• Re: Carlyle

    From Steve Hayes@1:229/2 to simo.runnel@gmail.com on Monday, September 11, 2017 05:27:24
    From: hayesstw@telkomsa.net

    On Sat, 9 Sep 2017 23:53:29 -0700 (PDT), simo.runnel@gmail.com wrote:

    How popular is Thomas Carlyle in the world today?
    I have translated his books "Past and Present" and "On Heroes, Hero-Worship, and The Heroic in History".

    I don't think I've read anything by Carlyle.

    But G.K. Chesterton mentions him:

    "Much vague and sentimental journalism has been poured out to the
    effect that Christianity is akin to democracy, and most of it is
    scarcely strong or clear enough to refute the fact that the two things
    have often quarrelled. The real ground upon which Christianity and
    democracy are one is very much deeper. The one specially and
    peculiarly un-Christian idea is the idea of Carlyle -- the idea that
    the man should rule who feels that he can rule. Whatever else is
    Christian, this is heathen. If our faith comments on government at
    all, its comment must be this -- that the man should rule who does
    NOT think that he can rule. Carlyle's hero may say, "I will be king";
    but the Christian saint must say "Nolo episcopari." If the great
    paradox of Christianity means anything, it means this -- that we
    must take the crown in our hands, and go hunting in dry places and
    dark corners of the earth until we find the one man who feels himself
    unfit to wear it. Carlyle was quite wrong; we have not got to crown
    the exceptional man who knows he can rule. Rather we must crown the
    much more exceptional man who knows he can't."


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    Steve Hayes
    http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
    http://khanya.wordpress.com

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  • From simo.runnel@gmail.com@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, September 09, 2017 23:53:29
    How popular is Thomas Carlyle in the world today?
    I have translated his books "Past and Present" and "On Heroes, Hero-Worship, and The Heroic in History".

    Simo Runnel,
    Estonia

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  • From simo.runnel@gmail.com@1:229/2 to All on Monday, September 11, 2017 01:57:26
    Carlyle had more heroes than only rulers. His heroes are also poets like Dante or Shakespeare. Some people appreciate Carlyle because of his style, some people because he gave more autobiographical material than other British writers of his time. Carlyle
    did not support democracy, I support, but I like Carlyle's idea, that people must work for better world, not only for money.

    Simo Runnel,
    Estonia

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