• Re: Angry little Andy can't shake his union thug roots

    From JohnO@3:770/3 to JohnO on Sunday, April 03, 2016 13:08:27
    On Monday, 4 April 2016 08:05:43 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    He has followed up his rather violent sounding threat to "stiff-arm" the
    banks with "I stand by the stance I took, which is to get very heavy-handed with the banks".

    The fool just doesn't learn, does he?

    Loved this bit:

    "On Q+A, the Labour leader wouldn't be drawn on whether his position was pre-planned policy or off-the-cuff"

    Well, if it was pre-planned he would have said so. It's obviously off the cuff and it is so stupid even the Greens have dismissed it.

    http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/little-wants-stiff-arm-banks-ck-187030

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Sunday, April 03, 2016 13:05:42
    He has followed up his rather violent sounding threat to "stiff-arm" the banks with "I stand by the stance I took, which is to get very heavy-handed with the banks".

    The fool just doesn't learn, does he?

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Monday, April 04, 2016 08:09:29
    On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 13:08:27 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Monday, 4 April 2016 08:05:43 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    He has followed up his rather violent sounding threat to "stiff-arm" the banks with "I stand by the stance I took, which is to get very heavy-handed with the banks".

    The fool just doesn't learn, does he?

    Loved this bit:

    "On Q+A, the Labour leader wouldn't be drawn on whether his position was pre-planned policy or off-the-cuff"

    Well, if it was pre-planned he would have said so. It's obviously off the cuff
    and it is so stupid even the Greens have dismissed it.

    http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/little-wants-stiff-arm-banks-ck-187030


    Certainly there is a need for some actoin; the most obvious is to
    provide some real competition, but National prefer to see the banks
    sending high profits to their Australian owners both when interest
    rates are rising and when they are falling . . . Labour introduced a
    vehicle for providing competition - Kiwibank - but National have
    carefully required that bank to put profits ahead of growing market
    share to ensure that they do not rock the cosy boat - after all the
    steadily increasing government debt wuld only be worse if they didn't
    gouge profits where they can , , ,


    National just hates real competition - why are you against it JohnO?

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  • From Allistar@3:770/3 to Liberty on Monday, April 04, 2016 12:04:01
    Liberty wrote:

    On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 08:09:29 +1000, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:



    http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/little-wants-stiff-arm-banks-ck-187030


    Certainly there is a need for some actoin; the most obvious is to
    provide some real competition, but National prefer to see the banks
    sending high profits to their Australian owners both when interest
    rates are rising and when they are falling . . . Labour introduced a >>vehicle for providing competition - Kiwibank - but National have
    carefully required that bank to put profits ahead of growing market
    share to ensure that they do not rock the cosy boat - after all the >>steadily increasing government debt wuld only be worse if they didn't >>gouge profits where they can , , ,


    National just hates real competition - why are you against it JohnO?

    You do post some shit at time Rich.
    Interest rates are very low.
    Kiwi bank should be sold off.
    There is no need for a government owned bank.

    Agreed. A commercial operation like a bank should not be funded through compulsory payments from taxpayers.
    --
    "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."
    creates the incentive to minimize your abilities and maximize your needs.

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  • From Liberty@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Monday, April 04, 2016 11:30:06
    On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 08:09:29 +1000, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:



    http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/little-wants-stiff-arm-banks-ck-187030


    Certainly there is a need for some actoin; the most obvious is to
    provide some real competition, but National prefer to see the banks
    sending high profits to their Australian owners both when interest
    rates are rising and when they are falling . . . Labour introduced a
    vehicle for providing competition - Kiwibank - but National have
    carefully required that bank to put profits ahead of growing market
    share to ensure that they do not rock the cosy boat - after all the
    steadily increasing government debt wuld only be worse if they didn't
    gouge profits where they can , , ,


    National just hates real competition - why are you against it JohnO?

    You do post some shit at time Rich.
    Interest rates are very low.
    Kiwi bank should be sold off.
    There is no need for a government owned bank.

