From: Flasherly@live.com

Had it over two years, although noticed Monoprice.com had it on sale,
$50 off for $200, or $100 what I paid then, $150 for a new unit
that's, still, $50 less than one of the first Chinese clones,
predating most, to enter the American market.

Converted mine with a circular-saw into a head only, but just pulled
out and oldie, but goodie Eminence 12" speaker (pauperizes the
Monoprice advert and their shoddy "namebrand" speaker, originally
included), putting that into a open cab. Nice tonally balanced,
articulate and responsive sound for a single 12", just not as bassy,
overall efficient as a closed 4x12" Greenback-cab I'm used to;- nor of
course a bad thing for a premium speaker. Almost wish I'd saved the
bottom half of the amp, I'd sawed off, which I could have flipped for
adding a wood board beneath -- birthing a tiny single speaker
extension: Pretty, pretty, matched in unyellowed virgin, pearly white
Tolex.

Five Chinese tubes. Just noticed, however, an hour or so along a
change in tone, which could be but wouldn't seem likely connections --
a modeler in the Fx loop and 10-band between guitar and input (along
with active electronics in the guitar) -- no doubt for polishing and
cleaning plenty of contacts. Tend to favor its low power (pentode?)
tube plate switching, although neither need much "cranking".

Still, even for a self-adjusting bias amp, cleanliness neither can be
ruled out. A gain to volume shift happened, either lowered volume
output or increased gain, which messed to offset the initial balance
I'd set between clarity and distortion. Could be also tubes. More
picky and trifling than an actuality, perhaps realistically for
subjective annoyances, although it did tend to bust the Virgin Aurora
to an amp that hasn't been extensively used or certainly not abused. Imaginably, the Holy Grail of self-biasing amps never require tube
changes and perform within an immaculate conception, all to their own,
forever and ever.

Along with $150, which has away to go yet, regardless, if not too
immoderate a projection yet, "out of the box" with no cost-added
maintenance before exclaiming a Chinese Cub12R's worth fit for the
Golden Rule Book, at least in my edition.

Or, finicky, picky, bothersome, for a fine steel-wool to clean plugs
and contact cleaner to mating them to seated jacks. Pots to check, a
5W low-PWR switch, poking for cold-solder connections, tiny
screwdrivers for tightening tube-pin-slots, then EL84s and preamp
spares to swap, which I haven't, fresh out of the former on an
increasingly niche and expensive aftermarket for tubes;-- nah, all
that's definitely not in the Golden Rule Book, nor shelved remotely
near the section containing the Holy Grail of Amps.

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From: nomail@_INVALID_.gov

On 2/26/21 8:37 AM, Lord Valve wrote:

For fuck's sake, you cheap-ass bastard - why don't you buy a real
amp

I started out with a fender mustang, then some
five-star idiot told me to upgrade to a bigger
fender, and another still to upgrade more so
I ordered a vox 50 head with a box but the box
wasn't coming so I built me a 312. After a very
short time the head blew its load to the tune of
$300 in repairs but I was stupid enough not to
throw it out right then and there. Finally after a
while I saw that I didn't really need a new roof so
I sold the head, still have the box to get rid of.
Now about two grand wasted later I just bought
me another mustang off amazon out of nostalgia
because I don't even need that much, only a laptop
and an HDMI plug into my AvTunerAmp etc.
That vox sure sounded nice but I can do just about
any effect on the shittiest laptop even.

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From: ghost.crapper@gmail.com

On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 6:19:21 AM UTC-7, Flasherly wrote:

Had it over two years, although noticed Monoprice.com had it on sale,
$50 off for $200, or $100 what I paid then, $150 for a new unit
that's, still, $50 less than one of the first Chinese clones,
predating most, to enter the American market.

