Actually being seriously discussed by Labour.
Enough said.
On 29/03/2016 9:25 a.m., JohnO wrote:
Actually being seriously discussed by Labour.It's only really free for those who are already getting free money. But >they're due for their annual change of leader and reshuffle of the >left-overs, so it won't get much further for a few years.
Enough said.
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:19:52 +1300, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 29/03/2016 9:25 a.m., JohnO wrote:
Actually being seriously discussed by Labour.It's only really free for those who are already getting free money. But >they're due for their annual change of leader and reshuffle of the >left-overs, so it won't get much further for a few years.
Enough said.
Most people will not get any further for at least another year Fred;
but that could all change in 2018 - some of these ideas may help: http://www.labour.org.nz/ten_big_ideas
Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:19:52 +1300, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 29/03/2016 9:25 a.m., JohnO wrote:
Actually being seriously discussed by Labour.It's only really free for those who are already getting free money. But >>they're due for their annual change of leader and reshuffle of the >>left-overs, so it won't get much further for a few years.
Enough said.
Most people will not get any further for at least another year Fred;
but that could all change in 2018 - some of these ideas may help: http://www.labour.org.nz/ten_big_ideas
Oh dear.
1. Digital equality: make one man pay for another's internet access. Unethical!
2. Tech in business: Make families pay for business tech. Unethical.
3. Business clusters: too little detail.
4. Building wealth: too little detail. Does "supporting new business models" mean "welfare for businesses"?
5. A just transition: I.e. more welfare. Unethical.
6. Income security. Make those that work pay for those that don't.
Unethical.
7. Reforming education/training/work transitions. Smalls like more welfare
to me.
8. Free tertiary education. More welfare. Absolutely unethical.
9. Maori partnerships. Apartheid. Racism. Unethical.
10. Pasifika partnerships. See above.
Oh dear indeed. I propose a new group noun for Labour policies: they are hereby called a "tragedy of policies". Let's keep these people as far away from the levers of power as possible.
--
"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs." creates the incentive to minimize your abilities and maximize your needs.
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:19:52 +1300, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 29/03/2016 9:25 a.m., JohnO wrote:
Actually being seriously discussed by Labour.It's only really free for those who are already getting free money. But >>they're due for their annual change of leader and reshuffle of the >>left-overs, so it won't get much further for a few years.
Enough said.
Most people will not get any further for at least another year Fred;
but that could all change in 2018 - some of these ideas may help: http://www.labour.org.nz/ten_big_ideas
Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:19:52 +1300, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 29/03/2016 9:25 a.m., JohnO wrote:
Actually being seriously discussed by Labour.It's only really free for those who are already getting free money. But >>>they're due for their annual change of leader and reshuffle of the >>>left-overs, so it won't get much further for a few years.
Enough said.
Most people will not get any further for at least another year Fred;
but that could all change in 2018 - some of these ideas may help:
http://www.labour.org.nz/ten_big_ideas
Oh dear.
1. Digital equality: make one man pay for another's internet access. >Unethical!
2. Tech in business: Make families pay for business tech. Unethical.
3. Business clusters: too little detail.
4. Building wealth: too little detail. Does "supporting new business models" >mean "welfare for businesses"?
5. A just transition: I.e. more welfare. Unethical.
6. Income security. Make those that work pay for those that don't.
Unethical.
7. Reforming education/training/work transitions. Smalls like more welfare
to me.
8. Free tertiary education. More welfare. Absolutely unethical.
9. Maori partnerships. Apartheid. Racism. Unethical.
10. Pasifika partnerships. See above.
Oh dear indeed. I propose a new group noun for Labour policies: they are >hereby called a "tragedy of policies". Let's keep these people as far away >from the levers of power as possible.
Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:19:52 +1300, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 29/03/2016 9:25 a.m., JohnO wrote:
Actually being seriously discussed by Labour.It's only really free for those who are already getting free money. But >>>they're due for their annual change of leader and reshuffle of the >>>left-overs, so it won't get much further for a few years.
Enough said.
Most people will not get any further for at least another year Fred;
but that could all change in 2018 - some of these ideas may help:
http://www.labour.org.nz/ten_big_ideas
Oh dear.
1. Digital equality: make one man pay for another's internet access. >Unethical!
2. Tech in business: Make families pay for business tech. Unethical.
3. Business clusters: too little detail.
4. Building wealth: too little detail. Does "supporting new business models" >mean "welfare for businesses"?
5. A just transition: I.e. more welfare. Unethical.
6. Income security. Make those that work pay for those that don't.
Unethical.
7. Reforming education/training/work transitions. Smalls like more welfare
to me.