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  • From Fred@3:770/3 to All on Monday, April 04, 2016 12:18:21
    On 4/04/2016 10:09 a.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 13:08:27 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Monday, 4 April 2016 08:05:43 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    He has followed up his rather violent sounding threat to "stiff-arm" the banks with "I stand by the stance I took, which is to get very heavy-handed with the banks".

    The fool just doesn't learn, does he?

    Loved this bit:

    "On Q+A, the Labour leader wouldn't be drawn on whether his position was pre-planned policy or off-the-cuff"

    Well, if it was pre-planned he would have said so. It's obviously off the cuff and it is so stupid even the Greens have dismissed it.

    http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/little-wants-stiff-arm-banks-ck-187030


    Certainly there is a need for some actoin; the most obvious is to
    provide some real competition, but National prefer to see the banks
    sending high profits to their Australian owners both when interest
    rates are rising and when they are falling . . . Labour introduced a
    vehicle for providing competition - Kiwibank - but National have
    carefully required that bank to put profits ahead of growing market
    share to ensure that they do not rock the cosy boat - after all the
    steadily increasing government debt wuld only be worse if they didn't
    gouge profits where they can , , ,


    National just hates real competition - why are you against it JohnO?

    So you'd be quite happy to see intervention that would drop mortgage
    rates and raise property prices? Wheeler wouldn't. The object for him
    was to lower the $, and hope like hell it didn't fire up the property
    market.

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to As I on Sunday, April 03, 2016 17:03:50
    On Monday, 4 April 2016 10:09:33 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 13:08:27 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Monday, 4 April 2016 08:05:43 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    He has followed up his rather violent sounding threat to "stiff-arm" the
    banks with "I stand by the stance I took, which is to get very heavy-handed with the banks".

    The fool just doesn't learn, does he?

    Loved this bit:

    "On Q+A, the Labour leader wouldn't be drawn on whether his position was
    pre-planned policy or off-the-cuff"

    Well, if it was pre-planned he would have said so. It's obviously off the
    cuff and it is so stupid even the Greens have dismissed it.

    http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/little-wants-stiff-arm-banks-ck-187030


    Certainly there is a need for some actoin;

    No, there's no need for the government to intervene. Anybody is free to move their banking to Kiwibank, or TSB, or SBS etc.

    the most obvious is to
    provide some real competition,

    As I said, there's plenty of competition.

    but National prefer to see the banks
    sending high profits to their Australian owners both when interest

    What bullshit. What incentive is there National to prefer this? You are transparently making shit up, Dickbot. As usual.

    rates are rising and when they are falling . . . Labour introduced a
    vehicle for providing competition - Kiwibank - but National have
    carefully required that bank to put profits ahead of growing market

    National have run KB the same as Labour. Stop lying.

    share to ensure that they do not rock the cosy boat - after all the
    steadily increasing government debt wuld only be worse if they didn't
    gouge profits where they can , , ,


    National just hates real competition

    What a load of rubbish. You have shown nothing of the sort. There's plenty of competition. It is insular Labour who can be *shown* to be anti competition. They're the ones against the TPP. They're the ones who want to intervene instead of letting the
    market and *free* enterprise compete.

    - why are you against it JohnO?

    Why are you such a lying little shit, Dickbot?

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Sunday, April 03, 2016 19:49:57
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 13:08:27 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Monday, 4 April 2016 08:05:43 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    He has followed up his rather violent sounding threat to "stiff-arm" the >>>banks with "I stand by the stance I took, which is to get very heavy-handed >>>with the banks".

    The fool just doesn't learn, does he?

