• Yet the dingbats at theStranded etc think Labour need to keep moving le

    From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Monday, April 11, 2016 18:07:58
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html

    Slow learners.

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 23:38:56
    On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:07:58 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html

    Slow learners.

    Why did the dingbats not give the equivalent graph for John Key?

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 23:58:44
    On 12/04/2016 11:38 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:07:58 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html

    Slow learners.

    Why did the dingbats not give the equivalent graph for John Key?


    So the incapable of learning troll doesn't get it JohnO. Poor Wee Wichie doesn't comprehend sarcasm along with anything else. Probably explains
    his blind fanatical faith in Liebor and the union stooge.

    Pooh

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 13:26:04
    On Tuesday, 12 April 2016 23:38:38 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:07:58 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html

    Slow learners.

    Why did the dingbats not give the equivalent graph for John Key?

    Why ask me? Ask your dingbat mates.

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 16:42:33
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:07:58 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html

    Slow learners.

    Why did the dingbats not give the equivalent graph for John Key?
    I think the answer is obvious!
    Tony

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  • From morrisseybreen@gmail.com@3:770/3 to JohnO on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 17:51:49
    On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 1:08:00 PM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html

    Slow learners.

    Lies, damned lies, ACT Party statements, National Party statements, Whaleoil, Kiwiblog.

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to morriss...@gmail.com on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 18:27:45
    On Wednesday, 13 April 2016 12:51:51 UTC+12, morriss...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 1:08:00 PM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html

    Slow learners.

    Lies, damned lies, ACT Party statements, National Party statements, Whaleoil,
    Kiwiblog.

    Hello Morrissey.

    I guess you'll need to add Colmar Brunton, Roy Morgan and anyone else without your world view to your list above?

    How's your boy Corbyn getting along these days?

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to morrisseybreen@gmail.com on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 15:06:02
    On 4/13/2016 12:51 PM, morrisseybreen@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 1:08:00 PM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html

    Slow learners.

    Lies, damned lies, ACT Party statements, National Party statements, Whaleoil,
    Kiwiblog.

    I see your angry little 7 percenter working his way into the 5 percent
    range.
    And that's the best news you're going to get today

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to dot nz on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 15:23:16
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 16:42:33 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:07:58 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>wrote:

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html

    Slow learners.

    Why did the dingbats not give the equivalent graph for John Key?
    I think the answer is obvious!
    Tony

    Indeed - I suspect that if asked, John Key would be 'relaxed' about
    his declining popularity.

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 22:41:42
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 16:42:33 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:07:58 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>wrote:

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html

    Slow learners.

    Why did the dingbats not give the equivalent graph for John Key?
    I think the answer is obvious!
    Tony

    Indeed - I suspect that if asked, John Key would be 'relaxed' about
    his declining popularity.
    I know you have a weird sense of numour but that is obtuse even for you.
    Tony

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to dot nz on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 16:11:30
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 22:41:42 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 16:42:33 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:07:58 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>>wrote:

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html

    Slow learners.

    Why did the dingbats not give the equivalent graph for John Key?
    I think the answer is obvious!
    Tony

    Indeed - I suspect that if asked, John Key would be 'relaxed' about
    his declining popularity.
    I know you have a weird sense of numour but that is obtuse even for you.
    Tony

    I'm not sure what you were not able to understand.

    JohnO gave a link to a National blogger who had published a graph of
    the polled popularity of Labour leaders. Farrar did not give the
    equivalent for the National party leader.

    You observed that the answer was obvious - although you did not
    explain why.

    I agreed with you - of course Farrar would not have called attention
    to the declining popularity of John Key!

    Does that help your understanding?

    I suspect that popularity of politicians largely reflects visibility -
    most New Zealand Prme Ministers are more popular on that measure than
    Leaders of the Opposition.

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to Tony on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 16:36:39
    On 4/13/2016 3:41 PM, Tony wrote:
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 16:42:33 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:07:58 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html >>>>>
    Slow learners.