8. Free tertiary education. More welfare. Absolutely unethical.
9. Maori partnerships. Apartheid. Racism. Unethical.
10. Pasifika partnerships. See above.
Oh dear indeed. I propose a new group noun for Labour policies: they are >hereby called a "tragedy of policies". Let's keep these people as far away >from the levers of power as possible.
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:19:52 +1300, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 29/03/2016 9:25 a.m., JohnO wrote:
Actually being seriously discussed by Labour.It's only really free for those who are already getting free money. But >>they're due for their annual change of leader and reshuffle of the >>left-overs, so it won't get much further for a few years.
Enough said.
Most people will not get any further for at least another year Fred;
but that could all change in 2018 - some of these ideas may help: >http://www.labour.org.nz/ten_big_ideas
Great post Allistar.
Lets face it the so called big ideas are just so appalling.
On 2016-03-29, Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:
Great post Allistar.
Lets face it the so called big ideas are just so appalling.
Let us not forget that a National Government also had some Think Big ideas. >Which were put into action.
410,000 new jobs going to be created, etc. Still you have to try.
Oh dear.
1. Digital equality: make one man pay for another's internet access. >>Unethical!
2. Tech in business: Make families pay for business tech. Unethical.
3. Business clusters: too little detail.
4. Building wealth: too little detail. Does "supporting new business models" >>mean "welfare for businesses"?
5. A just transition: I.e. more welfare. Unethical.
6. Income security. Make those that work pay for those that don't. >>Unethical.
7. Reforming education/training/work transitions. Smalls like more welfare >>to me.
8. Free tertiary education. More welfare. Absolutely unethical.
9. Maori partnerships. Apartheid. Racism. Unethical.
10. Pasifika partnerships. See above.
Oh dear indeed. I propose a new group noun for Labour policies: they are >>hereby called a "tragedy of policies". Let's keep these people as far away >>from the levers of power as possible.
These sort of policies will keep them in opposition for years I
suspect..
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:19:52 +1300, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 29/03/2016 9:25 a.m., JohnO wrote:
Actually being seriously discussed by Labour.It's only really free for those who are already getting free money. But >>they're due for their annual change of leader and reshuffle of the >>left-overs, so it won't get much further for a few years.
Enough said.
Most people will not get any further for at least another year Fred;
but that could all change in 2018
- some of these ideas may help:
http://www.labour.org.nz/ten_big_ideas
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:19:52 +1300, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 29/03/2016 9:25 a.m., JohnO wrote:
Actually being seriously discussed by Labour.It's only really free for those who are already getting free money. But
Enough said.
they're due for their annual change of leader and reshuffle of the
left-overs, so it won't get much further for a few years.
Most people will not get any further for at least another year Fred;
but that could all change in 2018 - some of these ideas may help: http://www.labour.org.nz/ten_big_ideas
Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com> wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:19:52 +1300, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 29/03/2016 9:25 a.m., JohnO wrote:
Actually being seriously discussed by Labour.It's only really free for those who are already getting free money. But >>>> they're due for their annual change of leader and reshuffle of the
Enough said.
left-overs, so it won't get much further for a few years.
Most people will not get any further for at least another year Fred;
but that could all change in 2018 - some of these ideas may help:
http://www.labour.org.nz/ten_big_ideas
Oh dear.
1. Digital equality: make one man pay for another's internet access.
Unethical!
2. Tech in business: Make families pay for business tech. Unethical.
3. Business clusters: too little detail.
4. Building wealth: too little detail. Does "supporting new business models" >> mean "welfare for businesses"?
5. A just transition: I.e. more welfare. Unethical.
6. Income security. Make those that work pay for those that don't.
Unethical.
7. Reforming education/training/work transitions. Smalls like more welfare >> to me.
8. Free tertiary education. More welfare. Absolutely unethical.
9. Maori partnerships. Apartheid. Racism. Unethical.
10. Pasifika partnerships. See above.
Oh dear indeed. I propose a new group noun for Labour policies: they are
hereby called a "tragedy of policies". Let's keep these people as far away >>from the levers of power as possible.
These sort of policies will keep them in opposition for years I
suspect..
On 2016-03-29, Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:
Great post Allistar.
Lets face it the so called big ideas are just so appalling.
Let us not forget that a National Government also had some Think Big
ideas.
Which were put into action.
410,000 new jobs going to be created, etc. Still you have to try.
On Tuesday, 29 March 2016 15:26:11 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:19:52 +1300, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 29/03/2016 9:25 a.m., JohnO wrote:
Actually being seriously discussed by Labour.It's only really free for those who are already getting free money. But
Enough said.
they're due for their annual change of leader and reshuffle of the
left-overs, so it won't get much further for a few years.
