• Re: MY FRIEND DAHMER

    From The White Lady@1:229/2 to Jared on Thursday, March 07, 2019 08:14:48
    From: me@privacy.net

    Jared <bijgh@hotmail.com> wrote in news:2ebdff8f-c93e-4b02-b76d-13ef0e369a00@googlegroups.com:

    Jeff Dahmer goes to high school.

    Found this somewhat disappointing. The comic is the story of John
    Backderf's high school semi-friendship with Dahmer and Backderf's
    attempts to reconcile his memories of the weird kid with the notorious serial-killer he became. Ultimately Backderf is unable to explain what
    made the monster and Dahmer remains a cipher.

    Which in my opinion makes the movie's decision to shift the
    protagonist role to Dahmer himself a mistake.


    and a nonsense of the title.

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  • From Jared@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, March 06, 2019 20:03:54
    From: bijgh@hotmail.com

    Jeff Dahmer goes to high school.

    Found this somewhat disappointing. The comic is the story of John Backderf's high school semi-friendship with Dahmer and Backderf's attempts to reconcile his memories of the weird kid with the notorious serial-killer he became. Ultimately Backderf is unable to explain what made the monster and Dahmer remains a cipher.

    Which in my opinion makes the movie's decision to shift the protagonist role
    to Dahmer himself a mistake. Dahmer mopes around being weird but there's no insight into why he is what he is - in fact he's clearly a proto-serial killer right in the first scene of the film - while the more interesting story of a normal person's encounter with unimaginable insanity is dropped.

    Oh well, good acting and directing and a nice 70s feel - but read the comic.

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  • From Amos Nomore@1:229/2 to Jared on Thursday, March 07, 2019 17:39:01
    From: amosnomore@hotmail.com

    On 2019-03-07 03:03:54 +0000, Jared said:

    Oh well, good acting and directing and a nice 70s feel - but read the comic.

    Definitely well done film but did need to delve darker and deeper -
    worth a watch just to see scenes like the young Jeff totally spazzing
    out in the shopping mall, however. That kind of detail has been sorely underaddressed elsewhere.

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  • From Jared@1:229/2 to The White Lady on Thursday, March 07, 2019 22:47:51
    From: bijgh@hotmail.com

    On Thursday, March 7, 2019 at 6:14:51 PM UTC+11, The White Lady wrote:

    and a nonsense of the title.

    EXACTLY!

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  • From Amos Nomore@1:229/2 to Jared on Friday, March 08, 2019 01:08:58
    From: amosnomore@hotmail.com

    On 2019-03-08 05:50:16 +0000, Jared said:

    On Friday, March 8, 2019 at 10:39:03 AM UTC+11, Amos Nomore wrote:

    Definitely well done film but did need to delve darker and deeper -
    worth a watch just to see scenes like the young Jeff totally spazzing
    out in the shopping mall, however. That kind of detail has been sorely
    underaddressed elsewhere.

    What's it like 20 years later when you realise you were Jeffrey Dahmer's prom date? (Well she realised that on prom night but you know what I mean.)

    I went to high school at the same time and 60 miles from Dahmer (and
    even nearer to where Gacy did his thing, as I've discussed in detail previously). I must say - the attention to period-appropriate
    atmospheric realism displayed in MFD is exceptional for any film and
    deeply mesmerizing for someone who survived growing up in that region
    and time and similar circumstances. It brought back a ton of seriously
    fucked up adolescent memories. A solid 9/10 for me.

    Subsequent events have never been adequately addressed. The Jeremy
    Renner movie was not bad but somebody needs to give the Dahmer and Gacy
    stories the full-blown nasty cinematic treatment they deserve.

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  • From Dr Walpurgis@1:229/2 to Amos Nomore on Friday, March 08, 2019 08:35:08
    From: burke.dennings@cunting.hun

    On 2019-03-08 07:08:58 +0000, Amos Nomore said:

    Subsequent events have never been adequately addressed. The Jeremy
    Renner movie was not bad but somebody needs to give the Dahmer and Gacy stories the full-blown nasty cinematic treatment they deserve.

    HIS ONLY CRIME WAS TO LOVE TOO MUCH.

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  • From Jared@1:229/2 to Amos Nomore on Thursday, March 07, 2019 22:50:16
    From: bijgh@hotmail.com

    On Friday, March 8, 2019 at 10:39:03 AM UTC+11, Amos Nomore wrote:

    Definitely well done film but did need to delve darker and deeper -
    worth a watch just to see scenes like the young Jeff totally spazzing
    out in the shopping mall, however. That kind of detail has been sorely underaddressed elsewhere.

