• Re: The Fog - James Herbert novel

    From Adam@1:229/2 to Simon T on Thursday, May 24, 2018 00:58:50
    From: AdolanNoSpam62@gmail.com

    Simon T <darkangel5@REMOVETHISBITlineone.net> wrote:
    Nothing to do with John Carpenters film of the same name, I recently
    became aware that Christopher Lee had narrated a version of James
    Herbert's 1975 novel "The Fog" and as someone had kindly uploaded it to YouTube, decided to give it a listen whilst working outside the other day.

    Quite enjoyed it, had a distinct "Quatermass" feel to it, though a great
    deal of my enjoyment undoubtedly came from listening to Lee's narration.
    Not sure I would enjoy it as much had someone else narrated it.

    In a nutshell, a mysterious cloud of green fog is released into the
    Wiltshire countryside which emerges from a fissure in the ground
    following a violent earth tremor. Which turns anyone who comes into
    contact with it into a violent psychopath.

    The book follows a Govt worker named Holman, who is one of the first
    people exposed to it, but manages to overcome its effects. And
    subsequently attempts to help the govt deal with the aftermath as the fog moves around the countryside causing mass murder and suicides in its wake
    and try to figure out a way of stopping it.

    Obviously a lot of its descriptions are very dated, at one point he
    appears to be describing the old East Greenwich Gas Works near the
    Blackwall tunnel in London, which actually closed around the time the
    novel was released and is now the site of the Millenium dome, which may
    cause problems if someone wished to adapt this into a film.

    Also, there is apparently a lot of stuff missing from this particular
    audio novel adaptation, which appears to have been toned down
    considerably or ommited for brevity.

    Anyway, if you fancy giving the audionovel a listen its on YouTube in 4 parts. Here's part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRXOj7tnf1M

    There's also another audionovel adaptation on Amazon, but not heard that to
    comment.

    Anyone read the original book or listened to either of these versions and
    care to comment?


    I read the book decades ago. I remember it as being really good. Haven't heard Lee's narration of it, but I'm definitely going to. It will be
    perfect to have on while I'm doing my daily physical therapy exercises for
    my back.

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  • From Simon T@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, May 23, 2018 22:30:00
    From: darkangel5@REMOVETHISBITlineone.net

    Nothing to do with John Carpenters film of the same name, I recently
    became aware that Christopher Lee had narrated a version of James
    Herbert's 1975 novel "The Fog" and as someone had kindly uploaded it to YouTube, decided to give it a listen whilst working outside the other day.

    Quite enjoyed it, had a distinct "Quatermass" feel to it, though a great
    deal of my enjoyment undoubtedly came from listening to Lee's narration.
    Not sure I would enjoy it as much had someone else narrated it.

    In a nutshell, a mysterious cloud of green fog is released into the
    Wiltshire countryside which emerges from a fissure in the ground
    following a violent earth tremor. Which turns anyone who comes into
    contact with it into a violent psychopath.

    The book follows a Govt worker named Holman, who is one of the first
    people exposed to it, but manages to overcome its effects. And
    subsequently attempts to help the govt deal with the aftermath as the
    fog moves around the countryside causing mass murder and suicides in its
    wake and try to figure out a way of stopping it.

    Obviously a lot of its descriptions are very dated, at one point he
    appears to be describing the old East Greenwich Gas Works near the
    Blackwall tunnel in London, which actually closed around the time the
    novel was released and is now the site of the Millenium dome, which may
    cause problems if someone wished to adapt this into a film.

    Also, there is apparently a lot of stuff missing from this particular
    audio novel adaptation, which appears to have been toned down
    considerably or ommited for brevity.

    Anyway, if you fancy giving the audionovel a listen its on YouTube in 4
    parts. Here's part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRXOj7tnf1M

    There's also another audionovel adaptation on Amazon, but not heard that
    to comment.

