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In article <AZlbE.67597$qz5.30610@fx37.iad>
FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer <FBInCIAnNSATe...@yahoo.com> posted:

Recent Slavic History A Replay of the Past?

My ancestor Hindus knew this most complicated concept
thousands of years ago. The question is how the hell did
they know about "inner space" when the rest of the human
species were rolling in the mud like pigs at that time.

"The tradition takes the outside world to be mirrored in
the inner space of the mind"

Western christians have ZERO KNOWLEDGE about these concepts
even today.

Russians/Slavs should dump this VIRUS called christianity
and go back to their roots.

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https://medium.com/@subhashkak1/is-recent-slavic-history-a-replay-of-the-past-fe8abdb60447

Is Recent Slavic History A Replay of the Past?

Subhash Kak

Jun 22, 2018

Russia has been the West's great adversary during the last
hundred years. First, as Soviet Union-�-before its collapse
in 1991-�-it battled Western capitalism throughout the
world using the ideology of communism. Now its appeal is to
nationalism and support of movements that wish to weaken
and break up the European Union.

Some claim that Vladimir Putin is using nationalism and the
Russian Orthodox Church for political ends. In reality, the
Russian tradition is fraught with complexity. Although the
Church serves as a convenient institution to rally around,
there is a strong undercurrent amongst many Slavs to be
reconnected to the ancient Slavic religion. Furthermore,
the practised religion is not easily disentangled from the
ancient ways.

The Christianization of the Slavs was a slow process that
was resisted for a long time, and eventually Christianity
became a largely superficial over-structure which in the
words of Church Slavonic vocabulary is a "double faith"
(dvoeverie in Russian). Dvoeverie is also used to
characterize the revival of Slavic Native Faith (Rodnovery)
and Vedism.

The Slavic rulers swore regularly by their god Perun (Skt.
Parjanya). The conversion of the Kievan ruler, Vladimir,
which marks the major shift in the history of the Slavs,
took place in 988 and The Primary Chronicle, compiled about
1111, informs us that after his baptism, Vladimir directed
that the idol of Perun "be bound to a horse's tail and
pulled from the hill. He appointed twelve men to beat the
idol with sticks. While it was being dragged along the
stream to the Dnieper, the unbelievers wept over it."
Historically, the popular resistance to Christianity was
led by priests, and it persisted for centuries with the
Slavs regularly re-embracing their original religion
(relapsi sunt denuo ad paganismus).

The Germans used both violence and tithing to induce the
Slavs to convert. In the 8th century, when the missionary
Boniface asked Pope Zachary about Slav serfs working on
church lands, he received the reply that "if they pay
tribute, they will think the land is theirs. But made to
pay tithes they will know who is the lord of the land."

The Americal historian James Westfall Thompson wrote in
1916 on the conversion of the Baltic Slavs by the German
Church. He believed the treatment meted out to the Slavs by
the Germans had a parallel in how Spanish America treated
Peru in "the spoliation of a weaker people by an avaricious
priest class backed up by the sword of a powerful
government."

Thompson added: "[The Slavs] accepted Christianity as they
accepted German domination, superficially and morosely."
There were many revolts by the Slavs against the tyranny of
the Germans. But although the Church eventually triumphed,
the faith as practiced remained deeply mystical, and quite
different from the dogma of the Church. Fyodor Dostoveysky
wrote about the religion of the sadness and suffering of
Russia as fundamental to the Russian spirit.

The historian George Richards wrote in 1918: "[T]he
religion of Russia is broader and deeper than the creed,
polity, cultus, and precepts of the Church of Russia. The
life of the spirit defies definition� It consists, not of
temples and sacraments, priests and monks, dogmas and
canons, but of moods and motives... and ideals-all welling
up from the soul's depth."

He added: "Her literature, art, music, philosophy,
religion, theater, and dancing are something intrinsically
Russian. Her dominant spirit is not the product of
Byzantine Christianity. It is rooted in the Slavic nature,�
and in oriental mysticism. The remote past with its
passions, dreams, fears, and hopes throbs in the living
present."