    What's it like 20 years later when you realise you were Jeffrey Dahmer's prom date? (Well she realised that on prom night but you know what I mean.)

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  • From The White Lady@1:229/2 to Amos Nomore on Friday, March 08, 2019 08:51:51
    From: me@privacy.net

    Amos Nomore <amosnomore@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:q5t4ea$h5t$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2019-03-08 05:50:16 +0000, Jared said:

    On Friday, March 8, 2019 at 10:39:03 AM UTC+11, Amos Nomore wrote:

    Definitely well done film but did need to delve darker and deeper -
    worth a watch just to see scenes like the young Jeff totally
    spazzing out in the shopping mall, however. That kind of detail has
    been sorely underaddressed elsewhere.

    What's it like 20 years later when you realise you were Jeffrey
    Dahmer's prom date? (Well she realised that on prom night but you
    know what I mean.)

    I went to high school at the same time and 60 miles from Dahmer (and
    even nearer to where Gacy did his thing, as I've discussed in detail previously). I must say - the attention to period-appropriate
    atmospheric realism displayed in MFD is exceptional for any film and
    deeply mesmerizing for someone who survived growing up in that region
    and time and similar circumstances. It brought back a ton of
    seriously fucked up adolescent memories. A solid 9/10 for me.


    Intriguing. I'll line it up for the weekend alongside this little
    motherfucker I've discovered on Prime:

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5340882/

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  • From Amos Nomore@1:229/2 to The White Lady on Friday, March 08, 2019 18:32:32
    From: amosnomore@hotmail.com

    On 2019-03-08 07:51:51 +0000, The White Lady said:

    Amos Nomore <amosnomore@hotmail.com> wrote in news:q5t4ea$h5t$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2019-03-08 05:50:16 +0000, Jared said:

    On Friday, March 8, 2019 at 10:39:03 AM UTC+11, Amos Nomore wrote:

    Definitely well done film but did need to delve darker and deeper -
    worth a watch just to see scenes like the young Jeff totally
    spazzing out in the shopping mall, however. That kind of detail has
    been sorely underaddressed elsewhere.

    What's it like 20 years later when you realise you were Jeffrey
    Dahmer's prom date? (Well she realised that on prom night but you
    know what I mean.)

    I went to high school at the same time and 60 miles from Dahmer (and
    even nearer to where Gacy did his thing, as I've discussed in detail
    previously). I must say - the attention to period-appropriate
    atmospheric realism displayed in MFD is exceptional for any film and
    deeply mesmerizing for someone who survived growing up in that region
    and time and similar circumstances. It brought back a ton of
    seriously fucked up adolescent memories. A solid 9/10 for me.


    Intriguing. I'll line it up for the weekend alongside this little motherfucker I've discovered on Prime:

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5340882/

    Oh splendid! I suppose you'll be inviting a bevy of littermates for a
    furry horror sleepover. Meow. What fun!!

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  • From Dr Walpurgis@1:229/2 to Jared on Saturday, March 09, 2019 22:22:52
    From: burke.dennings@cunting.hun

    On 2019-03-07 03:03:54 +0000, Jared said:

    Jeff Dahmer goes to high school.

    Found this somewhat disappointing. The comic is the story of John Backderf's high school semi-friendship with Dahmer and Backderf's attempts to reconcile his memories of the weird kid with the notorious serial-killer he became. Ultimately Backderf is unable to explain what made the monster and Dahmer remains a cipher.

    Which in my opinion makes the movie's decision to shift the protagonist role to Dahmer himself a mistake. Dahmer mopes around being weird but there's no insight into why he is what he is - in fact he's clearly a proto-serial
    killer
    right in the first scene of the film - while the more interesting story of a normal person's encounter with unimaginable insanity is dropped.

    Oh well, good acting and directing and a nice 70s feel - but read the comic.

    I just watched this.

    You know, it's years since I read Brian Masters' seminal book on
    Dahmer, but I'd don't recall him mentioning his teenage proclivity for
    SPACK ATTACKS?

    Nor that his mother was also DOOLALLY TAP.

    Still, a half-decent Saturday afternoon FEEL GOOD time-waster.

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  • From Jared@1:229/2 to Dr Walpurgis on Sunday, March 10, 2019 20:17:02
    From: bijgh@hotmail.com

    On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 8:22:55 AM UTC+11, Dr Walpurgis wrote:

    Still, a half-decent Saturday afternoon FEEL GOOD time-waster.

