• Re: Labour occupying themselves with idiotic fantasies again

    From Fred@3:770/3 to JohnO on Monday, March 21, 2016 13:44:37
    On 21/03/2016 1:34 p.m., JohnO wrote:
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/03/labours_38_billion_bribe.html

    Yep, they're actually talking about the MOAB (mother of all bribes).

    No wonder less than 30% of voters want them.

    Morgan was on about this a year or two back. Wrote a book about it
    called The big Kahuna. It didn't set too many economists alight, so he
    switched his attention to cats.
    Garreth Morgan's scheme was for 11k to everyone - tax free. This would
    replace all benefits. Then all earnings to be at a flat rate of 30%.
    Hate to think what it would do to work incentive. Not a problem because
    like Labour winning the next election - it won't happen.

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  • From Fred@3:770/3 to JohnO on Monday, March 21, 2016 14:10:06
    On 21/03/2016 2:00 p.m., JohnO wrote:
    On Monday, 21 March 2016 13:44:53 UTC+13, Fred wrote:
    On 21/03/2016 1:34 p.m., JohnO wrote:
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/03/labours_38_billion_bribe.html

    Yep, they're actually talking about the MOAB (mother of all bribes).

    No wonder less than 30% of voters want them.

    Morgan was on about this a year or two back. Wrote a book about it
    called The big Kahuna. It didn't set too many economists alight, so he
    switched his attention to cats.
    Garreth Morgan's scheme was for 11k to everyone - tax free. This would
    replace all benefits. Then all earnings to be at a flat rate of 30%.
    Hate to think what it would do to work incentive. Not a problem because
    like Labour winning the next election - it won't happen.

    DPF calculated that the tax rate above $48k would have to be 82% to fund this
    nonsense. Naturally after a year you'd lose so many people in that bracket that
    the rate would head towards 100%.

    Yeah, it would have to be a flat tax on all earnings, around 30% but the handout would be tax free for everyone. Even labour will soon work that
    out. It will keep them distracted for a while as they slide down in the
    polls. At least it's not as silly as that scheme Parker came out with
    while it was his turn to be the finance spokesman. Can't remember
    details but it was about a variable rate for kiwisaver to control
    inflation or something equally wanky.

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Sunday, March 20, 2016 17:34:40
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/03/labours_38_billion_bribe.html

    Yep, they're actually talking about the MOAB (mother of all bribes).

    No wonder less than 30% of voters want them.

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to Fred on Sunday, March 20, 2016 18:00:15
    On Monday, 21 March 2016 13:44:53 UTC+13, Fred wrote:
    On 21/03/2016 1:34 p.m., JohnO wrote:
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/03/labours_38_billion_bribe.html

    Yep, they're actually talking about the MOAB (mother of all bribes).

    No wonder less than 30% of voters want them.

    Morgan was on about this a year or two back. Wrote a book about it
    called The big Kahuna. It didn't set too many economists alight, so he switched his attention to cats.
    Garreth Morgan's scheme was for 11k to everyone - tax free. This would replace all benefits. Then all earnings to be at a flat rate of 30%.
    Hate to think what it would do to work incentive. Not a problem because
    like Labour winning the next election - it won't happen.

    DPF calculated that the tax rate above $48k would have to be 82% to fund this nonsense. Naturally after a year you'd lose so many people in that bracket that
    the rate would head towards 100%.

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to Fred on Monday, March 21, 2016 18:16:23
    "Fred" <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:ncnhfv$rrd$1@dont-email.me...
    On 21/03/2016 2:00 p.m., JohnO wrote:
    On Monday, 21 March 2016 13:44:53 UTC+13, Fred wrote:
    On 21/03/2016 1:34 p.m., JohnO wrote:
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/03/labours_38_billion_bribe.html

    Yep, they're actually talking about the MOAB (mother of all bribes).

    No wonder less than 30% of voters want them.

