• Family of BOP gunman must think they are really special

    From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Wednesday, March 09, 2016 12:39:00
    Given their posturing and criticism of police.

    FFS it was a dangerous situation and they think the cops should just let them waltz in and run the show?

    "Tikanga Maori" my arse. Treat the scrote like any other dangerous criminal I say.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11603059

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  • From Rob@3:770/3 to JohnO on Thursday, March 10, 2016 13:28:23
    On 10/03/2016 9:39 AM, JohnO wrote:
    Given their posturing and criticism of police.

    FFS it was a dangerous situation and they think the cops should just let them
    waltz in and run the show?

    "Tikanga Maori" my arse. Treat the scrote like any other dangerous criminal I
    say.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11603059

    I have lived in a country where the police would have riddled the place
    with bullets. The family should be relieved that our police do not
    behave that way and prefer to keep people alive.

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to dot nz on Thursday, March 10, 2016 16:10:49
    On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 20:31:33 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    Given their posturing and criticism of police.

    FFS it was a dangerous situation and they think the cops should just let them >>waltz in and run the show?

    "Tikanga Maori" my arse. Treat the scrote like any other dangerous criminal I >>say.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11603059 >Bullshit stuff. Whatever next? A helicopter gets shot at, 4 cops get shot and >apparently the cops should now negotiate with the family. Yeah right!
    Tony

    Its just an anti-Maori beat-up by JohnO - there is no evidence that
    the police acted at all inappropriately; there are occasions
    whenfamily can be useful, but that does not appear to have been the
    case here. Whether the person arrested is a scrote or a relative of
    JohnO is irrelevant - the police did not need JohnO's advice.

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  • From Fred@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, March 10, 2016 16:16:19
    On 10/03/2016 4:10 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 20:31:33 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    Given their posturing and criticism of police.

    FFS it was a dangerous situation and they think the cops should just let them
    waltz in and run the show?

    "Tikanga Maori" my arse. Treat the scrote like any other dangerous criminal
    I
    say.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11603059
    Bullshit stuff. Whatever next? A helicopter gets shot at, 4 cops get shot and
    apparently the cops should now negotiate with the family. Yeah right!
    Tony

    Its just an anti-Maori beat-up by JohnO - there is no evidence that
    the police acted at all inappropriately; there are occasions
    whenfamily can be useful, but that does not appear to have been the
    case here. Whether the person arrested is a scrote or a relative of
    JohnO is irrelevant - the police did not need JohnO's advice.


    The resident paranoid fuckwit strikes again. Fiths out of control.

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to JohnO on Wednesday, March 09, 2016 20:31:33
    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    Given their posturing and criticism of police.

    FFS it was a dangerous situation and they think the cops should just let them >waltz in and run the show?

    "Tikanga Maori" my arse. Treat the scrote like any other dangerous criminal I >say.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11603059 Bullshit stuff. Whatever next? A helicopter gets shot at, 4 cops get shot and apparently the cops should now negotiate with the family. Yeah right!
    Tony

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Wednesday, March 09, 2016 21:45:36
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 20:31:33 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    Given their posturing and criticism of police.

    FFS it was a dangerous situation and they think the cops should just let >>>them
    waltz in and run the show?

    "Tikanga Maori" my arse. Treat the scrote like any other dangerous criminal >>>I
    say.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11603059 >>Bullshit stuff. Whatever next? A helicopter gets shot at, 4 cops get shot and >>apparently the cops should now negotiate with the family. Yeah right!
    Tony

    Its just an anti-Maori beat-up by JohnO - there is no evidence that
    the police acted at all inappropriately; there are occasions
    whenfamily can be useful, but that does not appear to have been the
    case here. Whether the person arrested is a scrote or a relative of
    JohnO is irrelevant - the police did not need JohnO's advice.
    You have obviously not read the Herald article or if you did you failed to understand it.
    It is not a Maori issue it is a questions of who are the experts - I believe the police are, not the family and that is what the family are arguing about according to the Herald.
    Read it please!
    Tony

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  • From Fred@3:770/3 to Tony on Thursday, March 10, 2016 17:05:00
    On 10/03/2016 4:45 p.m., Tony wrote:
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 20:31:33 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    Given their posturing and criticism of police.

