• Chris Trotter slams the left!

    From bowesjohn02@gmail.com@3:770/3 to All on Friday, January 12, 2018 13:24:00
    https://bowalleyroad.blogspot.co.nz/2018/01/why-isnt-injury-to-one-sister-injury-to.html

    An interesting column from Chris Trotter. But don't expect anything from our resident lefty's. After all Islam is their friend because they act like ya typical lefty mobs!

    Pooh

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  • From Gordon@3:770/3 to bowesjohn02@gmail.com on Friday, January 12, 2018 23:55:25
    On 2018-01-12, bowesjohn02@gmail.com <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://bowalleyroad.blogspot.co.nz/2018/01/why-isnt-injury-to-one-sister-injury-to.html

    An interesting column from Chris Trotter. But don't expect anything from our
    resident lefty's. After all Islam is their friend because they act like ya typical lefty mobs!

    The article is about a different kind od poltics, the surpression of women
    by men. Not whether or not its the Left or Right doing whatever.

    All forms of supression, are about power and intolerance. The suppressors
    can be from the Left, Right or anywhere in between.

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  • From bowesjohn02@gmail.com@3:770/3 to Gordon on Friday, January 12, 2018 17:01:21
    On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 12:55:27 PM UTC+13, Gordon wrote:
    On 2018-01-12, bowesjohn02@gmail.com <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://bowalleyroad.blogspot.co.nz/2018/01/why-isnt-injury-to-one-sister-injury-to.html

    An interesting column from Chris Trotter. But don't expect anything from
    our resident lefty's. After all Islam is their friend because they act like ya typical lefty mobs!

    The article is about a different kind od poltics, the surpression of women
    by men. Not whether or not its the Left or Right doing whatever.

    All forms of supression, are about power and intolerance. The suppressors
    can be from the Left, Right or anywhere in between.

    Again you show a lack of comprehension Gordon. seems to be a left wing trait. Very similar to their cosying up to the enemy's of western society. The article
    is about the decidedly left wing feminist movement failing moslem women by doing NOTHING to
    protest their suffering under a male dominated religion that treats them like chattels and third rate citizens!

    Pooh

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to Gordon on Saturday, January 13, 2018 15:55:14
    On 1/13/2018 12:55 PM, Gordon wrote:
    On 2018-01-12, bowesjohn02@gmail.com <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://bowalleyroad.blogspot.co.nz/2018/01/why-isnt-injury-to-one-sister-injury-to.html

    An interesting column from Chris Trotter. But don't expect anything from our
    resident lefty's. After all Islam is their friend because they act like ya typical lefty mobs!

    The article is about a different kind od poltics, the surpression of women
    by men. Not whether or not its the Left or Right doing whatever.

    All forms of supression, are about power and intolerance. The suppressors
    can be from the Left, Right or anywhere in between.

    The suppression of women at this time is something muslim.
    Been going on for 1400 years

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  • From peterwn@3:770/3 to bowes...@gmail.com on Friday, January 12, 2018 20:58:19
    On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 10:24:02 AM UTC+13, bowes...@gmail.com wrote:
    https://bowalleyroad.blogspot.co.nz/2018/01/why-isnt-injury-to-one-sister-injury-to.html

    An interesting column from Chris Trotter. But don't expect anything from our
    resident lefty's. After all Islam is their friend because they act like ya typical lefty mobs!

    Pooh

    Chris is a professed left wing commentator but does not let this get in the way
    of Chris's writing. The left wing could do well to pay attention to what he writes.

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to peterwn@paradise.net.nz on Saturday, January 13, 2018 21:32:53
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:58:19 -0800 (PST), peterwn
    <peterwn@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

    On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 10:24:02 AM UTC+13, bowes...@gmail.com wrote: >> https://bowalleyroad.blogspot.co.nz/2018/01/why-isnt-injury-to-one-sister-injury-to.html

    An interesting column from Chris Trotter. But don't expect anything from our
    resident lefty's. After all Islam is their friend because they act like ya typical lefty mobs!

    Pooh

    Chris is a professed left wing commentator but does not let this get in the way of Chris's writing. The left wing could do well to pay attention to what he
    writes.