    Yes, perhaps it works better if you view it as a heart-warming coming-of-age story of a plucky young psycho finally shaking off the bullshit social conventions of small-town America and fulfilling his destiny.

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  • From Dr Walpurgis@1:229/2 to Jared on Monday, March 11, 2019 07:24:27
    From: burke.dennings@cunting.hun

    On 2019-03-11 02:17:02 +0000, Jared said:

    Still, a half-decent Saturday afternoon FEEL GOOD time-waster.

    Yes, perhaps it works better if you view it as a heart-warming coming-of-age story of a plucky young psycho finally shaking off the bullshit social conventions of small-town America and fulfilling his destiny.

    A sort of thinking man's STAND BY ME.

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  • From The White Lady@1:229/2 to Jared on Tuesday, March 12, 2019 08:09:34
    From: me@privacy.net

    Jared <bijgh@hotmail.com> wrote in news:2ebdff8f-c93e-4b02-b76d-13ef0e369a00@googlegroups.com:

    Jeff Dahmer goes to high school.

    Found this somewhat disappointing. The comic is the story of John
    Backderf's high school semi-friendship with Dahmer and Backderf's
    attempts to reconcile his memories of the weird kid with the notorious serial-killer he became. Ultimately Backderf is unable to explain what
    made the monster and Dahmer remains a cipher.

    That's the movie I want to see.


    Which in my opinion makes the movie's decision to shift the
    protagonist role to Dahmer himself a mistake. Dahmer mopes around
    being weird but there's no insight into why he is what he is - in fact
    he's clearly a proto-serial killer right in the first scene of the
    film - while the more interesting story of a normal person's encounter
    with unimaginable insanity is dropped.


    It was just so fucking boring - I bet even your formative years were
    more exciting than that. I've gone right off Dahmer now.


    Oh well, good acting and directing and a nice 70s feel - but read the
    comic.

    Damn, I've spent all my pocket money on BLACKJACKS.

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  • From Jared@1:229/2 to The White Lady on Wednesday, March 13, 2019 20:35:32
    From: bijgh@hotmail.com

    On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 6:09:36 PM UTC+11, The White Lady wrote:

    It was just so fucking boring - I bet even your formative years were
    more exciting than that.

    Ha.

    I've gone right off Dahmer now.

    Aren't they all boring losers? That's the point.

    Damn, I've spent all my pocket money on BLACKJACKS.

    Borrow it from the library like I did.

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  • From Beaver_Fever@live.com@1:229/2 to Jared on Thursday, August 27, 2020 12:38:45
    On Wednesday, March 6, 2019 at 7:03:56 PM UTC-8, Jared wrote:
    Jeff Dahmer goes to high school.

    Found this somewhat disappointing. The comic is the story of John Backderf's high school semi-friendship with Dahmer and Backderf's attempts to reconcile his memories of the weird kid with the notorious serial-killer he became. Ultimately Backderf is unable to explain what made the monster and Dahmer remains a cipher.

    Which in my opinion makes the movie's decision to shift the protagonist role to Dahmer himself a mistake. Dahmer mopes around being weird but there's no insight into why he is what he is - in fact he's clearly a proto-serial
    killer
    right in the first scene of the film - while the more interesting story of a normal person's encounter with unimaginable insanity is dropped.

    Oh well, good acting and directing and a nice 70s feel - but read the comic.

    It was kinda lame but I was too stoned to change the channel and it was too late to blast music.

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  • From Blackwingbear@1:229/2 to Jared on Thursday, August 27, 2020 17:10:02
    From: blackwingbear@gmail.com

    On Wednesday, March 6, 2019 at 10:03:56 PM UTC-5, Jared wrote:
    Found this somewhat disappointing. The comic is the story of John Backderf's high school semi-friendship with Dahmer and Backderf's attempts to reconcile his memories of the weird kid with the notorious serial-killer he became. Ultimately Backderf is unable to explain what made the monster and Dahmer remains a cipher.

    I like the movie, but agree that it doesn't really go into his ulcers/stomach-disorders, his fucked-up relationship with his father, or any of
    the other problems that kinda led to his loneliness.

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  • From Blackwingbear@1:229/2 to Beaver...@live.com on Thursday, August 27, 2020 17:12:20
    From: blackwingbear@gmail.com

    On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 3:38:47 PM UTC-4, Beaver...@live.com wrote:
    It was kinda lame but I was too stoned to change the channel and it was too
    late to blast music.

    It's never too late to introduce the neighbors to good music. Then again, I'm back in the country & don't have to worry about what neighbors a mile away think.

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