    Why did the dingbats not give the equivalent graph for John Key?
    I think the answer is obvious!
    Tony

    Indeed - I suspect that if asked, John Key would be 'relaxed' about
    his declining popularity.
    I know you have a weird sense of numour but that is obtuse even for you.
    Tony

    Not so obtuse as mentally obese
    Key dropped 1%.
    Not much of a decline when measured against Mr 7%.
    Even Winnie got a higher liked mark...
    So when are they going to dump the angry little man and start producing
    policy and start to look like a possible government

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 21:34:23
    On Wednesday, 13 April 2016 16:11:07 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 22:41:42 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 16:42:33 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:07:58 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>>wrote:
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html >>>>>
    Slow learners.

    Why did the dingbats not give the equivalent graph for John Key?
    I think the answer is obvious!
    Tony

    Indeed - I suspect that if asked, John Key would be 'relaxed' about
    his declining popularity.
    I know you have a weird sense of numour but that is obtuse even for you. >Tony

    I'm not sure what you were not able to understand.

    JohnO gave a link to a National blogger who had published a graph of
    the polled popularity of Labour leaders. Farrar did not give the
    equivalent for the National party leader.

    You observed that the answer was obvious - although you did not
    explain why.

    I agreed with you - of course Farrar would not have called attention
    to the declining popularity of John Key!

    Does that help your understanding?

    I suspect that popularity of politicians largely reflects visibility -
    most New Zealand Prme Ministers are more popular on that measure than
    Leaders of the Opposition.

    Unless it's John Key vs PM Helen Clark, of course.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NZ_opinion_polls_2005-2008_-PPM.png

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 23:41:26
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 22:41:42 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 16:42:33 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:07:58 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>>>wrote:
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html >>>>>>
    Slow learners.

    Why did the dingbats not give the equivalent graph for John Key?
    I think the answer is obvious!
    Tony

    Indeed - I suspect that if asked, John Key would be 'relaxed' about
    his declining popularity.
    I know you have a weird sense of numour but that is obtuse even for you. >>Tony

    I'm not sure what you were not able to understand.
    I misunderstood nothing at all.

    JohnO gave a link to a National blogger who had published a graph of
    the polled popularity of Labour leaders. Farrar did not give the
    equivalent for the National party leader.
    So?

    You observed that the answer was obvious - although you did not
    explain why.
    Necause it was obvious but to humour you I will explain - because the popolarity of the Prime Minister is of zero cobsequence compared to the total lack of popularity for Labour and it's leaders. Got it?

    I agreed with you - of course Farrar would not have called attention
    to the declining popularity of John Key!

    Does that help your understanding?
    Your penchant for sarcasm is clear to all and it is still the lowest form of wit - or in your case half way there.

    I suspect that popularity of politicians largely reflects visibility -
    most New Zealand Prme Ministers are more popular on that measure than
    Leaders of the Opposition.
    Another straw for you to clutch at but again wihout managing to hold on.
    I know it bores you but why doesn't your party look at being a real opposition party instead of being whingers and criticising people instead of policies and performance?
    Like the American Republican party Labour is a bunch of people without a manifesto!

    Tony

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to gblack@hnpl.net on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 00:08:00
    george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
    On 4/13/2016 3:41 PM, Tony wrote:
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 16:42:33 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:07:58 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote:

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html >>>>>>
    Slow learners.

    Why did the dingbats not give the equivalent graph for John Key?
    I think the answer is obvious!
    Tony

    Indeed - I suspect that if asked, John Key would be 'relaxed' about
    his declining popularity.
    I know you have a weird sense of numour but that is obtuse even for you.
    Tony

    Not so obtuse as mentally obese
    Key dropped 1%.
    Not much of a decline when measured against Mr 7%.
    Even Winnie got a higher liked mark...
    So when are they going to dump the angry little man and start producing >policy and start to look like a possible government
    They need leadership first, and I hope that happens, before they can produce policy they need a leader with vison, stamina and intelligence. Can you name one?
    Tony

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to dot nz on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 18:19:43
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 23:41:26 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 22:41:42 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 16:42:33 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:07:58 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>>>>wrote:
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html >>>>>>>
    Slow learners.

    Why did the dingbats not give the equivalent graph for John Key?
    I think the answer is obvious!
    Tony

    Indeed - I suspect that if asked, John Key would be 'relaxed' about
    his declining popularity.
    I know you have a weird sense of numour but that is obtuse even for you. >>>Tony

    I'm not sure what you were not able to understand.
    I misunderstood nothing at all.
    I apologise. I clearly misunderstood what you meant by your use of the
    word "obtuse". With hindsight, were you indicating that while you
    understood my request, others may not?


