• Woksters destroy history, so they can repeat the same dumb mistakes ove

    From P. Coonan@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, December 08, 2021 07:20:18
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    From: nospam@ix.netcom.com

    Use Confederate statues and names to educate

    Monuments to the best of us remind us of our high ideals, and monuments to
    the worst of us remind us what not to repeat: Another view

    Today in America a radical mob is tearing down monuments and demanding
    military bases be renamed. It isn’t about fighting racism or removing
    symbols of slavery. It’s about tearing our country apart.

    We know this because the woke mob isn’t just going after Confederate
    statues; it’s going after monuments and namesakes that span from
    Christopher Columbus to George Washington to Theodore Roosevelt.

    Recently, a mob in San Francisco pulled down a monument to Ulysses S.
    Grant for the crime of having briefly owned a slave. Never mind that Grant
    led the Union army to victory against the slave states of the Confederacy,
    or that he freed his one slave before the war broke out. Grant has been canceled along with other Union leaders like Adm. David Farragut and Gen. George Thomas, whose statues were recently defaced by vandals.

    OUR VIEW:Debate Confederate monuments, then take them down

    The mob has also targeted statues of abolitionists like Matthias Baldwin,
    whose monument in front of Philadelphia City Hall was spray-painted with “murderer” and “colonizer.” Never mind that Baldwin fought slavery,
    defended Black voting rights and helped establish a school for Black
    children.

    Clearly, there’s no limiting principle here. That’s why monuments to
    George Washington and Thomas Jefferson have been pulled down, and why some
    are calling for a statue of Abraham Lincoln in Washington to come down.

    The reason there’s no limiting principle is that the people pulling down
    and defacing these statues believe America itself is racist, not just Confederate leaders. Based on their logic, there’s no reason not to
    dynamite Mount Rushmore or blow up the Lincoln Memorial. They’re all
    symbols of America’s endemic racism.

    Rather than accede to this radical interpretation of history, we should
    try to educate our fellow citizens. Monuments and place names should be
    part of that education. What glorifies in one generation simply — and profoundly — reminds in another. Monuments to the best of us remind us of
    our high ideals, and monuments to the worst of us remind us what not to
    repeat.

    But above all, we should reject the false vision of American history
    touted by the mob. For all our faults, past and present, the United States
    is the greatest champion of liberty and equality in the history of the
    world.

    John Davidson is an editor at The Federalist.

    <https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/todaysdebate/2020/06/29/use- confederate-monuments-place-names-educate-editorials-debates/3282736001/>

    If Lincoln had done his job and sent slaves back to Africa, the United
    States of America would not have to deal with Democrat racism today.

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  • From Rudy Canoza@1:229/2 to P. Coonan on Wednesday, December 08, 2021 15:18:36
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    From: RuCan@JK.net

    "P. Coonan" <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in news:XnsADF9ED6A87037002CE8@144.76.35.252:

    Use Confederate statues and names to educate

    Monuments to the best of us remind us of our high ideals, and
    monuments to the worst of us remind us what not to repeat: Another
    view

    Today in America a radical mob is tearing down monuments and demanding military bases be renamed. It isn’t about fighting racism or removing
    symbols of slavery. It’s about tearing our country apart.

    It's about redefining America and it's history.

    This is settled and beyond debate.

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  • From Siri Cruise@1:229/2 to P. Coonan on Wednesday, December 08, 2021 02:54:27
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    From: chine.bleu@yahoo.com

    In article <XnsADF9ED6A87037002CE8@144.76.35.252>,
    "P. Coonan" <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

    Use Confederate statues and names to educate

    The average american already knows slavery and bigotry are wrong.
    Though I've heard that in the southeast people are too dense to
    grasp that.