    Welcome back peterwn! Your perspectives on current issues have been
    missed.

    I am not sure what "left wing"you think should pay attention to what
    he writes. Teh comments to his article are interesting, and I think
    bring forward some realism about the effectiveness of protest when
    direct contact may result in loss of lfe, and regimes appear unwiling
    to even listen . . . Far from being just a left wing issue, I recall
    an interev iew recently with Jenny Shippley which covered "feminist"
    issues quite a few times, and the importance that she at least placed
    on providing opportunities for women to achive their potential, and as
    I recall she was rightly proud of the efforts that the National Party
    have made to ensure that they are no longer seen as a bunch of men in
    suits - Judith Collins, Amy Adams, Anne Tolley and Paula Bennett at
    least recognise that visible women are necessary for electoral
    success. When there was considerable publicity about suppression of
    women, trelating to clothing rules and the availability of education,
    I don't think there was any detectable difference in the diplomatic
    attitude of either the government or opposition, but just as their is
    little that the "worldwide feminist movement" can do, so there is
    little that New Zealand could do either; I understand that our troops
    in Bamian did make some small advances - probably however just
    resulting in more that had to be enabled to move to New Zealand.

    Yes the "right" do have different views on local discrimination -
    National consistently resisted fair pay for women in the elderly care
    industry until they were forced to accept change due to losing a court
    case, but in relation to attitudes to Islamic customs that are
    offensive to us, I don't see this as a left/right issue.

    Do you think the "right wing" should be expressing concern about the
    treatment of women in some of these countries? _or is mysogeny
    something that you expect the "right wing" to ignore?

    Kost people invovled in protest prefer their involvement to have some
    prosepct of changge resulting, other than their own death! I don;t
    think being "right" or "left" affects that.

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  • From jmschristophers@gmail.com@3:770/3 to Gordon on Saturday, January 13, 2018 14:23:36
    On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 12:55:27 PM UTC+13, Gordon wrote:
    On 2018-01-12, bowesjohn02@gmail.com <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://bowalleyroad.blogspot.co.nz/2018/01/why-isnt-injury-to-one-sister-injury-to.html

    An interesting column from Chris Trotter. But don't expect anything from
    our resident lefty's. After all Islam is their friend because they act like ya typical lefty mobs!

    The article is about a different kind od poltics, the surpression of women
    by men. Not whether or not its the Left or Right doing whatever.

    All forms of supression, are about power and intolerance. The suppressors
    can be from the Left, Right or anywhere in between.


    Correct. It transcends all simplistic notions of politics and goes way back, even beyond Aristotle who had much to say on the topic.

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  • From peterwn@3:770/3 to All on Saturday, January 13, 2018 18:48:27
    Hi Rich
    We are still waiting for you to name three instances where you claim I have told lies on this ng. Out with it Rich.

    On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 9:33:01 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:58:19 -0800 (PST), peterwn
    <peterwn@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

    On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 10:24:02 AM UTC+13, bowes...@gmail.com
    wrote:
    https://bowalleyroad.blogspot.co.nz/2018/01/why-isnt-injury-to-one-sister-injury-to.html

    An interesting column from Chris Trotter. But don't expect anything from
    our resident lefty's. After all Islam is their friend because they act like ya typical lefty mobs!

    Pooh

    Chris is a professed left wing commentator but does not let this get in the
    way of Chris's writing. The left wing could do well to pay attention to what he
    writes.

    Welcome back peterwn! Your perspectives on current issues have been
    missed.


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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to peterwn@paradise.net.nz on Sunday, January 14, 2018 23:30:57
    On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 18:48:27 -0800 (PST), peterwn
    <peterwn@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

    Hi Rich
    We are still waiting for you to name three instances where you claim I have told lies on this ng. Out with it Rich.

    Who is "We"?
    What I do know is that with the passage of time, I now cannot recall
    specific threads or posts or lies from when you were last posting to nz.general. It is perhaps a little like the many lies from National
    while they were part of government - important then, but no largely
    irrelevant with their loss at the last election.

