• Re: Colonial Myth of Aryan Invasion Debunked

    From Dr. Jai Maharaj@1:229/2 to All on Monday, November 13, 2017 23:25:40
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    M.B. Richards et al Aryan Invasion DNA data are mostly
    wrong and confabulated -- Premendra Priyadarshi

    June 29, 2017

    "Interestingly one of the popular academic volumes
    recently published in France is called 'Mais o� sont
    pass�s les Indo-Europ�ens?' by Jean-Paul Demoule which
    demonstrates quite scientifically that the story of Indo-
    Europeans moving about Eurasia and bringing their
    civilization from Europe to India is in fact
    untenable." -- Come Carpentier

    There is an axiom in IT: Garbage in, Garbage out. This
    seems to have happened with M.B. Richards et al trying to
    use genetics to justify fraudulent Aryan Invasion Theory.
    Read on Premendra Priyadarshi's review of the unreliable
    and false article of M.B. Richards et al.

    S. Kalyanaraman
    Sarasvati Research Center

    Continues at:

    http://bharatkalyan97.blogspot.com/2017/06/mb-richards-et-al-aryan-invasion-dna.html

    Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
    Om Shanti

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  • From simo.runnel@gmail.com@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 02:51:45
    One historian asked:
    if all people in India have the same origin,
    why have they different colour of skin?

    Simo Runnel,
    Estonia

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  • From Dr. Jai Maharaj@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 16:09:24
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    Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman

    Monday, July 18, 2011

    Harvard Donkey trial and equus sivalensis of India which
    debunks the AIT horse import theory

    http://bharatkalyan97.blogspot.com/2011/07/harvard-donkey-trial-and-equus.html

    Harvard Donkey trial and equus sivalensis of India which
    debunks the AIT horse import theory

    Sottovoce: Harvard Donkey Trial is another name for the
    CAPEEM lawsuit argued in a California court in the
    context questioning reliance on AIT theory in California
    Textbooks. A Harvard argument was that what was referred
    to as horse in ancient texts of India was in fact a
    donkey.

    Thanks to Rohit Sikka for the exquisite reference cited at

    http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/IndiaArchaeology/message/12791

    - S. Kalyanaraman

    Twenty Seventh Annual Report of the Bureau of Animal
    Industry for the Year 1910 (Feb. 10, 1912) United States
    Bureau of Animal Industry

    Here are some key excerpts from the report which should
    set AIT Arabian horse-import into India proponents to
    rethink and examine the possibility that references to
    horses in the Rigveda may refer to equus sivalensis type
    of horses (NOT donkeys as shown in the Harvard Donkey
    Trial). Note: Note: It is likely that the tonga-s found
    on the village streets on the foothills of Siwalik ranges
    are in fact carts drawn by the species of small types of
    equus sivalensis.

    Excerpts:

    In a paper published in 1904: on The Multiple Origin of
    Horses and Ponies,^ I recognized three distinct types of
    horses, viz, the Prejvalsky, Celtie, and Norse types. In
    1907 I pointed out that these three types might be known
    as the "steppe," "plateau," and "forest" types,' and in
    1909 added the " Siwalik " type to include horses allied
    to Equus sivalensis of the Indian Pliocene deposits.*
    (p.163)

    Up to the end of last century it was generally taken for
    granted that in all the modern horses the face is nearly
    in a line with the cranium, that horses with short-
    pillared molars have long been extinct, and that the
    broad cannon (metacarpal and metatarsal) bones of Shires
    and Clydesdales are the product of artificial selection.
    Now, however, it is realized (1) that though in some
    modem breeds the face is short and in a line with the
    cranium, in others it is long and so strongly bent
    downward that it forms, as in the Baringo zebra, an angle
    of nearly 20 deg. with the cranium; (2) that in some
    fossil Pleistocene horses the cannon bones are relatively
    as short and broad as in Shires and Clydesdales, and (3)
    that in some modern horses the internal pillar of the
    molars is as short as in the oldest true horse hitherto
    discovered -- ^the Equus sivalensis of the Siwalik hills
    of northern India. The only horse skulls from the
    Pleistocene deposits of Europe, sufficiently well
    preserved to admit of the relation of the face to the
    cranium being accurately determined, are those found in
    the grottoes of Grimaldi near Mentone, and the only well-
    preserved Pliocene horse skulls hitherto found in Asia
    belong to Equus sivalensis of India. But notwithstanding
    the absence of well preserved skulls it has been possible
    by making use of new methods to obtain a considerable
    amount of evidence in support of the view that domestic
    horses had a multiple origin, that they include amongst
    their ancestors not only varieties allied to the wild
    horse which still survives in Mongolia, and varieties
    adapted for a forest life, but also varieties specialized
    for ranging over boundless deserts and plateaus, and for
    living amongst foothills and upland valleys.(p.165)