Most people will not get any further for at least another year Fred;
but that could all change in 2018 - some of these ideas may help:
http://www.labour.org.nz/ten_big_ideas
... and if you don't like those ideas, don't worry. Labour will toss them
in the bin and come up with some new knee-jerk policy-on-the-hoof garbage soon enough.
That's how Labour roll.
On 29/03/2016 3:26 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:19:52 +1300, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:What a bunch of pathetic slogans. Surely labour can afford an advertising/public relations agency to straighten themselves out a bit.
On 29/03/2016 9:25 a.m., JohnO wrote:
Actually being seriously discussed by Labour.It's only really free for those who are already getting free money. But
Enough said.
they're due for their annual change of leader and reshuffle of the
left-overs, so it won't get much further for a few years.
Most people will not get any further for at least another year Fred;
but that could all change in 2018 - some of these ideas may help:
http://www.labour.org.nz/ten_big_ideas
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:19:52 +1300, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 29/03/2016 9:25 a.m., JohnO wrote:
Actually being seriously discussed by Labour.It's only really free for those who are already getting free money. But >>they're due for their annual change of leader and reshuffle of the >>left-overs, so it won't get much further for a few years.
Enough said.
Most people will not get any further for at least another year Fred;
but that could all change in 2018 - some of these ideas may help: http://www.labour.org.nz/ten_big_ideas
Actually being seriously discussed by Labour.
Enough said.
"JohnO" <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote in message news:49eca5d0-67a2-4ae3-be67-5f4a41e542ae@googlegroups.com...
Actually being seriously discussed by Labour.
Enough said.
Actually going to need flat taxes of 50% plus to impliment it. Even other fans of the idea admit it'd destroy the economy if it was implimented.
Labour must be happy in opposition even if they're doing a worse job than National did.
Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com> wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:19:52 +1300, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 29/03/2016 9:25 a.m., JohnO wrote:
Actually being seriously discussed by Labour.It's only really free for those who are already getting free money. But >>>> they're due for their annual change of leader and reshuffle of the
Enough said.
left-overs, so it won't get much further for a few years.
Most people will not get any further for at least another year Fred;
but that could all change in 2018 - some of these ideas may help:
http://www.labour.org.nz/ten_big_ideas
Oh dear.
1. Digital equality: make one man pay for another's internet access.
Unethical!
2. Tech in business: Make families pay for business tech. Unethical.
3. Business clusters: too little detail.
4. Building wealth: too little detail. Does "supporting new business
models"
mean "welfare for businesses"?
5. A just transition: I.e. more welfare. Unethical.
6. Income security. Make those that work pay for those that don't.
Unethical.
7. Reforming education/training/work transitions. Smalls like more
welfare
to me.
8. Free tertiary education. More welfare. Absolutely unethical.
9. Maori partnerships. Apartheid. Racism. Unethical.
10. Pasifika partnerships. See above.
Oh dear indeed. I propose a new group noun for Labour policies: they are
hereby called a "tragedy of policies". Let's keep these people as far
away
from the levers of power as possible.
These sort of policies will keep them in opposition for years I
suspect..
"george152" wrote in message news:l96dnXeN7Y_yTWfLnZ2dnUU7-U_NnZ2d@giganews.com...
On 3/29/2016 4:34 PM, Mutlley wrote:
Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com> wrote:And they've gone in to bat for the redundant post office redundant
Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:19:52 +1300, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 29/03/2016 9:25 a.m., JohnO wrote:
Actually being seriously discussed by Labour.It's only really free for those who are already getting free money.
Enough said.
But
they're due for their annual change of leader and reshuffle of the
left-overs, so it won't get much further for a few years.
Most people will not get any further for at least another year Fred;
but that could all change in 2018 - some of these ideas may help:
http://www.labour.org.nz/ten_big_ideas
Oh dear.
1. Digital equality: make one man pay for another's internet access.
Unethical!
2. Tech in business: Make families pay for business tech. Unethical.
3. Business clusters: too little detail.
4. Building wealth: too little detail. Does "supporting new business
models"
mean "welfare for businesses"?
5. A just transition: I.e. more welfare. Unethical.
6. Income security. Make those that work pay for those that don't.
Unethical.
7. Reforming education/training/work transitions. Smalls like more
welfare
to me.
8. Free tertiary education. More welfare. Absolutely unethical.
9. Maori partnerships. Apartheid. Racism. Unethical.
10. Pasifika partnerships. See above.
Oh dear indeed. I propose a new group noun for Labour policies: they are >>> hereby called a "tragedy of policies". Let's keep these people as far
away
from the levers of power as possible.
