• Notes for YABF21 (Go Big or Go Homer)

    From Matt Garvey@1:229/2 to All on Sunday, October 06, 2019 18:57:50
    From: mxg77@po.cwru.edu

    I usually find Selman episodes interesting, meaningful, unusual/fresh, and so on. I like how they tend to involve the kids and Marge more, and how Homer's often a few brain cells above latter-season average. This felt like a miss, though, mostly just
    having a bit more to Homer and a very baffling "unusual" quality I just don't think I get. We've seen Homer with an admirer before, and this had potential. Is there a plot or character spoof I'm not getting? This guy's whole shtick seemed very specific,
    with the "-s" ending to names, other tics, and even his slightly paler than usual skin. "Let the River Run" I know as a theme from Working Girl, but I don't see any major connection to that. A significant Mike Rapaport character I
    don't know? I'm left
    more puzzled than entertained. Several bits with Marge seemed very out of place
    (the "BB" slipping, the pupil gag). This pizza idea not only makes no sense at all (on top of the huge time delay, which is pointed out, all edges would get a
    bit crusty,
    right?) but is inconsistent (each piece was to run in sequence for some reason but at the end they're all done and still fresh).


    DYN:
    ...the opening scenes take place on a snowy day (when did they expect this to run exactly)?
    ...Mike says nucular while Homer actually does say nuclear?

    Previous episode stuff
    3F10, 3G01: Mr. Burns caught being unexpectedly generous or nice while medicated
    9F07: Mike tells Homer "Mr. Plow" (he must have really done his research!) must
    be accurate when he sees how attractive Marge is (because of the slang word for
    sex)

    Meta
    The big deal over sector 7G and Bart's "oat can" head come to mind.

    Football is IMPORTANT
    Another pointless and unnecessary delay from a game that was over BEFORE 8:00. The game was over at 7:56. The episode started at 8:04:30. YOU HAD YOUR TIME. Don't take mine!

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  • From Keith F. Lynch@1:229/2 to Matt Garvey on Monday, October 07, 2019 04:19:24
    From: kfl@KeithLynch.net

    Matt Garvey <mxg77@po.cwru.edu> wrote:
    Another pointless and unnecessary delay from a game that was over
    BEFORE 8:00. The game was over at 7:56. The episode started at
    8:04:30.

    Are you sure? It looked more like 8:08 to me. Could it be different
    in different (EDT time zone) cities?

    YOU HAD YOUR TIME. Don't take mine!

    When I heard about sub-channels a decade ago, my first thought was
    that when football runs over, either the game or the show it's
    stepping on could be moved to a different sub-channel. But apparently
    they never use them for that.

    Also, how can it be that after all these decades of football, they
    don't know how long games typically are, and allocate enough time
    for them?

    Would it be too much to ask that they put the actual start time on
    a chyron and/or on their website, rather than making us sit through
    endless ads and boring football-related stuff?

    Or maybe they could move the entire Simpsons season forward a few
    months so that it doesn't overlap with football season? So what if
    that means it continues way into the summer?

    Would it help if we all got together and wrote to the network that any
    ad we see when The Simpsons starts late, we will boycott and write to
    the advertiser saying that we were doing so and why?
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  • From Chubango@1:229/2 to All on Monday, October 07, 2019 23:10:22
    From: chubango@gmail.com

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  • From Matt Garvey@1:229/2 to Keith F. Lynch on Sunday, October 20, 2019 19:17:52
    From: mxg77@po.cwru.edu

    On Sunday, October 6, 2019 at 11:19:26 PM UTC-4, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
    Another pointless and unnecessary delay from a game that was over
    BEFORE 8:00. The game was over at 7:56. The episode started at
    8:04:30.

    Are you sure? It looked more like 8:08 to me. Could it be different
    in different (EDT time zone) cities?

    It often is. I had Packers/Cowboys.

    Also, how can it be that after all these decades of football, they
    don't know how long games typically are, and allocate enough time
    for them?

    Oh, they know. This "The OT" time slot that adds an extra 30 minutes to the three hours that should be plenty is designed for that. They started doing that
    several years ago. It's not always actually enough, even for regular games that
    don't run into
    overtime or have close scores. Why are games longer? Advertising. I assume that's also the main reason a game that's over before 8 doesn't let the episode
    start at 8. Even if game coverage is done and there's no need to toy with a "Heidi incident", I
    guess they've run long enough on continuous coverage that they haven't had time
    to play all the commercials they need to (and/or certain commercials are specifically timed to the post-game parts). And the dollar is king. After all, what gets affected?
    Local affiliates have less time for news or cut into a program they own or paid
    programming that cost less. Human needs and basic courtesy are not part of the equation.

    Or maybe they could move the entire Simpsons season forward a few
    months so that it doesn't overlap with football season? So what if
    that means it continues way into the summer?

    Many seasons (12-16 in particular) started in November for what I assume is a related reason (baseball), but this seems like a hard sell.


    Would it help if we all got together and wrote to the network that any
    ad we see when The Simpsons starts late, we will boycott and write to
    the advertiser saying that we were doing so and why?

    I doubt it. Oh well.

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  • From Matt Garvey@1:229/2 to Chubango on Sunday, October 20, 2019 19:20:33
    From: mxg77@po.cwru.edu

    On Monday, October 7, 2019 at 9:10:24 PM UTC-4, Chubango wrote:
    On 06/10/2019 21.57, Matt Garvey wrote:

    I don't think that the actual business idea was that important but it
    still felt like a relatively fresh take and situation for Homer. For
    once there was an actual payoff to the story and the theme instead of a rushed or non-ending.

    You've got a point there. After all my complaints about those endings, it is nice, it's true. It would still be nice if the business did have some internal logic, even nicer if it had some real-world logic too.

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