    Bearing all these facts in mind, it may be provisionally
    assumed that Equus silvalensis of India was a tall,
    broad-browed horse characterized by a long, tapering
    deflected face and an interorbital prominence, a long
    neck, high withers, and a high-set-on tail. As Arabs and
    Indian horses with a prominence between the eyes are
    usually fleet but of an uncertain temper, it is extremely
    probable that Equus sivalensis belonged to a fleet race
    characterized by an indomitable disposition. (p.174)

    Source:

    http://www.jrbooksonline.com/HTML-docs/OUT%20OF%20STEP.htm

    Out of step by Arnold Spencer Leese (c. 1951).

    Horse-drawn carriage used in Allahabad.

    http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSwlUH93Q15vZikQK-l0msKXORWvbDOaoxuTpmAHqZLfZJeg6lxBA

    Horse-drawn tongas transport pilgrims around the many sights in town.
    Rajgir, Bihar.

    http://www.archive.org/stream/annualreportbur03indugoog/annualreportbur03indugoog_djvu.txt

    The multiple origin of horses and ponies (1904) by J.
    Cossar Ewart Nature, Volume 69, Issue 1799, pp. 590-596
    (1904). DOI: 10.1038/069590a0

    Full text of the article at

    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v69/n1799/pdf/069590a0.pdf

    (Purchase costs US $32).

    Abstract

    Now that systematic attempts are being made to improve
    native breeds of horses in various parts of the world, it
    is obviously desirable to settle once for all whether, as
    is alleged, occidental as well as oriental and African
    races and breeds have sprung from the same wild
    progenitors, and more especially if all ponies are merely
    dwarf specimens of one or more of the recognised domestic
    breeds of horses. To be in a position to arrive at a
    conclusion as to the origin of the various kinds of
    domestic horses, and at the same time find an answer to
    the important and oft-repeated question, What is a pony?

    End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman

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  • From Dr. Jai Maharaj@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 14:49:30
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    Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman

    Two genetic studies negate the indological ATT, AMT, AIT

    Two genetic studies by scientists including Gyaneshwer
    Chaubey and Toomas Kivisild which negate the Aryan Trickle-
    in/ Tourist/Migration /Invasion Theory and point to the
    indigenous and autochthonous evolution of populations and
    languages of Bharatam that is India.

    Congratulations to Gyaneshwer Chaubey and the team of
    researchers led by Toomas Kivisild .

    - S. Kalyanaraman

    Int J Hum Genet, 8(1-2): 41-50 (2008)

    Language Shift by Indigenous Population: A Model Genetic
    Study in South Asia

    Gyaneshwer Chaubey1,2*, Mait Metspalu1, Monika Karmin1,
    Kumarasamy Thangaraj2, Siiri Rootsi1, Juri Parik1, Anu
    Solnik1, Deepa Selvi Rani2, Vijay Kumar Singh2, B. Prathap
    Naidu,

    Alla G. Reddy2, Ene Metspalu1, Lalji Singh2, Toomas
    Kivisild1,3 and Richard Villems1

    1. Department of Evolutionary Biology, Institute of
    Molecular and Cell Biology, University of Tartu and
    Estonian Biocentre, Tartu, Estonia 2. Centre for Cellular
    and Molecular Biology, Hyderabad, India 3. Leverhulme
    Centre of Human Evolutionary Studies, The Henry Wellcome
    Building, University of Cambridge, Fitzwilliam Street,
    Cambridge, CB2 1QH, UK

    KEYWORDS Mushar; language shift; mtDNA; Y-chromosome

    ABSTRACT Language shift is a phenomenon where a new
    language is adopted by a population with virtually no
    influence on its genetic makeup. We report here the results
    of a case study, carried out on the Mushar populations,
    which is thought to have undergone language shift from
    Munda (an Austro-Asiatic language) to Hindi (an Indo-
    European language). We compared the mtDNA and Y-chromosomal
    phylogenies of this population with those of the
    neighbouring Indo-European and Austro-Asiatic speaking
    populations, standing at similar social status. The results
    revealed much closer genetic affinity of the Mushar people
    to the neighbouring Austro-Asiatic (Mundari) populations,
    than to the neighbouring Hindi-speaking populations. This
    example shows that the language shift as such is not
    necessarily a signal for a rapid genetic admixture, either
    maternally or paternally.

