XPost: alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, alt.comp.os.windows-10 From: rogblake@iname.invalid

On 2021-05-09, Anonymous Remailer (austria) <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> wrote:

Again Apple products and users prove to be the weakest link in
the food chain.

The weakest link in the food chain are the idiots who believe that every
damned thing, including critical infrastructure, needs to be connected
to the internet. Were pipeline operations connected to the internet 30
or 40 years ago? Highly unlikely, yet it managed to be functional.

Nothing on the internet is truly secure, I don't care what operating
systems are involved. Pull the plug and cyber attacks become impossible.

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XPost: alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, alt.comp.os.windows-10 From: eric.stevens@sum.co.nz

On Sun, 9 May 2021 20:28:01 -0000 (UTC), Roger Blake
<rogblake@iname.invalid> wrote:

On 2021-05-09, Anonymous Remailer (austria) <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> wrote:

Again Apple products and users prove to be the weakest link in
the food chain.

The weakest link in the food chain are the idiots who believe that every >damned thing, including critical infrastructure, needs to be connected
to the internet. Were pipeline operations connected to the internet 30
or 40 years ago? Highly unlikely, yet it managed to be functional.

Nothing on the internet is truly secure, I don't care what operating
systems are involved. Pull the plug and cyber attacks become impossible.

Rambus Root of Trust solutions are progressively moving in but all the
older stuff lacks them.
https://www.rambus.com/security/root-of-trust/
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

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XPost: alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, alt.comp.os.windows-10 From: ithinkiam@gmail.com

On 09/05/2021 21:28, Roger Blake wrote:

On 2021-05-09, Anonymous Remailer (austria) <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> wrote:

Again Apple products and users prove to be the weakest link in
the food chain.

The weakest link in the food chain are the idiots who believe that every damned thing, including critical infrastructure, needs to be connected
to the internet. Were pipeline operations connected to the internet 30
or 40 years ago? Highly unlikely, yet it managed to be functional.

Although true there are advantages to having critical infrastructure on
*a* network. For monitoring and control, for example. Using the internet
is far cheaper and more robust than having your own network.

Nothing on the internet is truly secure, I don't care what operating
systems are involved. Pull the plug and cyber attacks become impossible.

Also true, but it doesn't follow that simply being on the internet
leaves you vulnerable to these types of attacks. The world's security
and military orgs are also on the internet and they don't fall prey to
these types of attacks.

What *is* the weakest link is companies downgrading IT and
infrastructure because it is too expensive and doesn't add to
shareholder value. You can guarantee they'll be paying through the nose
to get this fixed ASAP.

The problem with really good (IT) security is that you don't really
notice it so you don't realise how big a job it's doing.

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XPost: alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, alt.comp.os.windows-10 From: rogblake@iname.invalid

On 2021-05-10, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

Although true there are advantages to having critical infrastructure on
*a* network. For monitoring and control, for example. Using the internet
is far cheaper and more robust than having your own network.

As we can see in this attack, the drawbacks having critical infrastructure attached to the internet clearly outweigh the benefits.

Also true, but it doesn't follow that simply being on the internet
leaves you vulnerable to these types of attacks. The world's security
and military orgs are also on the internet and they don't fall prey to
these types of attacks.

Organizations with full-time security staff are routinely broken into.

There are some things that just should not be connected to the public internet.

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18 Reasons I won't be vaccinated -- https://tinyurl.com/ebty2dx3
Covid vaccines: experimental biology -- https://tinyurl.com/57mncfm5
The fraud of "Climate Change" -- https://RealClimateScience.com
Don't talk to cops! -- https://DontTalkToCops.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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XPost: alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, alt.comp.os.windows-10 From: mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at

In article <q8uh9ghj1870fig6jtseu0jupdtcv7a0i6@4ax.com>
Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote:

On Sun, 9 May 2021 20:28:01 -0000 (UTC), Roger Blake
<rogblake@iname.invalid> wrote:

On 2021-05-09, Anonymous Remailer (austria) <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> wrote:

Again Apple products and users prove to be the weakest link in
the food chain.