    Morgan was on about this a year or two back. Wrote a book about it
    called The big Kahuna. It didn't set too many economists alight, so he
    switched his attention to cats.
    Garreth Morgan's scheme was for 11k to everyone - tax free. This would
    replace all benefits. Then all earnings to be at a flat rate of 30%.
    Hate to think what it would do to work incentive. Not a problem because
    like Labour winning the next election - it won't happen.

    DPF calculated that the tax rate above $48k would have to be 82% to fund
    this nonsense. Naturally after a year you'd lose so many people in that
    bracket that the rate would head towards 100%.

    Yeah, it would have to be a flat tax on all earnings, around 30% but the handout would be tax free for everyone. Even labour will soon work that
    out. It will keep them distracted for a while as they slide down in the polls. At least it's not as silly as that scheme Parker came out with
    while it was his turn to be the finance spokesman. Can't remember details
    but it was about a variable rate for kiwisaver to control inflation or something equally wanky.

    What a couple of sad sack National toadies! Look at the benefits: In one
    fowl swoop Liebor will erradicate poverty! Rich should be in as soon as he's got his latest update to put you rightwhingers straight :)

    Pooh

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  • From Fred@3:770/3 to Pooh on Monday, March 21, 2016 18:43:39
    On 21/03/2016 6:16 p.m., Pooh wrote:
    "Fred" <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ncnhfv$rrd$1@dont-email.me...
    On 21/03/2016 2:00 p.m., JohnO wrote:
    On Monday, 21 March 2016 13:44:53 UTC+13, Fred wrote:
    On 21/03/2016 1:34 p.m., JohnO wrote:
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/03/labours_38_billion_bribe.html

    Yep, they're actually talking about the MOAB (mother of all bribes). >>>>>
    No wonder less than 30% of voters want them.

    Morgan was on about this a year or two back. Wrote a book about it
    called The big Kahuna. It didn't set too many economists alight, so he >>>> switched his attention to cats.
    Garreth Morgan's scheme was for 11k to everyone - tax free. This would >>>> replace all benefits. Then all earnings to be at a flat rate of 30%.
    Hate to think what it would do to work incentive. Not a problem because >>>> like Labour winning the next election - it won't happen.

    DPF calculated that the tax rate above $48k would have to be 82% to fund >>> this nonsense. Naturally after a year you'd lose so many people in that
    bracket that the rate would head towards 100%.

    Yeah, it would have to be a flat tax on all earnings, around 30% but the
    handout would be tax free for everyone. Even labour will soon work that
    out. It will keep them distracted for a while as they slide down in the
    polls. At least it's not as silly as that scheme Parker came out with
    while it was his turn to be the finance spokesman. Can't remember details
    but it was about a variable rate for kiwisaver to control inflation or
    something equally wanky.

    What a couple of sad sack National toadies! Look at the benefits: In one
    fell swoop Liebor will eradicate poverty! Rich should be in as soon as he's got his latest update to put you rightwhingers straight :)

    Pooh


    Yes. He'll be at the training school at the moment.

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to Fred on Monday, March 21, 2016 13:49:32
    On Monday, 21 March 2016 18:43:57 UTC+13, Fred wrote:
    On 21/03/2016 6:16 p.m., Pooh wrote:
    "Fred" <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ncnhfv$rrd$1@dont-email.me...
    On 21/03/2016 2:00 p.m., JohnO wrote:
    On Monday, 21 March 2016 13:44:53 UTC+13, Fred wrote:
    On 21/03/2016 1:34 p.m., JohnO wrote:
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/03/labours_38_billion_bribe.html

    Yep, they're actually talking about the MOAB (mother of all bribes). >>>>>
    No wonder less than 30% of voters want them.

    Morgan was on about this a year or two back. Wrote a book about it
    called The big Kahuna. It didn't set too many economists alight, so he >>>> switched his attention to cats.
    Garreth Morgan's scheme was for 11k to everyone - tax free. This would >>>> replace all benefits. Then all earnings to be at a flat rate of 30%. >>>> Hate to think what it would do to work incentive. Not a problem because >>>> like Labour winning the next election - it won't happen.