    FFS it was a dangerous situation and they think the cops should just let >>>> them
    waltz in and run the show?

    "Tikanga Maori" my arse. Treat the scrote like any other dangerous criminal
    I
    say.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11603059
    Bullshit stuff. Whatever next? A helicopter gets shot at, 4 cops get shot and
    apparently the cops should now negotiate with the family. Yeah right!
    Tony

    Its just an anti-Maori beat-up by JohnO - there is no evidence that
    the police acted at all inappropriately; there are occasions
    whenfamily can be useful, but that does not appear to have been the
    case here. Whether the person arrested is a scrote or a relative of
    JohnO is irrelevant - the police did not need JohnO's advice.
    You have obviously not read the Herald article or if you did you failed to understand it.
    It is not a Maori issue it is a questions of who are the experts - I believe the police are, not the family and that is what the family are arguing about according to the Herald.
    Read it please!
    Tony

    As you know Rich has no comprehension ability. This is just another
    example. It's a result of fiths.

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  • From BR@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, March 10, 2016 17:23:07
    On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:39:00 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Given their posturing and criticism of police.

    FFS it was a dangerous situation and they think the cops should just let them waltz in and run the show?

    "Tikanga Maori" my arse. Treat the scrote like any other dangerous criminal I say.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11603059

    They should have shot the bastard dead when they had the chance.

    Bill.

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to dot nz on Thursday, March 10, 2016 22:13:43
    On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 21:45:12 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 20:31:33 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    Given their posturing and criticism of police.

    FFS it was a dangerous situation and they think the cops should just let >>>>them
    waltz in and run the show?

    "Tikanga Maori" my arse. Treat the scrote like any other dangerous criminal >>>>I
    say.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11603059 >>>Bullshit stuff. Whatever next? A helicopter gets shot at, 4 cops get shot and
    apparently the cops should now negotiate with the family. Yeah right! >>>Tony

    Its just an anti-Maori beat-up by JohnO - there is no evidence that
    the police acted at all inappropriately; there are occasions
    whenfamily can be useful, but that does not appear to have been the
    case here. Whether the person arrested is a scrote or a relative of
    JohnO is irrelevant - the police did not need JohnO's advice.
    You have obviously not read the Herald article or if you did you failed to >understand it.
    It is not a Maori issue it is a questions of who are the experts - I believe >the police are, not the family and that is what the family are arguing about >according to the Herald.
    Read it please!
    Tony
    I was responding to the comments by JohnO - the article does not ask
    our system to "Treat the scrote like any other dangerous criminal", or
    refer to Maori in such a perjoritive tone. Regardless of the
    background of an offender,family will be concerned - treat people like
    people first and we will all be better off without the racist bigots
    spinning human frailties to create friction where it is not needed.

    I agree with you (and the article) that it is not a Maori issue as
    JohnO was trying to make it - the police were clearly in control while
    not going out of their way top slag a concerned family. Less racism
    and prejudice from posters to nz.general is effectively what I was
    asking for.

    Read the comment from JohnO, Tony!

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to buggeroff@spammer.com on Thursday, March 10, 2016 22:15:24
    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:23:07 +1300, BR <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:39:00 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Given their posturing and criticism of police.

    FFS it was a dangerous situation and they think the cops should just let them
    waltz in and run the show?

    "Tikanga Maori" my arse. Treat the scrote like any other dangerous criminal I
    say.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11603059

    They should have shot the bastard dead when they had the chance.

    Bill.

    That's no way to talk about JohnO - sure he was wrong, but he does not
    desertve that sort of punishment - let us keep offences in
    persepctive.

