From: ceokareng@gmail.com

On Sunday, June 9, 2013 at 4:57:07 PM UTC-7, jtees4 wrote:

On Sun, 09 Jun 2013 14:00:12 -0400, ib0Ok <bo...@retro.net> wrote:

In article <kotv3e$6lt$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Tony Done

<tony...@bigpond.com> wrote:

On 7/06/2013 3:03 PM, Squier wrote:

Wanted to check out one of these for a short scale guitar (I am a Fender

guy).

I tried out the usual suspects (Gibson Les Pauls and SG's and Epiphone

models

of the LP's and SG's) but never bonded with them or liked them.

Seems the Hagstroms are a bit thinner body LP type of guitar
(Super and Ultra Swede models)
and are supposed to have thinner fast playing necks (??)

No dealer around me to put one in my hand so before I take the
plunger and purchase one from online (with return policy but it's
still nice to actually play one first), I was wondering if anyone
out there has any experience with them. My least worry is how it sounds >> > since a pickup change is easy -- it's more how it feels and plays

(tactile).

Had a look. The Ultra Swede has a low-profile neck and 24.75 scale. Same >> general style as a Bluesehawk, and reasonably light. The Swede was
pretty much like a LP Standard, and about the same weight, with a bit
clubbier neck. The fitting of the nut was sloppy on the Ultra, and the
tailpiece design meant they had to shim it to get the break angle low
enough. Not so good IMO as running the strings of the top of a
Gibson-style tailpiece.

Ask my mates in the other shop. They said there is a short scale Squier
tele, or why not an Epi?

thanks for the info Tony -- appreciated.
I guess it's hit or miss as most other mass made guitars out there (no

matter

where they are made).

Since I can't try one in person I might have to try out an Epi or some other >short scale. The reason I like short scales for drop tuning is that I can >load up a set of 12's on them and the strings still feel reasonable easy to

bend.

If I drop tune (drop C for example) my Fenders when I put on 12's it feels >stiff to play (I am used to playing my Fenders in standard tuning with 009's

set)

So I like that 'feel' to be consistent and yet still have heavier 11's or

12's on

the drp tuning. The short scales can give me that and still have a nice easy >feel to the strings. The long scale bolt on's (ala my Fender's) after drop

tuning

then even 11's feel stiff on them.

Ok well -- it's off to the Sam Ash or Guitar Center to try some other short

scale

guitars. I'll take a look at the Epi's short scales (although I hope they

are

not boat anchor heavy like Gibby LP's). I don't like the 'SG' type of

guitars

so forget about those. They always are headstock heavy and just want to head >dive when playing strapped up. I have to keep the neck up and hold it while >I play and that sucks - if not the thing takes a neck dive all the time.
I am spoiled with the Strat and Tele designs -- you strap them on and they >stay put while you play or stand. very well balanced.

My new Epi LP Ultra III is chambered, so not heavy. That may be a deal breaker for you as it is for some others, but just a thought. No
guitar is as balanced as my Parker Fly Deluxe...amazing...I mean you
take your hands off it and it doesn't move. Even Fenders feel
unbalanced next to it, and yes...Fenders are fairly well balanced
mostly. Good luck.
*************
Some of my music:
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=789610

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From: ceokareng@gmail.com

On Sunday, June 9, 2013 at 4:57:07 PM UTC-7, jtees4 wrote:

On Sun, 09 Jun 2013 14:00:12 -0400, ib0Ok <bo...@retro.net> wrote:

In article <kotv3e$6lt$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Tony Done

<tony...@bigpond.com> wrote:

On 7/06/2013 3:03 PM, Squier wrote:

Wanted to check out
Seems the Hagstroms are a bit thinner body LP type of guitar
(Super and Ultra Swede models)
and are supposed to have thinner fast playing necks (??)

No dealer around me to put one in my hand so before I take the
plunger and purchase one from online (with return policy but it's
still nice to actually play one first), I was wondering if anyone
out there has any experience with them. My least worry is how it sounds >> > since a pickup change is easy -- it's more how it feels and plays

(tactile).

Had a look. The Ultra Swede has a low-profile neck and 24.75 scale. Same >> general style as a Bluesehawk, and reasonably light. The Swede was
pretty much like a LP Standard, and about the same weight, with a bit
clubbier neck. The fitting of the nut was sloppy on the Ultra, and the
tailpiece design meant they had to shim it to get the break angle low
enough. Not so good IMO as running the strings of the top of a
Gibson-style tailpiece.

Ask my mates in the other shop. They said there is a short scale Squier
tele, or why not an Epi?

thanks for the info Tony -- appreciated.
I guess it's hit or miss as most other mass made guitars out there (no

matter

where they are made).

