• Gordon S. Wood, *Power and Liberty* (2021) (1/2)

    From Jeffrey Rubard@1:229/2 to All on Monday, January 24, 2022 07:21:16
    From: jeffreydanielrubard@gmail.com

    Excerpt

    Yet a brief ten years later, Americans ended up scrapping these Articles of Confederation and creating a totally new and powerful national government in its place. We are apt to assume that the transformation was inevitable, but we should not. It was a
    momentous change, and one not at all anticipated in 1776. The new government adopted in 1787–88 was not a stronger league of friendship with a few new powers added to the Congress. It was a radically new government altogether—one that utterly
    transformed the structure of central authority and greatly diminished the power of the several states. The Constitution of 1787 created a national republic in its own right, with a bicameral legislature, a single executive, and an independent supreme
    court—a government spanning half a continent that, unlike the Confederation, was designed to bypass the states and operate directly on individuals. It created in fact what a decade earlier had seemed theoretically impossible and virtually inconceivable.

    Something awful had to have happened in the decade since independence for so many Americans to change their minds so dramatically about what kind of central government they would impose on themselves. What could have happened? What could have compelled
    Americans to put aside their earlier fears of far-removed political power and create such a strong national government? Today we take the Constitution and a powerful national government so much for granted that we can scarcely doubt its preordained
    creation. But perhaps we ought to wonder more why the Constitution needed to be created at all.

    Nineteenth-century Americans tended to explain the Constitution in heroic terms. John Fiske, in a book published in 1888 for the centennial celebration of the Constitution, The Critical Period of American History, summed up this nineteenth-century
    thinking. “It is not to much to say,” he wrote, “that the period of five years following the peace of 1783 was the most critical moment in all the history of the American people.” And he made this extraordinary claim in the wake of the Civil War.

    Fiske pictured the 1780s as a time of chaos and anarchy, with the country’s finances near ruin. The Confederation government was collapsing and the various state governments, beset by debtor and paper money advocates who were pressing creditor and
    commercial interests to the wall, were flying off in separate directions. It was a desperate situation retrieved only at the eleventh hour by the high-minded intervention of the founding fathers. These few great framers saved the country from disaster.

    The problem with this dominant nineteenth-century interpretation is that there does not appear to have been any near collapse of the economy or any breakdown in society. There was no anarchy, no serious financial crisis, and apparently no real “
    critical period” after all.

    Historical studies of the twentieth century tended to minimize the critical nature of the 1780s. Things seem not to have been as bad as John Fiske and the supporters of the Constitution, or the Federalists, as they called themselves, pictured them. This
    was the thrust of the work of the twentieth-century Progressive and neo-Progressive historians—beginning with Charles Beard at the start of the century and continuing into the final decades of the century with Merrill Jensen, and his students James
    Ferguson and Jackson Turner Main. “Clearly,” wrote Ferguson, “it was not the era of public bankruptcy and currency depreciation that historians used to depict.” Both the Confederation and the state governments had done much to stabilize finances
    in the aftermath of the Revolution. The states had already begun assuming payment of the public debt, and the deficits were not really that serious. To be sure, there was economic dislocation and disruption, but there was no breakdown of the economy.
    There was a depression in 1784–85, but by 1786 the country was coming out of it, and many of the Federalists were aware of the returning prosperity. The commercial outlook was far from bleak. It’s true that Americans were outside the mercantile
    protections of the British Empire, but they were freely trading with each other and were reaching out to ports throughout the world—to the West Indies and Spanish America, to the continent of Europe, to Alaska, to Russia, and even to China.

    Contrary to Fiske’s assessment, the 1780s were actually a time of great excitement and elevation of spirit. The country was bursting with energy and enterprise, and people were multiplying at a dizzying rate and were on the move in search of
    opportunities. They were spilling over the mountains into the newly acquired western territories with astonishing rapidity. Kentucky, which had virtually no white inhabitants at the time of independence, by 1780 already had 20,000 settlers.

    Despite a slackening of immigration from abroad and the loss of tens of thousands of British loyalists, the population grew as never before or since. In fact, the 1780s experienced the fastest rate of demographic growth of any decade in all of American
    history. Men and women were marrying earlier and thus having more children—a measure of the high expectations and exuberance of the period. “There is not upon the face of the earth a body of people more happy or rising into consequence with more
    rapid stride, than the Inhabitants of the United States of America,” secretary of the Congress Charles Thomson told Thomas Jefferson in 1786. “Population is encreasing, new houses building, new settlements forming, and new manufactures establishing
    with a rapidity beyond conception.” Where did all the talk of crisis come from? “If we are undone,” declared a bewildered South Carolinian, “we are the most splendidly ruined of any nation in the universe.”

    There were economic problems, of course, “but,” wrote historian Merrill Jensen, “there is no evidence of stagnation and decay in the 1780s.” In fact, said Jensen, “the period was one of extraordinary growth.” It seems that the bulk of the
    society was seeking to fulfill the promise of the Revolution, and countless Americans were taking the pursuit of happiness seriously.


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  • From Nil@1:229/2 to Jeffrey Rubard on Monday, January 24, 2022 23:41:17
    From: rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net

    On 24 Jan 2022, Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreydanielrubard@gmail.com> wrote in alt.history:

    Yet a brief ten years later, Americans ended up scrapping these Articles of Confederation

    So true.

