From: darkangel5@REMOVETHISBITlineone.net

A little off-topic for this group I suppose, but I recently got the
Dirty Harry Blu-Ray box-set and giving the original film a re-watch.

Still a great film, but it's amazing how dated this looks. Filmed back
in 71, it looks more like something from the 60s. Clint, who was 41 at
the time, looked old even then and yet the old guy is still going.

Had to chuckle when the killer sends a ransom note to the Mayor's office demanding $100,000 and the mayor is saying "Where the hell am I going to
get that kind of money?".

Bloody hell, you can't even buy a house for that these days.

Also, despite having seen this film on several occaisions, I'm amazed at
some of the dialogue in this and how the sort of things people joke
about has changed.

Clint's character Harry Callahan is in the hospital, having been
peppered with lead shot from a shotgun blast. He tells the doc to be
careful, to which he replies...

"Hey, do I tell you how to beat a confession out of a prisoner?"

Also when he's assigned a rookie detective as a partner, one of his
assosiates tells the kid not to take any dislikings personally as
"Callahan hates everyone equally. Limeys, micks, hebes, dagos, niggers, honkies, chinks, you name it."

The Rookie (who is clearly Latino) asks "What about Mexicans" and
Callahan replies "Especially Spics"

Bloody hell, can you imagine that sort of language being bandied about
in a police department, or even in a film, today????

Cleary Clint's character and some of the other older detectives are
playing cops, whose attitude is still stuck in the 50s, or earlier.
Whilst his superiors and the younger cops are reflecting how things are changing.

Another thing is the amount of female nudity there was in thes films,
something not so common today. Also, casual discussion of domestic violence

The killer goes into a liquor store, looking very battered and bruised
from an earlier beating. The store owner asks what happened to him and
he replies "My wifes, brother. I hit her, so he hit me. Repeatedly" and
they both laugh about it.

Could you imagine people just casually laughing and joking about such
things today???

One other plot point that would never be shown in a mainstream action
film today. To show just how sick the killer is, we're told he's
abducted a 14 year old girl and demanding another ransom. As proof, he
sent her underwear for the parents to identify and in the ransom note
mentions what nice tits she has.

Later we see the girls naked body being recovered from a manhole
(obviously played by someone in their 20s) and its later mentioned the
killer raped her before killing her.

Bearing in mind, this person was supposed to be 14, there is no way they
would dare show anything like that or even mention about a person that
young being sexually assaulted.

Anyway, going to re-watch the sequels next to see how they progress.

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From: burke.dennings@cunting.hun

Simon T <darkangel5@REMOVETHISBITlineone.net> wrote:

Had to chuckle when the killer sends a ransom note to the Mayor's office demanding $100,000 and the mayor is saying "Where the hell am I going to
get that kind of money?". Bloody hell, you can't even buy a house for that

these days.

You can on the Leys, ask Gary.

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From: dsb@REMOVETHISBITbtinternet.com

On 03/06/2019 11:21, Simon T wrote:

A little off-topic for this group I suppose, but I recently got the
Dirty Harry Blu-Ray box-set and giving the original film a re-watch.

i really love the dirty harry series - in the same way I can watch the
death wish series over and over.
sometimes the basic ideas are the best - here's the bad guy, look how
evil he is, and here's someone who says 'sod the rules i'll kill him'
i especially like the one with the serial killer sniper - the guy who
plays that role is great.

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From: dsb@REMOVETHISBITbtinternet.com

On 03/06/2019 17:35, Dr Walpurgis wrote:

Simon T <darkangel5@REMOVETHISBITlineone.net> wrote:

Had to chuckle when the killer sends a ransom note to the Mayor's office
demanding $100,000 and the mayor is saying "Where the hell am I going to
get that kind of money?". Bloody hell, you can't even buy a house for that these days.

You can on the Leys, ask Gary.

you don't want to know how much I had to pay for my last house seriously
- especially compared to what I paid at 23 for my first, wish i'd have
bought ten.

also, oxford is other than london one of the most unaffordable places in Britain.
definitely no 100 grand houses even in a council area let alone my village.

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From: manowarkillsNOSPAM@netscape.net

On 6/3/2019 5:21 AM, Simon T wrote:

Also when he's assigned a rookie detective as a partner, one of his assosiates tells the kid not to take any dislikings personally as
"Callahan hates everyone equally. Limeys, micks, hebes, dagos, niggers, honkies, chinks, you name it."

