http://www.vulture.com/2017/12/the-simpsons-hank-azaria-addresses-the-problem-with-apu.html
The Simpsons’ Hank Azaria Says Hari Kondabolu’s The Problem With Apu
Doc Gave Him ‘a Lot to Digest’
By Halle Kiefer
In his recently released documentary The Problem With Apu, comedian
Hari Kondabolu attempts to sit down with The Simpsons star Hank Azaria
and have a conversation about one of the actor’s most well-known characters, Springfield’s Indian Kwik-E-Mart owner Apu
Nahasapeemapetilon. Azaria declined the chance to meet and have a conversation about the themes Kondabolu explores in his documentary
(South Asian representation, stereotyping, racism, that accent), but
in a recent TMZ interview, the Brockmire actor acknowledged the doc
and expressed sadness that his character has insulted the show’s
Indian and Indian-American fans.
“I think the documentary made some really interesting points and gave
us a lot to think about and we really are thinking about it,” Azaria
says. “Definitely anybody that was hurt or offended by it, or by any character or vocal performance, it’s really upsetting that it was
offensive or hurtful to anybody.” Whether his need for further
reflection implies any possible changes will be made to the character
or to the show in general, however, remains to be seen. “I think it’s
an important conversation worth having,” concludes Azaria. “We’re
still thinking about it. It’s a lot to digest.”
On 12/4/2017 9:42 AM, David wrote:
http://www.vulture.com/2017/12/the-simpsons-hank-azaria-addresses-the-proble
m-with-apu.html
The Simpsons’ Hank Azaria Says Hari Kondabolu’s The Problem With Apu Doc Gave Him ‘a Lot to Digest’
By Halle Kiefer
In his recently released documentary The Problem With Apu, comedian
Hari Kondabolu attempts to sit down with The Simpsons star Hank Azaria
and have a conversation about one of the actor’s most well-known characters, Springfield’s Indian Kwik-E-Mart owner Apu Nahasapeemapetilon. Azaria declined the chance to meet and have a conversation about the themes Kondabolu explores in his documentary
(South Asian representation, stereotyping, racism, that accent), but
in a recent TMZ interview, the Brockmire actor acknowledged the doc
and expressed sadness that his character has insulted the show’s
Indian and Indian-American fans.
“I think the documentary made some really interesting points and gave
us a lot to think about and we really are thinking about it,” Azaria says. “Definitely anybody that was hurt or offended by it, or by any character or vocal performance, it’s really upsetting that it was offensive or hurtful to anybody.” Whether his need for further
reflection implies any possible changes will be made to the character
or to the show in general, however, remains to be seen. “I think it’s an important conversation worth having,” concludes Azaria. “We’re still thinking about it. It’s a lot to digest.”
Apu works hard, takes care of his family, and treats his customers
nicely. Racially biased depictions/stereotypes could certainly be worse
than this. I've seen multiple stand up comics of Indian/Southern Asian ancestry depict the same kind of accent and so I cannot logically see
why it would be unacceptable for Hank Azaria to do it if they can do it.
Sure, the character talks funny and has a catch phrase...so do most of
the characters on THE SIMPSONS. Should fat, old, white guys be claiming discriminatory representation because of how Homer Simpson is depicted?
It seems to me that the center of the complaints against Apu is that he
is 'the only' character to be Indian on TV, which isn't quite true, but
to the extent that it is close, the complaint should be against the lack
of other representation rather than the fact that THE SIMPSONS does have
an Indian character.
Apu works hard, takes care of his family, and treats his customers
nicely. Racially biased depictions/stereotypes could certainly be worse
than this. I've seen multiple stand up comics of Indian/Southern Asian ancestry depict the same kind of accent and so I cannot logically see
why it would be unacceptable for Hank Azaria to do it if they can do it.
Sure, the character talks funny and has a catch phrase...so do most of
the characters on THE SIMPSONS. Should fat, old, white guys be claiming discriminatory representation because of how Homer Simpson is depicted?
It seems to me that the center of the complaints against Apu is that he
is 'the only' character to be Indian on TV, which isn't quite true, but
to the extent that it is close, the complaint should be against the lack
of other representation rather than the fact that THE SIMPSONS does have
an Indian character.
