• Teacher unions give a shit about students as well as their union member

    From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Monday, March 14, 2016 20:28:55
    Yeah, right!

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/77825339/teachers-union-protected-robert-burrett--claim

    This discraceful sicko was protected by the NZEI.

    Oh, and registering teachers somehow helps? Clearly not.

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Tuesday, March 15, 2016 16:46:23
    On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 20:28:55 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Yeah, right!

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/77825339/teachers-union-protected-robert-burrett--claim

    This discraceful sicko was protected by the NZEI.

    Oh, and registering teachers somehow helps? Clearly not.

    Do you doubt that they, and the law, have learned a thing ot two since
    1983 and 2001?

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Monday, March 14, 2016 23:44:39
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 20:28:55 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Yeah, right!
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/77825339/teachers-union-protected-robert-burrett--claim

    This discraceful sicko was protected by the NZEI.

    Oh, and registering teachers somehow helps? Clearly not.

    Do you doubt that they, and the law, have learned a thing ot two since
    1983 and 2001?
    Quote
    "Mills said it was the employer's role and legal obligation to report teachers where there were claims of incompetency or misconduct.
    "We are not in the role of reporting individual teachers, because this is clearly a board's responsibility."
    So they don't actually care how many kids are raped, is that right?

    Tony

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to dot nz on Tuesday, March 15, 2016 22:29:04
    On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 23:44:39 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 20:28:55 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>wrote:

    Yeah, right!
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/77825339/teachers-union-protected-robert-burrett--claim

    This discraceful sicko was protected by the NZEI.

    Oh, and registering teachers somehow helps? Clearly not.

    Do you doubt that they, and the law, have learned a thing ot two since
    1983 and 2001?
    Quote
    "Mills said it was the employer's role and legal obligation to report teachers >where there were claims of incompetency or misconduct.
    "We are not in the role of reporting individual teachers, because this is >clearly a board's responsibility."
    So they don't actually care how many kids are raped, is that right?
    No, it is just not their role.
    Its not your role either - so does that mean you don;t care how many
    kids are raped? Of course it doesn't.

    All people have a responsibility for ensuring that knowledge of a crie
    or even strong suspician that a crime has been committed are reported
    to the police, but the primary responsilibity to report claims was the
    employer - there is also no suggestion that the union hid any
    information from anyone.

    Are you one of those people that think a defence attorney is often as
    guilty of the crime as the defendant?


    Tony

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to JohnO on Wednesday, March 16, 2016 08:03:31
    On 3/15/2016 4:28 PM, JohnO wrote:
    Yeah, right!

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/77825339/teachers-union-protected-robert-burrett--claim

    This discraceful sicko was protected by the NZEI.

    Oh, and registering teachers somehow helps? Clearly not.


    But he was a union member

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Tuesday, March 15, 2016 15:57:07
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 23:44:39 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 20:28:55 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>wrote:

    Yeah, right!
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/77825339/teachers-union-protected-robert-burrett--claim

    This discraceful sicko was protected by the NZEI.

    Oh, and registering teachers somehow helps? Clearly not.

    Do you doubt that they, and the law, have learned a thing ot two since >>>1983 and 2001?
    Quote
    "Mills said it was the employer's role and legal obligation to report >>teachers
    where there were claims of incompetency or misconduct.
    "We are not in the role of reporting individual teachers, because this is >>clearly a board's responsibility."
    So they don't actually care how many kids are raped, is that right?
    No, it is just not their role.
    Of course it is their role to advise the authorities of such people. It is everyone's role.
    Its not your role either
    Yes it is, see above.
    - so does that mean you don;t care how many
    kids are raped? Of course it doesn't.
    Irrelevant -see above.

    All people have a responsibility for ensuring that knowledge of a crie
    or even strong suspician that a crime has been committed are reported
    to the police, but the primary responsilibity to report claims was the >employer
    There is no such thing as a primary role to report any crime; we are all equally responsible.
    - there is also no suggestion that the union hid any
    information from anyone.
    I didn't say they did.

    Are you one of those people that think a defence attorney is often as
    guilty of the crime as the defendant?
    What a stupid thing to say, non sequitur and a childish attempt to insult. Another failure.
    What the Union said is certainly wrong they should not imply they have a lesses role in reporting crimes than anyone else.

    Tony

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to gblack@hnpl.net on Wednesday, March 16, 2016 12:10:50
    "george152" <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote in message news:XMudnXo4nNscwXXLnZ2dnUU7-aGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
    On 3/15/2016 4:28 PM, JohnO wrote:
    Yeah, right!

