• Caring government?

    From bowesjohn02@gmail.com@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, December 21, 2017 20:49:38
    Caring government? : Sounds like a Tui add!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/100070071/scaffolding-company-put-in-liquidation-six-days-before-christmas

    turn THIS into good news Rich! :)

    Pooh

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to bowesjohn02@gmail.com on Saturday, December 23, 2017 08:13:46
    On 12/22/2017 5:49 PM, bowesjohn02@gmail.com wrote:
    Caring government? : Sounds like a Tui add!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/100070071/scaffolding-company-put-in-liquidation-six-days-before-christmas

    turn THIS into good news Rich! :)

    Pooh


    Considering as to just how much work is out there one less scaffolding
    firm means less houses next year.
    And a few households looking toward a lean holiday

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  • From jmschristophers@gmail.com@3:770/3 to george on Friday, December 22, 2017 13:08:23
    On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 8:13:52 AM UTC+13, george wrote:
    On 12/22/2017 5:49 PM, bowesjohn02@gmail.com wrote:
    Caring government? : Sounds like a Tui add!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/100070071/scaffolding-company-put-in-liquidation-six-days-before-christmas

    turn THIS into good news Rich! :)

    Pooh


    Considering as to just how much work is out there one less scaffolding
    firm means less houses next year.

    Other local companies will expand to fill the miniscule gap and if, as you intimate, stories of a booming construction industry are true, there's no shortage of work for scaffolders anyway.

    And a few households looking toward a lean holiday

    Happens. Companies aren't charities, especially those trading under limited-liability where it is unlawful to continue trading when insolvent. The
    timing of the liquidation is irrelevant since application of the laws of the land are subject neither to
    seasonal traditions nor to some tacky tabloid's emotive blandishments; and anyway, it is no business whatsoever of the government of the day.

    The good news must surely be that like all "hard-working" Kiwis the workers will have been financially literate, prudent and thrifty, and have accumulated
    more than enough savings to fall back on. Best of all, they'll still be in hot
    demand by
    shorthanded employers after these same employers have grown even fatter during their long, lazy summer break living high off the hog in such exotic loacations
    as the Seychelles or Bora Bora.

    No worries!

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to bowesjohn02@gmail.com on Friday, December 22, 2017 21:29:02
    bowesjohn02@gmail.com wrote:
    Caring government? : Sounds like a Tui add!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/100070071/scaffolding-company-put-in-liquidation-six-days-before-christmas

    turn THIS into good news Rich! :)

    Pooh
    I don't see this as a political issue.
    IRD do not liquidate businesses until they have done all possible to assist those businesses to pay their taxes.
    The process takes a long time, sometimes years.
    Tony

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  • From bowesjohn02@gmail.com@3:770/3 to nor...@googlegroups.com on Saturday, December 23, 2017 12:35:01
    On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 4:29:08 PM UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote:
    bowesjohn02@gmail.com wrote:
    Caring government? : Sounds like a Tui add!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/100070071/scaffolding-company-put-in-liquidation-six-days-before-christmas

    turn THIS into good news Rich! :)

    Pooh
    I don't see this as a political issue.
    IRD do not liquidate businesses until they have done all possible to assist those businesses to pay their taxes.
    The process takes a long time, sometimes years.
    Tony

    Sorry folk. I was channelling Rich when I posted this :)

    Merry Xmas :)

    Pooh

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  • From Gordon@3:770/3 to bowesjohn02@gmail.com on Sunday, December 24, 2017 03:11:12
    On 2017-12-22, bowesjohn02@gmail.com <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    Caring government? : Sounds like a Tui add!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/100070071/scaffolding-company-put-in-liquidation-six-days-before-christmas

    turn THIS into good news Rich! :)

    So they could not pay their tax. The IRD cares about such things and shows
    the company the liquidation door. Happens all the time. Companies do not
    make it.

    Market forces are Governing.

    The IRD was in operation during the wholw 9 years of the last National Government and acted in the same way, went out and did its job.

    Pooh trolls again.

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  • From bowesjohn02@gmail.com@3:770/3 to Gordon on Saturday, December 23, 2017 20:24:36
    On Sunday, December 24, 2017 at 4:11:15 PM UTC+13, Gordon wrote:
    On 2017-12-22, bowesjohn02@gmail.com <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    Caring government? : Sounds like a Tui add!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/100070071/scaffolding-company-put-in-liquidation-six-days-before-christmas

    turn THIS into good news Rich! :)

    So they could not pay their tax. The IRD cares about such things and shows the company the liquidation door. Happens all the time. Companies do not
    make it.

    Market forces are Governing.