Azaria declined the chance to meet and have a
conversation about the themes Kondabolu explores in his documentary
(South Asian representation, stereotyping, racism, that accent)
In article <p03q05$gum$1@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com>
wrote:
Apu works hard, takes care of his family, and treats his customers
nicely. Racially biased depictions/stereotypes could certainly be worse
than this. I've seen multiple stand up comics of Indian/Southern Asian
ancestry depict the same kind of accent and so I cannot logically see
why it would be unacceptable for Hank Azaria to do it if they can do it.
Maybe the same reason why white people can't use the N word, but it's OK
for blacks.
Sure, the character talks funny and has a catch phrase...so do most of
the characters on THE SIMPSONS. Should fat, old, white guys be claiming
discriminatory representation because of how Homer Simpson is depicted?
It seems to me that the center of the complaints against Apu is that he
is 'the only' character to be Indian on TV, which isn't quite true, but
to the extent that it is close, the complaint should be against the lack
of other representation rather than the fact that THE SIMPSONS does have
an Indian character.
I think the complaint is something like "Why does the *only* Indian
character on TV have to be such a stereotype?"
In article <p03q05$gum$1@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com>
wrote:
On 12/4/2017 9:42 AM, David wrote:
http://www.vulture.com/2017/12/the-simpsons-hank-azaria-addresses-the-proble
m-with-apu.html
The Simpsons’ Hank Azaria Says Hari Kondabolu’s The Problem With Apu
Doc Gave Him ‘a Lot to Digest’
By Halle Kiefer
In his recently released documentary The Problem With Apu, comedian
Hari Kondabolu attempts to sit down with The Simpsons star Hank Azaria
and have a conversation about one of the actor’s most well-known
characters, Springfield’s Indian Kwik-E-Mart owner Apu
Nahasapeemapetilon. Azaria declined the chance to meet and have a
conversation about the themes Kondabolu explores in his documentary
(South Asian representation, stereotyping, racism, that accent), but
in a recent TMZ interview, the Brockmire actor acknowledged the doc
and expressed sadness that his character has insulted the show’s
Indian and Indian-American fans.
“I think the documentary made some really interesting points and gave >>> us a lot to think about and we really are thinking about it,†Azaria >>> says. “Definitely anybody that was hurt or offended by it, or by any >>> character or vocal performance, it’s really upsetting that it was >>> offensive or hurtful to anybody.†Whether his need for further
reflection implies any possible changes will be made to the character
or to the show in general, however, remains to be seen. “I think it’s
an important conversation worth having,†concludes Azaria. “We’re
still thinking about it. It’s a lot to digest.â€
Apu works hard, takes care of his family, and treats his customers
nicely. Racially biased depictions/stereotypes could certainly be worse
than this. I've seen multiple stand up comics of Indian/Southern Asian
ancestry depict the same kind of accent and so I cannot logically see
why it would be unacceptable for Hank Azaria to do it if they can do it.
Sure, the character talks funny and has a catch phrase...so do most of
the characters on THE SIMPSONS. Should fat, old, white guys be claiming
discriminatory representation because of how Homer Simpson is depicted?
It seems to me that the center of the complaints against Apu is that he
is 'the only' character to be Indian on TV, which isn't quite true, but
to the extent that it is close, the complaint should be against the lack
of other representation rather than the fact that THE SIMPSONS does have
an Indian character.
It's also possible they confuse the wretched convenience store with condemnation of Apu personally.
On 12/4/2017 9:42 AM, David wrote:
http://www.vulture.com/2017/12/the-simpsons-hank-azaria-addresses-the-problem-with-apu.html
The Simpsons’ Hank Azaria Says Hari Kondabolu’s The Problem With Apu
Doc Gave Him ‘a Lot to Digest’
By Halle Kiefer
In his recently released documentary The Problem With Apu, comedian
Hari Kondabolu attempts to sit down with The Simpsons star Hank Azaria
and have a conversation about one of the actor’s most well-known
characters, Springfield’s Indian Kwik-E-Mart owner Apu
Nahasapeemapetilon. Azaria declined the chance to meet and have a
conversation about the themes Kondabolu explores in his documentary
(South Asian representation, stereotyping, racism, that accent), but
in a recent TMZ interview, the Brockmire actor acknowledged the doc
and expressed sadness that his character has insulted the show’s
Indian and Indian-American fans.