    What I do recall is that you were made reasonable points on some
    issues, and that overall, discussions on nz.general were not improved
    by your stopping posting.

    I notice that you practice selective snipping when you prefer not to acknowledge the argument of another poster - it is also a bad habit
    for the trolls of the group who are determined not to acknowledg when
    they are even slightly wrong . . .

    Welcome back again.



    On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 9:33:01 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:58:19 -0800 (PST), peterwn
    <peterwn@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

    On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 10:24:02 AM UTC+13, bowes...@gmail.com wrote:
    https://bowalleyroad.blogspot.co.nz/2018/01/why-isnt-injury-to-one-sister-injury-to.html

    An interesting column from Chris Trotter. But don't expect anything from our resident lefty's. After all Islam is their friend because they act like ya typical lefty mobs!

    Pooh

    Chris is a professed left wing commentator but does not let this get in the
    way of Chris's writing. The left wing could do well to pay attention to what he
    writes.

    Welcome back peterwn! Your perspectives on current issues have been
    missed.


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  • From bowesjohn02@gmail.com@3:770/3 to JohnO on Sunday, January 14, 2018 12:14:56
    On Monday, January 15, 2018 at 8:51:57 AM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:
    On Sunday, 14 January 2018 23:31:03 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 18:48:27 -0800 (PST), peterwn
    <peterwn@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

    Hi Rich
    We are still waiting for you to name three instances where you claim I
    have told lies on this ng. Out with it Rich.

    Who is "We"?
    Peterwn and myself for a start, as a straight forward proxy for pretty ,uch
    everyone you've baselessly called a liar when they disagreed with you.


    Yup. Make that a definite THREE!

    What I do know is that with the passage of time, I now cannot recall specific threads or posts or lies from when you were last posting to nz.general. It is perhaps a little like the many lies from National
    while they were part of government - important then, but no largely irrelevant with their loss at the last election.


    Rich. National didn't LOSE at the last election. Winston practiced the most spiteful and self serving politics ever witnessed by New Zealand and your lies won't give Labour a 'win'!

    What I do recall is that you were made reasonable points on some
    issues, and that overall, discussions on nz.general were not improved
    by your stopping posting.


    Rich they only improve when you don't join in!

    I notice that you practice selective snipping when you prefer not to acknowledge the argument of another poster - it is also a bad habit
    for the trolls of the group who are determined not to acknowledg when
    they are even slightly wrong . . .

    It's not a bad habit. It's good netiquette as has been pointed out yo you
    many times. Wasted effort as you are a very slow learner.

    Slow? Rich can't learn shit!



    Welcome back again.



    On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 9:33:01 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:58:19 -0800 (PST), peterwn
    <peterwn@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

    On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 10:24:02 AM UTC+13, bowes...@gmail.com
    wrote:
    https://bowalleyroad.blogspot.co.nz/2018/01/why-isnt-injury-to-one-sister-injury-to.html

    An interesting column from Chris Trotter. But don't expect anything
    from our resident lefty's. After all Islam is their friend because they act like ya typical lefty mobs!

    Pooh

    Chris is a professed left wing commentator but does not let this get in
    the way of Chris's writing. The left wing could do well to pay attention to what he writes.

    Welcome back peterwn! Your perspectives on current issues have been
    missed.


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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Sunday, January 14, 2018 11:51:56
    On Sunday, 14 January 2018 23:31:03 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 18:48:27 -0800 (PST), peterwn
    <peterwn@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

    Hi Rich
    We are still waiting for you to name three instances where you claim I have
    told lies on this ng. Out with it Rich.

    Who is "We"?
    Peterwn and myself for a start, as a straight forward proxy for pretty ,uch everyone you've baselessly called a liar when they disagreed with you.

    What I do know is that with the passage of time, I now cannot recall
    specific threads or posts or lies from when you were last posting to nz.general. It is perhaps a little like the many lies from National
    while they were part of government - important then, but no largely irrelevant with their loss at the last election.

    What I do recall is that you were made reasonable points on some
    issues, and that overall, discussions on nz.general were not improved
    by your stopping posting.