    Corresponding Author: Gyaneshwer Chaubey,

    Department of Evolutionary Biology, Tartu University

    and Estonian Biocentre, Riia 23 Tartu, 51010

    Estonia Telephone: (372) 7 375 052 Fax: (372) 7 420 194

    E-mail: gy...@ebc.ee

    Full text can be downloaded from: http://tinyurl.com/2z3tcb

    Hum Hered 2008;66:1-9 DOI: 10.1159/000114160

    Maternal Footprints of Southeast Asians in North India

    Kumarasamy Thangaraj a Gyaneshwer Chaubey a, b, n Toomas
    Kivisild b, c Deepa Selvi Rani a Vijay Kumar Singh a
    Thanseem Ismail a Denise Carvalho-Silva d Mait Metspalu b
    L.V.K.S. Bhaskar aAlla G. Reddy a Sarat Chandra e Veena
    Pande f B. Prathap Naidu a Niharika Adarsh gAbhilasha Verma
    h Inaganti Amara Jyothi i Chandana Basu Mallick j Nidhi
    Shrivastava k Ragala Devasena l Babita Kumari m Amit Kumar
    Singh n Shailendra Kumar Dhar Dwivedi n Shefali Singh n
    Geeta Rao n Pranav Gupta n Vartika Sonvane o Kavita Kumari
    m Afsar Basha p

    K.R. Bhargavi i Albert Lalremruata q Arvind Kumar Gupta j
    Gurukamal Kaur r K.K. Reddy s A. Papa Rao s Richard Villems
    b Chris Tyler-Smith d Lalji Singh a *

    a Centre for Cellular and Molecular Biology, Hyderabad,
    India; b Estonian Biocentre and Tartu University, Tartu,
    Estonia;c Leverhulme Centre of Human Evolutionary Studies,
    University of Cambridge, Cambridge, d The Wellcome
    TrustSanger Institute, Hinxton Cambs, UK; e Nagaland
    University, Nagaland, f Kumaun University, Nainital, g BIMR
    College ofLife Science, Gwalior, h Bundelkhand University,
    Jhansi, i JJ College of Arts and Science, Pudukottai, j APS
    University,Rewa, k GGD University, Bilaspur, l DS College
    of Arts and Science for women, Perambalur, m TM Bhagalpur
    University,Bhagalpu r, n VBS Purvanchal University,
    Jaunpur, o BarkatUllah University, Bhopal, p St. Josph's PG
    College, Kurnool,q Loyola College, Chennai, r Guru Nanak
    Dev University, s S. V. University, Tirupati, India

    Abstract

    We have analyzed 7,137 samples from 125 different caste,
    tribal and religious groups of India and 99 samples from
    three populations of Nepal for the length variation in the
    COII/tRNA Lys region of mtDNA. Samples showing length
    variation were subjected to detailed phylogenetic analysis
    based on HVS-I and informative coding region sequence
    variation. The overall frequencies of the 9-bp deletion and
    insertion variants in South Asia were 1.9 and 0.6%,
    respectively. We have also defined a novel deep-rooting
    haplogroup M43 and identified the rare haplogroup H14 in
    Indian populations carrying the 9-bp deletion by complete
    mtDNA sequencing. Moreover, we redefined haplogroup M6 and
    dissected it into two well-defined subclades. The presence
    of haplogroups F1 and B5a in Uttar Pradesh suggests minor
    maternal contribution from Southeast Asia to Northern
    India. The occurrence of haplogroup F1 in the Nepalese
    sample implies that Nepal might have served as a bridge for
    the flow of eastern lineages to India. The presence of R6
    in the Nepalese, on the other hand, suggests that the gene
    flow between India and Nepal has been reciprocal.

    Received: March 21, 2007

    Accepted after revision: August 27, 2007

    Published online: January 28, 2008

    Dr. Lalji Singh/Dr. K. Thangaraj

    Centre for Cellular and Molecular Biology, Uppal Road,
    Hyderabad-500 007 (India)

    Tel. +91 40 2716 0789, Fax +91 40 2716 0591

    E-Mail la...@ccmb.res.in , tha...@ccmb.res.in

    http://tinyurl.com/yrdz5b

    End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman

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  • From Dr. Jai Maharaj@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 16:48:55
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    Forwarded message from M.