Since I can't try one in person I might have to try out an Epi or some other >short scale. The reason I like short scales for drop tuning is that I can >load up a set of 12's on them and the strings still feel reasonable easy to

bend.

If I drop tune (drop C for example) my Fenders when I put on 12's it feels >stiff to play (I am used to playing my Fenders in standard tuning with 009's

set)

So I like that 'feel' to be consistent and yet still have heavier 11's or

12's on

the drp tuning. The short scales can give me that and still have a nice easy >feel to the strings. The long scale bolt on's (ala my Fender's) after drop

tuning

then even 11's feel stiff on them.

Ok well -- it's off to the Sam Ash or Guitar Center to try some other short

scale

guitars. I'll take a look at the Epi's short scales (although I hope they

are

not boat anchor heavy like Gibby LP's). I don't like the 'SG' type of

guitars

so forget about those. They always are headstock heavy and just want to head >dive when playing strapped up. I have to keep the neck up and hold it while >I play and that sucks - if not the thing takes a neck dive all the time.
I am spoiled with the Strat and Tele designs -- you strap them on and they >stay put while you play or stand. very well balanced.

My new Epi LP Ultra III is chambered, so not heavy. That may be a deal breaker for you as it is for some others, but just a thought. No
guitar is as balanced as my Parker Fly Deluxe...amazing...I mean you
take your hands off it and it doesn't move. Even Fenders feel
unbalanced next to it, and yes...Fenders are fairly well balanced
mostly. Good luck.
*************
Some of my music:
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=789610

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From: NoEmail@ever.com

On 10/18/20 12:56 AM, Karen Gorman wrote:

On Sunday, June 9, 2013 at 4:57:07 PM UTC-7, jtees4 wrote:

On Sun, 09 Jun 2013 14:00:12 -0400, ib0Ok <bo...@retro.net> wrote:

In article <kotv3e$6lt$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Tony Done <tony...@bigpond.com> wrote:

On 7/06/2013 3:03 PM, Squier wrote:

Wanted to check out
Seems the Hagstroms are a bit thinner body LP type of guitar
(Super and Ultra Swede models)
and are supposed to have thinner fast playing necks (??)

No dealer around me to put one in my hand so before I take the
plunger and purchase one from online (with return policy but it's
still nice to actually play one first), I was wondering if anyone
out there has any experience with them. My least worry is how it sounds >>>>> since a pickup change is easy -- it's more how it feels and plays (tactile).

Had a look. The Ultra Swede has a low-profile neck and 24.75 scale. Same >>>> general style as a Bluesehawk, and reasonably light. The Swede was
pretty much like a LP Standard, and about the same weight, with a bit
clubbier neck. The fitting of the nut was sloppy on the Ultra, and the >>>> tailpiece design meant they had to shim it to get the break angle low
enough. Not so good IMO as running the strings of the top of a
Gibson-style tailpiece.

Ask my mates in the other shop. They said there is a short scale Squier >>>> tele, or why not an Epi?

thanks for the info Tony -- appreciated.
I guess it's hit or miss as most other mass made guitars out there (no matter
where they are made).

Since I can't try one in person I might have to try out an Epi or some other
short scale. The reason I like short scales for drop tuning is that I can >>> load up a set of 12's on them and the strings still feel reasonable easy to

bend.

If I drop tune (drop C for example) my Fenders when I put on 12's it feels >>> stiff to play (I am used to playing my Fenders in standard tuning with 009's set)

So I like that 'feel' to be consistent and yet still have heavier 11's or 12's on
the drp tuning. The short scales can give me that and still have a nice easy
feel to the strings. The long scale bolt on's (ala my Fender's) after drop tuning
then even 11's feel stiff on them.

Ok well -- it's off to the Sam Ash or Guitar Center to try some other short

scale

guitars. I'll take a look at the Epi's short scales (although I hope they are
not boat anchor heavy like Gibby LP's). I don't like the 'SG' type of guitars
so forget about those. They always are headstock heavy and just want to head
dive when playing strapped up. I have to keep the neck up and hold it while >>> I play and that sucks - if not the thing takes a neck dive all the time. >>> I am spoiled with the Strat and Tele designs -- you strap them on and they >>> stay put while you play or stand. very well balanced.

My new Epi LP Ultra III is chambered, so not heavy. That may be a deal
breaker for you as it is for some others, but just a thought. No
guitar is as balanced as my Parker Fly Deluxe...amazing...I mean you
take your hands off it and it doesn't move. Even Fenders feel
unbalanced next to it, and yes...Fenders are fairly well balanced
mostly. Good luck.
*************
Some of my music:
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=789610

They don't make them anymore ..

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