    I notice that you practice selective snipping when you prefer not to acknowledge the argument of another poster - it is also a bad habit
    for the trolls of the group who are determined not to acknowledg when
    they are even slightly wrong . . .

    It's not a bad habit. It's good netiquette as has been pointed out yo you many times. Wasted effort as you are a very slow learner.


    Welcome back again.



    On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 9:33:01 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:58:19 -0800 (PST), peterwn
    <peterwn@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

    On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 10:24:02 AM UTC+13, bowes...@gmail.com
    wrote:
    https://bowalleyroad.blogspot.co.nz/2018/01/why-isnt-injury-to-one-sister-injury-to.html

    An interesting column from Chris Trotter. But don't expect anything
    from our resident lefty's. After all Islam is their friend because they act like ya typical lefty mobs!

    Pooh

    Chris is a professed left wing commentator but does not let this get in
    the way of Chris's writing. The left wing could do well to pay attention to what he writes.

    Welcome back peterwn! Your perspectives on current issues have been
    missed.


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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to JohnO on Sunday, January 14, 2018 14:26:51
    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sunday, 14 January 2018 23:31:03 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 18:48:27 -0800 (PST), peterwn
    <peterwn@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

    Hi Rich
    We are still waiting for you to name three instances where you claim I have >> >told lies on this ng. Out with it Rich.

    Who is "We"?
    Peterwn and myself for a start, as a straight forward proxy for pretty ,uch >everyone you've baselessly called a liar when they disagreed with you.
    He has called me a liar and has never provided evidence, just as he has failed with you, peterwn and others.
    What a patronising prick he is.

    What I do know is that with the passage of time, I now cannot recall
    specific threads or posts or lies from when you were last posting to
    nz.general. It is perhaps a little like the many lies from National
    while they were part of government - important then, but no largely
    irrelevant with their loss at the last election.

    What I do recall is that you were made reasonable points on some
    issues, and that overall, discussions on nz.general were not improved
    by your stopping posting.

    I notice that you practice selective snipping when you prefer not to
    acknowledge the argument of another poster - it is also a bad habit
    for the trolls of the group who are determined not to acknowledg when
    they are even slightly wrong . . .

    It's not a bad habit. It's good netiquette as has been pointed out yo you many >times. Wasted effort as you are a very slow learner.


    Welcome back again.



    On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 9:33:01 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:58:19 -0800 (PST), peterwn
    <peterwn@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

    On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 10:24:02 AM UTC+13, bowes...@gmail.com >> >> >wrote:

    https://bowalleyroad.blogspot.co.nz/2018/01/why-isnt-injury-to-one-sister-injury-to.html

    An interesting column from Chris Trotter. But don't expect anything
    from our resident lefty's. After all Islam is their friend because they
    act
    like ya typical lefty mobs!

    Pooh

    Chris is a professed left wing commentator but does not let this get in >> >> >the way of Chris's writing. The left wing could do well to pay attention
    to
    what he writes.

    Welcome back peterwn! Your perspectives on current issues have been
    missed.


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  • From george152@3:770/3 to JohnO on Monday, January 15, 2018 10:50:25
    On 1/15/2018 8:51 AM, JohnO wrote:
    On Sunday, 14 January 2018 23:31:03 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 18:48:27 -0800 (PST), peterwn
    <peterwn@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

    Hi Rich
    We are still waiting for you to name three instances where you claim I have
    told lies on this ng. Out with it Rich.

    Who is "We"?
    Peterwn and myself for a start, as a straight forward proxy for pretty ,uch
    everyone you've baselessly called a liar when they disagreed with you.

    Me too. Can real people use that phrase. Me too

    What I do know is that with the passage of time, I now cannot recall
    specific threads or posts or lies from when you were last posting to
    nz.general. It is perhaps a little like the many lies from National
    while they were part of government - important then, but no largely
    irrelevant with their loss at the last election.

    What I do recall is that you were made reasonable points on some
    issues, and that overall, discussions on nz.general were not improved
    by your stopping posting.

    I notice that you practice selective snipping when you prefer not to
    acknowledge the argument of another poster - it is also a bad habit
    for the trolls of the group who are determined not to acknowledg when
    they are even slightly wrong . . .