    Another instance of genetics going against AIT/AMT

    Friday, May 27, 2011

    http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/living/the-story-of-our-origins

    Excepts below (emphasis added):

    I feel *R1a1 originated here and contributed to Central
    Asia* rather than the other way around

    - RNK Bamezai, director of the National Centre of Applied
    Human Genetics

    Many major rival models of the origin of the Hindu caste
    system co-exist despite extensive studies, each with
    associated genetic evidences. One of the major factors
    that has still kept the origin of the Indian caste system
    obscure is the unresolved question of the origin of Y-
    haplogroup R1a1, at times associated with a male-mediated
    major genetic influx from Central Asia or Eurasia, which
    has contributed to the higher castes in India. Y-
    haplogroup R1a1 has a widespread distribution and high
    frequency across Eurasia, Central Asia and the Indian
    subcontinent... To resolve these issues, we screened 621
    Y-chromosomes (of Brahmins occupying the upper-most caste
    position and schedule castes/tribals occupying the lower-
    most positions)... for conclusions. A peculiar
    observation of the highest frequency (up to 72.22%) of Y-
    haplogroup R1a1 in Brahmins hinted at its presence as a
    founder lineage for this caste group. Further,
    observation of R1a1 in different tribal population
    groups, existence of Y-haplogroup R1a in ancestors, and
    extended phylogenetic analyses of the pooled dataset of
    530 Indians, 224 Pakistanis and 276 Central Asians and
    Eurasians bearing the R1a1 haplogroup *supported the
    autochthonous [indigenous] origin of R1a1 lineage in
    India** and a tribal link to Indian Brahmins.*

    - From a 2009 paper in Journal of Human Genetics by
    Bamezai, et. al.

    Thus, a large part of Central Asia, Southern Russia,
    Ukraine onwards to the Czech Republic may well be
    populated by a 15,000-year-old *migration from India*.

    ..the proportion of R1a1 in some Brahmin groups such as
    those of West Bengal is as high as 72 per cent. This
    indicates that the origins of Brahmins as a caste may
    well lie in the R1a1 haplogroup. But since the antiquity
    of the Ra1a haplogroup in tribals such as Central India�s
    Sahariyas is older than it is among Brahmins, it is
    reasonable to believe that *Brahmins may not be entrants
    from outside but may have originated as a caste from the
    tribal population of this country.*

    End of forwarded message from M.

    Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
    Om Shanti

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  • From Dr. Jai Maharaj@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, November 15, 2017 15:56:20
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    Arindam Banerjee posted:

    . . . Hindutva is a political position and
    I am not political.

    What Hindutva seeks

    Ashutosh Varshney's analysis misinterprets Savarkar's own
    writings.

    Written by Ram Madhav
    Saturday, March 29, 2014

    Hinduness as a cultural identity that this ancient nation
    has come to acquire is what Hindu nationalists have
    always propagated.

    Referring to V.D. Savarkar's Hindutva as the basic work
    of Hindu nationalists, Ashutosh Varshney highlights what
    he surmises as the "three ideas" that constitute the
    "thematic core" of their ideology ('Modi the Moderate',
    IE, March 27). First, Hindus are the primary, or
    exclusive, owners of the Indian nation. India is a Hindu
    rashtra (nation). Second, two minorities -- Christians and
    especially Muslims -- have a profound, ambivalent
    relationship with India. Third, caste divisions within
    Hinduism and caste-based politics need to be minimised,
    for they undermine Hindu unity. The lower castes should
    follow the Brahminical model of Hinduism.

    Hinduness as a cultural identity that this ancient nation
    has come to acquire is what Hindu nationalists have
    always propagated. In this proposition, Hindu doesn't
    represent any religion or mode of worship. Instead, it is
    a set of values that have come to be known as the
    Sanatana Dharma. Savarkar himself had given a clear
    definition to the word "Hindu" in his book: Aasindhu
    sindhu paryantaa Yasya Bharata Bhoomika/ Pitrubhu
    Punyabhuchaiva Tavai Hinduriti Smritah. Translated,
    "Those who regard this land of Bharat spread between the
    river Sindhu (in the north) and the ocean Sindhu (Sindhu
    Sagar -- Indian Ocean in the south) as their Pitrubhumi
    (fatherland) and Punyabhumi (holy land) are called
    Hindus".

