https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11962099

Extracts :

"Domestically, the effects of sea level rise will be a growing issue,
and the costs of adapting could be large, with more frequent floods,
and droughts that damage agricultural production.

Gross greenhouse gas emissions have climbed by around 25 per cent
since 1990. When you look at net greenhouse gas emissions, the
increase has been around 64 per cent."

____

"We have one of the highest car-ownership rates in the world and use a
lot of fossil fuel to power industrial plant.

Both net and gross numbers tell us that New Zealand has done nothing
to address the causes of climate change."
____

"The majority of the growth in our emissions over the past 25 years
has come from transport and industry."
____

"Of course the global profile of emissions is dominated by the big
emitters.

But on a per-capita basis, New Zealand is one of the big emitters.

We are in the top 10 globally, per head of population, and there is as
much of an onus on us as on the Chinese or the Americans to reduce our emissions."
_____

"Because there's been no political leadership, most people probably
give it very little thought and are more apathetic than concerned or dismissive."
_____
"That aside, does New Zealand still have a sceptic problem? Are there
still too many Kiwis who reject the scientific consensus?

There are some, but I suspect it's a minority.

I receive regular emails telling me I have the science wrong, but they
come from a very small number of individuals."

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On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 11:32:34 AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11962099 <typical garbage from the supporters of the climate change scam snipped>

Sea levels have been on the rise for the last 20,000 years dumbo! Just because idiots like this one and the rest of loopy left can't comprehend this doesn't make any of their bogus revelations relevant! He's like you Rich and sucks in every bit of the
lefts bullshit science from the likes of Labour/Green and spews it out like the
mindless puppet he and you are!

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On 2018-01-15, Rich80105 <rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

I receive regular emails telling me I have the science wrong, but they
come from a very small number of individuals."

Take a quiet look at history, it will show that the majority often got it
plan wrong. In todays dumbed down, spin up world, getting mass "agreement"
it is hardly surprising that most of the climate change is that which is
needed to keep people rich.

The sun was thought to go around the earth, until some chap saw moons going around Jupiter, so the Earth was not the centre of all the planets. Not a
good idea to suggest such a thing!

Scientist can not always agree on a theory/explanation and often when they
do Mother Time comes along and says, you got it wrong.

The fact that ice ages came and went long before humans were any great
number on this planet is something which does fit with the idea of burning fossil fuels is the bee all and end all of climate change.

So back to the Sun. It in all probabilty has more inflence on our weather
than any other factor.

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On 16 Jan 2018 04:40:38 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> wrote:

On 2018-01-15, Rich80105 <rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

I receive regular emails telling me I have the science wrong, but they
come from a very small number of individuals."

Take a quiet look at history, it will show that the majority often got it >plan wrong. In todays dumbed down, spin up world, getting mass "agreement"
it is hardly surprising that most of the climate change is that which is >needed to keep people rich.

Is there anything that he says that you disagree with, Gordon?
Scientists are a relatively small group, but they do appear to have a
high degree of agreement over these matters.

The sun was thought to go around the earth, until some chap saw moons going >around Jupiter, so the Earth was not the centre of all the planets. Not a >good idea to suggest such a thing!

I am not aware of anyone suggesting that recently.

Scientist can not always agree on a theory/explanation and often when they
do Mother Time comes along and says, you got it wrong.

I suspect that as regards the sun going around he earth, those few
scientists who had investigated knew that the regious dogma was wrong,
but were careful not to say so! Are you aware of any threats that
still exist preventing scientists from telling us their conclusions?

The fact that ice ages came and went long before humans were any great
number on this planet is something which does fit with the idea of burning >fossil fuels is the bee all and end all of climate change.

So back to the Sun. It in all probabilty has more inflence on our weather >than any other factor.

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On 2018-01-16, bowesjohn02@gmail.com <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 11:32:34 AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11962099
<typical garbage from the supporters of the climate change scam snipped>

Sea levels have been on the rise for the last 20,000 years dumbo! Just

because idiots like this one and the rest of loopy left can't comprehend this doesn't make any of their bogus revelations relevant! He's like you Rich and sucks in every bit of the
lefts bullshit science from the likes of Labour/Green and spews it out like the
mindless puppet he and you are!

Not on planet Earth they have not. The ice age of 17,000 years sucked up a great deal of water. Berring Strait was dry land. Well frozen but humans
walked across it to the new lands.

https://www.fws.gov/slamm/Changes%20in%20Sea%20Level_expanded%20version_template.pdf
as one reference, although it diagrees with another. However look at figure two. Very low sea levels about 12,000 years ago.



Still, never let a fact or to get in the way of some good online abuse.

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