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  • From Liberty@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Friday, March 11, 2016 00:09:29
    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:13:43 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:




    I agree with you (and the article) that it is not a Maori issue as
    JohnO was trying to make it - the police were clearly in control while
    not going out of their way top slag a concerned family. Less racism
    and prejudice from posters to nz.general is effectively what I was
    asking for.

    Read the comment from JohnO, Tony!
    Rich are a right hypocrite
    Not once have you every condemned Winston for his bigoted ranting.

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  • From BR@3:770/3 to All on Friday, March 11, 2016 05:47:58
    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:15:24 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:23:07 +1300, BR <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:39:00 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Given their posturing and criticism of police.

    FFS it was a dangerous situation and they think the cops should just let them waltz in and run the show?

    "Tikanga Maori" my arse. Treat the scrote like any other dangerous criminal I say.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11603059

    They should have shot the bastard dead when they had the chance.

    Bill.

    That's no way to talk about JohnO - sure he was wrong, but he does not >desertve that sort of punishment - let us keep offences in
    persepctive.

    Who's talking about JohnO?

    I was talking about you.

    Bill.

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to Rob on Friday, March 11, 2016 08:09:51
    On 3/10/2016 1:28 PM, Rob wrote:

    I have lived in a country where the police would have riddled the place
    with bullets. The family should be relieved that our police do not
    behave that way and prefer to keep people alive.

    That could be most countries in the world
    Having heard the police apologist this morning there's a couple of
    points he missed.
    Every cop at that incident was armed with high powered rifle and hand
    gun. These are carried in the car boots.
    And isn't the presence of a LAV just a little over the top.
    Oh and how do crims get firearms he asked.
    Wakey wakey
    They're crims, they steal them...

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Thursday, March 10, 2016 13:11:40
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 21:45:12 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 20:31:33 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    Given their posturing and criticism of police.

    FFS it was a dangerous situation and they think the cops should just let >>>>>them
    waltz in and run the show?

    "Tikanga Maori" my arse. Treat the scrote like any other dangerous >>>>>criminal
    I
    say.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11603059 >>>>Bullshit stuff. Whatever next? A helicopter gets shot at, 4 cops get shot >>>>and
    apparently the cops should now negotiate with the family. Yeah right! >>>>Tony

    Its just an anti-Maori beat-up by JohnO - there is no evidence that
    the police acted at all inappropriately; there are occasions
    whenfamily can be useful, but that does not appear to have been the
    case here. Whether the person arrested is a scrote or a relative of
    JohnO is irrelevant - the police did not need JohnO's advice.
    You have obviously not read the Herald article or if you did you failed to >>understand it.
    It is not a Maori issue it is a questions of who are the experts - I believe >>the police are, not the family and that is what the family are arguing about >>according to the Herald.
    Read it please!
    Tony
    I was responding to the comments by JohnO - the article does not ask
    our system to "Treat the scrote like any other dangerous criminal", or
    refer to Maori in such a perjoritive tone. Regardless of the
    background of an offender,family will be concerned - treat people like
    people first and we will all be better off without the racist bigots
    spinning human frailties to create friction where it is not needed.

    I agree with you (and the article) that it is not a Maori issue as
    JohnO was trying to make it - the police were clearly in control while
    not going out of their way top slag a concerned family. Less racism
    and prejudice from posters to nz.general is effectively what I was
    asking for.

    Read the comment from JohnO, Tony!
    I did but you wrote to me! Why?
    You should state your concerns to JohnO not me!
    Stupid post.

    Tony

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to All on Friday, March 11, 2016 08:12:49
    On 3/11/2016 5:47 AM, BR wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:15:24 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:23:07 +1300, BR <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:39:00 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Given their posturing and criticism of police.

    FFS it was a dangerous situation and they think the cops should just let them waltz in and run the show?

    "Tikanga Maori" my arse. Treat the scrote like any other dangerous criminal I say.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11603059

    They should have shot the bastard dead when they had the chance.

    Bill.

    That's no way to talk about JohnO - sure he was wrong, but he does not
    desertve that sort of punishment - let us keep offences in
    persepctive.