    It is more about an emotional bonding with the country in
    which they were born. But Savarkar never differentiated
    Hindus and Muslims as superior and inferior. In the
    manifesto of "Hindu Rashtra", which Varshney had referred
    to as the basic text, Savarkar states: "Religious
    minorities will have all the right to practise their
    religion in a Hindu Rashtra and the state will ensure
    that; but the Hindu Rashra won't allow creation of a
    nation within a nation in the name of religious
    minoritysm." What's wrong with it? This is exactly the
    situation in the country where Varshney has grown up and
    prospered, the United States.

    Continues at:

    http://bharatkalyan97.blogspot.com/2014/03/what-hindutva-seeks-ram-madhav.html

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    Om Shanti

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  • From Dr. Jai Maharaj@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, November 15, 2017 22:00:37
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    Origin and Development of Indian Languages

    The Hans India
    July 27, 2015

    Ever since human beings have invented scripts, writing
    has reflected the culture, lifestyle, society and the
    polity of contemporary society. In the process, each
    culture evolved its own language and created a huge
    literary base. This literary base of a civilisation tells
    us about the evolution of each of its languages and
    culture through the span of centuries.

    Role of Sanskrit

    Sanskrit is the mother of many Indian languages. The
    Vedas, Upanishads, Puranas and Dharmasutras are all
    written in Sanskrit. There is also a variety of secular
    and regional literature. By reading about the languages
    and literature created in the past, we shall be able to
    understand our civilization better and appreciate the
    diversity and richness of our culture.

    All this was possible because of the language that
    developed during that time. Sanskrit is the most ancient
    language of our country. It is one of the twenty-two
    languages listed in the Indian Constitution .The
    literature in Sanskrit is vast, beginning with the most
    ancient thought embodied in the Rig Veda, the oldest
    literary heritage of mankind, and the Zend Avesta.

    It was Sanskrit that gave impetus to the study of
    linguistics scientifically during the eighteenth century.
    The great grammarian Panini, analysed Sanskrit and its
    word formation in his unrivalled descriptive grammar
    Ashtadhyayi. . . .

    Continues at:

    http://www.thehansindia.com/posts/index/2015-07-27/Origin-and-development-of-Indian-languages-166230

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    The myth of the aryan invasion

    By Swami B.V. Giri

    http://gosai.com/writings/the-myth-of-the-aryan-invasion

    Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
    Om Shanti
    http://tinyurl.com/JaiMaharaj

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    uNmaiviLambi <tripur...@yahoo.com> posted:

    Great article. AIT is a myth perpetrated by colonisers to
    demoralize Hindus to make them feel their culture came
    from Europe and also that they are also alien after all
    so Europeans can stay and conquer us. This also can make
    us feel guilty, that we usurped some one else's country.
    Europeans are so used to aggressive barbarism by northern
    Europeans, they saw others in the same light. All they
    can think of is race,migration, conquest and killings.
    - uNmaiviLambi

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  • From Dr. Jai Maharaj@1:229/2 to All on Friday, November 17, 2017 21:34:45
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    From: alt.fan.jai-maharaj@googlegroups.com

    Book review

    Myth of the Aryan Invasion of India

    By David Frawley
    Amazon.com: Books

    Review:

    An Eye-opener

    By "ka_shrinivaasan"
    September 17, 2003

    David Frwaley has done a great job of bringing some
    buried truths to light. The English colonialists divided
    India through their clandestine theory of aryan invasion.
    I would pose one question to proponents of aryan invasion
    theory: Where are the evidences which CONCLUSIVELY prove
    that aryans invaded India and destroyed Harappan
    civilization? I have read in history books (written by
    marxist historians) that Harappans did not know about
    horse. But 5000 year old Horse bones have been excavated
    at Harappa and other indus valley sites. A maritime
    civilzation dating back to 8000 years has been recently
    unearthed near Dholavira (Gujarat) which used seals
    strikingly similar to harappan seals. Above all the
    recent decipherment of Indus script by Shri N Jha and N S
    Rajaram is a final nail in its coffin. I would suggest
    that everyone should also read "Deciphered Indus Script"
    written by them. It has a clean and incontrovertible
    methodology which leads us to believe that something is
    terribly wrong with Aryan Invasion theory. Moreover the
    whole aryan invasion theory has its basis on Max
    mueller's 1500 BC date to Rig vedas. But the irony is
    that Max mueller himself, in his last years, suspected
    the date he assigned to rig veda (refer few of his
    letters).