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  • From Steve Hayes@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, January 25, 2022 08:48:10
    XPost: soc.history
    From: hayesstw@telkomsa.net

    On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 07:21:16 -0800 (PST), Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreydanielrubard@gmail.com> wrote:

    Excerpt

    Yet a brief ten years later, Americans ended up scrapping these
    Articles of Confederation and creating a totally new and powerful
    national government in its place. We are apt to assume that the
    transformation was inevitable, but we should not. It was a momentous
    change, and one not at all anticipated in 1776. The new government
    adopted in 1787–88 was not a stronger league of friendship with a few
    new powers added to the Congress. It was a radically new government altogether—one that utterly transformed the structure of central
    authority and greatly diminished the power of the several states. The Constitution of 1787 created a national republic in its own right,
    with a bicameral legislature, a single executive, and an independent
    supreme court—a government spanning half a continent that, unlike the Confederation, was designed to bypass the states and operate directly
    on individuals. It created in fact what a decade earlier had seemed theoretically impossible and virtually inconceivable.

    Something awful had to have happened in the decade since independence
    for so many Americans to change their minds so dramatically about what
    kind of central government they would impose on themselves. What could
    have happened? What could have compelled Americans to put aside their
    earlier fears of far-removed political power and create such a strong
    national government? Today we take the Constitution and a powerful
    national government so much for granted that we can scarcely doubt its preordained creation. But perhaps we ought to wonder more why the
    Constitution needed to be created at all.

    Nineteenth-century Americans tended to explain the Constitution in
    heroic terms. John Fiske, in a book published in 1888 for the
    centennial celebration of the Constitution, The Critical Period of
    American History, summed up this nineteenth-century thinking. “It is
    not to much to say,” he wrote, “that the period of five years
    following the peace of 1783 was the most critical moment in all the
    history of the American people.” And he made this extraordinary claim
    in the wake of the Civil War.

    Fiske pictured the 1780s as a time of chaos and anarchy, with the
    country’s finances near ruin. The Confederation government was
    collapsing and the various state governments, beset by debtor and
    paper money advocates who were pressing creditor and commercial
    interests to the wall, were flying off in separate directions. It was
    a desperate situation retrieved only at the eleventh hour by the
    high-minded intervention of the founding fathers. These few great
    framers saved the country from disaster.

    The problem with this dominant nineteenth-century interpretation is
    that there does not appear to have been any near collapse of the
    economy or any breakdown in society. There was no anarchy, no serious
    financial crisis, and apparently no real “critical period” after all.

    Historical studies of the twentieth century tended to minimize the
    critical nature of the 1780s. Things seem not to have been as bad as
    John Fiske and the supporters of the Constitution, or the Federalists,
    as they called themselves, pictured them. This was the thrust of the
    work of the twentieth-century Progressive and neo-Progressive historians—beginning with Charles Beard at the start of the century
    and continuing into the final decades of the century with Merrill
    Jensen, and his students James Ferguson and Jackson Turner Main.
    “Clearly,” wrote Ferguson, “it was not the era of public bankruptcy
    and currency depreciation that historians used to depict.” Both the Confederation and the state governments had done much to stabilize
    finances in the aftermath of the Revolution. The states had already
    begun assuming payment of the public debt, and the deficits were not
    really that serious. To be sure, there was economic dislocation and
    disruption, but there was no breakdown of the economy. There was a
    depression in 1784–85, but by 1786 the country was coming out of it,
    and many of the Federalists were aware of the returning prosperity.
    The commercial outlook was far from bleak. It’s true that Americans
    were outside the mercantile protections of the British Empire, but
    they were freely trading with each other and were reaching out to
    ports throughout the world—to the West Indies and Spanish America, to
    the continent of Europe, to Alaska, to Russia, and even to China.

    Contrary to Fiske’s assessment, the 1780s were actually a time of
    great excitement and elevation of spirit. The country was bursting
    with energy and enterprise, and people were multiplying at a dizzying
    rate and were on the move in search of opportunities. They were
    spilling over the mountains into the newly acquired western
    territories with astonishing rapidity. Kentucky, which had virtually
    no white inhabitants at the time of independence, by 1780 already had
    20,000 settlers.

    Despite a slackening of immigration from abroad and the loss of tens
    of thousands of British loyalists, the population grew as never before
    or since. In fact, the 1780s experienced the fastest rate of
    demographic growth of any decade in all of American history. Men and
    women were marrying earlier and thus having more children—a measure of
    the high expectations and exuberance of the period. “There is not upon
    the face of the earth a body of people more happy or rising into
    consequence with more rapid stride, than the Inhabitants of the United
    States of America,” secretary of the Congress Charles Thomson told
    Thomas Jefferson in 1786. “Population is encreasing, new houses
    building, new settlements forming, and new manufactures establishing
    with a rapidity beyond conception.” Where did all the talk of crisis
    come from? “If we are undone,” declared a bewildered South Carolinian, “we are the most splendidly ruined of any nation in the universe.”

    There were economic problems, of course, “but,” wrote historian
    Merrill Jensen, “there is no evidence of stagnation and decay in the 1780s.” In fact, said Jensen, “the period was one of extraordinary growth.” It seems that the bulk of the society was seeking to fulfill
    the promise of the Revolution, and countless Americans were taking the
    pursuit of happiness seriously.

    If all this is true, and the evidence is overwhelming that it is, then
    why did Americans create the Constitution? If the Confederation was

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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@1:229/2 to Nil on Tuesday, January 25, 2022 15:06:32
    From: jeffreydanielrubard@gmail.com

    On Monday, January 24, 2022 at 8:41:31 PM UTC-8, Nil wrote:
    On 24 Jan 2022, Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote in
    alt.history:
    Yet a brief ten years later, Americans ended up scrapping these Articles of Confederation
    So true.

    It is. The system of government laid out in *The Federalist Papers* is well worth your study,
    even if you consider it an inferior one. For it was to be quite a bit different than the American
    colonies, concerned with the increase of trade and commerce *within* the country.

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