    Who's talking about JohnO?

    I was talking about you.

    Bill.

    rich attempts to move the subject onto his favorite hates.
    Its all Keys fault

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to I never on Thursday, March 10, 2016 11:21:38
    On Thursday, 10 March 2016 16:10:54 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 20:31:33 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    Given their posturing and criticism of police.

    FFS it was a dangerous situation and they think the cops should just let
    them
    waltz in and run the show?

    "Tikanga Maori" my arse. Treat the scrote like any other dangerous criminal
    I
    say.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11603059 >Bullshit stuff. Whatever next? A helicopter gets shot at, 4 cops get shot
    and
    apparently the cops should now negotiate with the family. Yeah right!
    Tony

    Its just an anti-Maori beat-up by JohnO - there is no evidence that

    It is not anti-Maori to suggest that Maori "tikanga" is of no special benefit in this case.

    the police acted at all inappropriately

    I never said they did, you stupid litte man. The scrote's family did. Go back to school and learn to read.

    ; there are occasions
    whenfamily can be useful, but that does not appear to have been the
    case here. Whether the person arrested is a scrote or a relative of
    JohnO is irrelevant - the police did not need JohnO's advice.

    And I never gave the police any advice, you stupid illiterate little man.

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  • From Liberty@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Friday, March 11, 2016 09:17:16
    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:15:24 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:23:07 +1300, BR <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:39:00 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Given their posturing and criticism of police.

    FFS it was a dangerous situation and they think the cops should just let them waltz in and run the show?

    "Tikanga Maori" my arse. Treat the scrote like any other dangerous criminal I say.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11603059

    They should have shot the bastard dead when they had the chance.

    Bill.

    That's no way to talk about JohnO
    Bill wasn't talking about JohnO. You would have to be a bit thick do draw that conclusion.


    - sure he was wrong,

    No he wasn't

    but he does not
    desertve that sort of punishment - let us keep offences in
    persepctive.
    He was keeping persepctive.
    He could of killed 4 police and more if he had downed the chopper.

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  • From Fred@3:770/3 to All on Friday, March 11, 2016 10:13:49
    On 10/03/2016 10:15 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:23:07 +1300, BR <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:39:00 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Given their posturing and criticism of police.

    FFS it was a dangerous situation and they think the cops should just let them waltz in and run the show?

    "Tikanga Maori" my arse. Treat the scrote like any other dangerous criminal
    I say.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11603059

    They should have shot the bastard dead when they had the chance.

    Bill.

    That's no way to talk about JohnO - sure he was wrong, but he does not desertve that sort of punishment - let us keep offences in
    persepctive.

    You are plainly mad if you think that's what he means. Unless of course
    you think that's funny - in which case you're plainly mad.

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Friday, March 11, 2016 09:41:32
    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 00:09:29 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:13:43 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:




    I agree with you (and the article) that it is not a Maori issue as
    JohnO was trying to make it - the police were clearly in control while
    not going out of their way top slag a concerned family. Less racism
    and prejudice from posters to nz.general is effectively what I was
    asking for.

    Read the comment from JohnO, Tony!
    Rich are a right hypocrite
    Not once have you every condemned Winston for his bigoted ranting.

    What are you on about? The man arrested was called Warren, not
    Winston.

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  • From Anymouse@3:770/3 to All on Friday, March 11, 2016 10:15:00
    Rich80105 wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 00:09:29 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:13:43 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:




    I agree with you (and the article) that it is not a Maori issue as
    JohnO was trying to make it - the police were clearly in control while >>>not going out of their way top slag a concerned family. Less racism
    and prejudice from posters to nz.general is effectively what I was
    asking for.

    Read the comment from JohnO, Tony!
    Rich are a right hypocrite
    Not once have you every condemned Winston for his bigoted ranting.

    What are you on about? The man arrested was called Warren, not
    Winston.

    Yet another heavy-handed attempt at 4th form humour. You should leave the jokes to others.