    http://www.amazon.com/Aryan-Invasion-India-David-Frawley/dp/8185990204

    Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
    Om Shanti
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  • From Dr. Jai Maharaj@1:229/2 to All on Friday, November 17, 2017 15:51:19
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    Sanskrit is our cultural heritage: President APJ Abdul Kalam

    Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman

    [ Thu, Feb 1, 2007

    Sanskrit is our cultural heritage: President APJ Abdul Kalam

    Kalam on why Sanskrit is important

    By Syed Amin Jafri in Hyderabad
    Thursday, February 1, 2007

    President A P J Abdul Kalam on Thursday termed Guru
    Raghavendraswamy of Mantralayam as a 'divine soul' and
    recalled the rich cultural heritage of Sanskrit in Indian
    history.

    Dr Kalam interacted with the students of Sree Guru
    Sarvabhouma Sanskrit Vidyapeetam at Mantralayam in Kurnool
    district. Reciting the *Moola Mantram*of
    Raghavendraswamigal, he said "We worship Guru
    Raghavendraswamy, the divine soul who practiced and taught
    truth and *dharma* (the right conduct). We chant his name
    as *Kalpavrisha* (the giver of limitless material wealth)
    and bow before him as *Kamadenu* (the giver of spiritual
    knowledge)."

    "Though I am not an expert in Sanskrit, I have many friends
    who are proficient in Sanskrit. Sanskrit is a beautiful
    language. It has enriched our society from time immemorial.
    Today many nations are trying to research Sanskrit writings
    which are there in our ancient scriptures. I understand
    that there is a wealth of knowledge available in Sanskrit
    which scientists and technologists are finding today," he
    said.

    "There is a need to carry out research on our Vedas,
    particularly Atharvana Veda, for eliciting valuable
    information in science and technology relating to medicine,
    flight sciences, material sciences and many other related
    fields. Cryptology is another area where Sanskrit language
    is liberally used," he added.

    He suggested that the Sanskrit Vidyapeetam, apart from
    their academic activity, should take up the task of
    locating missing literature in Sanskrit available on palm
    leaves spread in different parts of the country so that
    these could be documented and preserved. He suggested that
    they should avail the help of digital technology for
    documenting those scriptures both in audio and video form
    which can be preserved as long term wealth for use by many
    generations?

    He asked the Sanskrit Vidyapeetam to should go into details
    of lives of great scholars, poets, epic creators like
    Valmiki, Veda Vyas, Kalidas and Panini. He wanted the
    Vidyapeetam to invite well-known Sanskrit scholars so that
    they can stay and interact with the students for a certain
    period.

    "This will provide an opportunity for students to interact
    and get enriched in Sanskrit and Vedas," he noted.

    http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/feb/01kalam1.htm

    *INTERACTION WITH THE STUDENTS OF SREE GURU SARVABHOUMA SANSKRIT
    VIDYAPEETAM, MANTRALAYAM*

    *Speech In: *[PDF Format] http://presidentofindia.nic.in/presentation/splangnewPDF%20Format961.pdf

    01-02-2007 : Mantralayam

    Sanskrit is our Cultural Heritage

    "Learning gives creativity"

    I am indeed delighted to interact with the students of Sree
    Guru Sarvabhouma Sanskrit Vidyapeetam in the serene
    environment of Mantralayam. After you complete your eight
    year course, twelve year course or seven your course, what
    you will be? You will be a great teacher. You have to
    acquire the qualities of teaching and carry the tradition
    of Raghavendraswamy. Wherever you are and whatever task you
    perform the devotees will treat you as Gurus and the
    foundation for a such a Guru comes from this institution. I
    congratulate the teachers who are constantly shaping you
    towards a noble profession which you will be following in
    your later years. When I am with you, I would like to
    recite the Moola mantram of Raghavendraswamigal.

    http://presidentofindia.nic.in/contimages/20070201142155.JPG

    We worship Guru Raghavendraswamy, the divine soul who
    practiced and taught truth and dharma (the right conduct).
    We chant his name as Kalpavrisha (the giver of limitless
    material wealth) and bow before him as Kamadenu (the giver
    of spiritual knowledge).