Converted mine with a circular-saw into a head only, but just pulled
out and oldie, but goodie Eminence 12" speaker (pauperizes the
Monoprice advert and their shoddy "namebrand" speaker, originally
included), putting that into a open cab. Nice tonally balanced,
articulate and responsive sound for a single 12", just not as bassy,
overall efficient as a closed 4x12" Greenback-cab I'm used to;- nor of
course a bad thing for a premium speaker. Almost wish I'd saved the
bottom half of the amp, I'd sawed off, which I could have flipped for
adding a wood board beneath -- birthing a tiny single speaker
extension: Pretty, pretty, matched in unyellowed virgin, pearly white
Tolex.

Five Chinese tubes. Just noticed, however, an hour or so along a
change in tone, which could be but wouldn't seem likely connections --
a modeler in the Fx loop and 10-band between guitar and input (along
with active electronics in the guitar) -- no doubt for polishing and
cleaning plenty of contacts. Tend to favor its low power (pentode?)
tube plate switching, although neither need much "cranking".

Still, even for a self-adjusting bias amp, cleanliness neither can be
ruled out. A gain to volume shift happened, either lowered volume
output or increased gain, which messed to offset the initial balance
I'd set between clarity and distortion. Could be also tubes. More
picky and trifling than an actuality, perhaps realistically for
subjective annoyances, although it did tend to bust the Virgin Aurora
to an amp that hasn't been extensively used or certainly not abused. Imaginably, the Holy Grail of self-biasing amps never require tube
changes and perform within an immaculate conception, all to their own, forever and ever.

Along with $150, which has away to go yet, regardless, if not too
immoderate a projection yet, "out of the box" with no cost-added
maintenance before exclaiming a Chinese Cub12R's worth fit for the
Golden Rule Book, at least in my edition.

Or, finicky, picky, bothersome, for a fine steel-wool to clean plugs
and contact cleaner to mating them to seated jacks. Pots to check, a
5W low-PWR switch, poking for cold-solder connections, tiny
screwdrivers for tightening tube-pin-slots, then EL84s and preamp
spares to swap, which I haven't, fresh out of the former on an
increasingly niche and expensive aftermarket for tubes;-- nah, all
that's definitely not in the Golden Rule Book, nor shelved remotely
near the section containing the Holy Grail of Amps.

For fuck's sake, you cheap-ass bastard - why don't you buy a real
amp and quit obsessing over random baskets of Chinese commie
junk? The shit you post on this crapfest sounds like the ravings
of a deranged mental patient. Life's too short to polish fucking turds.

Lord Valve
Expert (fuck you)

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From: Flasherly@live.com

On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 05:37:26 -0800 (PST), Lord Valve
<ghost.crapper@gmail.com> wrote:

For fuck's sake, you cheap-ass bastard - why don't you buy a real
amp and quit obsessing over random baskets of Chinese commie
junk? The shit you post on this crapfest sounds like the ravings
of a deranged mental patient. Life's too short to polish fucking turds.

I've already got amps. Also enough tools without a tone generator or
o-scope to know close enough to a good thing once I get there. Took
me no more than an hour or two to take apart and reduce that amp into
a head, a couple days after pulling it from the box new, thinking
until I saw what I wanted. I do that with cheap new espresso
machines, cut the controls for a 10-amp rocker cord switches from
China, tearing them down to a remount to get exposed boilers without
top cases to cover them. No shit, my latest was listed on Homeland
Security, probably because some jerk exploded one in his face. They're
pretty much straight to the point after an extraction and heading out
for contemplating life while sitting on the toilet. I'm enjoying that
Cub-R12 clone, especially the Fx loop in series with the preamp. The
modeler in the Fx-loop is controlled from a software override USB
interface and display software provided to run from a flatpanel 40" on computers I've always built myself from parts since there were
computers. Unlike espresso-territory coffee, I've always built
computers mostly for $200, sometimes less, nearer the $150 for the
amp. Does the same analogy still apply? If not I send back this
replaceable individual key-switch mechanical keyboard, I especially
ordered in from a South Korean distributor for $25. Replace it with
laser actuated switches on a $400 unit with for the gamers.

