• Monoprice 611815 (Laney pat on head)

    From Flasherly@1:229/2 to All on Sunday, July 26, 2020 02:40:53
    From: Flasherly@live.com

    Was a $100 amp when I got it.
    3x12AX7 pre & two EL84 out for a rated 15watts.

    The low/hi input, dunno if that's a tube switched and a plate/emitter
    driven design (5/15watts).

    Yea, I can hear the EL84 characteristics from a lowly claim to a
    PigNose cloned Fender Bassman, which I swap out its 6L6s for
    YeloowJacket EL84 converters.

    What the Monoprice does do it does a lot better than the clone
    Bassman, although that's still a Bassman, nevertheless, what with its
    stock 6L6s for 40watts of more than respectable bass. With
    YellowJackets substituted, it's markedly a narrow limit on power
    width, for what EL84s sound like compared to the Monoprice.

    The Monoprice lacks, as it should, the unpleasant YellowJacket tone
    aberrations driven past and over wider volumes and gain. There's also
    a separate tone control to override its three others, Mid/Treb/Bass
    with a startling tone-suck effect consequent, unless that tone cranked
    wide open. I possibly killed the reverb if it ever worked. Notice
    the included design below: Half an inch below the amp and all around
    the speaker portion, I used a 7" buzz-saw the turned mine into a men's
    size-16 shoebox amp head. Came out surprisingly neat for a fast, new
    and out of a shipping box, flash amp head conversion. Five minutes,
    tops, no foolin' around and I want head, period. At half-an-inch the
    white Tolex worked for the exposed cut areas, re-attach and mated the
    bottom, bottom also cut flush from sides with the circular saw, and
    mating being four of the chrome corner brackets. Gutted. Flipped the
    amp for getting used to reading upside down chicken knobs, the way God intended, so the tubes no longer are a specialty toaster fried amp of
    PCB, slid back in clean and neat with tubes facing up. Probably a
    razor before the power saw, first to cut the Tolex, to get custom
    instead of ratty-assed.

    The thing that makes this amp not break is not its awesomely
    commanding presence, instantaneously apparent for any conceivable
    instrument plugged in. No, it's not a $6000 Marshall, but just $100
    worth of imported Chinese labor at stated design allowance for
    advertising as "a Laney", over assembled parts for more or less
    doubtfully if not serious concessions.

    So to arrive at what it Does Have: A Fx-loop, principally, which
    opens up the amp considerably. A compressor in the loop levels out
    several ways to approach tone balances, allowing for a good idea where
    the noise is, if any, between preamp and amp, where distortion begins
    and what that means in terms of tightening the headscrews into
    15-watts output. A 5-watt "attenuator" as well does work decently
    loud at clean or dirty headroom for a 4x12" halfcab. Haven't a clue
    how many of these amps would be returned for anomalies between
    production units and quality control, when or should they in fact do
    break, among such things as what's involved then in the design. Seems
    I heard Laney is a $2000 Class-A amp, and not quite what a 611815 from
    an Asian warehouse in CA says, anyway, it is. . .

    The Cheapest amp known:

    https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-611815-Amplifier-Celestion-Speaker/dp/B016JDJE9E

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  • From Lord Valve@1:229/2 to Flasherly on Monday, July 27, 2020 07:13:19
    From: ghost.crapper@gmail.com

    The person who posted this lame-ass crappola is a technically
    ignorant fool. Beware of any advice he may provide - his head
    is so far up his ass the only thing he knows anything about
    is his colon.


    On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 12:40:56 AM UTC-6, Flasherly wrote:
    Was a $100 amp when I got it.
    3x12AX7 pre & two EL84 out for a rated 15watts.

    The low/hi input, dunno if that's a tube switched and a plate/emitter
    driven design (5/15watts).

    Yea, I can hear the EL84 characteristics from a lowly claim to a
    PigNose cloned Fender Bassman, which I swap out its 6L6s for
    YeloowJacket EL84 converters.