    My Experience with Sanskrit Scholars

    I have come across two great teachers, one in the primary
    school and another in the St. Joseph's College. My primary
    school teacher Sri Sivasubramanya Iyer was a great Sanskrit
    scholar apart from being my science teacher. Everyday he
    used to perform Sandhya Vandanam three times a day and
    Bhagavatam. My college teacher Prof Thothathri Iyengar who
    taught me complex numbers and number theory was also a
    Sanskrit scholar.

    While the base of these two great teachers was science and
    mathematics, their life was shaped by the ancient wisdom of
    Sanskrit scholarship. Recently, I have come across a great
    scholar Dr MA Lakshmi Tathachar of Sanskrit Academy,
    Melkote, Karnataka who has been carrying out intensive
    research in Sanskrit including the agriculture using
    organic farming. Such is the richness of Sanskrit and I am
    happy that Sanskrit Vidyapeetam is preserving and nurturing
    this great language.

    Richness of Sanskrit

    Though I am not an expert in Sanskrit, I have many friends
    who are proficient in Sanskrit. Sanskrit is a beautiful
    language. It has enriched our society from time immemorial.
    Today many nations are trying to research on the Sanskrit
    writings which are there in our ancient scriptures. I
    understand that there is a wealth of knowledge available in
    Sanskrit which the scientists and technologists are finding
    today. There is a need to carry out research on our Vedas
    particularly Atharvana Veda for eliciting many valuable
    information in Science and Technology relating to medicine,
    flight sciences, material sciences and many other related
    fields. Cryptology is another area where Sanskrit language
    is liberally used.

    Tasks for Sanskrit Vidyapeetam

    I would suggest the Sanskrit Vidyapeetam apart from their
    academic activity can take up the location of the missing
    literature in Sanskrit available in palm leaves spread in
    different parts of the country so that they can be
    documented and preserved. For this I would suggest that
    they can avail the help of technology available in digital
    library for documenting those scriptures both in audio and
    video form which can be preserved as long term wealth for
    use by many generations. For this purpose, the Academy can
    get in touch with Prof N. Balakrishnan of the Indian
    Institute of Science, Bangalore who is piloting a digital
    library project for India.

    In the Sanskrit Vidyapeetam you should go into details of
    lives of great scholars, poets, epic creators like Valmiki,
    Veda Vyasa, Kalidasa and Panini. I would suggest that the
    Vidyapeetam may invite a few scholars who have been awarded
    Certificate of Honour in Sanskrit and Maharishi Badrayan
    Vyas Samman for young scholars by the Government of India
    so that these scholars can stay and interact with the
    students for a certain period.

    This will provide an opportunity for the students to
    interact and get enriched in Sanskrit and Vedas.

    Knowledge acquisition and retention

    Now, I would like to play an audio CD which highlights the
    importance of the Vedas and also how the Vedas nourish our
    mind, memory and intellect.

    This has been rendered by Tatwamasi Dixit, founder Ojas
    Foundation, Chennai. I would like to play the song first:

    A. O Lord Soorya! Augment my direct perception, my ability
    to infer, and help me to retain the Vedic teachings for
    posterity.

    B. I invite Medha Devi (retention power) and Maneesha Devi
    (absorbing power) into my mind to expand the past and
    future knowledge even whilst the present knowledge is being
    thoroughly assimilated. (Track 11 - A &B)

    A Prayer to Medha (power of retention) and Maneesha (power
    of assimilation). They should come together and help the
    devotee to assimilate the present knowledge in relation to
    the past and the future. In other words, while the power of
    retention will help the devotee to understand the past and
    the present, the power of assimilation will help him to
    learn the lessons for the future from the past and present
    experiences.

    My best wishes to all the students and Acharyas of Sree
    Guru Sarvabhouma Sanskrit Vidyapeetam for success in their
    preservation and promotion of Sanskrit.

    May God bless you.

    http://presidentofindia.nic.in/scripts/eventslatest1.jsp?id=1431

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    Mark Twain's tribute to Bharatam: "India is, the cradle of
    the human race, the birthplace of human speech, the mother
    of history, the grandmother of legend, and the great grand
    mother of tradition. our most valuable and most instructive
    materials in the history of man are treasured up in India
    only."

    End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman

    Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
    Om Shanti
    http://is.gd/jyotishi

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