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    From Tony @3:770/3 to All on Sunday, December 31, 2017 20:06:42
    XPost: nz.politics

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11968277
    I have visited the USA many times on business and holiday. The average American is a very nice person but when one of them gets some power and is inclined to bully they do it with gusto!
    Leave the lady alone, she was faced with a very difficult decision - maybe she got it wrong, but how many of us have never done so? Time for these bullies to leave her alone!
    Tony

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  • From Gordon@3:770/3 to All on Monday, January 01, 2018 03:50:03
    On 2018-01-01, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11968277
    I have visited the USA many times on business and holiday. The average
    American
    is a very nice person but when one of them gets some power and is inclined to bully they do it with gusto!
    Leave the lady alone, she was faced with a very difficult decision - maybe
    she
    got it wrong, but how many of us have never done so? Time for these bullies
    to
    leave her alone!

    It really is sad that music has to get tangled up with politics.

    Look, if everyone boycotted every country which had issues then the global economy would collaspe over night.

    I am sure there are many Jews who are reasonable and moderate. Extemists
    always give the majority a bad name.

    Ranting against the "other" side does very little progress understanding or friendship.

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  • From Mutley@3:770/3 to dot nz on Tuesday, January 02, 2018 08:28:28
    On Sun, 31 Dec 2017 20:06:42 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11968277
    I have visited the USA many times on business and holiday. The average American
    is a very nice person but when one of them gets some power and is inclined to >bully they do it with gusto!
    Leave the lady alone, she was faced with a very difficult decision - maybe she >got it wrong, but how many of us have never done so? Time for these bullies to >leave her alone!
    Tony

    She buckeled in to the anti Isreal political group and now is paying
    the price. At least in the US people are not cowered to silence over
    these sort of things like they are in NZ.

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Tuesday, January 02, 2018 12:13:00
    On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 08:28:28 +1300, Mutley <old3eyes@techie.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 31 Dec 2017 20:06:42 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11968277
    I have visited the USA many times on business and holiday. The average American
    is a very nice person but when one of them gets some power and is inclined to >>bully they do it with gusto!
    Leave the lady alone, she was faced with a very difficult decision - maybe she
    got it wrong, but how many of us have never done so? Time for these bullies to
    leave her alone!
    Tony

    She buckeled in to the anti Isreal political group and now is paying
    the price. At least in the US people are not cowered to silence over
    these sort of things like they are in NZ.

    Cowed like this, Mutley? : http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/top/332971/israel-agrees-to-restore-diplomatic-ties-with-nz

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to Mutley on Monday, January 01, 2018 19:28:52
    Mutley <old3eyes@techie.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Dec 2017 20:06:42 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11968277
    I have visited the USA many times on business and holiday. The average >>American
    is a very nice person but when one of them gets some power and is inclined to >>bully they do it with gusto!
    Leave the lady alone, she was faced with a very difficult decision - maybe >>she
    got it wrong, but how many of us have never done so? Time for these bullies >>to
    leave her alone!
    Tony

    She buckeled in to the anti Isreal political group and now is paying
    the price. At least in the US people are not cowered to silence over
    these sort of things like they are in NZ.
    I think it is more complicated than that. She is a performer, and only 21 years of age - my guess is that she is politically naive and although she buckled under pressure she was really between a rock and a hard place. Both the Jewish and Palestinian lobbies were wrong to pressure her the way they did. If this sort of behaviour reaches its logical conclusion there will be no sport, music or entertainment exempt from political pressure - what a disaster that would be!
    Tony

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  • From BR@3:770/3 to dot nz on Tuesday, January 02, 2018 21:04:25
    XPost: nz.politics

    On Sun, 31 Dec 2017 20:06:42 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11968277
    I have visited the USA many times on business and holiday. The average American
    is a very nice person but when one of them gets some power and is inclined to >bully they do it with gusto!

    You mean the social justice wankers who made a big noise and harassed
    her into cancelling the Tel Aviv concert?

    Leave the lady alone, she was faced with a very difficult decision

    Would a decision to stay out of politics really have been a difficult
    one?

    - maybe she >got it wrong, but how many of us have never done so?

    It wouldn't have been just her decision. She is part of an industry
    with a heirarchical management structure. They all got it wrong, and
    now whether she or the management like it or not, the consequences of
    this bad decision may adversely affect their revenue streams. Let it
    be a lesson to all performance artists to keep their occupations
    separate from their politics.

    Time for these bullies to >leave her alone!

    Bullies be damned. This is politics, and Team Lorde has just stepped
    into it right up to their necks. In any case, who cares? Her music (if
    it is indeed hers) is just a fart in a seemingly endless thunderstorm.
    It is therefore of very little if any concern to most people.

    Bill.

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to All on Wednesday, January 03, 2018 08:12:04
    XPost: nz.politics

    On 1/2/2018 9:04 PM, BR wrote:

    Bullies be damned. This is politics, and Team Lorde has just stepped
    into it right up to their necks. In any case, who cares? Her music (if
    it is indeed hers) is just a fart in a seemingly endless thunderstorm.
    It is therefore of very little if any concern to most people.

    Bill.


    Evidently they looked at the current stream in the US and thought to
    make a bob out of virtue signalling.
    I see a future for her doing gigs in Eketahuna with an occasional foray
    into the bright lights of Palmerston North.
    Or
    How to turn a possible life time career into a supporting act


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  • From bowesjohn02@gmail.com@3:770/3 to george on Tuesday, January 02, 2018 13:48:10
    On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 8:12:12 AM UTC+13, george wrote:
    On 1/2/2018 9:04 PM, BR wrote:

    Bullies be damned. This is politics, and Team Lorde has just stepped
    into it right up to their necks. In any case, who cares? Her music (if
    it is indeed hers) is just a fart in a seemingly endless thunderstorm.
    It is therefore of very little if any concern to most people.

    Bill.


    Evidently they looked at the current stream in the US and thought to
    make a bob out of virtue signalling.
    I see a future for her doing gigs in Eketahuna with an occasional foray
    into the bright lights of Palmerston North.
    Or
    How to turn a possible life time career into a supporting act


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    She go down well for the lefty's conferences mate :)

    Personally I believe she's just stupid like the rest of the glitterati who are boycotting Israel but not Russia or China with their lack of civil rights and attitudes to populations!

    Pooh

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