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  • From Liberty@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Friday, March 11, 2016 11:43:28
    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:41:32 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 00:09:29 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:13:43 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>



    I agree with you (and the article) that it is not a Maori issue as
    JohnO was trying to make it - the police were clearly in control while >>>not going out of their way top slag a concerned family. Less racism
    and prejudice from posters to nz.general is effectively what I was
    asking for.

    Read the comment from JohnO, Tony!
    Rich are a right hypocrite
    Not once have you every condemned Winston for his bigoted ranting.

    What are you on about? The man arrested was called Warren, not
    Winston.

    You are thick or being deliberately obtuse.

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Friday, March 11, 2016 16:26:35
    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:43:28 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:41:32 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 00:09:29 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:13:43 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>



    I agree with you (and the article) that it is not a Maori issue as >>>>JohnO was trying to make it - the police were clearly in control while >>>>not going out of their way top slag a concerned family. Less racism
    and prejudice from posters to nz.general is effectively what I was >>>>asking for.

    Read the comment from JohnO, Tony!
    Rich are a right hypocrite
    Not once have you every condemned Winston for his bigoted ranting.

    What are you on about? The man arrested was called Warren, not
    Winston.

    You are thick or being deliberately obtuse.

    Give a cite for any comment by Winston on this story then - or were
    you just trying to spin away from a subject that had become
    embarrassing for you?

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  • From Anymouse@3:770/3 to All on Friday, March 11, 2016 17:40:18
    Rich80105 wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:43:28 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:41:32 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 00:09:29 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:13:43 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:




    I agree with you (and the article) that it is not a Maori issue as >>>>>JohnO was trying to make it - the police were clearly in control while >>>>>not going out of their way top slag a concerned family. Less racism >>>>>and prejudice from posters to nz.general is effectively what I was >>>>>asking for.

    Read the comment from JohnO, Tony!
    Rich are a right hypocrite
    Not once have you every condemned Winston for his bigoted ranting.

    What are you on about? The man arrested was called Warren, not
    Winston.

    You are thick or being deliberately obtuse.

    Give a cite for any comment by Winston on this story then - or were
    you just trying to spin away from a subject that had become
    embarrassing for you?

    You are entitled of course to portray yourself as being as thick as you
    wish. But you are not entitled to assume that the rest of us are, too.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Liberty@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Friday, March 11, 2016 20:45:38
    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:26:35 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:43:28 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:41:32 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>
    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 00:09:29 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:13:43 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>



    I agree with you (and the article) that it is not a Maori issue as >>>>>JohnO was trying to make it - the police were clearly in control while >>>>>not going out of their way top slag a concerned family. Less racism >>>>>and prejudice from posters to nz.general is effectively what I was >>>>>asking for.

    Read the comment from JohnO, Tony!
    Rich are a right hypocrite
    Not once have you every condemned Winston for his bigoted ranting.

    What are you on about? The man arrested was called Warren, not
    Winston.

    You are thick or being deliberately obtuse.

    Give a cite for any comment by Winston on this story then - or were
    you just trying to spin away from a subject that had become
    embarrassing for you?

    I didn't say it related to this story.
    I said "Not once have you every"
    Every could be years
    Winston has been spiting venom on Asians for years .
    Knowing full well winding up bigoted Rednecks makes it a lot easy
    to get seats in Parliament.
    The old and the infirm+ Disillusioned labour voters + Rednecks makes 5% a easy target

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Friday, March 11, 2016 23:20:40
    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 20:45:38 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:26:35 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:43:28 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:41:32 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>
    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 00:09:29 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:13:43 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:




    I agree with you (and the article) that it is not a Maori issue as >>>>>>JohnO was trying to make it - the police were clearly in control while >>>>>>not going out of their way top slag a concerned family. Less racism >>>>>>and prejudice from posters to nz.general is effectively what I was >>>>>>asking for.

    Read the comment from JohnO, Tony!
    Rich are a right hypocrite
    Not once have you every condemned Winston for his bigoted ranting.