It is recognized by scholars that the main deities listed
in the Kiev Chronicle are Vedic deities with some evolution
in meaning that somewhat parallels the changes that
occurred in India. The linguist Roman Jakobson listed many
key Slavic terms and the corresponding Sanskrit and Iranian
ones; these are correctly seen as Vedic since there is no
evidence that the Slavs ever embraced the Zoroastrian
religion.

I have written elsewhere on the major parallels between
Slavic and Vedic traditions. Here is some additional
information. As in India, divinity for Slavs is nebo (Skt.
-- nabha, sky; Kashmiri nab, sky), and div is a point of
light that can be used variously. The generic name of God
is bog (Skt bhag -- or ------). Some important Slavic
religious notions are faith, vera (Skt. pari, going round,
as in Hindi phera, which signifies faith), holy and sacred,
svet (Skt. sveta for bright), peace and agreement, mir
(Skt. maitri) and paradise, rai (Skt. rayi).

Some terms in Slavic are closer to Iranian forms of
Sanskrit words, but that is to be expected since the
Iranians were the immediate neighbors of the Slavs. We see
this most strikingly in the Slavic divinity Simargl, which
is clearly close in linguistic terms to the Iranian winged
monster, Simorg (Skt. Syena-m-ga, falcon bird). But is
usage amongst the Slavs as divinity is quite like in the
great Vedic Agnicayana fire altar, where it symbolizes
time.

Apart from the usage of Vedic terms for a variety of
philosophical and religious concepts, the Slavic conception
of divinity as impersonal is identical to the Vedic. The
Slavic religion must be seen as repesenting a description
of the inner space of the mind, which is consistent with
its conception as a mystical tradition based on
contemplation.

The One Reality in the Vedic religion has an expression in
triplicate in various sets of polarities together with the
process between the two, as in examples of light, activity,
and darkness and God, Goddess, and attributes.

The common Slavic polarities are:

Rod-Rozanica like Skt. Rudra-Rudra-i. (Rod, by itself,
could also be -ta, the Law)

Sud-Sudenica like Skt. Siddha, ------ (Kashmiri se-d, for
Siva)

Belobog-Chernbog (white god- black god, Skt. bhadra-bhaga
and cherun-bhaga, auspicious and inauspicious gods
(Kashmiri cherun ------means Skt. ------)

Zhibog-Zhiva (Skt. Sivabhaga-Siva, -----, ----)

Khors Dazhbog and Jutrobog. This is Skt. Svar (----- Sun or
Light), Dak-abhag ------ for the Sun and Candrabhag -------
- for the Moon.

The triplicateness of reality is represented by Triglav,
Tribog (Skt. tribhaga, ------). The three-headed divinity
encompassing the three divisions of the universe into
heaven, movement, and earth, or past, present, and future,
and so on. Triglav is interpreted as the equivalent of Skt.
Trimurti.

Svarog (Skt. svarga ------) represnting heaven, which is
where heroes go.

Svetovid (Skt. Svetavid, ---------, Lord of Light) is
viewed as four-headed, with each representing a direction
of space. In some traditions, the white northward head is
Svarog, the red westward head is Perun, the black southward
head is Lada (Earth Goddess), and the green eastward head
is Mokosh (Goddess of Waters as Skt. Mok-a, who is also
seen as a form of Aredvi Sura Anahita, or Sura Sarasvati);
two are male and two female.

Ognebog (Skt. Agnibhaga, -------, Fire God.) He is equated
with Simargl, since the fire ritual took place on the
Falcon altar.

The above list represents just some of the symbols of the
Vedic system, which the tradition claims is a "science of
consciousness". The tradition takes the outside world to be
mirrored in the inner space of the mind and it believes
that "true knowledge" is possible.

Given the richness of this tradition and its new relevance
in the Age of Machines where humans, who are alienated from
the Spirit, wish to know this mystery more than ever
before, it will become increasingly attractive to new
seekers, which will lead to further faultlines in the
Slavic lands.

The Bolshevik Revolution of 1917 was a rebellion similar to
those that had occurred earlier against the Germans;
likewise, the throwing off the yoke of Communism in 1991
expressed a yearning for a mythic past. The Slavs haven't
yet made peace with this past, and so one would expect that
their angst will persist for much more time.

Dhanyavaad for posting the article.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi Om Shanti http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.jai-maharaj

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