at least roughly
    aligned.

    Things are very different among Republicans. Their party has
    historically won elections by appealing to racial enmity and cultural
    anxiety, but its actual policy agenda is dedicated to serving the
    interests of the 1 percent, above all through tax cuts for the rich ‹
    which even Republican voters donıt support, while they truly loathe
    elite ideas like privatizing Social Security and Medicare.

    What Donald Trump has been doing is telling the base that it can order
    à la carte. He has, in effect, been telling aggrieved white men that
    they can feed their anger without being forced to swallow supply-side economics, too. Yes, his actual policy proposals still involve huge
    tax cuts for the rich, but his supporters donıt know that ‹ and itıs
    possible that he doesnıt, either. Details arenıt his thing.

    Establishment Republicans have tried to counter his appeal by
    shouting, with growing hysteria, that he isnıt a true conservative.
    And theyıre right, at least as they define conservatism. But their own
    voters donıt care.

    If thereıs a puzzle here, itıs why this didnıt happen sooner. One
    possible explanation is the decadence of the G.O.P. establishment,
    which has become ingrown and lost touch. Apparatchiks who have spent
    their whole careers inside the bubble of right-wing think tanks and
    partisan media may suffer from the delusion that their ideology is
    actually popular with real people. And this has left them hapless in
    the face of a Trumpian challenge.

    Probably more important, however, is the collision between demography
    and Obama derangement. The elite knows that the party must broaden its
    appeal as the electorate grows more diverse ‹ in fact, that was the
    conclusion of the G.O.P.ıs 2013 post-mortem. But the base, its
    hostility amped up to 11 after seven years of an African-American
    president (who the establishment has done its best to demonize) is
    having none of it.

    The point, in any case, is that the divergent nomination outcomes of
    2016 arenıt an accident. The Democratic establishment has won because
    it has, however imperfectly, tried to serve its supporters. The
    Republican establishment has been routed because it has been playing a
    con game on its supporters all along, and theyıve finally had enough.

    And yes, Mr. Trump is playing a con game of his own, and theyıll
    eventually figure that out, too. But it wonıt happen right away, and
    in any case it wonıt help the party establishment. Sad!


    A version of this op-ed appears in print on April 29, 2016, on page
    A21 of the New York edition with the headline: Wrath of the Conned.

    İ The New York Times Company 2016

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Friday, May 06, 2016 14:24:03
    "Rich80105" <rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:6fi7ib1r7dedoirji4vfe60kcie5fj4520@4ax.com...
    Its not quite our picture, but there are parallels:

    The Opinion Pages | OP-ED COLUMNIST

    Wrath of the Conned

    Paul Krugman

    APRIL 29, 2016

    Maybe we need a new cliché: It ainıt over until Carly Fiorina sings.
    Anyway, it really is over < definitively on the Democratic side, with
    high probability on the Republican side. And the results couldnıt be
    more different.

    Think about where we were a year ago. At the time, Hillary Clinton and
    Jeb Bush were widely seen as the front-runners for their partiesı
    nods. If there was any dissent from the commentariat, it came from
    those suggesting that Mr. Bush might be supplanted by a fresher, but
    still establishment, face, like Marco Rubio.

    And now here we are. But why did Mrs. Clinton, despite the most
    negative media coverage of any candidate in this cycle < yes, worse
    than Donald Trumpıs < go the distance, while the G.O.P. establishment
    went down to humiliating defeat?

    Personalities surely played a role; say what you like (or dislike)
    about Mrs. Clinton, but sheıs resilient under pressure, a character
    trait notably lacking on the other side. But basically it comes down
    to fundamental differences between the parties and how they serve
    their supporters.

    Both parties make promises to their bases. But while the Democratic establishment more or less tries to make good on those promises, the Republican establishment has essentially been playing bait-and-switch
    for decades. And voters finally rebelled against the con.

    First, about the Democrats: Their party defines itself as the
    protector of the poor and the middle class, and especially of nonwhite voters. Does it fall short of fulfilling this mission much of the
    time? Are its leaders sometimes too close to big-money donors? Of
    course. Still, if you look at the record of the Obama years, you see
    real action on behalf of the partyıs goals.

    Above all, you have the Affordable Care Act, which has given about 20
    million Americans health insurance, with the gains biggest for the
    poor, minorities and low-wage workers. Thatıs what you call delivering
    for the base < and itıs surely one reason nonwhite voters have
    overwhelmingly favored Mrs. Clinton over a challenger who sometimes
    seemed to dismiss that achievement.

    And this was paid for largely with higher taxes on the rich, with
    average tax rates on very high incomes rising by about six percentage
    points since 2008.

    Maybe you think Democrats could and should have done more, but what
    the party establishment says and what it does are at least roughly
    aligned.

    Things are very different among Republicans. Their party has
    historically won elections by appealing to racial enmity and cultural anxiety, but its actual policy agenda is dedicated to serving the
    interests of the 1 percent, above all through tax cuts for the rich <
    which even Republican voters donıt support, while they truly loathe
    elite ideas like privatizing Social Security and Medicare.

    What Donald Trump has been doing is telling the base that it can order
    à la carte. He has, in effect, been telling aggrieved white men that
    they can feed their anger without being forced to swallow supply-side economics, too. Yes, his actual policy proposals still involve huge
    tax cuts for the rich, but his supporters donıt know that < and itıs
    possible that he doesnıt, either. Details arenıt his thing.

    Establishment Republicans have tried to counter his appeal by
    shouting, with growing hysteria, that he isnıt a true conservative.
    And theyıre right, at least as they define conservatism. But their own
    voters donıt care.

    If thereıs a puzzle here, itıs why this didnıt happen sooner. One
    possible explanation is the decadence of the G.O.P. establishment,
    which has become ingrown and lost touch. Apparatchiks who have spent
    their whole careers inside the bubble of right-wing think tanks and
    partisan media may suffer from the delusion that their ideology is
    actually popular with real people. And this has left them hapless in
    the face of a Trumpian challenge.

    Probably more important, however, is the collision between demography
    and Obama derangement. The elite knows that the party must broaden its
    appeal as the electorate grows more diverse < in fact, that was the conclusion of the G.O.P.ıs 2013 post-mortem. But the base, its
    hostility amped up to 11 after seven years of an African-American
    president (who the establishment has done its best to demonize) is
    having none of it.

    The point, in any case, is that the divergent nomination outcomes of
    2016 arenıt an accident. The Democratic establishment has won because
    it has, however imperfectly, tried to serve its supporters. The
    Republican establishment has been routed because it has been playing a
    con game on its supporters all along, and theyıve finally had enough.

    And yes, Mr. Trump is playing a con game of his own, and theyıll
    eventually figure that out, too. But it wonıt happen right away, and
    in any case it wonıt help the party establishment. Sad!


    A version of this op-ed appears in print on April 29, 2016, on page
    A21 of the New York edition with the headline: Wrath of the Conned.

    İ The New York Times Company 2016

    Looking at Labours standing in the polls the NZ voting public are fully
    aware of the big picture Rich. Luckily the NZ Labour party isn't in it at present:)

    Pooh

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