    What the Monoprice does do it does a lot better than the clone
    Bassman, although that's still a Bassman, nevertheless, what with its
    stock 6L6s for 40watts of more than respectable bass. With
    YellowJackets substituted, it's markedly a narrow limit on power
    width, for what EL84s sound like compared to the Monoprice.

    The Monoprice lacks, as it should, the unpleasant YellowJacket tone aberrations driven past and over wider volumes and gain. There's also
    a separate tone control to override its three others, Mid/Treb/Bass
    with a startling tone-suck effect consequent, unless that tone cranked
    wide open. I possibly killed the reverb if it ever worked. Notice
    the included design below: Half an inch below the amp and all around
    the speaker portion, I used a 7" buzz-saw the turned mine into a men's size-16 shoebox amp head. Came out surprisingly neat for a fast, new
    and out of a shipping box, flash amp head conversion. Five minutes,
    tops, no foolin' around and I want head, period. At half-an-inch the
    white Tolex worked for the exposed cut areas, re-attach and mated the
    bottom, bottom also cut flush from sides with the circular saw, and
    mating being four of the chrome corner brackets. Gutted. Flipped the
    amp for getting used to reading upside down chicken knobs, the way God intended, so the tubes no longer are a specialty toaster fried amp of
    PCB, slid back in clean and neat with tubes facing up. Probably a
    razor before the power saw, first to cut the Tolex, to get custom
    instead of ratty-assed.

    The thing that makes this amp not break is not its awesomely
    commanding presence, instantaneously apparent for any conceivable
    instrument plugged in. No, it's not a $6000 Marshall, but just $100
    worth of imported Chinese labor at stated design allowance for
    advertising as "a Laney", over assembled parts for more or less
    doubtfully if not serious concessions.

    So to arrive at what it Does Have: A Fx-loop, principally, which
    opens up the amp considerably. A compressor in the loop levels out
    several ways to approach tone balances, allowing for a good idea where
    the noise is, if any, between preamp and amp, where distortion begins
    and what that means in terms of tightening the headscrews into
    15-watts output. A 5-watt "attenuator" as well does work decently
    loud at clean or dirty headroom for a 4x12" halfcab. Haven't a clue
    how many of these amps would be returned for anomalies between
    production units and quality control, when or should they in fact do
    break, among such things as what's involved then in the design. Seems
    I heard Laney is a $2000 Class-A amp, and not quite what a 611815 from
    an Asian warehouse in CA says, anyway, it is. . .

    The Cheapest amp known:

    https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-611815-Amplifier-Celestion-Speaker/dp/B016JDJE9E

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Flasherly@1:229/2 to ghost.crapper@gmail.com on Monday, July 27, 2020 12:07:44
    From: Flasherly@live.com

    On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 07:13:19 -0700 (PDT), Lord Valve
    <ghost.crapper@gmail.com> wrote:

    Beware of any advice he may provide

    There is no need to advise from a link to scores of Amazon reviews
    others already provided. Nobody gets to talk anarchistic USENET
    shit, and everybody has to preestablish their credit to buy one before
    getting hot about posting in the preassigned boxes.

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  • From Flasherly@1:229/2 to All on Monday, July 27, 2020 18:19:38
    From: Flasherly@live.com

    On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 12:07:44 -0400, Flasherly <Flasherly@live.com>
    wrote:

    Nobody gets to talk anarchistic USENET shit

    What I saw of the amp from the shipping box was immediately to remove
    the chasis to circularly saw the rest into head of amp, which occurred
    faster than any other interest, aside to briefly plug it for the
    cautionarily escaping smoke check. A minimal expectancy, at least,
    then for a working transformer(s), 5 occupied and wired tube sockets,
    along with front chicken-knob potentiometers and back-plane's plastic
    connects. ...Hypothetically, the only actual note of recollection, as
    much an occurrence, I did happen to make, was of a compact slab more
    or less of integrated silicon half the size a deck of cards for
    controlling all the aforementioned.