    What are you on about? The man arrested was called Warren, not
    Winston.

    You are thick or being deliberately obtuse.

    Give a cite for any comment by Winston on this story then - or were
    you just trying to spin away from a subject that had become
    embarrassing for you?

    I didn't say it related to this story.
    I said "Not once have you every"
    Every could be years
    Winston has been spiting venom on Asians for years .
    Knowing full well winding up bigoted Rednecks makes it a lot easy
    to get seats in Parliament.
    The old and the infirm+ Disillusioned labour voters + Rednecks makes 5% a easy target

    So indeed yur comment was totally unrelated to the recent arrest, just
    as I thought - and of course unsupported by any cite - for all I know
    just another meaningless slur from a wanna-be dirty tricks accolyte.

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to Anymouse on Saturday, March 12, 2016 08:01:05
    On 3/11/2016 5:40 PM, Anymouse wrote:

    You are entitled of course to portray yourself as being as thick as you
    wish. But you are not entitled to assume that the rest of us are, too.


    rich has just about reached the center of incomprehensibility...
    Best you killfile him so he can implode without harming humans

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Liberty@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Saturday, March 12, 2016 13:22:56
    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 23:20:40 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 20:45:38 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:26:35 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>
    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:43:28 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:41:32 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>
    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 00:09:29 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com> >>>>>wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:13:43 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:




    I agree with you (and the article) that it is not a Maori issue as >>>>>>>JohnO was trying to make it - the police were clearly in control while >>>>>>>not going out of their way top slag a concerned family. Less racism >>>>>>>and prejudice from posters to nz.general is effectively what I was >>>>>>>asking for.

    Read the comment from JohnO, Tony!
    Rich are a right hypocrite
    Not once have you every condemned Winston for his bigoted ranting.

    What are you on about? The man arrested was called Warren, not >>>>>Winston.

    You are thick or being deliberately obtuse.

    Give a cite for any comment by Winston on this story then - or were
    you just trying to spin away from a subject that had become
    embarrassing for you?

    I didn't say it related to this story.
    I said "Not once have you every"
    Every could be years
    Winston has been spiting venom on Asians for years .
    Knowing full well winding up bigoted Rednecks makes it a lot easy
    to get seats in Parliament.
    The old and the infirm+ Disillusioned labour voters + Rednecks makes 5% a
    easy target

    So indeed yur comment was totally unrelated to the recent arrest, just
    as I thought - and of course unsupported by any cite - for all I know
    just another meaningless slur from a wanna-be dirty tricks accolyte.

    Wrong you implied JohnO was a racist Bigot.
    I was only pointing out that you have selected morality.
    Winston has been racist bigot for years. Have you ever taken Winston to task.
    no. Why not? It because you are a hypocrite.
    You claim no cite. Get real haven't you read a paper, Listen to the radio. watched the TV news and watched Parliament in the last 20 years. Maybe
    you haven't After all it would be tricky when
    you head is up your arse.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to gblack@hnpl.net on Sunday, March 13, 2016 20:07:52
    "george152" <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote in message news:bIOdnfL35YEdW3zLnZ2dnUU7-a3NnZ2d@giganews.com...
    On 3/10/2016 1:28 PM, Rob wrote:

    I have lived in a country where the police would have riddled the place
    with bullets. The family should be relieved that our police do not
    behave that way and prefer to keep people alive.

    That could be most countries in the world
    Having heard the police apologist this morning there's a couple of points
    he missed.
    Every cop at that incident was armed with high powered rifle and hand gun. These are carried in the car boots.
    And isn't the presence of a LAV just a little over the top.
    Oh and how do crims get firearms he asked.
    Wakey wakey
    They're crims, they steal them...


    or import/smuggle them into the country. The problem is the law only applys
    to law abiding citizens. Not the Labour voting scum who choose not to.