    Loved this bit:

    "On Q+A, the Labour leader wouldn't be drawn on whether his position was >>pre-planned policy or off-the-cuff"

    Well, if it was pre-planned he would have said so. It's obviously off the >>cuff and it is so stupid even the Greens have dismissed it.

    http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/little-wants-stiff-arm-banks-ck-187030


    Certainly there is a need for some actoin; the most obvious is to
    provide some real competition, but National prefer to see the banks
    sending high profits to their Australian owners both when interest
    rates are rising and when they are falling
    What? Why would they want that?
    . . . Labour introduced a
    vehicle for providing competition - Kiwibank
    What again? Kiwibank is nowhere near big enough to do more than provide a distraction for politicians; they no more influrncr the banking market than you influence this news group! Indeed all three NZ owned banks together are of no concern to the overseas banks. Whatever the reason Labour started Kiwibank it was not to introduce competition unless Labour were incompetent even back then!
    - but National have
    carefully required that bank to put profits ahead of growing market
    share to ensure that they do not rock the cosy boat
    That has to be the most idiotic thing you have ever posted here (or anywhere?) there can be no cite for that - just supposition and desperation.
    - after all the
    steadily increasing government debt wuld only be worse if they didn't
    gouge profits where they can , , ,


    National just hates real competition
    National are slightly right of centre and rely on business support and business loves competition. Duh!
    - why are you against it JohnO?

    Tony

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  • From Anymouse@3:770/3 to All on Monday, April 04, 2016 13:28:59
    Rich80105 wrote:

    <snip>


    National just hates real competition

    What an unbelievably stupid assertion!

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to Anymouse on Monday, April 04, 2016 14:24:01
    On 4/4/2016 1:28 PM, Anymouse wrote:
    Rich80105 wrote:

    <snip>


    National just hates real competition

    What an unbelievably stupid assertion!

    Only explanation is its rich and he doesn't do truth

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  • From -Newsman-@3:770/3 to All on Monday, April 04, 2016 15:37:56
    In article <ndsbn1$kdl$1@dont-email.me>, dryrot@hotmail.com says...

    On 4/04/2016 10:09 a.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 13:08:27 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Monday, 4 April 2016 08:05:43 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    He has followed up his rather violent sounding threat to "stiff-arm" the
    banks with "I stand by the stance I took, which is to get very heavy-handed with the banks".

    The fool just doesn't learn, does he?

    Loved this bit:

    "On Q+A, the Labour leader wouldn't be drawn on whether his position was
    pre-planned policy or off-the-cuff"

    Well, if it was pre-planned he would have said so. It's obviously off the
    cuff and it is so stupid even the Greens have dismissed it.

    http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/little-wants-stiff-arm-banks-ck-187030


    Certainly there is a need for some actoin; the most obvious is to
    provide some real competition, but National prefer to see the banks
    sending high profits to their Australian owners both when interest
    rates are rising and when they are falling . . . Labour introduced a vehicle for providing competition - Kiwibank - but National have
    carefully required that bank to put profits ahead of growing market
    share to ensure that they do not rock the cosy boat - after all the steadily increasing government debt wuld only be worse if they didn't gouge profits where they can , , ,


    National just hates real competition - why are you against it JohnO?

    So you'd be quite happy to see intervention that would drop mortgage
    rates and raise property prices? Wheeler wouldn't. The object for him
    was to lower the $, and hope like hell it didn't fire up the property
    market.

    So, what has actually happened since Wheeler's last OCR reduction?
    Here's what:

    http://tinyurl.com/jpsa8kf

    Meanwhile, as Europe's subsidised farmers fire up their subsidised
    milking parlours, here's how NZ's life-blood commodity is looking just
    now:

    http://tinyurl.com/h3n83jk

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to -Newsman- on Monday, April 04, 2016 16:32:11
    On 4/4/2016 3:37 PM, -Newsman- wrote:
    In article <ndsbn1$kdl$1@dont-email.me>, dryrot@hotmail.com says...

    On 4/04/2016 10:09 a.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 13:08:27 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Monday, 4 April 2016 08:05:43 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    He has followed up his rather violent sounding threat to "stiff-arm" the banks with "I stand by the stance I took, which is to get very heavy-handed with the banks".

    The fool just doesn't learn, does he?

