The accompanying editorial is also worth a read: >http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11608101 She is spot on I think. Once more the reality that Labour have no policies, poor leadership and are largely incompetent comes through - I am personally unhappy about that but it is an absolute truth I believe.A second well made point is about the TPP, clearly it is with us unless there is a stumble overseas and Labour would do well to let it go - there is nothing in the comprehensive documents that have been released that is of serious concern to this country and as Helen Clark said said it would be "unthinkable" for New Zealand to be left out of the TPP. Labour would do well to remember that they started the ball rolling during their last period in government.
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote: >>http://media.nzherald.co.nz/webcontent/image/gif/201612/190316POLCOLTOON2.gif >>
The accompanying editorial is also worth a read: >>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11608101She is spot on I think. Once more the reality that Labour have no policies, >poor leadership and are largely incompetent comes through - I am personally >unhappy about that but it is an absolute truth I believe.
A second well made point is about the TPP, clearly it is with us unless there >is a stumble overseas and Labour would do well to let it go - there is nothing >in the comprehensive documents that have been released that is of serious >concern to this country and as Helen Clark said said it would be "unthinkable" >for New Zealand to be left out of the TPP. Labour would do well to remember >that they started the ball rolling during their last period in government. >Tony
On 3/20/2016 9:26 PM, Crash wrote:
The TPPA objectors would do well to cite chapter and verse when it
comes to detailing their objections. Simply saying 'it limits our sovereign rights' or 'it limits Maori rights' don't cut it - specify
which clauses in the agreement specifically give cause for objection -
then we can all be specific on whether the text of the agreement is as
bad as the detractors claim.
Bitching about the TPPA (which Liebor initiated) is all they have.
Look at the stupidity of those who object to the new Kermadec
conservation zone.
No-one has been fishing there for quite a while.
It's widely known throughout the industry that there was moves to make
it a 'protected area'..
Now theres the scent of a few bob for the rapacious and the Maori are
off to court for a payout..
The TPPA objectors would do well to cite chapter and verse when it
comes to detailing their objections. Simply saying 'it limits our
sovereign rights' or 'it limits Maori rights' don't cut it - specify
which clauses in the agreement specifically give cause for objection -
then we can all be specific on whether the text of the agreement is as
bad as the detractors claim.
On Monday, 21 March 2016 08:07:34 UTC+13, george wrote:
On 3/20/2016 9:26 PM, Crash wrote:
The TPPA objectors would do well to cite chapter and verse when itBitching about the TPPA (which Liebor initiated) is all they have.
comes to detailing their objections. Simply saying 'it limits our
sovereign rights' or 'it limits Maori rights' don't cut it - specify
which clauses in the agreement specifically give cause for objection -
then we can all be specific on whether the text of the agreement is as
bad as the detractors claim.
Look at the stupidity of those who object to the new Kermadec
conservation zone.
No-one has been fishing there for quite a while.
10 years.
It's widely known throughout the industry that there was moves to make
it a 'protected area'..
Now theres the scent of a few bob for the rapacious and the Maori are
off to court for a payout..
And Labour has voted for the enabling legislation. But now one of their
MPs is complaining about it. Useless.
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