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  • From Siri Cruise@1:229/2 to max headroom on Wednesday, December 08, 2021 21:55:22
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    From: chine.bleu@yahoo.com

    In article <sos10j$6io$3@dont-email.me>,
    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:

    In news:chine.bleu-A12B38.02541908122021@reader.eternal-september.org, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:

    In article <XnsADF9ED6A87037002CE8@144.76.35.252>, "P. Coonan" <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

    Use Confederate statues and names to educate

    The average american already knows slavery and bigotry are wrong.
    Though I've heard that in the southeast people are too dense to
    grasp that.

    Cruise proves bigotry is not dead.

    Wow. That's really deep, man. It's new level of depth for you. I
    think you've breached one millimeter.

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  • From max headroom@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, December 08, 2021 18:59:08
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    From: maximusheadroom@gmx.com

    In news:chine.bleu-A12B38.02541908122021@reader.eternal-september.org, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:

    In article <XnsADF9ED6A87037002CE8@144.76.35.252>, "P. Coonan" <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

    Use Confederate statues and names to educate

    The average american already knows slavery and bigotry are wrong.
    Though I've heard that in the southeast people are too dense to
    grasp that.

    Cruise proves bigotry is not dead.

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  • From Rudy Canoza@1:229/2 to P. Coonan on Wednesday, December 08, 2021 22:00:40
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    From: notgenx32@gmail.com

    On 12/7/2021 11:20 PM, P. Coonan wrote:
    Use Confederate statues and names to educate

    No legitimate educational purpose to them, except as pictures in books teaching about traitor state racism and how those statues were put up *only* to reinforce
    the terrorism message of Jim Crow.

    Tear the monuments down and melt them, or dynamite them. They are wrong.

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  • From max headroom@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, December 08, 2021 23:25:27
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    From: maximusheadroom@gmx.com

    In news:chine.bleu-FB7981.21551408122021@reader.eternal-september.org, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:

    In article <sos10j$6io$3@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
    In news:chine.bleu-A12B38.02541908122021@reader.eternal-september.org, Siri >> Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
    In article <XnsADF9ED6A87037002CE8@144.76.35.252>, "P. Coonan"
    <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

    Use Confederate statues and names to educate

    The average american already knows slavery and bigotry are wrong.
    Though I've heard that in the southeast people are too dense to
    grasp that.

    Cruise proves bigotry is not dead.

    Wow. That's really deep, man. It's new level of depth for you. I
    think you've breached one millimeter.

    That's awfully big of you to admit your bigotry. Kudos!

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  • From Rudy Canoza@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, December 09, 2021 07:30:04
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    From: notgenx32@gmail.com

    On 12/8/2021 6:59 PM, oozing scarlet red maxipad attempted - and *failed* - to bullshit:
    In news:chine.bleu-A12B38.02541908122021@reader.eternal-september.org, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:

    In article <XnsADF9ED6A87037002CE8@144.76.35.252>, "P. Coonan"
    <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

    Use Confederate statues and names to educate

    The average american already knows slavery and bigotry are wrong.
    Though I've heard that in the southeast people are too dense to
    grasp that.

    Cruise proves bigotry is not dead.

    What bigotry? People in the shithole former traitor states *are* generally too stupid to understand that their fucking "lost cause" was 100% wrong and bad — not one redeeming feature to it.

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  • From Blueshirt@1:229/2 to Rudy Canoza on Wednesday, December 29, 2021 22:01:28
    From: blueshirt@indigo.news

    Rudy Canoza wrote:

    "P. Coonan" <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in news:XnsADF9ED6A87037002CE8@144.76.35.252:

    Use Confederate statues and names to educate

    Monuments to the best of us remind us of our high ideals, and
    monuments to the worst of us remind us what not to repeat: Another
    view

    Today in America a radical mob is tearing down monuments and
    demanding military bases be renamed. It isn't about fighting
    racism or removing symbols of slavery. It's about tearing our
    country apart.

    It's about redefining America and it's history.

    You can't 'redefine' history; tearing statues down doesn't right any
    wrongs. It might make a few idiots feel better but pretending things
    didn't happen is like an Ostrich sticking it's head in the sand.
    Education is the only way forward.

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