The Rookie (who is clearly Latino) asks "What about Mexicans" and
Callahan replies "Especially Spics"

Bloody hell, can you imagine that sort of language being bandied about
in a police department, or even in a film, today????

You haven't seen GRAN TORINO or THE MULE have you? Much of the same type
of banter is in both films.

Andrew

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From: darkangel5@REMOVETHISBITlineone.net

On 03/06/2019 19:59, the dog from that film you saw wrote:

i especially like the one with the serial killer sniper - the guy who
plays that role is great.

That would be the first film, the killer was played by Andrew Robinson.

Robinson went on to play Garak in "Star Trek : Deep Space Nine". But he
had so much alien make-up on, I never realised it was him until about
the fourth series, which came as a surprise.



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From: manowarkillsNOSPAM@netscape.net

On 6/3/2019 2:37 PM, Simon T wrote:

On 03/06/2019 19:59, the dog from that film you saw wrote:

i especially like the one with the serial killer sniper - the guy who
plays that role is great.

That would be the first film, the killer was played by Andrew Robinson.

Robinson went on to play Garak in "Star Trek : Deep Space Nine". But he
had so much alien make-up on, I never realised it was him until about
the fourth series, which came as a surprise.

Robinson co-stars in the excellent crime film CHARLEY VARRICK. It is a
must see for fans of the genre and Walter Matthau.


Andrew

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From: darkangel5@REMOVETHISBITlineone.net

On 02/06/2019 21:32, Andrew wrote> You haven't seen GRAN TORINO or THE
MULE have you? Much of the same type> of banter is in both films.> > Andrew I've seen both and loved both.

However, Eastwood's character in these was lampooning politcally
incorrect throwbacks of yesteryear. Using language they knew that would
shock the audience.

What was shocking about the original Dirty Harry was that cops of that
era actually DID use that language and film makers weren't afraid to
show it in their films.

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From: DCartRow@aol.com

Andrew!!!

Great call on Charlie Varrick and Robinson's along with everybody else's terrific performances!!
Joe Don Baker plays one of the most gleefully sadistic characters in movie history!!
Another unknown tremendous vehicle for Andy Robinson is "The Trial of Bernard Getz" which American Playhouse televised in 1988. Hard to get and in stage form
but powerful!

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From: burke.dennings@cunting.hun

Andrew <manowarkillsNOSPAM@netscape.net> wrote:

Robinson co-stars in the excellent crime film CHARLEY VARRICK. It is a
must see for fans of the genre and Walter Matthau.

Brilliant film.

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From: dsb@REMOVETHISBITbtinternet.com

On 03/06/2019 20:37, Simon T wrote:

On 03/06/2019 19:59, the dog from that film you saw wrote:

i especially like the one with the serial killer sniper - the guy who
plays that role is great.

That would be the first film, the killer was played by Andrew Robinson.

Robinson went on to play Garak in "Star Trek : Deep Space Nine". But he
had so much alien make-up on, I never realised it was him until about
the fourth series, which came as a surprise.

i do wonder, in the 1970s, the pre internet age, if you wanted someone
to beat you up for money, how would you find such a person to hire their services?
was this a popular line of work?

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From: DCartRow@aol.com

"The Mechanic" makes for another gem!!

Jan Michael Vincent gets hoisted hard on his own petard at the end, baby!!

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From: giallovera@ULTRAMEGAgmail.com

i really love the dirty harry series - in the same way I can watch the
death wish series over and over.

Agreed, and in addition - any Charles Bronson film from the 70s and 80s.
10 TO MIDNIGHT and MR MAJESTYK are particularly rewatchable any time.

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On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 9:22:11 AM UTC-7, the dog from that film you saw wrote:

On 03/06/2019 20:37, Simon T wrote:

On 03/06/2019 19:59, the dog from that film you saw wrote:

i especially like the one with the serial killer sniper - the guy who
plays that role is great.

That would be the first film, the killer was played by Andrew Robinson.

Robinson went on to play Garak in "Star Trek : Deep Space Nine". But he
had so much alien make-up on, I never realised it was him until about
the fourth series, which came as a surprise.

i do wonder, in the 1970s, the pre internet age, if you wanted someone
to beat you up for money, how would you find such a person to hire their services?
was this a popular line of work?

Recently trying really hard to coordinate how to get the half mile from the hotel to Disneyland and where and how to meet up later since some of us were splitting up, I asked my mom "How the hell did we do this shit before cell phones?"

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