“I think the documentary made some really interesting points and gave
us a lot to think about and we really are thinking about it,” Azaria
says. “Definitely anybody that was hurt or offended by it, or by any
character or vocal performance, it’s really upsetting that it was
offensive or hurtful to anybody.” Whether his need for further
reflection implies any possible changes will be made to the character
or to the show in general, however, remains to be seen. “I think it’s
an important conversation worth having,” concludes Azaria. “We’re
still thinking about it. It’s a lot to digest.”
Apu works hard, takes care of his family, and treats his customers
nicely. Racially biased depictions/stereotypes could certainly be worse than this. I've seen multiple stand up comics of Indian/Southern Asian ancestry depict the same kind of accent and so I cannot logically see
why it would be unacceptable for Hank Azaria to do it if they can do it.
Sure, the character talks funny and has a catch phrase...so do most of
the characters on THE SIMPSONS. Should fat, old, white guys be claiming discriminatory representation because of how Homer Simpson is depicted?
It seems to me that the center of the complaints against Apu is that he
is 'the only' character to be Indian on TV, which isn't quite true, but
to the extent that it is close, the complaint should be against the lack
of other representation rather than the fact that THE SIMPSONS does have
an Indian character.
On 2017-12-04 10:35 AM, Obveeus wrote:
On 12/4/2017 9:42 AM, David wrote:
http://www.vulture.com/2017/12/the-simpsons-hank-azaria-addresses-the-problem-with-apu.html
The Simpsons’ Hank Azaria Says Hari Kondabolu’s The Problem With Apu >>> Doc Gave Him ‘a Lot to Digest’
By Halle Kiefer
In his recently released documentary The Problem With Apu, comedian
Hari Kondabolu attempts to sit down with The Simpsons star Hank Azaria
and have a conversation about one of the actor’s most well-known
characters, Springfield’s Indian Kwik-E-Mart owner Apu
Nahasapeemapetilon. Azaria declined the chance to meet and have a
conversation about the themes Kondabolu explores in his documentary
(South Asian representation, stereotyping, racism, that accent), but
in a recent TMZ interview, the Brockmire actor acknowledged the doc
and expressed sadness that his character has insulted the show’s
Indian and Indian-American fans.
“I think the documentary made some really interesting points and gave
us a lot to think about and we really are thinking about it,” Azaria
says. “Definitely anybody that was hurt or offended by it, or by any
character or vocal performance, it’s really upsetting that it was
offensive or hurtful to anybody.” Whether his need for further
reflection implies any possible changes will be made to the character
or to the show in general, however, remains to be seen. “I think it’s >>> an important conversation worth having,” concludes Azaria. “We’re
still thinking about it. It’s a lot to digest.”
Apu works hard, takes care of his family, and treats his customers
nicely. Racially biased depictions/stereotypes could certainly be worse
than this. I've seen multiple stand up comics of Indian/Southern Asian
ancestry depict the same kind of accent and so I cannot logically see
why it would be unacceptable for Hank Azaria to do it if they can do it.
Sure, the character talks funny and has a catch phrase...so do most of
the characters on THE SIMPSONS. Should fat, old, white guys be claiming
discriminatory representation because of how Homer Simpson is depicted?
It seems to me that the center of the complaints against Apu is that he
is 'the only' character to be Indian on TV, which isn't quite true, but
to the extent that it is close, the complaint should be against the lack
of other representation rather than the fact that THE SIMPSONS does have
an Indian character.