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Sunday, March 13, 2016 20:09:53
    "Rich80105" <rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:m8p1ebl2ems4dqh2g6h1gu09eqhq1n0t5e@4ax.com...
    On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 20:31:33 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    Given their posturing and criticism of police.

    FFS it was a dangerous situation and they think the cops should just let >>>them
    waltz in and run the show?

    "Tikanga Maori" my arse. Treat the scrote like any other dangerous >>>criminal I
    say.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11603059 >>Bullshit stuff. Whatever next? A helicopter gets shot at, 4 cops get shot >>and
    apparently the cops should now negotiate with the family. Yeah right!
    Tony

    Its just an anti-Maori beat-up by JohnO - there is no evidence that
    the police acted at all inappropriately; there are occasions
    whenfamily can be useful, but that does not appear to have been the
    case here. Whether the person arrested is a scrote or a relative of
    JohnO is irrelevant - the police did not need JohnO's advice.

    BULLSHIT Rich. Not JohnO's fault the dumb bastard is maori and so desperate
    to stay out of jail he shoots cops. Never mind though. Hopefully the judge
    will give himm a blody long stretch to help the idiot get over his fear.

    Pooh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to Anymouse on Sunday, March 13, 2016 20:12:48
    "Anymouse" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message news:nbsnur$bja$1@dont-email.me...
    Rich80105 wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 00:09:29 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:13:43 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:




    I agree with you (and the article) that it is not a Maori issue as >>>>JohnO was trying to make it - the police were clearly in control while >>>>not going out of their way top slag a concerned family. Less racism
    and prejudice from posters to nz.general is effectively what I was >>>>asking for.

    Read the comment from JohnO, Tony!
    Rich are a right hypocrite
    Not once have you every condemned Winston for his bigoted ranting.

    What are you on about? The man arrested was called Warren, not
    Winston.

    Yet another heavy-handed attempt at 4th form humour. You should leave the jokes to others.

    Pity is it wasn't an attempt at humour by Rich. It's how the dumb scrote
    sees the world. National bad, all other partys not supporting them good :)

    Pooh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Sunday, March 13, 2016 20:11:35
    "Rich80105" <rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:6vm3eb1atuio7oso5uek54pr425mgt4nr5@4ax.com...
    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 00:09:29 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:13:43 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:




    I agree with you (and the article) that it is not a Maori issue as
    JohnO was trying to make it - the police were clearly in control while >>>not going out of their way top slag a concerned family. Less racism
    and prejudice from posters to nz.general is effectively what I was
    asking for.

    Read the comment from JohnO, Tony!
    Rich are a right hypocrite
    Not once have you every condemned Winston for his bigoted ranting.

    What are you on about? The man arrested was called Warren, not
    Winston.

    He's on about your continued inability to comprehend anything you dumb
    scrote, Rich!

    Pooh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Sunday, March 13, 2016 20:14:13
    "Rich80105" <rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ole4ebp5cvt4ens0q097vh7taa0qrm9i7f@4ax.com...
    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:43:28 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:41:32 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 00:09:29 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:13:43 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:




    I agree with you (and the article) that it is not a Maori issue as >>>>>JohnO was trying to make it - the police were clearly in control while >>>>>not going out of their way top slag a concerned family. Less racism >>>>>and prejudice from posters to nz.general is effectively what I was >>>>>asking for.

    Read the comment from JohnO, Tony!
    Rich are a right hypocrite
    Not once have you every condemned Winston for his bigoted ranting.

    What are you on about? The man arrested was called Warren, not
    Winston.

    You are thick or being deliberately obtuse.

    Give a cite for any comment by Winston on this story then - or were
    you just trying to spin away from a subject that had become
    embarrassing for you?

    The only person in the ng this story is becoming embarassing for is YOU
    Rich. But then guess that's just the usual when a dumb labour supporting
    scrote like you is concerned Rich.

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to buggeroff@spammer.com on Sunday, March 13, 2016 20:18:51
    "BR" <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote in message news:hkt1ebhh9sgi94fvdg7ir39f45j8nn1klg@4ax.com...
    On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:39:00 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Given their posturing and criticism of police.

