• Re: Experts Claim They've Found the Holy Grail in Spanish Basilica

    From Paul S Person@1:229/2 to hayesstw@telkomsa.net on Monday, March 04, 2019 10:44:00
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    On Mon, 04 Mar 2019 17:33:56 +0200, Steve Hayes
    <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:

    Experts Claim They've Found the Holy Grail in Spanish Basilica

    ABC News

    •April 1, 2014

    https://t.co/YWbrJEZway

    It's been a Hollywood staple as well as a 2,000-year-old mystery. What >happened to the elusive Holy Grail, the cup Jesus used at the Last
    Supper?

    But now, two historians have come forward saying the jewel-encrusted
    goblet has been inside the San Isid oro Basilica, in Leon, Spain, for
    the last 1,000 years.

    "This has been an incredibly popular endeavor to try to find something
    that Jesus touched," Dr. Robert Cargill, an assistant professor of
    classics and religious studies at the University of Iowa, told ABC
    News.

    The two researchers, Margarita Torres and Jose Manuel Ortega del Rio,
    authors of the book, "Kings of the Grail," believe they found
    conclusive evidence from ancient Egyptian scrolls documenting that
    Muslims stole the infamous cup from Jerusalem and took it to Egypt.
    They say it was then disguised with jewels and eventually given to
    Spanish King Fer dinand I as a gift.

    How "ancient" can those "scrolls" be if they are talking about
    /Muslims/? Do these guys have no idea at all of history?

    I saw /The Maltese Falcon/ recently. The Black Bird made more sense
    than this.
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    "I have envied him long since."

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  • From Steve Hayes@1:229/2 to psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid on Tuesday, March 05, 2019 09:45:38
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    From: hayesstw@telkomsa.net

    On Mon, 04 Mar 2019 09:44:00 -0800, Paul S Person
    <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:

    On Mon, 04 Mar 2019 17:33:56 +0200, Steve Hayes
    <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:

    The two researchers, Margarita Torres and Jose Manuel Ortega del Rio, >>authors of the book, "Kings of the Grail," believe they found
    conclusive evidence from ancient Egyptian scrolls documenting that
    Muslims stole the infamous cup from Jerusalem and took it to Egypt.
    They say it was then disguised with jewels and eventually given to
    Spanish King Fer dinand I as a gift.

    How "ancient" can those "scrolls" be if they are talking about
    /Muslims/? Do these guys have no idea at all of history?

    The "when" is left vague.

    If Muslims stole it from Jerusalem, it must have been after the Muslim
    conquest of that city, and presumably also after their conquest of
    Egypt. But "eventually" is a pretty indeterminite time.

    I think Fardles has just as good a claim.



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  • From Steve Hayes@1:229/2 to All on Monday, March 04, 2019 18:33:56
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    From: hayesstw@telkomsa.net

    Experts Claim They've Found the Holy Grail in Spanish Basilica

    ABC News

    •April 1, 2014

    https://t.co/YWbrJEZway

    It's been a Hollywood staple as well as a 2,000-year-old mystery. What
    happened to the elusive Holy Grail, the cup Jesus used at the Last
    Supper?

    But now, two historians have come forward saying the jewel-encrusted
    goblet has been inside the San Isid oro Basilica, in Leon, Spain, for
    the last 1,000 years.

    "This has been an incredibly popular endeavor to try to find something
    that Jesus touched," Dr. Robert Cargill, an assistant professor of
    classics and religious studies at the University of Iowa, told ABC
    News.

    The two researchers, Margarita Torres and Jose Manuel Ortega del Rio,
    authors of the book, "Kings of the Grail," believe they found
    conclusive evidence from ancient Egyptian scrolls documenting that
    Muslims stole the infamous cup from Jerusalem and took it to Egypt.
    They say it was then disguised with jewels and eventually given to
    Spanish King Fer dinand I as a gift.

    The authors claim there is "no doubt" they have found one of the most intriguing artifacts in the Christian faith.

    However, Cargill begs to differ.

    "I don't think we'll ever find the Holy Grail," he explained. "Even if
    we had it, there would be no way to confirm it was the grail."

    The latest discovery is stirring new intrigue close to the Easter
    season as thousands of believers are now flocking to see the golden
    chalice, which, despite being inside the Spanish museum for a thousand
    years, has only been on display since the 1950s.

    Before that, it had been placed in storage.

    https://t.co/YWbrJEZway
    --
    Stephen Hayes, Author of The Year of the Dragon
    Sample or purchase The Year of the Dragon: https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/907935
    Web site: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
    Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
    E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk

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  • From conrrrod@gmail.com@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, March 09, 2019 01:37:12
    No, Hitler took it with him to Neuschwabenland (Antarctica) in a U-boat after faking his own death

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