    JohnO gave a link to a National blogger who had published a graph of
    the polled popularity of Labour leaders. Farrar did not give the
    equivalent for the National party leader.
    So?
    So it appears to be a partisan comment, repeated by a partisan poster
    to nz.general. Weren't you the person who called for more balanced
    posts?

    You observed that the answer was obvious - although you did not
    explain why.
    Necause it was obvious but to humour you I will explain - because the >popolarity of the Prime Minister is of zero cobsequence compared to the total >lack of popularity for Labour and it's leaders. Got it?
    Actually no - I regard the polling for popularity as of little
    practical use - except of course for spin by partisan comentators.
    Farrar of course has a vested interest in making polls of all sorts
    look more important than they really are.


    I agreed with you - of course Farrar would not have called attention
    to the declining popularity of John Key!

    Does that help your understanding?
    Your penchant for sarcasm is clear to all and it is still the lowest form of >wit - or in your case half way there.

    What sarcasm?


    I suspect that popularity of politicians largely reflects visibility -
    most New Zealand Prme Ministers are more popular on that measure than >>Leaders of the Opposition.

    Another straw for you to clutch at but again wihout managing to hold on.
    I don;t know why you deliberately try to be insulting - at best your
    comment is off-topic.

    I know it bores you but why doesn't your party look at being a real opposition >party instead of being whingers and criticising people instead of policies and >performance?
    Yet another unsupported assertion on your part.

    Like the American Republican party Labour is a bunch of people without a >manifesto!

    Tony

    You could of course compare Labour policies now with those of National
    at the same time before the 2008 election - or indeed before any
    election since . . .

    The American Republican party is of course having its own problems . .
    .

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 03:26:05
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 23:41:26 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 22:41:42 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 16:42:33 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>>dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:07:58 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>>>>>wrote:
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html >>>>>>>>
    Slow learners.

    Why did the dingbats not give the equivalent graph for John Key?
    I think the answer is obvious!
    Tony

    Indeed - I suspect that if asked, John Key would be 'relaxed' about >>>>>his declining popularity.
    I know you have a weird sense of numour but that is obtuse even for you. >>>>Tony

    I'm not sure what you were not able to understand.
    I misunderstood nothing at all.
    I apologise.
    Accepted
    I clearly misunderstood what you meant by your use of the
    word "obtuse". With hindsight, were you indicating that while you
    understood my request, others may not?
    No!


    JohnO gave a link to a National blogger who had published a graph of
    the polled popularity of Labour leaders. Farrar did not give the >>>equivalent for the National party leader.
    So?
    So it appears to be a partisan comment, repeated by a partisan poster
    to nz.general. Weren't you the person who called for more balanced
    posts?

    You observed that the answer was obvious - although you did not
    explain why.
    Necause it was obvious but to humour you I will explain - because the >>popolarity of the Prime Minister is of zero cobsequence compared to the total >>lack of popularity for Labour and it's leaders. Got it?
    Actually no - I regard the polling for popularity as of little
    practical use - except of course for spin by partisan comentators.
    Farrar of course has a vested interest in making polls of all sorts
    look more important than they really are.
    So do the Labour bloggers and so?


    I agreed with you - of course Farrar would not have called attention
    to the declining popularity of John Key!

    Does that help your understanding?
    Your penchant for sarcasm is clear to all and it is still the lowest form of >>wit - or in your case half way there.

    What sarcasm?
    Once more - the answer to that question is obvious!


    I suspect that popularity of politicians largely reflects visibility - >>>most New Zealand Prme Ministers are more popular on that measure than >>>Leaders of the Opposition.

    Another straw for you to clutch at but again wihout managing to hold on.
    I don;t know why you deliberately try to be insulting - at best your
    comment is off-topic.
    No insult, just a commentary - if I was insuling you it would be obvious and not at all subtle.

    I know it bores you but why doesn't your party look at being a real >>opposition
    party instead of being whingers and criticising people instead of policies >>and
    performance?
    Yet another unsupported assertion on your part.
    Nonsense - you are always criticisng the man and not the policy - read one of many manuals on good communication and try to undrstand why that is stupid!

    Like the American Republican party Labour is a bunch of people without a >>manifesto!