    FFS it was a dangerous situation and they think the cops should just let >>them waltz in and run the show?

    "Tikanga Maori" my arse. Treat the scrote like any other dangerous
    criminal I say.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11603059

    They should have shot the bastard dead when they had the chance.

    Bill.

    Followed by the dumb cunt protesting the scote up north handn't shot enough police.

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Sunday, March 13, 2016 20:18:05
    "JohnO" <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote in message news:5daeb4e7-4099-4607-a67f-e4bfca374e86@googlegroups.com...
    On Thursday, 10 March 2016 16:10:54 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 20:31:33 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    Given their posturing and criticism of police.

    FFS it was a dangerous situation and they think the cops should just
    let them
    waltz in and run the show?

    "Tikanga Maori" my arse. Treat the scrote like any other dangerous
    criminal I
    say.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11603059
    Bullshit stuff. Whatever next? A helicopter gets shot at, 4 cops get
    shot and
    apparently the cops should now negotiate with the family. Yeah right!
    Tony

    Its just an anti-Maori beat-up by JohnO - there is no evidence that

    It is not anti-Maori to suggest that Maori "tikanga" is of no special
    benefit in this case.

    the police acted at all inappropriately

    I never said they did, you stupid litte man. The scrote's family did. Go
    back to school and learn to read.

    ; there are occasions
    whenfamily can be useful, but that does not appear to have been the
    case here. Whether the person arrested is a scrote or a relative of
    JohnO is irrelevant - the police did not need JohnO's advice.

    And I never gave the police any advice, you stupid illiterate little man.


    Go easy on the non-comprehending Rich. May not be his fault he has a mental condition that precludes him understanding anything not stated by the Labour party.

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to Liberty on Sunday, March 13, 2016 20:16:17
    "Liberty" <liberty48@live.com> wrote in message news:o8o6eblu6h0vgge9k57nmf9r3vt2qpi86c@4ax.com...
    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 23:20:40 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 20:45:38 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:26:35 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:43:28 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:41:32 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 00:09:29 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com> >>>>>>wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:13:43 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>wrote:




    I agree with you (and the article) that it is not a Maori issue as >>>>>>>>JohnO was trying to make it - the police were clearly in control >>>>>>>>while
    not going out of their way top slag a concerned family. Less racism >>>>>>>>and prejudice from posters to nz.general is effectively what I was >>>>>>>>asking for.

    Read the comment from JohnO, Tony!
    Rich are a right hypocrite
    Not once have you every condemned Winston for his bigoted ranting. >>>>>>
    What are you on about? The man arrested was called Warren, not >>>>>>Winston.

    You are thick or being deliberately obtuse.

    Give a cite for any comment by Winston on this story then - or were
    you just trying to spin away from a subject that had become >>>>embarrassing for you?

    I didn't say it related to this story.
    I said "Not once have you every"
    Every could be years
    Winston has been spiting venom on Asians for years .
    Knowing full well winding up bigoted Rednecks makes it a lot easy
    to get seats in Parliament.
    The old and the infirm+ Disillusioned labour voters + Rednecks makes >>>5% a easy target

    So indeed yur comment was totally unrelated to the recent arrest, just
    as I thought - and of course unsupported by any cite - for all I know
    just another meaningless slur from a wanna-be dirty tricks accolyte.

    Wrong you implied JohnO was a racist Bigot.
    I was only pointing out that you have selected morality.
    Winston has been racist bigot for years. Have you ever taken Winston to task.
    no. Why not? It because you are a hypocrite.
    You claim no cite. Get real haven't you read a paper, Listen to the
    radio. watched the TV news and watched Parliament in the last 20 years. Maybe
    you haven't After all it would be tricky when
    you head is up your arse.

    Lib it's easier to get sense out of a petulent four year old than it is to
    get it from Rich. Give up and stop poking the twit with pointy sticks.

    Pooh

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