    I bought it. It happens: Hybridization of digitally sourced analogue
    through vacuum tubes. I've a pair of preamps running vintage
    broadcast microphone preamp tubes (OEM Russian & Domestics) from laser
    carriers to DAC S/PDIF converters -- one for Crown's latest Class-D
    line-up (lookie here, no heat!). Flipped the big red switch on only
    once, maybe five years ago, and neither looked back.

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  • From Flasherly@1:229/2 to NoName on Tuesday, July 28, 2020 04:48:45
    From: Flasherly@live.com

    On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 20:58:03 -0500, NoName <NoEmail@ever.com> wrote:

    Currently unavailable.

    They're always available, one way or another, given the time to
    locally cruise amps, sniff and hunt;- Play it at the pawn shop, or
    talk to them, that it needs to be setup with the rest of the gear for
    maybe swinging a deal for a 24-hour return window. Won't get that
    from a private owner, though. Play it at home or take it to Lord
    Valve to run a diagnostic for potential problems for $40. I screwed
    up: from the PCB below on Ebay it's lot more components than I'd
    imagined when I had mine briefly out.

    Then there's Ebay's for craps and somebody like me who takes pictures
    of chassis or heads assbackwards and upsidedown.

    The "scoop" with Monoprice, though, is it WAS $125 on a sale;- I guess
    I missed that too;- it's probably just when I first noticed and
    started getting hot about watching Monoprice for the next sale to come
    up. A hundred is still sweet new or near, but a third more, two and
    up, dunno, there of course options in maybe imported, big Bulgarian
    honkers, besides boatloads of used gear.

    12/26/2017 -Dah Nitie B4 Christuns
    15% off cupon: enjoy
    Subtotal : $179.99
    Discount : -$27.00
    Shipping & Handling Cost : $0.00
    Grand Total : $152.99

    Now & then. . . (haven't been on site)

    Monoprice 15-Watt, 1x12 Guitar Combo Tube Amp with Celestion ... https://www.monoprice.com › product › p_id=611815 $249.99

    Ebay is now, used but pretty, though possibly abused, gnawed on
    perversely by cannibals with odd fetishes;- who the hell yanks the
    tubes and then praises it: A yanker comin' on for seconds.

    $89 -
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/ Monoprice-Stage-Right-15-Watt-Guitar-Combo-Tube-Amplifier- Only-PLEASE-READ-c/184376269313?epid=28031091934&hash=item2aedae9a01:g:bOIAAOSwgwhfFfwT

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  • From Lord Valve@1:229/2 to Flasherly on Tuesday, July 28, 2020 02:23:32
    From: ghost.crapper@gmail.com

    On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 10:07:50 AM UTC-6, Flasherly wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 07:13:19 -0700 (PDT), Lord Valve <ghost.raper@sniff-this.com> wrote:

    Beware of any advice he may provide

    There is no need to advise from a link to scores of Amazon reviews
    others already provided. Nobody gets to talk anarchistic USENET
    shit, and everybody has to preestablish their credit to buy one before getting hot about posting in the preassigned boxes.

    Yes - this, from the dude who knowingly pontificated about
    "Celestron" speakers and spoke authoritatively on military
    "ordinance."

    You're a fucking poser and you ain't foolin' nobody, junior.
    The difference between Amazon reviews and the Usenet is that
    on Amazon you can maintain your position as an "expert"
    and no-one can call you on it, while on Usnet someone who
    actually *knows* amplifiers (including the piece of shit
    you're fumbling with now, since I was a Monoprice dealer
    back in the day when they pretended to have a dealer program
    and I had to fix every single one I ever got shipped just to
    get it good enough to sell) from having fixed many thousands
    of tube amps in the last fifty fucking years can say "Hey,
    you are fulla shit and you are fucking WRONG, so shut the fuck
    UP" without some pissant monitor telling him to cool it.