    Tony

    You could of course compare Labour policies now with those of National
    at the same time before the 2008 election - or indeed before any
    election since . . .\I could but there is no similarity.

    The American Republican party is of course having its own problems . .
    As is Labour!
    .

    Tony

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  • From Liberty@3:770/3 to JohnO on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 23:15:36
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 18:27:45 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, 13 April 2016 12:51:51 UTC+12, morriss...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 1:08:00 PM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html

    Slow learners.

    Lies, damned lies, ACT Party statements, National Party statements, Whaleoil, Kiwiblog.

    Hello Morrissey.

    I guess you'll need to add Colmar Brunton, Roy Morgan and anyone else without your world view to your list above?

    How's your boy Corbyn getting along these days?
    Anything like comrade little in the house today. Not very well. http://www.inthehouse.co.nz/video/42727

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to Liberty on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 15:10:07
    Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 18:27:45 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, 13 April 2016 12:51:51 UTC+12, morriss...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 1:08:00 PM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html

    Slow learners.

    Lies, damned lies, ACT Party statements, National Party statements, >>>Whaleoil, Kiwiblog.

    Hello Morrissey.

    I guess you'll need to add Colmar Brunton, Roy Morgan and anyone else without >>your world view to your list above?

    How's your boy Corbyn getting along these days?
    Anything like comrade little in the house today. Not very well. >http://www.inthehouse.co.nz/video/42727
    What an incredible diatribe aimed at a person and not one piece of policy or substance. Labour is tragically short of intelligent and capable people.
    Tony

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to dot nz on Thursday, April 14, 2016 08:32:59
    On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 15:10:07 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 18:27:45 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote: >>
    On Wednesday, 13 April 2016 12:51:51 UTC+12, morriss...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 1:08:00 PM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html >>>> >
    Slow learners.

    Lies, damned lies, ACT Party statements, National Party statements, >>>>Whaleoil, Kiwiblog.

    Hello Morrissey.

    I guess you'll need to add Colmar Brunton, Roy Morgan and anyone else without
    your world view to your list above?

    How's your boy Corbyn getting along these days?
    Anything like comrade little in the house today. Not very well. >>http://www.inthehouse.co.nz/video/42727
    What an incredible diatribe aimed at a person and not one piece of policy or >substance. Labour is tragically short of intelligent and capable people.
    Tony
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11543038

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 13:44:39
    On Thursday, 14 April 2016 08:32:33 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 15:10:07 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 18:27:45 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wednesday, 13 April 2016 12:51:51 UTC+12, morriss...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 1:08:00 PM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html >>>> >
    Slow learners.

    Lies, damned lies, ACT Party statements, National Party statements, >>>>Whaleoil, Kiwiblog.

    Hello Morrissey.

    I guess you'll need to add Colmar Brunton, Roy Morgan and anyone else
    without
    your world view to your list above?

    How's your boy Corbyn getting along these days?
    Anything like comrade little in the house today. Not very well. >>http://www.inthehouse.co.nz/video/42727
    What an incredible diatribe aimed at a person and not one piece of policy or >substance. Labour is tragically short of intelligent and capable people. >Tony
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11543038

    Another breathtaking and off-topic "look over there!" from Dickbot.

    Sad.

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, April 14, 2016 12:11:39
    "JohnO" <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote in message news:0e2c0229-8b5d-4f47-9505-ba70574a6d85@googlegroups.com...
    On Wednesday, 13 April 2016 16:11:07 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 22:41:42 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 16:42:33 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:07:58 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html

    Slow learners.

    Why did the dingbats not give the equivalent graph for John Key?
    I think the answer is obvious!
    Tony

    Indeed - I suspect that if asked, John Key would be 'relaxed' about
    his declining popularity.
    I know you have a weird sense of numour but that is obtuse even for you.
    Tony

    I'm not sure what you were not able to understand.

    JohnO gave a link to a National blogger who had published a graph of
    the polled popularity of Labour leaders. Farrar did not give the
    equivalent for the National party leader.

    You observed that the answer was obvious - although you did not
    explain why.

    I agreed with you - of course Farrar would not have called attention
    to the declining popularity of John Key!

    Does that help your understanding?

    I suspect that popularity of politicians largely reflects visibility -
    most New Zealand Prme Ministers are more popular on that measure than
    Leaders of the Opposition.