    Loved this bit:

    "On Q+A, the Labour leader wouldn't be drawn on whether his position was pre-planned policy or off-the-cuff"

    Well, if it was pre-planned he would have said so. It's obviously off the cuff and it is so stupid even the Greens have dismissed it.

    http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/little-wants-stiff-arm-banks-ck-187030


    Certainly there is a need for some actoin; the most obvious is to
    provide some real competition, but National prefer to see the banks
    sending high profits to their Australian owners both when interest
    rates are rising and when they are falling . . . Labour introduced a
    vehicle for providing competition - Kiwibank - but National have
    carefully required that bank to put profits ahead of growing market
    share to ensure that they do not rock the cosy boat - after all the
    steadily increasing government debt wuld only be worse if they didn't
    gouge profits where they can , , ,


    National just hates real competition - why are you against it JohnO?

    So you'd be quite happy to see intervention that would drop mortgage
    rates and raise property prices? Wheeler wouldn't. The object for him
    was to lower the $, and hope like hell it didn't fire up the property
    market.

    So, what has actually happened since Wheeler's last OCR reduction?
    Here's what:

    http://tinyurl.com/jpsa8kf

    Meanwhile, as Europe's subsidised farmers fire up their subsidised
    milking parlours, here's how NZ's life-blood commodity is looking just
    now:

    Tourism is doing very well thank you for asking

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to george on Sunday, April 03, 2016 23:22:48
    On Monday, 4 April 2016 16:32:10 UTC+12, george wrote:
    On 4/4/2016 3:37 PM, -Newsman- wrote:
    In article <ndsbn1$kdl$1@dont-email.me>, dryrot@hotmail.com says...

    On 4/04/2016 10:09 a.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 13:08:27 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Monday, 4 April 2016 08:05:43 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    He has followed up his rather violent sounding threat to "stiff-arm"
    the banks with "I stand by the stance I took, which is to get very heavy-handed
    with the banks".

    The fool just doesn't learn, does he?

    Loved this bit:

    "On Q+A, the Labour leader wouldn't be drawn on whether his position was
    pre-planned policy or off-the-cuff"

    Well, if it was pre-planned he would have said so. It's obviously off
    the cuff and it is so stupid even the Greens have dismissed it.

    http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/little-wants-stiff-arm-banks-ck-187030


    Certainly there is a need for some actoin; the most obvious is to
    provide some real competition, but National prefer to see the banks
    sending high profits to their Australian owners both when interest
    rates are rising and when they are falling . . . Labour introduced a
    vehicle for providing competition - Kiwibank - but National have
    carefully required that bank to put profits ahead of growing market
    share to ensure that they do not rock the cosy boat - after all the
    steadily increasing government debt wuld only be worse if they didn't >>> gouge profits where they can , , ,


    National just hates real competition - why are you against it JohnO?

    So you'd be quite happy to see intervention that would drop mortgage
    rates and raise property prices? Wheeler wouldn't. The object for him
    was to lower the $, and hope like hell it didn't fire up the property
    market.

    So, what has actually happened since Wheeler's last OCR reduction?
    Here's what:

    http://tinyurl.com/jpsa8kf

    Meanwhile, as Europe's subsidised farmers fire up their subsidised
    milking parlours, here's how NZ's life-blood commodity is looking just
    now:

    Tourism is doing very well thank you for asking

    As beef and lamb, wine and education and all sorts of manufacturing.

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Monday, April 04, 2016 19:10:57
    On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 12:04:01 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
    wrote:

    Liberty wrote:

    On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 08:09:29 +1000, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:



    http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/little-wants-stiff-arm-banks-ck-187030


    Certainly there is a need for some actoin; the most obvious is to
    provide some real competition, but National prefer to see the banks >>>sending high profits to their Australian owners both when interest
    rates are rising and when they are falling . . . Labour introduced a >>>vehicle for providing competition - Kiwibank - but National have >>>carefully required that bank to put profits ahead of growing market
    share to ensure that they do not rock the cosy boat - after all the >>>steadily increasing government debt wuld only be worse if they didn't >>>gouge profits where they can , , ,


    National just hates real competition - why are you against it JohnO?

    You do post some shit at time Rich.
    Interest rates are very low.
    Kiwi bank should be sold off.
    There is no need for a government owned bank.