    Anyone read the original book or listened to either of these versions
    and care to comment?

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  • From Simon T@1:229/2 to the dog from that film you saw on Thursday, May 24, 2018 23:18:54
    From: darkangel5@REMOVETHISBITlineone.net

    On 24/05/2018 19:44, the dog from that film you saw wrote:
    he never really did well with his film adaptations
    though did he?
    Not seen "Survivor" to comment, quite enjoyed "The Rats", although it transposed the location from London to New York. Will have to see if I
    can find an audiobook of that one!

    The thing with his novels, although his most prolific stories were
    released in the 70s, his descriptions of places appear to be from
    decades earlier. Like the aformentioned East Greenwich Gas Works, which
    would have been a heavy industrial area in the 1940s and 50s as per his descriptions.

    Similarly, in The Rats, they apparently emerged from an old bomb site
    that had stood derelict for several years. Not sure there were many bomb
    sites left in the 70s were there? He appears to be harping back to the
    early 50s

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  • From the dog from that film you saw@1:229/2 to Simon T on Thursday, May 24, 2018 19:44:58
    From: dsb@REMOVETHISBITbtinternet.com

    On 23/05/2018 22:30, Simon T wrote:


    Anyone read the original book or listened to either of these versions
    and care to comment?




    i read quite a lot of his books while in school. for some strange reason
    the school library had them all for loaning to 12 year olds onwards
    despite them being remarkably rude and violent in places. really enjoyed
    them it must be said. he never really did well with his film adaptations
    though did he?

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  • From Incubus@1:229/2 to Simon T on Friday, May 25, 2018 15:26:21
    From: incubus9536612@gmail.com

    On 2018-05-23, Simon T <darkangel5@REMOVETHISBITlineone.net> wrote:
    Nothing to do with John Carpenters film of the same name, I recently became aware that Christopher Lee had narrated a version of James Herbert's 1975 novel "The Fog" and as someone had kindly uploaded it to YouTube, decided to give it a listen whilst working outside the other day.

    Quite enjoyed it, had a distinct "Quatermass" feel to it, though a great deal of my enjoyment undoubtedly came from listening to Lee's narration. Not sure I would enjoy it as much had someone else narrated it.

    In a nutshell, a mysterious cloud of green fog is released into the Wiltshire countryside which emerges from a fissure in the ground following a violent earth tremor. Which turns anyone who comes into contact with it into a violent psychopath.

    The book follows a Govt worker named Holman, who is one of the first people exposed to it, but manages to overcome its effects. And subsequently attempts to help the govt deal with the aftermath as the fog moves around the countryside causing mass murder and suicides in its wake and try to figure out a way of stopping it.

    Obviously a lot of its descriptions are very dated, at one point he appears to be describing the old East Greenwich Gas Works near the Blackwall tunnel in London, which actually closed around the time the novel was released and is now the site of the Millenium dome, which may cause problems if someone wished to adapt this into a film.

    Also, there is apparently a lot of stuff missing from this particular audio novel adaptation, which appears to have been toned down considerably or ommited for brevity.

    Anyway, if you fancy giving the audionovel a listen its on YouTube in 4 parts. Here's part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRXOj7tnf1M

    There's also another audionovel adaptation on Amazon, but not heard that to comment.

    Anyone read the original book or listened to either of these versions and care to comment?

    I have read all of James Herbert's novels and The Fog is one of his classics. At the time, he used to put in some of the more perverse elements compared to other horror writers. Stephen King's forte is creating a town with citizens and their back-stories and bringing them to life; Shaun Hutson's was unmitigated gore; Herbert's was writing stories that unfolded like films but with the occasional bit of perversion just to keep it interesting.

    He wrote a similar novel called The Dark which had pretty much the same theme except it was dark rather than fog. It's worth looking for if you want more of the same.