    DPF calculated that the tax rate above $48k would have to be 82% to fund >>> this nonsense. Naturally after a year you'd lose so many people in that >>> bracket that the rate would head towards 100%.

    Yeah, it would have to be a flat tax on all earnings, around 30% but the >> handout would be tax free for everyone. Even labour will soon work that
    out. It will keep them distracted for a while as they slide down in the
    polls. At least it's not as silly as that scheme Parker came out with
    while it was his turn to be the finance spokesman. Can't remember details >> but it was about a variable rate for kiwisaver to control inflation or
    something equally wanky.

    What a couple of sad sack National toadies! Look at the benefits: In one fell swoop Liebor will eradicate poverty! Rich should be in as soon as he's got his latest update to put you rightwhingers straight :)

    Pooh


    Yes. He'll be at the training school at the moment.

    This UBI blurt is just another non-policy on the hoof from a rudderless shambles of a party.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/78032969/is-andrew-little-getting-angry-about-all-the-wrong-things

    No focus, no direction, no consistency. Just off-the-hoof idea of the week.

    No wonder Dickbot's taking a holiday - poor thing is totally confused about what to post about.

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Wednesday, March 23, 2016 18:33:10
    "JohnO" <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote in message news:3eb4fd19-9345-4af2-b7b4-d8a80a84aa0f@googlegroups.com...
    On Monday, 21 March 2016 18:43:57 UTC+13, Fred wrote:
    On 21/03/2016 6:16 p.m., Pooh wrote:
    "Fred" <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:ncnhfv$rrd$1@dont-email.me...
    On 21/03/2016 2:00 p.m., JohnO wrote:
    On Monday, 21 March 2016 13:44:53 UTC+13, Fred wrote:
    On 21/03/2016 1:34 p.m., JohnO wrote:
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/03/labours_38_billion_bribe.html

    Yep, they're actually talking about the MOAB (mother of all
    bribes).

    No wonder less than 30% of voters want them.

    Morgan was on about this a year or two back. Wrote a book about it
    called The big Kahuna. It didn't set too many economists alight, so
    he
    switched his attention to cats.
    Garreth Morgan's scheme was for 11k to everyone - tax free. This
    would
    replace all benefits. Then all earnings to be at a flat rate of 30%.
    Hate to think what it would do to work incentive. Not a problem
    because
    like Labour winning the next election - it won't happen.

    DPF calculated that the tax rate above $48k would have to be 82% to
    fund
    this nonsense. Naturally after a year you'd lose so many people in
    that
    bracket that the rate would head towards 100%.

    Yeah, it would have to be a flat tax on all earnings, around 30% but
    the
    handout would be tax free for everyone. Even labour will soon work
    that
    out. It will keep them distracted for a while as they slide down in
    the
    polls. At least it's not as silly as that scheme Parker came out with
    while it was his turn to be the finance spokesman. Can't remember
    details
    but it was about a variable rate for kiwisaver to control inflation or
    something equally wanky.

    What a couple of sad sack National toadies! Look at the benefits: In
    one
    fell swoop Liebor will eradicate poverty! Rich should be in as soon as
    he's
    got his latest update to put you rightwhingers straight :)

    Pooh


    Yes. He'll be at the training school at the moment.

    This UBI blurt is just another non-policy on the hoof from a rudderless shambles of a party.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/78032969/is-andrew-little-getting-angry-about-all-the-wrong-things

    No focus, no direction, no consistency. Just off-the-hoof idea of the
    week.

    No wonder Dickbot's taking a holiday - poor thing is totally confused
    about what to post about.

    Probably had a massive brainfart (that is if someone as patently brainless
    as Rich is capable) and had to be hospitalised in a nicely padded room in a jacket that buttons at the back till he comes down :)

    Pooh

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