    Plenty more where that came from, Mr. "solder-up these cheap-ass
    Chinese right-angle plugs and they're just as good as a Switch-
    craft," so if you'd like another dose of actual realworld electronics
    reality, just keep it up. Now, you get together with that asswipe
    who thinks you can run a guitar amp (or other audio equipment)
    off a fucking light dimmer (he knows who I'm talking about) and
    form up a counter-strike which will make the both of you look
    even more fucking ridiculous than you do right now, which is
    considerably.


    You stupid shit.

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    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From NoName@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, July 28, 2020 06:59:35
    From: None@None.org

    On 7/28/20 4:23 AM, Lord Valve wrote:


    fat ass

    We are talking about guitar amps - something you have no idea about

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From Flasherly@1:229/2 to ghost.crapper@gmail.com on Tuesday, July 28, 2020 16:27:19
    From: Flasherly@live.com

    On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 02:23:32 -0700 (PDT), Lord Valve
    <ghost.crapper@gmail.com> wrote:

    Yes - this, from the dude who knowingly pontificated about
    "Celestron" speakers and spoke authoritatively on military
    "ordinance."

    You're a fucking poser and you ain't foolin' nobody, junior.
    The difference between Amazon reviews and the Usenet is that
    on Amazon you can maintain your position as an "expert"
    and no-one can call you on it, while on Usnet someone who
    actually *knows* amplifiers (including the piece of shit
    you're fumbling with now, since I was a Monoprice dealer
    back in the day when they pretended to have a dealer program
    and I had to fix every single one I ever got shipped just to
    get it good enough to sell) from having fixed many thousands
    of tube amps in the last fifty fucking years can say "Hey,
    you are fulla shit and you are fucking WRONG, so shut the fuck
    UP" without some pissant monitor telling him to cool it.

    Plenty more where that came from, Mr. "solder-up these cheap-ass
    Chinese right-angle plugs and they're just as good as a Switch-
    craft,

    I can respect electronics. When somebody says it will kill you, I
    listen, only I do not to a friend who's actually damn good at it, who
    doesn't scare from doing it all his life. Me, I can scare. I still
    arc weld from a farm-grade Lincoln welder he helped me, rather did,
    wire into a 220V dryer outlet on a 60-amp fuse I found in a
    fire-&-storm recovery business. Just so, repair and warranty work,
    that's him -- just not on guitar amps but of similar complexity in
    another component electronics field. Not a problem. I've been on
    business calls to people's homes for equipment work/swap, and know
    what goes on both there and back in the shops. He worked them all,
    one end of this big-assed city to another, so that's a lot of experts
    wearing expert hats. Mostly domestic accounts, a few with distantly
    related government contacts, though nothing contractual in any formal
    sense binding.

    I actually made my very own Last Guitar Cable from some ancient
    Switchcraft plugs I found on Ebay. Big eyeball-popping bazookas,
    brass/copper and heavy. I use 000 steel wool to clean them before
    plugging into an semi-hollow electric. They're from Army Signal Core
    Radio Communications Field Operator, WWII, or switchboard telephones
    between manually patched when Al Capone was running around. Whatever.
    They're great plugs in my book, though.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From Lord Valve@1:229/2 to NoName on Tuesday, July 28, 2020 21:49:25
    From: ghost.crapper@gmail.com

    On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 5:59:37 AM UTC-6, NoName wrote:
    On 7/28/20 4:23 AM, Lord Valve wrote:


    fat ass

    We are talking about guitar amps - something you have no idea about

    You got that SCR 220V--->110V stepdown schematic ready to post
    yet? It's been over six fucking months since you said you were
    able to find in on Google in less than five minutes. You've
    been outed as a total know-nothing here and elsewhere so many
    times people don't even bother to open your posts anymore...they
    know whatever you wrote will be a crock of electrically ignorant
    horse-shit.