Indian actors are not exactly rare on TV. Here are several off the top
of my head from shows that are either current or recent:
- Parminder Nagra from ER (and Alcatraz)
- Mindy Kaling from her own show
- Kal Penn from Designated Survivor
- Kumail Nanjiani from Silicon Valley (and Franklin & Bash)
- Hannah Simone from New Girl
On 12/4/2017 10:49 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:Apu
In article <p03q05$gum$1@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com>
wrote:
On 12/4/2017 9:42 AM, David wrote:
http://www.vulture.com/2017/12/the-simpsons-hank-azaria-addresses-the-prob
le
m-with-apu.html
The Simpsons菄 Hank Azaria Says Hari Kondabolu菄s The Problem With
AzariaDoc Gave Him 跕a Lot to Digest菄
By Halle Kiefer
In his recently released documentary The Problem With Apu, comedian
Hari Kondabolu attempts to sit down with The Simpsons star Hank Azaria >>> and have a conversation about one of the actor菄s most well-known
characters, Springfield菄s Indian Kwik-E-Mart owner Apu
Nahasapeemapetilon. Azaria declined the chance to meet and have a
conversation about the themes Kondabolu explores in his documentary
(South Asian representation, stereotyping, racism, that accent), but
in a recent TMZ interview, the Brockmire actor acknowledged the doc
and expressed sadness that his character has insulted the show菄s
Indian and Indian-American fans.
裉I think the documentary made some really interesting points and gave >>> us a lot to think about and we really are thinking about it,�
it菄ssays. 裉Definitely anybody that was hurt or offended by it, or by any >>> character or vocal performance, it菄s really upsetting that it was
offensive or hurtful to anybody.� Whether his need for further
reflection implies any possible changes will be made to the character
or to the show in general, however, remains to be seen. 裉I think
裉We菄rean important conversation worth having,� concludes Azaria.
still thinking about it. It菄s a lot to digest.�
Apu works hard, takes care of his family, and treats his customers
nicely. Racially biased depictions/stereotypes could certainly be worse >> than this. I've seen multiple stand up comics of Indian/Southern Asian
ancestry depict the same kind of accent and so I cannot logically see
why it would be unacceptable for Hank Azaria to do it if they can do it. >> Sure, the character talks funny and has a catch phrase...so do most of >> the characters on THE SIMPSONS. Should fat, old, white guys be claiming >> discriminatory representation because of how Homer Simpson is depicted?
It seems to me that the center of the complaints against Apu is that he
is 'the only' character to be Indian on TV, which isn't quite true, but
to the extent that it is close, the complaint should be against the lack >> of other representation rather than the fact that THE SIMPSONS does have >> an Indian character.
It's also possible they confuse the wretched convenience store with condemnation of Apu personally.
Sure, but wouldn't Moe's Tavern condemn all bars and bar owners and
wouldn't the nuclear power plant condemn all power plant owners and
workers and wouldn't Springfield Elementary be a condemnation of all principals and school teachers? Basically, the show lampoons everyone
and everything, so it makes no sense to take one character's portrayal
out of context with all the rest.
Apu works hard, takes care of his family, and treats his customers
nicely. Racially biased depictions/stereotypes could certainly be worse
than this. I've seen multiple stand up comics of Indian/Southern Asian >ancestry depict the same kind of accent and so I cannot logically see
why it would be unacceptable for Hank Azaria to do it if they can do it.
Sure, the character talks funny and has a catch phrase...so do most of
the characters on THE SIMPSONS. Should fat, old, white guys be claiming >discriminatory representation because of how Homer Simpson is depicted?
It seems to me that the center of the complaints against Apu is that he
is 'the only' character to be Indian on TV, which isn't quite true, but
to the extent that it is close, the complaint should be against the lack
of other representation rather than the fact that THE SIMPSONS does have
an Indian character.
In article <p03q05$gum$1@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com>
wrote:
Apu works hard, takes care of his family, and treats his customers
nicely. Racially biased depictions/stereotypes could certainly be worse
than this. I've seen multiple stand up comics of Indian/Southern Asian
ancestry depict the same kind of accent and so I cannot logically see
why it would be unacceptable for Hank Azaria to do it if they can do it.
Maybe the same reason why white people can't use the N word, but it's OK
for blacks.
Sure, the character talks funny and has a catch phrase...so do most of
the characters on THE SIMPSONS. Should fat, old, white guys be claiming
discriminatory representation because of how Homer Simpson is depicted?
It seems to me that the center of the complaints against Apu is that he
is 'the only' character to be Indian on TV, which isn't quite true, but
to the extent that it is close, the complaint should be against the lack
of other representation rather than the fact that THE SIMPSONS does have
an Indian character.