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  • From Incubus@1:229/2 to Simon T on Friday, May 25, 2018 15:28:12
    From: incubus9536612@gmail.com

    On 2018-05-24, Simon T <darkangel5@REMOVETHISBITlineone.net> wrote:
    On 24/05/2018 19:44, the dog from that film you saw wrote:
    he never really did well with his film adaptations though did he?
    Not seen "Survivor" to comment, quite enjoyed "The Rats", although it transposed the location from London to New York. Will have to see if I can find an audiobook of that one!

    The thing with his novels, although his most prolific stories were released in the 70s, his descriptions of places appear to be from decades earlier. Like the aformentioned East Greenwich Gas Works, which would have been a heavy industrial area in the 1940s and 50s as per his descriptions.

    Similarly, in The Rats, they apparently emerged from an old bomb site that had stood derelict for several years. Not sure there were many bomb sites left in the 70s were there? He appears to be harping back to the early 50s

    I can imagine a lot of his writing came from childhood memories. There was always an old-fashioned feeling about the various English towns and cities he featured. It's one of the things that drew me to his novels.

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  • From Adam@1:229/2 to Simon T on Saturday, May 26, 2018 02:25:25
    From: AdolanNoSpam62@gmail.com

    Simon T <darkangel5@REMOVETHISBITlineone.net> wrote:
    On 24/05/2018 19:44, the dog from that film you saw wrote:
    he never really did well with his film adaptations > though did he?
    Not seen "Survivor" to comment, quite enjoyed "The Rats", although it transposed the location from London to New York. Will have to see if I
    can find an audiobook of that one!

    The thing with his novels, although his most prolific stories were
    released in the 70s, his descriptions of places appear to be from decades earlier. Like the aformentioned East Greenwich Gas Works, which would
    have been a heavy industrial area in the 1940s and 50s as per his
    descriptions.

    Similarly, in The Rats, they apparently emerged from an old bomb site
    that had stood derelict for several years. Not sure there were many bomb sites left in the 70s were there? He appears to be harping back to the early
    50s


    The other film adaptation of The Rats, called Deadly Eyes, is....not the
    *best* movie ever made. Dachshunds make unconvincing stand ins for killer rats. On the plus side, Scatman Crothers gets eaten alive.

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  • From Jared@1:229/2 to Incubus on Sunday, May 27, 2018 20:09:24
    From: bijgh@hotmail.com

    On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 1:28:13 AM UTC+10, Incubus wrote:

    I can imagine a lot of his writing came from childhood memories. There was always an old-fashioned feeling about the various English towns and cities he featured. It's one of the things that drew me to his novels.

    Interesting discussion. I think his best novel was '48 which is set (unsurprisingly) in 1948 in an (alternate reality) war-torn London.

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  • From Jared@1:229/2 to Simon T on Sunday, May 27, 2018 20:04:07
    From: bijgh@hotmail.com

    On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 8:18:55 AM UTC+10, Simon T wrote:

    Not seen "Survivor" to comment, quite enjoyed "The Rats", although it transposed the location from London to New York. Will have to see if I
    can find an audiobook of that one!

    RATS got a pretty good computer game on the Speccy complete with rats eating through the screen when you got killed.

    What about FLUKE which the book cover sets up as being some sort of existential drama about the nature of being human and then turns out to be a dog investigating crime? The movie is PG and stars Matthew Modine and Samuel L. Jackson.

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  • From Lesmond@1:229/2 to Adam on Sunday, May 27, 2018 01:44:47
    From: lesmond@verizon.net

    On Sat, 26 May 2018 02:25:25 -0000 (UTC), Adam wrote:

    Simon T <darkangel5@REMOVETHISBITlineone.net> wrote:
    On 24/05/2018 19:44, the dog from that film you saw wrote:
    he never really did well with his film adaptations > though did he?
    Not seen "Survivor" to comment, quite enjoyed "The Rats", although it
    transposed the location from London to New York. Will have to see if I
    can find an audiobook of that one!