    Agreed. A commercial operation like a bank should not be funded through >compulsory payments from taxpayers.

    where did you get that idea from, Allistar? I certainly didn't suggest
    any funding of a bank - investment is a very different matter

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  • From geopelia@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 01:09:32
    "Liberty" wrote in message
    news:lr93gbhu1k04v6hhqjgiecuui4d57lvidp@4ax.com...

    On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 08:09:29 +1000, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:



    http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/little-wants-stiff-arm-banks-ck-187030


    Certainly there is a need for some actoin; the most obvious is to
    provide some real competition, but National prefer to see the banks
    sending high profits to their Australian owners both when interest
    rates are rising and when they are falling . . . Labour introduced a
    vehicle for providing competition - Kiwibank - but National have
    carefully required that bank to put profits ahead of growing market
    share to ensure that they do not rock the cosy boat - after all the
    steadily increasing government debt wuld only be worse if they didn't
    gouge profits where they can , , ,


    National just hates real competition - why are you against it JohnO?

    You do post some shit at time Rich.
    Interest rates are very low.
    Kiwi bank should be sold off.
    There is no need for a government owned bank.

    .............

    Interest rates are now so low that it is no longer worth keeping money in a bank, except for security from burglars.
    Perhaps Bonus Bonds are the best idea, with the chance of a prize.

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  • From Allistar@3:770/3 to All on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 08:56:26
    Rich80105 wrote:

    On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 12:04:01 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
    wrote:

    Liberty wrote:

    On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 08:09:29 +1000, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:



    http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/little-wants-stiff-arm-banks-ck-187030


    Certainly there is a need for some actoin; the most obvious is to >>>>provide some real competition, but National prefer to see the banks >>>>sending high profits to their Australian owners both when interest >>>>rates are rising and when they are falling . . . Labour introduced a >>>>vehicle for providing competition - Kiwibank - but National have >>>>carefully required that bank to put profits ahead of growing market >>>>share to ensure that they do not rock the cosy boat - after all the >>>>steadily increasing government debt wuld only be worse if they didn't >>>>gouge profits where they can , , ,


    National just hates real competition - why are you against it JohnO?

    You do post some shit at time Rich.
    Interest rates are very low.
    Kiwi bank should be sold off.
    There is no need for a government owned bank.

    Agreed. A commercial operation like a bank should not be funded through >>compulsory payments from taxpayers.

    where did you get that idea from, Allistar?

    The idea that compulsory confiscation of property from people is unethical?
    I got that idea from my own morality and ethics.

    I certainly didn't suggest
    any funding of a bank - investment is a very different matter

    Investment is a form of funding.

    Where do you suggest the government get this "investment" capital from if
    not taxpayers?
    --
    "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."
    creates the incentive to minimize your abilities and maximize your needs.

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  • From Anymouse@3:770/3 to All on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 09:39:10
    Rich80105 wrote:

    On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 12:04:01 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
    wrote:

    Liberty wrote:

    On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 08:09:29 +1000, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:



    http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/little-wants-stiff-arm-banks-ck-187030


    Certainly there is a need for some actoin; the most obvious is to >>>>provide some real competition, but National prefer to see the banks >>>>sending high profits to their Australian owners both when interest >>>>rates are rising and when they are falling . . . Labour introduced a >>>>vehicle for providing competition - Kiwibank - but National have >>>>carefully required that bank to put profits ahead of growing market >>>>share to ensure that they do not rock the cosy boat - after all the >>>>steadily increasing government debt wuld only be worse if they didn't >>>>gouge profits where they can , , ,


    National just hates real competition - why are you against it JohnO?

    You do post some shit at time Rich.
    Interest rates are very low.
    Kiwi bank should be sold off.
    There is no need for a government owned bank.

    Agreed. A commercial operation like a bank should not be funded through >>compulsory payments from taxpayers.

    where did you get that idea from, Allistar? I certainly didn't suggest
    any funding of a bank - investment is a very different matter

    More silliness from you. The only difference between funding and investment
    is that they are the two sides of the same coin.