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From: Flasherly@live.com

On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 00:18:52 -0500, Flasherly <Flasherly@live.com>
wrote:

South Korean distributor for $25.

Btw - slimmer pickings these days.

(One of two audible tactiles, browns being tactile but non-audible. I
wanted to test the higher force green (spring winds) against my blues
for a mixed response, colored layout assignment, keyboard design.
...On the backburner.)

10Pcs Mechanical Keyboard Gateron MX 3 Pin
Green Switch Transparent Case
Item price $2.81
Quantity 1

Chinese solderless barrel-pin drop-in replacements. Bastard, though,
kept my money and never shipped after promised to reship when I
complained. Including Ebay and recent foreign merchant dealings,
which, by new policies further distancing themselves, make it harder
to redress thieves they're then in effect colluding;- even to the an
extent of the balls to ask for a direct credit card # (first for a
verification transaction, dog-&-pony sequence) before allowing
customers voice contact to address an issue.

Much more of that is for going down, protectionalist laws being skewed
against so sad operators. Sadder days, at least I hope not, in east
trade routes for yours truly, the original Mr. Cheap-o, when push
comes to shove with a dispute filed against them, say were punitive
response measures levied against site-customer membership bans
curtailing a right to business and trade.

Also had nasty trouble with fund-transfer fraud from Monoprice, what I
suspect particular to what I'll withhold regarding the Cub-12''s
distributor;- however incidental to entirely different countermeasures
and another channeled legal response from others, within my rights,
adequately represented.

Cheap=0 being generally cool, though anyone might want watch their
ass. Seems easier to get burned, these days, on boutique outer-market
fringes, than before. (Not sure offhand if you also used to be a tube
vendor, yourself on your own site, back in the days of an earlier
WEB.)

-
_Hey, hey - My, my_

You pay for this,
But they give you that.
[Standard Disclaimer:
Once you're gone,
You can't come back.]

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From: NoEmail@ever.com

On 2/26/21 11:18 PM, Flasherly wrote:

On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 05:37:26 -0800 (PST), Lord Valve <ghost.crapper@gmail.com> wrote:

For fuck's sake, you cheap-ass bastard - why don't you buy a real
amp and quit obsessing over random baskets of Chinese commie
junk? The shit you post on this crapfest sounds like the ravings
of a deranged mental patient. Life's too short to polish fucking turds.

I've already got amps. Also enough tools without a tone generator or
o-scope to know close enough to a good thing once I get there. Took
me no more than an hour or two to take apart and reduce that amp into
a head, a couple days after pulling it from the box new, thinking
until I saw what I wanted. I do that with cheap new espresso
machines, cut the controls for a 10-amp rocker cord switches from
China, tearing them down to a remount to get exposed boilers without
top cases to cover them. No shit, my latest was listed on Homeland
Security, probably because some jerk exploded one in his face. They're
pretty much straight to the point after an extraction and heading out
for contemplating life while sitting on the toilet. I'm enjoying that Cub-R12 clone, especially the Fx loop in series with the preamp. The
modeler in the Fx-loop is controlled from a software override USB
interface and display software provided to run from a flatpanel 40" on computers I've always built myself from parts since there were
computers. Unlike espresso-territory coffee, I've always built
computers mostly for $200, sometimes less, nearer the $150 for the
amp. Does the same analogy still apply? If not I send back this
replaceable individual key-switch mechanical keyboard, I especially
ordered in from a South Korean distributor for $25. Replace it with
laser actuated switches on a $400 unit with for the gamers.

https://www.target.com/p/monoprice-sb20-50-watt-all-tube-2-channel-guitar-amp-head-with-spring-reverb-clean-and-overdrive-channels-powerful-adaptable-stage-right-series/-/A-82222570

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