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/77825339/teachers-union-protected-robert-burrett--claim

    This discraceful sicko was protected by the NZEI.

    Oh, and registering teachers somehow helps? Clearly not.


    But he was a union member

    Had to be back then George. As it pays to be in this day and age thanks to politics of Richs glorious teachers union and all unions. Democracy at work
    in Richies eyes.

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Wednesday, March 16, 2016 12:08:40
    "Rich80105" <rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:o8lfebdpmoj4jca3r7ujpgc653ig8c5l8a@4ax.com...
    On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 23:44:39 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 20:28:55 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>wrote:

    Yeah, right!
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/77825339/teachers-union-protected-robert-burrett--claim

    This discraceful sicko was protected by the NZEI.

    Oh, and registering teachers somehow helps? Clearly not.

    Do you doubt that they, and the law, have learned a thing ot two since >>>1983 and 2001?
    Quote
    "Mills said it was the employer's role and legal obligation to report >>teachers
    where there were claims of incompetency or misconduct.
    "We are not in the role of reporting individual teachers, because this is >>clearly a board's responsibility."
    So they don't actually care how many kids are raped, is that right?
    No, it is just not their role.
    Its not your role either - so does that mean you don;t care how many
    kids are raped? Of course it doesn't.

    All people have a responsibility for ensuring that knowledge of a crie
    or even strong suspician that a crime has been committed are reported
    to the police, but the primary responsilibity to report claims was the employer - there is also no suggestion that the union hid any
    information from anyone.

    Are you one of those people that think a defence attorney is often as
    guilty of the crime as the defendant?


    Tony

    Do stop being a mendacious widdle marxist Rich. The teachers union knew of
    the pricks bent and protected him because that's what unions do. The don't
    give a stuff about the kids as long as teachers are protected from their own crimes. Just like your darling Labour party they protect criminals and let
    them continue their depradations!

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Wednesday, March 16, 2016 12:05:50
    "Rich80105" <rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:491feb1o1bsqism8rnii5cb8pgfbja4tre@4ax.com...
    On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 20:28:55 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Yeah, right!
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/77825339/teachers-union-protected-robert-burrett--claim

    This discraceful sicko was protected by the NZEI.

    Oh, and registering teachers somehow helps? Clearly not.

    Do you doubt that they, and the law, have learned a thing ot two since
    1983 and 2001?

    Once again Rich is happy the loopy left did nothing typical of the Trotsky loving twit!

    Pooh

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  • From morrisseybreen@gmail.com@3:770/3 to All on Friday, March 25, 2016 13:54:49
    So.... no registration will make things better, will it?

    Like unqualified doctors will be better medical practitioners, and unqualified engineers will build better buildings, as they did in Christchurch.

    Are you by any chance an ACT voter, JohnO?

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to morrisseybreen@gmail.com on Friday, March 25, 2016 23:21:23
    morrisseybreen@gmail.com wrote:
    So.... no registration will make things better, will it?

    Like unqualified doctors will be better medical practitioners, and unqualified >engineers will build better buildings, as they did in Christchurch.

    Are you by any chance an ACT voter, JohnO?
    Ironic isn't it that an unqualified and failed hack journalist like you can for the first time in decades drunkenly stumble on to something sensible to say (or have you been plagiarising again?).
    However the answer to your very silly question is almost certainly as irrelevant as the question itself!
    Happy Easter to the Israelis eh?
    Tony

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to Tony on Sunday, March 27, 2016 08:13:27
    On 3/26/2016 5:21 PM, Tony wrote:
    morrisseybreen@gmail.com wrote:
    So.... no registration will make things better, will it?

    Like unqualified doctors will be better medical practitioners, and unqualified
    engineers will build better buildings, as they did in Christchurch.

    Are you by any chance an ACT voter, JohnO?
    Ironic isn't it that an unqualified and failed hack journalist like you can
    for
    the first time in decades drunkenly stumble on to something sensible to say
    (or
    have you been plagiarising again?).
    However the answer to your very silly question is almost certainly as irrelevant as the question itself!
    Happy Easter to the Israelis eh?
    Tony

    His comment about 'unlicensed' engineers in Christchurch shows how
    little he has looked at the subject.
    Hint.
    Building firms employ licensed engineers.
    There is a claim that ONE person didn't have the correct papers.
    The Israelis do their own thing at 'Easter'
    Its the Passover and predates 'Easter' by centuries.
    Must drive morrisey mad :)

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to gblack@hnpl.net on Sunday, March 27, 2016 08:33:13
    On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 08:13:27 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    On 3/26/2016 5:21 PM, Tony wrote:
    morrisseybreen@gmail.com wrote:
    So.... no registration will make things better, will it?