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 10:30:21
    On 4/04/2016 10:09 a.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 13:08:27 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Monday, 4 April 2016 08:05:43 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    He has followed up his rather violent sounding threat to "stiff-arm" the banks with "I stand by the stance I took, which is to get very heavy-handed with the banks".

    The fool just doesn't learn, does he?

    Loved this bit:

    "On Q+A, the Labour leader wouldn't be drawn on whether his position was pre-planned policy or off-the-cuff"

    Well, if it was pre-planned he would have said so. It's obviously off the cuff and it is so stupid even the Greens have dismissed it.

    http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/little-wants-stiff-arm-banks-ck-187030


    Certainly there is a need for some actoin; the most obvious is to
    provide some real competition, but National prefer to see the banks
    sending high profits to their Australian owners both when interest
    rates are rising and when they are falling . . . Labour introduced a
    vehicle for providing competition - Kiwibank - but National have
    carefully required that bank to put profits ahead of growing market
    share to ensure that they do not rock the cosy boat - after all the
    steadily increasing government debt wuld only be worse if they didn't
    gouge profits where they can , , ,


    National just hates real competition - why are you against it JohnO?


    No Rich. The government is expecting the same from KiwiBank as the
    shareholders of the other banks. A return on investment.
    Once again you ignore or have forgotten that KiwiBank was a bribe to Jim Anderton to keep Labour in power for another term.

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 19:57:12
    "Rich80105" <rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:0qb4gbl9h5ifjsktt697h0v9jpelifpkko@4ax.com...
    On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 12:04:01 +1200, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
    wrote:

    Liberty wrote:

    On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 08:09:29 +1000, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:



    http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/little-wants-stiff-arm-banks-ck-187030


    Certainly there is a need for some actoin; the most obvious is to >>>>provide some real competition, but National prefer to see the banks >>>>sending high profits to their Australian owners both when interest >>>>rates are rising and when they are falling . . . Labour introduced a >>>>vehicle for providing competition - Kiwibank - but National have >>>>carefully required that bank to put profits ahead of growing market >>>>share to ensure that they do not rock the cosy boat - after all the >>>>steadily increasing government debt wuld only be worse if they didn't >>>>gouge profits where they can , , ,


    National just hates real competition - why are you against it JohnO?

    You do post some shit at time Rich.
    Interest rates are very low.
    Kiwi bank should be sold off.
    There is no need for a government owned bank.

    Agreed. A commercial operation like a bank should not be funded through >>compulsory payments from taxpayers.

    where did you get that idea from, Allistar? I certainly didn't suggest
    any funding of a bank - investment is a very different matter

    You did however find it okay that the taxpayer gets no return for it's investment some time ago Rich. You also went into a tirade when National
    told them and NZPost they wern't getting any more handouts about the same
    time.

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 20:04:12
    "JohnO" <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote in message news:6c1912fe-4558-45fe-9eaf-3ff7b32ff140@googlegroups.com...
    On Monday, 4 April 2016 08:05:43 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    He has followed up his rather violent sounding threat to "stiff-arm" the
    banks with "I stand by the stance I took, which is to get very
    heavy-handed with the banks".

    The fool just doesn't learn, does he?

    Loved this bit:

    "On Q+A, the Labour leader wouldn't be drawn on whether his position was pre-planned policy or off-the-cuff"

    Well, if it was pre-planned he would have said so. It's obviously off the cuff and it is so stupid even the Greens have dismissed it.

    http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/little-wants-stiff-arm-banks-ck-187030

    Caught a repeat of some news program on Sunday night with an avid admirer of little Andy, a political scientists and some other nameless bod. The only person who had anything positive to say was the women who admitted to being
    a friend of little Andy. The political surprised the shit out of me with his scathing comments of Little's incompetence.

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to Anymouse on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 20:00:06
    "Anymouse" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message news:ndsfqo$uf3$1@dont-email.me...
    Rich80105 wrote:

    <snip>


    National just hates real competition

    What an unbelievably stupid assertion!


    It's Rich. He like Labour hate the truth in any form.

    Pooh

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