    Unless it's John Key vs PM Helen Clark, of course.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NZ_opinion_polls_2005-2008_-PPM.png

    If it took the polls up till today Rich would have to turn it upside down to show angry little Andy and his predecesors in a good light. Now if Rich had
    any concept of the stupidity of a union sstooge being made leader of the parliamentary wing of the Liebor party he might be classifiable as stupid marxist muppet. However Rich doesn't so he, like his glorious Liebor party continue to look like moronic marxist muppets in the eyes of the New Zealand voters.

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Thursday, April 14, 2016 12:06:38
    "Rich80105" <rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:trergb1t93c4114opvlc1o0ruoh5oumvl2@4ax.com...
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 16:42:33 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:07:58 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>wrote:

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html

    Slow learners.

    Why did the dingbats not give the equivalent graph for John Key?
    I think the answer is obvious!
    Tony

    Indeed - I suspect that if asked, John Key would be 'relaxed' about
    his declining popularity.



    Yup. A damn sight more relaxed than little Andy Rich. A friend of mine who works for police says theirs a claim Sndy asked for the loan of a knife
    proof vest last week. Guess the union stooge hopes it'll help him survive
    till he loses the next election :)

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Thursday, April 14, 2016 12:28:31
    "Rich80105" <rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:d7btgbpq5s85tfsf4528din0a7uq4fs313@4ax.com...
    On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 15:10:07 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 18:27:45 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>wrote:

    On Wednesday, 13 April 2016 12:51:51 UTC+12, morriss...@gmail.com >>>>wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 1:08:00 PM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html >>>>> >
    Slow learners.

    Lies, damned lies, ACT Party statements, National Party statements, >>>>>Whaleoil, Kiwiblog.

    Hello Morrissey.

    I guess you'll need to add Colmar Brunton, Roy Morgan and anyone else >>>>without
    your world view to your list above?

    How's your boy Corbyn getting along these days?
    Anything like comrade little in the house today. Not very well. >>>http://www.inthehouse.co.nz/video/42727
    What an incredible diatribe aimed at a person and not one piece of policy >>or
    substance. Labour is tragically short of intelligent and capable people. >>Tony
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11543038

    But Labour does. It's obvious from the lack of charges leveled after Labours 'female' brigade marched out of the house in protest at JK's claim.

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to gblack@hnpl.net on Thursday, April 14, 2016 12:24:54
    "george152" <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote in message news:nuSdnYdwebhFUZDKnZ2dnUU7-KHNnZ2d@giganews.com...
    On 4/13/2016 3:41 PM, Tony wrote:
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 16:42:33 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:07:58 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote:

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html >>>>>>
    Slow learners.

    Why did the dingbats not give the equivalent graph for John Key?
    I think the answer is obvious!
    Tony

    Indeed - I suspect that if asked, John Key would be 'relaxed' about
    his declining popularity.
    I know you have a weird sense of numour but that is obtuse even for you.
    Tony

    Not so obtuse as mentally obese
    Key dropped 1%.
    Not much of a decline when measured against Mr 7%.
    Even Winnie got a higher liked mark...
    So when are they going to dump the angry little man and start producing policy and start to look like a possible government


    2021 maybe. After National wins it fifth term :)

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, April 14, 2016 12:27:12
    "Tony" <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote in message news:part1of1.1.kW$lpzK3QopMng@ue.ph...
    Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 18:27:45 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>wrote:

    On Wednesday, 13 April 2016 12:51:51 UTC+12, morriss...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 1:08:00 PM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html >>>> >
    Slow learners.

    Lies, damned lies, ACT Party statements, National Party statements, >>>>Whaleoil, Kiwiblog.

    Hello Morrissey.

    I guess you'll need to add Colmar Brunton, Roy Morgan and anyone else >>>without
    your world view to your list above?

    How's your boy Corbyn getting along these days?
    Anything like comrade little in the house today. Not very well. >>http://www.inthehouse.co.nz/video/42727
    What an incredible diatribe aimed at a person and not one piece of policy
    or
    substance. Labour is tragically short of intelligent and capable people.
    Tony


    Andy seems to be getting advice from Rich. He fails to see his own faults in himself only in those who oppose him.