    It's not a bad habit. It's good netiquette as has been pointed out yo you
    many times. Wasted effort as you are a very slow learner.



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  • From bowesjohn02@gmail.com@3:770/3 to george on Sunday, January 14, 2018 15:58:05
    On Monday, January 15, 2018 at 10:50:30 AM UTC+13, george wrote:
    On 1/15/2018 8:51 AM, JohnO wrote:
    On Sunday, 14 January 2018 23:31:03 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 18:48:27 -0800 (PST), peterwn
    <peterwn@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

    Hi Rich
    We are still waiting for you to name three instances where you claim I
    have told lies on this ng. Out with it Rich.

    Who is "We"?
    Peterwn and myself for a start, as a straight forward proxy for pretty ,uch
    everyone you've baselessly called a liar when they disagreed with you.

    Me too. Can real people use that phrase. Me too

    What I do know is that with the passage of time, I now cannot recall
    specific threads or posts or lies from when you were last posting to
    nz.general. It is perhaps a little like the many lies from National
    while they were part of government - important then, but no largely
    irrelevant with their loss at the last election.

    What I do recall is that you were made reasonable points on some
    issues, and that overall, discussions on nz.general were not improved
    by your stopping posting.

    I notice that you practice selective snipping when you prefer not to
    acknowledge the argument of another poster - it is also a bad habit
    for the trolls of the group who are determined not to acknowledg when
    they are even slightly wrong . . .

    It's not a bad habit. It's good netiquette as has been pointed out yo you
    many times. Wasted effort as you are a very slow learner.



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    Isn't that the cry of the Hollywood crowd who were so naive they didn't understand the connotations of being invited to a directors hotel room to discuss scripts?

    Pooh

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to bowesjohn02@gmail.com on Monday, January 15, 2018 13:06:13
    On 1/15/2018 12:58 PM, bowesjohn02@gmail.com wrote:

    Isn't that the cry of the Hollywood crowd who were so naive they didn't
    understand the connotations of being invited to a directors hotel room to discuss scripts?

    Pooh

    Oh they bloody well knew.
    And at the time were only concerned with getting parts and they knew
    what parts they would get before they got parts

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  • From BR@3:770/3 to All on Monday, January 15, 2018 17:30:24
    On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 21:32:53 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:58:19 -0800 (PST), peterwn
    <peterwn@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

    On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 10:24:02 AM UTC+13, bowes...@gmail.com wrote:
    https://bowalleyroad.blogspot.co.nz/2018/01/why-isnt-injury-to-one-sister-injury-to.html

    An interesting column from Chris Trotter. But don't expect anything from our resident lefty's. After all Islam is their friend because they act like ya typical lefty mobs!

    Pooh

    Chris is a professed left wing commentator but does not let this get in the way of Chris's writing. The left wing could do well to pay attention to what he
    writes.

    Welcome back peterwn! Your perspectives on current issues have been
    missed.

    I am not sure what "left wing"you think should pay attention to what
    he writes blah blah blah etc.....


    You must have extreme amounts of spare time going by what you post
    here.

    I promise you your writings have no power to convince anyone to change
    from an opposing point of view to your way of thinking.

    You are obsessed. You are seeking vindication but you are not finding
    it. You won't find it here nor will you find it on any forum run by
    any administration with enough patience not to quickly impose a ban on
    you for trolling.

    Bill.

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  • From peterwn@3:770/3 to All on Tuesday, January 16, 2018 19:19:38
    On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 11:31:03 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 18:48:27 -0800 (PST), peterwn
    <peterwn@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

    Hi Rich
    We are still waiting for you to name three instances where you claim I have
    told lies on this ng. Out with it Rich.

    Who is "We"?
    What I do know is that with the passage of time, I now cannot recall
    specific threads or posts or lies from when you were last posting to nz.general. It is perhaps a little like the many lies from National
    while they were part of government - important then, but no largely irrelevant with their loss at the last election.

    Well, you could not answer the question about what lies I allegedly told at the
    time I asked it, so you cannot now plead 'brain fade' as an excuse.

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