I think the complaint is something like "Why does the *only* Indian
character on TV have to be such a stereotype?"
In article <p043lr$p1s$4@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com>Problem With Apu
wrote:
On 12/4/2017 10:49 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
In article <p03q05$gum$1@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com>
wrote:
On 12/4/2017 9:42 AM, David wrote:
http://www.vulture.com/2017/12/the-simpsons-hank-azaria-addresses-the-prob
le
m-with-apu.html
The SimpsonsÂ‰è„ Hank Azaria Says Hari Kondabolu‰è„s The
Doc Gave Him ‰跕a Lot to Digest‰è„Apu works hard, takes care of his family, and treats his customers
By Halle Kiefer
In his recently released documentary The Problem With Apu, comedian
Hari Kondabolu attempts to sit down with The Simpsons star Hank Azaria >>>>> and have a conversation about one of the actor‰è„s most well-known
characters, Springfield‰è„s Indian Kwik-E-Mart owner Apu
Nahasapeemapetilon. Azaria declined the chance to meet and have a
conversation about the themes Kondabolu explores in his documentary
(South Asian representation, stereotyping, racism, that accent), but >>>>> in a recent TMZ interview, the Brockmire actor acknowledged the doc
and expressed sadness that his character has insulted the show‰è„s
Indian and Indian-American fans.
‰裉I think the documentary made some really interesting points and gave
us a lot to think about and we really are thinking about it,‰� Azaria
says. ‰裉Definitely anybody that was hurt or offended by it, or by any
character or vocal performance, it‰è„s really upsetting that it was
offensive or hurtful to anybody.‰� Whether his need for further
reflection implies any possible changes will be made to the character >>>>> or to the show in general, however, remains to be seen. ‰裉I think it‰è„s
an important conversation worth having,‰� concludes Azaria. ‰裉We‰è„re
still thinking about it. It‰è„s a lot to digest.‰� >>>>
nicely. Racially biased depictions/stereotypes could certainly be worse >>>> than this. I've seen multiple stand up comics of Indian/Southern Asian >>>> ancestry depict the same kind of accent and so I cannot logically see
why it would be unacceptable for Hank Azaria to do it if they can do it. >>>> Sure, the character talks funny and has a catch phrase...so do most of >>>> the characters on THE SIMPSONS. Should fat, old, white guys be claiming >>>> discriminatory representation because of how Homer Simpson is depicted? >>>> It seems to me that the center of the complaints against Apu is that he >>>> is 'the only' character to be Indian on TV, which isn't quite true, but >>>> to the extent that it is close, the complaint should be against the lack >>>> of other representation rather than the fact that THE SIMPSONS does have >>>> an Indian character.
It's also possible they confuse the wretched convenience store with
condemnation of Apu personally.
Sure, but wouldn't Moe's Tavern condemn all bars and bar owners and
wouldn't the nuclear power plant condemn all power plant owners and
workers and wouldn't Springfield Elementary be a condemnation of all
principals and school teachers? Basically, the show lampoons everyone
and everything, so it makes no sense to take one character's portrayal
out of context with all the rest.
Agree, I'm just speaking to the stupidity of the complainants.
On 04/12/2017 18:23, Rhino wrote:
Indian actors are not exactly rare on TV. Here are several off the top
of my head from shows that are either current or recent:
- Parminder Nagra from ER (and Alcatraz)
- Mindy Kaling from her own show
- Kal Penn from Designated Survivor
- Kumail Nanjiani from Silicon Valley (and Franklin & Bash)
- Hannah Simone from New Girl
None of those characters are remotely like Apu aside from skin tone.
Surely showing uniqueness is better than stereotyping?
Indian actors are not exactly rare on TV. Here are several off the top
of my head from shows that are either current or recent:
- Parminder Nagra from ER (and Alcatraz)
- Mindy Kaling from her own show
- Kal Penn from Designated Survivor
- Kumail Nanjiani from Silicon Valley (and Franklin & Bash)
- Hannah Simone from New Girl
None of those characters are remotely like Apu aside from skin tone.
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