https://phys.org/news/2020-01-mathematicians-famous-britain-scenarios.html
What if the switch to bombing London had not occurred? What if a more
eager Hitler had pushed for an earlier beginning to the campaign? What if Goering had focused on targeting British airfields throughout the entire period of the Battle?
"SolomonW" wrote in message news:1onw1n05hoehl.1kh8gfizlghwm$.dlg@40tude.net...
https://phys.org/news/2020-01-mathematicians-famous-britain-scenarios.html >>
What if the switch to bombing London had not occurred? What if a
more
eager Hitler had pushed for an earlier beginning to the campaign?
What if
Goering had focused on targeting British airfields throughout the
entire
period of the Battle?
From what I've learned about the Battle of Britain, the Luftwaffe,
despite
their high losses, had all but worn-out the RAF. Exhausted British
pilots
were getting so little sleep that they nodded off at the controls
and
shuffled around like zombies. By the time Der Fuhrer threw in the
towel, the
RAF hadn't so much "won" the Battle of Britain as the Luftwaffe LOST
it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCu7IT81gh8&t=21m22s
"SolomonW" wrote in message news:1onw1n05hoehl.1kh8gfizlghwm$.dlg@40tude.net...
https://phys.org/news/2020-01-mathematicians-famous-britain-scenarios.html >>
What if the switch to bombing London had not occurred? What if a more
eager Hitler had pushed for an earlier beginning to the campaign? What if
Goering had focused on targeting British airfields throughout the entire
period of the Battle?
From what I've learned about the Battle of Britain, the Luftwaffe, despite their high losses, had all but worn-out the RAF. Exhausted British pilots were getting so little sleep that they nodded off at the controls and shuffled around like zombies. By the time Der Fuhrer threw in the towel,
the
RAF hadn't so much "won" the Battle of Britain as the Luftwaffe LOST it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCu7IT81gh8&t=21m22s
Stephen Bungay is his book the 'The Most Dangerous Enemy' dug deep into
the records of both the Luftwaffe and RAF came to the opposite
conclusion. While the RAF had indeed taken heavier losses it was
replacing both aircraft and pilots lost and at the end of August 1940
had as many aircraft available as in May, indeed the obsolete types such
as the Blenheim 1F and Defiants had been replaced by Hurricanes and >Spitfires. The result was that on Sept 1 1940 the RAF was at full
strength with regard to aircraft (670) and had over 1100 pilots
available. At the same time Erhard Milch was reporting that most
Luftwaffe squadrons were seriously under strength particularly with
regard to pilots.
From what I've learned about the Battle of Britain, the Luftwaffe, despite their high losses, had all but worn-out the RAF. Exhausted British pilots were getting so little sleep that they nodded off at the controls and shuffled around like zombies. By the time Der Fuhrer threw in the towel,
the
RAF hadn't so much "won" the Battle of Britain as the Luftwaffe LOST it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCu7IT81gh8&t=21m22s
On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 00:42:39 +1100, Geoffrey Sinclair wrote:
Also at phys.org.
https://phys.org/news/2019-10-plotting-air-raids-britain-devastating.html
Which leads to
http://www.warstateandsociety.com/Bombing-Britain
Unfortunately when you go to the map you get
"Due to high demand, we are experiencing technical difficulties. We hope
to
get the map back up and running as soon as possible. Apologies for any inconvenience."
Also at phys.org.
https://phys.org/news/2019-10-plotting-air-raids-britain-devastating.html
Which leads to
http://www.warstateandsociety.com/Bombing-Britain
Geoffrey Sinclair
Remove the nb for email.
On 13/01/2020 06:09, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Keith Willshaw <keithwillshaw@gmail.com> on Sun, 12 Jan 2020
21:51:16
As has been pointed out many times: RAF pilots shot down, were
shot down over their own country. If was possible for you to get
shot
down in the morning and be back up in the afternoon. Possible, I
don't know if that happened.
OTOH, Luftwaffe pilots got shot down mostly over enemy territory.
Even if they made it to the channel, they weren't going to be
getting
back to the mess anytime soon. On going problem.
That was important but equally important in the long term was the
inception of the British Commonwealth Air Training Plan at the
beginning of the war. By Sept 1940 the first batch of pilots being
trained in Australia, Canada and Rhodesia were graduating. One thing
that is not well known is that Fleet Air Arm and RAF pilots were
being trained in the still neutral USA. All of this was additional
to the 7000 pilots trained in the UK by the end of August 1940.
Keith Willshaw <keithwillshaw@gmail.com> on Sun, 12 Jan 2020 21:51:16
As has been pointed out many times: RAF pilots shot down, were
shot down over their own country. If was possible for you to get shot
down in the morning and be back up in the afternoon. Possible, I
don't know if that happened.
OTOH, Luftwaffe pilots got shot down mostly over enemy territory.
Even if they made it to the channel, they weren't going to be getting
back to the mess anytime soon. On going problem.
He was one of the first pilots to fly a Corsair off a carrier as the USN
only used them from land bases until much later.
On 1/19/20 8:21 AM, Keith Willshaw wrote:
He was one of the first pilots to fly a Corsair off a carrier as the
USN only used them from land bases until much later.
The USN VF-12 initially flew the Corsair off carriers for a brief time
before the Navy passed the aircraft over to the Marines.
My understanding is the RN was already using the curved carrier approach technique for other aircraft (Swordfish?) and it wasn't something
developed specifically for the Corsair.
SMH
"Keith Willshaw" <keithwillshaw@gmail.com> wrote in message
Thanks, I didn't know that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Air_Forces_Contract_Flying_School_Airfields
On 1/19/20 8:21 AM, Keith Willshaw wrote:
He was one of the first pilots to fly a Corsair off a carrier as the
USN only used them from land bases until much later.
The USN VF-12 initially flew the Corsair off carriers for a brief time
before the Navy passed the aircraft over to the Marines.
My understanding is the RN was already using the curved carrier approach technique for other aircraft (Swordfish?) and it wasn't something
developed specifically for the Corsair.
SMH
As has been pointed out many times: RAF pilots shot down, were
shot down over their own country. If was possible for you to get shot
down in the morning and be back up in the afternoon. Possible, I
don't know if that happened.
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