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Thursday, April 14, 2016 12:22:41
    "Rich80105" <rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:f1mrgbh33n82sps254tvi33tm7j0f83vrj@4ax.com...
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 23:41:26 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 22:41:42 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 16:42:33 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>>dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:07:58 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>>>>>wrote:
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html >>>>>>>>
    Slow learners.

    Why did the dingbats not give the equivalent graph for John Key?
    I think the answer is obvious!
    Tony

    Indeed - I suspect that if asked, John Key would be 'relaxed' about >>>>>his declining popularity.
    I know you have a weird sense of numour but that is obtuse even for you. >>>>Tony

    I'm not sure what you were not able to understand.
    I misunderstood nothing at all.
    I apologise. I clearly misunderstood what you meant by your use of the
    word "obtuse". With hindsight, were you indicating that while you
    understood my request, others may not?


    You clearly misunderstand everything that is posted refuting your weird
    claims Rich. It's because of your lack of comprehension skills and denial of reality.


    JohnO gave a link to a National blogger who had published a graph of
    the polled popularity of Labour leaders. Farrar did not give the >>>equivalent for the National party leader.
    So?
    So it appears to be a partisan comment, repeated by a partisan poster
    to nz.general. Weren't you the person who called for more balanced
    posts?

    You observed that the answer was obvious - although you did not
    explain why.
    Necause it was obvious but to humour you I will explain - because the >>popolarity of the Prime Minister is of zero cobsequence compared to the >>total
    lack of popularity for Labour and it's leaders. Got it?
    Actually no - I regard the polling for popularity as of little
    practical use - except of course for spin by partisan comentators.
    Farrar of course has a vested interest in making polls of all sorts
    look more important than they really are.


    Of all the shit you've posted in this thread this is the smelliest Rich! If little Andy gets above 10% you'll be crowing at how Labours going to stick
    it to
    National in 2017.


    I agreed with you - of course Farrar would not have called attention
    to the declining popularity of John Key!

    Does that help your understanding?
    Your penchant for sarcasm is clear to all and it is still the lowest form >>of
    wit - or in your case half way there.

    What sarcasm?


    Your quite right Rich. It wasn't sarcasm on your part. Just your normal comprehension fail.


    I suspect that popularity of politicians largely reflects visibility - >>>most New Zealand Prme Ministers are more popular on that measure than >>>Leaders of the Opposition.

    Another straw for you to clutch at but again wihout managing to hold on.
    I don;t know why you deliberately try to be insulting - at best your
    comment is off-topic.


    Truth still embarassing you I see Rich.

    I know it bores you but why doesn't your party look at being a real >>opposition
    party instead of being whingers and criticising people instead of policies >>and
    performance?
    Yet another unsupported assertion on your part.


    Supported by their actions in parliament and inability to come up with
    anything resembling policy Rich. Something only a noncomprehending marxist muppet like you would fail to be aware of.
    Like the American Republican party Labour is a bunch of people without a >>manifesto!

    Tony

    You could of course compare Labour policies now with those of National
    at the same time before the 2008 election - or indeed before any
    election since . . .


    Labour has no policys Rich. Only bumper stickers. Hell even Labours
    supporters in the msm are predicting a win for National in 2017. With
    continued wins untill Labour sorts it shit out and ditches the union stooge
    and the unions!

    The American Republican party is of course having its own problems . .
    .


    But nowhere near the magnitude of you and your glorious Liebor partyu Rich.

    Pooh

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 22:41:30
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 15:10:07 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 18:27:45 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote: >>>
    On Wednesday, 13 April 2016 12:51:51 UTC+12, morriss...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 1:08:00 PM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/04/houston_we_may_have_a_problem.html >>>>> >
    Slow learners.

    Lies, damned lies, ACT Party statements, National Party statements, >>>>>Whaleoil, Kiwiblog.

    Hello Morrissey.

    I guess you'll need to add Colmar Brunton, Roy Morgan and anyone else >>>>without
    your world view to your list above?

    How's your boy Corbyn getting along these days?
    Anything like comrade little in the house today. Not very well. >>>http://www.inthehouse.co.nz/video/42727
    What an incredible diatribe aimed at a person and not one piece of policy or >>substance. Labour is tragically short of intelligent and capable people. >>Tony
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11543038
    Your point is?
    Tony

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