    The IRD was in operation during the wholw 9 years of the last National Government and acted in the same way, went out and did its job.

    Pooh trolls again.

    Nope! That's the sort of shit your trolling mate Rich has posted on a regular basis in the past!

    Do you have a cite for your bogus glaim Gordon?

    Pooh

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to Gordon on Monday, December 25, 2017 23:39:20
    On 24 Dec 2017 03:11:12 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2017-12-22, bowesjohn02@gmail.com <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    Caring government? : Sounds like a Tui add!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/100070071/scaffolding-company-put-in-liquidation-six-days-before-christmas

    turn THIS into good news Rich! :)

    So they could not pay their tax. The IRD cares about such things and shows >the company the liquidation door. Happens all the time. Companies do not
    make it.

    Market forces are Governing.

    The IRD was in operation during the wholw 9 years of the last National >Government and acted in the same way, went out and did its job.

    Pooh trolls again.

    Of course he was - he has little or no understanding of underlying
    issues, but like the hypothetical monkey typists, he can inadvertently
    point out issues that he is not aware of. I do not know the
    circumstances of this firm, and the inability to pay tax is often the
    final step of many that leads to insolvency.

    The last National government have played favourites with big companies
    such as Fletchers, but also encouraged a policy of lowest cost for
    many contracts - the previous standards being more lowest cost subject
    to ability to provide, and a cautious approach to developing
    competition by granting small contracts to enable true competition. As
    a result we have large contracts to temporary structures that have
    effectively no "skin in the game" - they borrow money to get
    cosntruction underway using sub-contractors, and those temporary
    companies can themselves be conveniently folded after taking profit,
    leaving subbies to founder. I understand at least one of the new
    highways was n that basis. We also know that some of National's
    contracts did not work out well - for example by-passing (and then
    closing) our own rail support by giving a contract to overseas, which
    through inadequate control ended up with a lot of remidial work and
    extra cost. Public provate partnerships have enriched some private
    companies, again often at the expense of local companies as well as
    the taxpayer.

    So having New Zealand companies folding in what is likely to be an
    industry with low people availability is not good - its just another
    part of the now acknowledged disaster that National made of our
    housing industry.

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  • From bowesjohn02@gmail.com@3:770/3 to All on Monday, December 25, 2017 18:39:20
    On Monday, December 25, 2017 at 11:39:27 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On 24 Dec 2017 03:11:12 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2017-12-22, bowesjohn02@gmail.com <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    Caring government? : Sounds like a Tui add!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/100070071/scaffolding-company-put-in-liquidation-six-days-before-christmas

    turn THIS into good news Rich! :)

    So they could not pay their tax. The IRD cares about such things and shows >the company the liquidation door. Happens all the time. Companies do not >make it.

    Market forces are Governing.

    The IRD was in operation during the wholw 9 years of the last National >Government and acted in the same way, went out and did its job.

    Pooh trolls again.

    Of course he was -

    Dream on troll :)
    he has little or no understanding of underlying
    issues,

    That is a perfect description of YOU Rich. not a bloody clue about ANYTHING!

    but like the hypothetical monkey typists, he can inadvertently
    point out issues that he is not aware of. I do not know the
    circumstances of this firm, and the inability to pay tax is often the
    final step of many that leads to insolvency.


    As always you refuse to understand that company's like people and political party's are usually responsible for their own bad decisions. YOU are happy to blame government for everything except when it's a Labour government. Even when
    it's only in power
    because of the spiteful behaviour of an drunk dwarf:)

    The last National government have played favourites with big companies
    such as Fletchers, but also encouraged a policy of lowest cost for
    many contracts

    Lowest cost for government contracts is ALWAYS a factor Rich. Only someone with
    your total lack of understanding of issues would think otherwise.

    - the previous standards being more lowest cost subject
    to ability to provide, and a cautious approach to developing
    competition by granting small contracts to enable true competition.

    BULLSHIT so typical of the grubby little communist you are Rich! The standards you whine about have been in place for more years than you're capable of comprehending through many, many changes of government. Hell Clark even gave a handout to Sir Peter
    Jackson!

    <typical Rich crap snipped as the poor wee sausage has obviously over imbibing over the last couple of days.


    So having New Zealand companies folding in what is likely to be an
    industry with low people availability is not good - its just another
    part of the now acknowledged disaster that National made of our
    housing industry.

    Cite please if you're capable. If not get your five(?) year old grand daughter to give you a hand.

    So my channelling of you was bang on Rich. Thanks for confirming that your a comprehensionless communist commissar :)

    Oh seems like you had a VERY Merry Xmas :)

    Pooh

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