These sort of policies will keep them in opposition for years I
suspect..
middle management...
Instead of actually producing a -plan- that could transfer middle
managers across into another Liebor backed money tree ... like the
trade unions or teachers or MSM they blame National for not protecting
their buddies
.........
Don't make them redundant, let them help to deliver the mail.
"george152" wrote in message news:l96dnXeN7Y_yTWfLnZ2dnUU7-U_NnZ2d@giganews.com...
On 3/29/2016 4:34 PM, Mutlley wrote:
Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com> wrote:And they've gone in to bat for the redundant post office redundant
Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:19:52 +1300, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 29/03/2016 9:25 a.m., JohnO wrote:
Actually being seriously discussed by Labour.It's only really free for those who are already getting free money.
Enough said.
But
they're due for their annual change of leader and reshuffle of the
left-overs, so it won't get much further for a few years.
Most people will not get any further for at least another year Fred;
but that could all change in 2018 - some of these ideas may help:
http://www.labour.org.nz/ten_big_ideas
Oh dear.
1. Digital equality: make one man pay for another's internet access.
Unethical!
2. Tech in business: Make families pay for business tech. Unethical.
3. Business clusters: too little detail.
4. Building wealth: too little detail. Does "supporting new business
models"
mean "welfare for businesses"?
5. A just transition: I.e. more welfare. Unethical.
6. Income security. Make those that work pay for those that don't.
Unethical.
7. Reforming education/training/work transitions. Smalls like more
welfare
to me.
8. Free tertiary education. More welfare. Absolutely unethical.
9. Maori partnerships. Apartheid. Racism. Unethical.
10. Pasifika partnerships. See above.
Oh dear indeed. I propose a new group noun for Labour policies: they are >>> hereby called a "tragedy of policies". Let's keep these people as far
away
from the levers of power as possible.
These sort of policies will keep them in opposition for years I
suspect..
middle management...
Instead of actually producing a -plan- that could transfer middle
managers across into another Liebor backed money tree ... like the
trade unions or teachers or MSM they blame National for not protecting
their buddies
.........
Don't make them redundant, let them help to deliver the mail.
"george152" wrote in message news:Xb-dnR0DAuP8vmHLnZ2dnUU7-fWdnZ2d@giganews.com...
On 3/31/2016 12:06 AM, geopelia wrote:
"george152" wrote in message
news:l96dnXeN7Y_yTWfLnZ2dnUU7-U_NnZ2d@giganews.com...
On 3/29/2016 4:34 PM, Mutlley wrote:
Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com> wrote:And they've gone in to bat for the redundant post office redundant
Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:19:52 +1300, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
On 29/03/2016 9:25 a.m., JohnO wrote:
Actually being seriously discussed by Labour.It's only really free for those who are already getting free money. >>>>>> But
Enough said.
they're due for their annual change of leader and reshuffle of the >>>>>> left-overs, so it won't get much further for a few years.
Most people will not get any further for at least another year Fred; >>>>> but that could all change in 2018 - some of these ideas may help:
http://www.labour.org.nz/ten_big_ideas
Oh dear.
1. Digital equality: make one man pay for another's internet access.
Unethical!
2. Tech in business: Make families pay for business tech. Unethical.
3. Business clusters: too little detail.
4. Building wealth: too little detail. Does "supporting new business
models"
mean "welfare for businesses"?
5. A just transition: I.e. more welfare. Unethical.
6. Income security. Make those that work pay for those that don't.
Unethical.
7. Reforming education/training/work transitions. Smalls like more
welfare
to me.
8. Free tertiary education. More welfare. Absolutely unethical.
9. Maori partnerships. Apartheid. Racism. Unethical.
10. Pasifika partnerships. See above.
Oh dear indeed. I propose a new group noun for Labour policies: they
are
hereby called a "tragedy of policies". Let's keep these people as far
away
from the levers of power as possible.
These sort of policies will keep them in opposition for years I
suspect..
middle management...
Instead of actually producing a -plan- that could transfer middle
managers across into another Liebor backed money tree ... like the
trade unions or teachers or MSM they blame National for not protecting
their buddies
.........
Don't make them redundant, let them help to deliver the mail.
Middle management do not deliver mail...
.......
Perhaps they should start out on deliveries. It would give them some
idea of what is involved.
Pooh wrote:
"JohnO" <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:49eca5d0-67a2-4ae3-be67-5f4a41e542ae@googlegroups.com...
Actually being seriously discussed by Labour.