    You stupid cunt.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From Lord Valve@1:229/2 to Flasherly on Tuesday, July 28, 2020 21:58:38
    From: ghost.crapper@gmail.com

    On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 2:27:23 PM UTC-6, Flasherly wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 02:23:32 -0700 (PDT), Lord Valve <sniff-this@you-poser.com> wrote:

    Yes - this, from the dude who knowingly pontificated about
    "Celestron" speakers and spoke authoritatively on military
    "ordinance."

    You're a fucking poser and you ain't foolin' nobody, junior.
    The difference between Amazon reviews and the Usenet is that
    on Amazon you can maintain your position as an "expert"
    and no-one can call you on it, while on Usnet someone who
    actually *knows* amplifiers (including the piece of shit
    you're fumbling with now, since I was a Monoprice dealer
    back in the day when they pretended to have a dealer program
    and I had to fix every single one I ever got shipped just to
    get it good enough to sell) from having fixed many thousands
    of tube amps in the last fifty fucking years can say "Hey,
    you are fulla shit and you are fucking WRONG, so shut the fuck
    UP" without some pissant monitor telling him to cool it.

    Plenty more where that came from, Mr. "solder-up these cheap-ass
    Chinese right-angle plugs and they're just as good as a Switch-
    craft,

    I can respect electronics. When somebody says it will kill you, I
    listen, only I do not to a friend who's actually damn good at it, who
    doesn't scare from doing it all his life. Me, I can scare. I still
    arc weld from a farm-grade Lincoln welder he helped me, rather did,
    wire into a 220V dryer outlet on a 60-amp fuse I found in a
    fire-&-storm recovery business. Just so, repair and warranty work,
    that's him -- just not on guitar amps but of similar complexity in
    another component electronics field. Not a problem. I've been on
    business calls to people's homes for equipment work/swap, and know
    what goes on both there and back in the shops. He worked them all,
    one end of this big-assed city to another, so that's a lot of experts
    wearing expert hats. Mostly domestic accounts, a few with distantly
    related government contacts, though nothing contractual in any formal
    sense binding.

    I actually made my very own Last Guitar Cable from some ancient
    Switchcraft plugs I found on Ebay. Big eyeball-popping bazookas, brass/copper and heavy. I use 000 steel wool to clean them before
    plugging into an semi-hollow electric. They're from Army Signal Core
    Radio Communications Field Operator, WWII, or switchboard telephones
    between manually patched when Al Capone was running around. Whatever. They're great plugs in my book, though.

    Just stop. Nobody cares if you can install dryer outlets
    or arc-weld. I can arc-weld, MIG, TIG, you fucking name
    it - I can gas-weld too, everything from a jeweler's
    torch to a fucking plasma cutter. Why do I never mention
    shit like that? Because these are alt.GUITAR/AMPS/WHATEVER
    groups, not alt.farm.equipment.fuckity-fuck-fuck-fuck, you
    stupid shit.

    Did I mention you were a stupid shit?


    You stupid shit.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From Flasherly@1:229/2 to ghost.crapper@gmail.com on Wednesday, July 29, 2020 17:08:29
    From: Flasherly@live.com

    On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 21:58:38 -0700 (PDT), Lord Valve
    <ghost.crapper@gmail.com> wrote:

    Just stop. Nobody cares if you can install dryer outlets
    or arc-weld. I can arc-weld, MIG, TIG, you fucking name
    it - I can gas-weld too, everything from a jeweler's
    torch to a fucking plasma cutter. Why do I never mention
    shit like that? Because these are alt.GUITAR/AMPS/WHATEVER
    groups, not alt.farm.equipment.fuckity-fuck-fuck-fuck, you
    stupid shit.

    Did I mention you were a stupid shit?


    You stupid shit.