    The thing with his novels, although his most prolific stories were
    released in the 70s, his descriptions of places appear to be from decades
    earlier. Like the aformentioned East Greenwich Gas Works, which would
    have been a heavy industrial area in the 1940s and 50s as per his descriptions.

    Similarly, in The Rats, they apparently emerged from an old bomb site
    that had stood derelict for several years. Not sure there were many bomb
    sites left in the 70s were there? He appears to be harping back to the early
    50s


    The other film adaptation of The Rats, called Deadly Eyes, is....not the >*best* movie ever made. Dachshunds make unconvincing stand ins for killer >rats. On the plus side, Scatman Crothers gets eaten alive.

    Oh, my god. I saw that.

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  • From the dog from that film you saw@1:229/2 to Jared on Monday, May 28, 2018 09:56:19
    From: dsb@REMOVETHISBITbtinternet.com

    On 28/05/2018 04:04, Jared wrote:
    On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 8:18:55 AM UTC+10, Simon T wrote:

    Not seen "Survivor" to comment, quite enjoyed "The Rats", although it
    transposed the location from London to New York. Will have to see if I
    can find an audiobook of that one!

    RATS got a pretty good computer game on the Speccy complete with rats eating through the screen when you got killed.

    What about FLUKE which the book cover sets up as being some sort of
    existential
    drama about the nature of being human and then turns out to be a dog investigating crime? The movie is PG and stars Matthew Modine and Samuel L. Jackson.




    i really enjoyed the film even though it did take rather massive
    liberties with the original novel.

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  • From Jared@1:229/2 to Incubus on Tuesday, May 29, 2018 19:54:48
    From: bijgh@hotmail.com

    On Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 7:11:25 PM UTC+10, Incubus wrote:

    I really enjoyed that novel. It has a similar theme to Man in the High
    Castle,
    only civilisation has collapsed.

    Also Len Deighton's SS-GB which reminds me, I must get round to watching the rest
    of that TV series.

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  • From Incubus@1:229/2 to Jared on Tuesday, May 29, 2018 09:11:24
    From: incubus9536612@gmail.com

    On 2018-05-28, Jared <bijgh@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 1:28:13 AM UTC+10, Incubus wrote:

    I can imagine a lot of his writing came from childhood memories. There was >> always an old-fashioned feeling about the various English towns and cities >> he featured. It's one of the things that drew me to his novels.

    Interesting discussion. I think his best novel was '48 which is set (unsurprisingly) in 1948 in an (alternate reality) war-torn London.

    I really enjoyed that novel. It has a similar theme to Man in the High Castle, only civilisation has collapsed.

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  • From The White Lady@1:229/2 to the dog from that film you saw on Tuesday, May 29, 2018 09:33:01
    From: me@privacy.net

    the dog from that film you saw <dsb@REMOVETHISBITbtinternet.com> wrote in news:fmofhbFtg12U1@mid.individual.net:

    On 23/05/2018 22:30, Simon T wrote:


    Anyone read the original book or listened to either of these versions
    and care to comment?




    i read quite a lot of his books while in school. for some strange reason
    the school library had them all for loaning to 12 year olds onwards
    despite them being remarkably rude



    I also remember them being very popular at school for that very reason.

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  • From Andrew@1:229/2 to Jared on Thursday, May 31, 2018 15:39:30
    From: manowarkillsNOSPAM@netscape.net

    On 5/27/2018 10:09 PM, Jared wrote:
    On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 1:28:13 AM UTC+10, Incubus wrote:

    I can imagine a lot of his writing came from childhood memories. There was >> always an old-fashioned feeling about the various English towns and cities he
    featured. It's one of the things that drew me to his novels.

    Interesting discussion. I think his best novel was '48 which is set (unsurprisingly) in 1948 in an (alternate reality) war-torn London.


    I just read the synopsis for '48 and I am SOLD!


    Andrew

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