The weakest link in the food chain are the idiots who believe that every >damned thing, including critical infrastructure, needs to be connected
to the internet. Were pipeline operations connected to the internet 30
or 40 years ago? Highly unlikely, yet it managed to be functional.

Nothing on the internet is truly secure, I don't care what operating >systems are involved. Pull the plug and cyber attacks become impossible.

Rambus Root of Trust solutions are progressively moving in but all the
older stuff lacks them.
https://www.rambus.com/security/root-of-trust/

After they got hoisted on their petards for trying to "Brocade"
the memory market, do you really think we'd ever trust that
company again?

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XPost: alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, alt.comp.os.windows-10 From: mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at

In article <20210509162123@news.eternal-september.org>
Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> wrote:

On 2021-05-09, Anonymous Remailer (austria) <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> wrote:

Again Apple products and users prove to be the weakest link in
the food chain.

The weakest link in the food chain are the idiots who believe that every damned thing, including critical infrastructure, needs to be connected
to the internet. Were pipeline operations connected to the internet 30
or 40 years ago? Highly unlikely, yet it managed to be functional.

Nothing on the internet is truly secure, I don't care what operating
systems are involved. Pull the plug and cyber attacks become impossible.

We didn't have these problems when companies used dedicated
circuits and lazy DEMOCRAT employees were not allowed Internet
access at work. You are not at work to play. You are there to
work.

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Roger Blake (Posts from Google Groups killfiled due to excess spam.)

18 Reasons I won't be vaccinated -- https://tinyurl.com/ebty2dx3
Covid vaccines: experimental biology -- https://tinyurl.com/57mncfm5
The fraud of "Climate Change" -- https://RealClimateScience.com
Don't talk to cops! -- https://DontTalkToCops.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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XPost: alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, alt.comp.os.windows-10 From: T@invalid.invalid

On 5/9/21 1:28 PM, Roger Blake wrote:

On 2021-05-09, Anonymous Remailer (austria) <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> wrote:

Again Apple products and users prove to be the weakest link in
the food chain.

The weakest link in the food chain are the idiots who believe that every damned thing, including critical infrastructure, needs to be connected
to the internet. Were pipeline operations connected to the internet 30
or 40 years ago? Highly unlikely, yet it managed to be functional.

Nothing on the internet is truly secure, I don't care what operating
systems are involved. Pull the plug and cyber attacks become impossible.

Boy you hit the head on that nail.

Two words: dark fiber.

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XPost: alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, alt.comp.os.windows-10 From: nobody@dizum.com

In article <s7at7c$oms$1@dont-email.me>
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

On 09/05/2021 21:28, Roger Blake wrote:

On 2021-05-09, Anonymous Remailer (austria) <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> wrote:

Again Apple products and users prove to be the weakest link in
the food chain.

The weakest link in the food chain are the idiots who believe that every damned thing, including critical infrastructure, needs to be connected
to the internet. Were pipeline operations connected to the internet 30
or 40 years ago? Highly unlikely, yet it managed to be functional.

Although true there are advantages to having critical infrastructure on
*a* network. For monitoring and control, for example. Using the internet
is far cheaper and more robust than having your own network.

Sucks dick for VOIP.

Nothing on the internet is truly secure, I don't care what operating systems are involved. Pull the plug and cyber attacks become impossible.

Also true, but it doesn't follow that simply being on the internet
leaves you vulnerable to these types of attacks. The world's security
and military orgs are also on the internet and they don't fall prey to
these types of attacks.

You would be wrong to think we are on the "same" 'Internet' as
you peons.

What *is* the weakest link is companies downgrading IT and
infrastructure because it is too expensive and doesn't add to
shareholder value. You can guarantee they'll be paying through the nose
to get this fixed ASAP.

The weakest link is permitting IBM, HP, Cisco, Dell, AT&T,
Verizon, and Lenovo to monopolize business IT services and
outsource your personal / company data to incompetents in India.

The problem with really good (IT) security is that you don't really
notice it so you don't realise how big a job it's doing.

IT security is doing the job right in the first place.
Something IBM, HP, Cisco, Dell, AT&T, Verizon, and Lenovo don't
do.

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