Enough said.
Actually going to need flat taxes of 50% plus to impliment it. Even other
fans of the idea admit it'd destroy the economy if it was implimented.
Labour must be happy in opposition even if they're doing a worse job than
National did.
I predict they won't be in opposition long. That'll be the Greens. Labour will go the way of InternetMana.
--
"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs." creates the incentive to minimize your abilities and maximize your needs.
"george152" wrote in message news:Xb-dnR0DAuP8vmHLnZ2dnUU7-fWdnZ2d@giganews.com...
On 3/31/2016 12:06 AM, geopelia wrote:
"george152" wrote in message
news:l96dnXeN7Y_yTWfLnZ2dnUU7-U_NnZ2d@giganews.com...
On 3/29/2016 4:34 PM, Mutlley wrote:
Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com> wrote:And they've gone in to bat for the redundant post office redundant
Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:19:52 +1300, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
On 29/03/2016 9:25 a.m., JohnO wrote:
Actually being seriously discussed by Labour.It's only really free for those who are already getting free money. >>>>>> But
Enough said.
they're due for their annual change of leader and reshuffle of the >>>>>> left-overs, so it won't get much further for a few years.
Most people will not get any further for at least another year Fred; >>>>> but that could all change in 2018 - some of these ideas may help:
http://www.labour.org.nz/ten_big_ideas
Oh dear.
1. Digital equality: make one man pay for another's internet access.
Unethical!
2. Tech in business: Make families pay for business tech. Unethical.
3. Business clusters: too little detail.
4. Building wealth: too little detail. Does "supporting new business
models"
mean "welfare for businesses"?
5. A just transition: I.e. more welfare. Unethical.
6. Income security. Make those that work pay for those that don't.
Unethical.
7. Reforming education/training/work transitions. Smalls like more
welfare
to me.
8. Free tertiary education. More welfare. Absolutely unethical.
9. Maori partnerships. Apartheid. Racism. Unethical.
10. Pasifika partnerships. See above.
Oh dear indeed. I propose a new group noun for Labour policies: they
are
hereby called a "tragedy of policies". Let's keep these people as far
away
from the levers of power as possible.
These sort of policies will keep them in opposition for years I
suspect..
middle management...
Instead of actually producing a -plan- that could transfer middle
managers across into another Liebor backed money tree ... like the
trade unions or teachers or MSM they blame National for not protecting
their buddies
.........
Don't make them redundant, let them help to deliver the mail.
Middle management do not deliver mail...
.......
Perhaps they should start out on deliveries. It would give them some
idea of what is involved.
On 3/29/2016 4:34 PM, Mutlley wrote:
Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com> wrote:And they've gone in to bat for the redundant post office redundant
Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:19:52 +1300, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 29/03/2016 9:25 a.m., JohnO wrote:
Actually being seriously discussed by Labour.It's only really free for those who are already getting free money.
Enough said.
But
they're due for their annual change of leader and reshuffle of the
left-overs, so it won't get much further for a few years.
Most people will not get any further for at least another year Fred;
but that could all change in 2018 - some of these ideas may help:
http://www.labour.org.nz/ten_big_ideas
Oh dear.
1. Digital equality: make one man pay for another's internet access.
Unethical!
2. Tech in business: Make families pay for business tech. Unethical.
3. Business clusters: too little detail.
4. Building wealth: too little detail. Does "supporting new business
models"
mean "welfare for businesses"?
5. A just transition: I.e. more welfare. Unethical.
6. Income security. Make those that work pay for those that don't.
Unethical.
7. Reforming education/training/work transitions. Smalls like more
welfare
to me.
8. Free tertiary education. More welfare. Absolutely unethical.
9. Maori partnerships. Apartheid. Racism. Unethical.
10. Pasifika partnerships. See above.
Oh dear indeed. I propose a new group noun for Labour policies: they are >>> hereby called a "tragedy of policies". Let's keep these people as far
away
from the levers of power as possible.
These sort of policies will keep them in opposition for years I
suspect..
middle management...
Instead of actually producing a -plan- that could transfer middle
managers across into another Liebor backed money tree ... like the
trade unions or teachers or MSM they blame National for not protecting
their buddies
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:19:52 +1300, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 29/03/2016 9:25 a.m., JohnO wrote:
Actually being seriously discussed by Labour.It's only really free for those who are already getting free money. But
Enough said.
they're due for their annual change of leader and reshuffle of the
left-overs, so it won't get much further for a few years.
Most people will not get any further for at least another year Fred;
but that could all change in 2018 - some of these ideas may help: http://www.labour.org.nz/ten_big_ideas
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