    Like unqualified doctors will be better medical practitioners, and unqualified
    engineers will build better buildings, as they did in Christchurch.

    Are you by any chance an ACT voter, JohnO?
    Ironic isn't it that an unqualified and failed hack journalist like you can for
    the first time in decades drunkenly stumble on to something sensible to say (or
    have you been plagiarising again?).
    However the answer to your very silly question is almost certainly as
    irrelevant as the question itself!
    Happy Easter to the Israelis eh?
    Tony

    His comment about 'unlicensed' engineers in Christchurch shows how
    little he has looked at the subject.

    So you don't believe in a free market then george. Certainly
    regulation does ot always work, but its good that those regulations
    exist. How do you feel about unqualified teachers, george?

    Hint.
    Building firms employ licensed engineers.
    There is a claim that ONE person didn't have the correct papers.
    The Israelis do their own thing at 'Easter'
    Its the Passover and predates 'Easter' by centuries.
    Must drive morrisey mad :)
    Why would Morrissey be concerned? Tony raised the issue of the
    Israelis, not Morrissey

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Saturday, March 26, 2016 16:45:19
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 08:13:27 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    On 3/26/2016 5:21 PM, Tony wrote:
    morrisseybreen@gmail.com wrote:
    So.... no registration will make things better, will it?

    Like unqualified doctors will be better medical practitioners, and >>>>unqualified
    engineers will build better buildings, as they did in Christchurch.

    Are you by any chance an ACT voter, JohnO?
    Ironic isn't it that an unqualified and failed hack journalist like you can >>>for
    the first time in decades drunkenly stumble on to something sensible to say >>>(or
    have you been plagiarising again?).
    However the answer to your very silly question is almost certainly as
    irrelevant as the question itself!
    Happy Easter to the Israelis eh?
    Tony

    His comment about 'unlicensed' engineers in Christchurch shows how
    little he has looked at the subject.

    So you don't believe in a free market then george. Certainly
    regulation does ot always work, but its good that those regulations
    exist. How do you feel about unqualified teachers, george?

    Hint.
    Building firms employ licensed engineers.
    There is a claim that ONE person didn't have the correct papers.
    The Israelis do their own thing at 'Easter'
    Its the Passover and predates 'Easter' by centuries.
    Must drive morrisey mad :)
    Why would Morrissey be concerned? Tony raised the issue of the
    Israelis, not Morrissey
    The Israelies are not an "issue" Rich. You completey misunderstood my implication - don't worry not everybody would have got it!
    Tony

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Monday, March 28, 2016 11:34:02
    "Tony" <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote in message news:part1of1.1.lk%230AkC4gGoAKQ@ue.ph...
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 08:13:27 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    On 3/26/2016 5:21 PM, Tony wrote:
    morrisseybreen@gmail.com wrote:
    So.... no registration will make things better, will it?

    Like unqualified doctors will be better medical practitioners, and >>>>>unqualified
    engineers will build better buildings, as they did in Christchurch.

    Are you by any chance an ACT voter, JohnO?
    Ironic isn't it that an unqualified and failed hack journalist like you >>>> can
    for
    the first time in decades drunkenly stumble on to something sensible to >>>> say
    (or
    have you been plagiarising again?).
    However the answer to your very silly question is almost certainly as
    irrelevant as the question itself!
    Happy Easter to the Israelis eh?
    Tony

    His comment about 'unlicensed' engineers in Christchurch shows how
    little he has looked at the subject.

    So you don't believe in a free market then george. Certainly
    regulation does ot always work, but its good that those regulations
    exist. How do you feel about unqualified teachers, george?

    Hint.
    Building firms employ licensed engineers.
    There is a claim that ONE person didn't have the correct papers.
    The Israelis do their own thing at 'Easter'
    Its the Passover and predates 'Easter' by centuries.
    Must drive morrisey mad :)
    Why would Morrissey be concerned? Tony raised the issue of the
    Israelis, not Morrissey
    The Israelies are not an "issue" Rich. You completey misunderstood my implication - don't worry not everybody would have got it!
    Tony


    Tony expecting the likes of Rich or Mowisy to comprehend almost anything is like believing any political party is clean.

    Pooh

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