    I've a Chinese amp, the first imported, that's lasted 30 years. Still
    works fine. This one's the second but with a Fx loop. It could be
    another case of your worst nightmare: goods delivered that work
    without breaking.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From Lord Valve@1:229/2 to Flasherly on Wednesday, July 29, 2020 15:27:22
    From: ghost.crapper@gmail.com

    On Wednesday, July 29, 2020 at 3:08:32 PM UTC-6, Flasherly wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 21:58:38 -0700 (PDT), Lord Valve
    <eat-this@turd.com> wrote:

    Just stop. Nobody cares if you can install dryer outlets
    or arc-weld. I can arc-weld, MIG, TIG, you fucking name
    it - I can gas-weld too, everything from a jeweler's
    torch to a fucking plasma cutter. Why do I never mention
    shit like that? Because these are alt.GUITAR/AMPS/WHATEVER
    groups, not alt.farm.equipment.fuckity-fuck-fuck-fuck, you
    stupid shit.

    Did I mention you were a stupid shit?


    You stupid shit.

    I've a Chinese amp, the first imported, that's lasted 30 years. Still
    works fine.

    Yes, miracles do happen. It's what keeps the priesthood
    class in business. So what?


    This one's the second but with a Fx loop. It could be
    another case of your worst nightmare: goods delivered that work
    without breaking.

    I've been selling quality goods for over five decades.
    I never once had a piece from Studiomaster, Ashly, QSC
    and many, many others that was DOA. Chinese goods are
    another case entirely - the failure rate is horrendous.

    There *are* some Chinese companies which build to spec -
    these are called "crunch lines" and they will take their
    existing designs and crunch your logo onto them, or they
    will take your specs/plans and build to those. That's
    where the weenie in this roast comes in: if your spec
    calls for a power supply with 15-volt rails, that's
    what you'll get...but the caps on those rails will be
    16V parts if you didn't directly specify something else.
    An American/Brit/German/etc. engineer knows to spec 25V
    *minimum* for those parts, with around twice the rail
    voltage being the ideal value for longevity/reliability.
    What's more, if the Chinese fabricator is allowed to
    use 16V caps on those 15V rails, he will use the absolute
    cheapest parts he can get in order to maximize profit for
    his company. This spec/quality dance must be performed for
    EVERY SINGLE PART IN THE UNIT, and any part which is not
    scrutinized, specified and specifically ordered to be a
    certain type, voltage, MTBF (etc.) *will* be a piece of
    shit selected by the fabricator to maximize his bottom
    line. Period. Warranty? Don't make me laugh - that's the
    importer's problem, and he'll figure the horrendous failure
    rate into his bottom line, often offering end users a
    complete replacement unit in lieu of on-the-scene repairs.
    (Many Behringer units, for instance.) Decent gear is built
    UP to a quality point; Chinese gear is built DOWN to a price
    point.

    So - you jive-ass schmuck - you can stick your snarky
    little "worst nightmare" comments where the sun don't
    shine. Shit breaks. I fix it. Chinese shit breaks a
    LOT, but I don't fix much of it - no matter how much
    time, better parts, skill, effort (etc.) you put into
    fixing it, it's going to break again, and the second
    time around, you work for free. Fuck that - I have
    dogs and grandchildren to enjoy, and no time for
    fucking posers who can't tell shit from apple butter.

    That'd be YOU, Hoss. Have A Nice Fucking Day.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Flasherly@1:229/2 to ghost.crapper@gmail.com on Wednesday, July 29, 2020 20:07:11
    From: Flasherly@live.com

    On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 15:27:22 -0700 (PDT), Lord Valve
    <ghost.crapper@gmail.com> wrote:


    There *are* some Chinese companies which build to spec -
    these are called "crunch lines" and they will take their
    existing designs and crunch your logo onto them, or they
    will take your specs/plans and build to those. That's
    where the weenie in this roast comes in: if your spec
    calls for a power supply with 15-volt rails, that's
    what you'll get...but the caps on those rails will be
    16V parts if you didn't directly specify something else.
    An American/Brit/German/etc. engineer knows to spec 25V
    *minimum* for those parts, with around twice the rail
    voltage being the ideal value for longevity/reliability.
    What's more, if the Chinese fabricator is allowed to
    use 16V caps on those 15V rails, he will use the absolute
    cheapest parts he can get in order to maximize profit for
    his company. This spec/quality dance must be performed for
    EVERY SINGLE PART IN THE UNIT, and any part which is not
    scrutinized, specified and specifically ordered to be a
    certain type, voltage, MTBF (etc.) *will* be a piece of
    shit selected by the fabricator to maximize his bottom
    line. Period. Warranty? Don't make me laugh - that's the
    importer's problem, and he'll figure the horrendous failure
    rate into his bottom line, often offering end users a
    complete replacement unit in lieu of on-the-scene repairs.
    (Many Behringer units, for instance.) Decent gear is built
    UP to a quality point; Chinese gear is built DOWN to a price
    point.

    Yep. Why I flipped that chassis, tubes up, first thing: I don't want
    heat on questionable components;- And why I don't expect to push that
    amp, especially, now for the time being beyond a 5-watt low-power
    mode, not much below its rated 15-watts;- not that throwing in a bunch
    of EQs, compressors (both from a modeler and dedicated compressor
    pedal), stock ratings, for at least as they're controlled from the amp
    alone, tend override to hot-boost the output. Miracles. The very old
    Chinese amp is just such, "stamped", but, again like this new one,
    it's promoted as much on a presumption for such [sic] Chinese MADE;-
    they're both significantly under-$200 tubed with ostentation claims to "boutique" amps (40- and 15-watt respectively in 6L6/EL84 designs).
    Perhaps only a suspicious twist of advertising - "This amp is God
    Engineered <insert gloss-copy of Marshall Engineer or amp model
    purportedly cloned>, which is why, if you act today and only today, it
    too can be yours for under $200!" A point Peavey, say, certainly
    wouldn't distinguish -- 'Hey, it's still Peavey before and regardless
    the assembly origin: WYSIWYG, Jack-o' I'd at least hope, in between
    reviews, scunges or whatnot, as it goes with the territory, there may
    be a glint of an idea how, exactly, a background to your phrasing,
    STAMP, actually works. Sure, if XYZ' amp reputability is the
    bottom-line for trading-takeovers and leveraging -- then it's
    Dogsville: even the one-eyed is king of the blind, slanted
    withstanding. Quality Control doesn't work that way, though,
    presuming there's some resident portion of culpable interests capable
    of actually, contractually accounting for a good shit, presumably a
    better interest, over what's implicitly ordered and what's acceptably delivered, at least while collecting a paycheck for the title of QC of
    XYZ. Hear it or not, hit and miss, sometimes even with a bonus
    screwing thrown in, I couldn't say playing odds isn't to be heeded,
    hopefully, at an average sum gain over more expensive quality
    offerings. Not everyone simply buys every failure to every brand known
    for failures;- although do it often enough and I'm sure they'll know
    what you're saying. Monoprice is a tack-&-pin store, more cables and
    like, low-cost computer and sound component accessories than
    high-dollar items. They do however have a following -- some of those nickel-dime accessories can be annoyingly hard to find elsewhere,
    jacked-up readily over multiples more than nailing low-average costs.
    And, small as that may be, a little poll of reviews on a little
    Monoprice guitar amp do exist for one more than less favorably
    disposed.

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  • From Flasherly@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, July 29, 2020 20:26:11
    From: Flasherly@live.com

    On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 20:07:11 -0400, Flasherly <Flasherly@live.com>
    wrote:

    favorably disposed.

    -
    Oh, yeah. On welding I tend to heavier iron. I welded an amp case
    from a 100 gal. wrought-iron fish-tank stand, with over-duty bedrails
    from a hybrid, tubed-mattress waterbed, extending it out into 200
    gallon capacity. Carefully testing each weld by throwing it out hot
    from the garage, to the street, to see how they hold under impact,
    before ground, primed and painted. Ever seen a mother holding her
    hands over a child's eyes from a distance of 200 feet?

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