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    From LULU@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, May 09, 2020 07:52:18
    From: lulupakalolo@yahoo.com

    His early 45's and dynamic stage shows created a rock and roll legend. Fun music.

    Lulu : (

    Little Richard, Rock Pioneer Who Broke Musical Barriers, Dead at 87 - Rolling Stone
    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/little-richard-dead-48505/

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  • From LULU@1:229/2 to LULU on Saturday, May 09, 2020 10:13:22
    From: lulupakalolo@yahoo.com

    On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 7:52:20 AM UTC-7, LULU wrote:
    His early 45's and dynamic stage shows created a rock and roll legend. Fun
    music.

    Lulu : (

    Little Richard, Rock Pioneer Who Broke Musical Barriers, Dead at 87 - Rolling
    Stone
    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/little-richard-dead-48505/



    The real source of Little Richard's musical style and sound.

    All artists steal,
    Lulu ; )


    Esquerita -
    https://youtu.be/jjJ6okMLGDs

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  • From LULU@1:229/2 to Twang on Saturday, May 09, 2020 17:46:30
    From: lulupakalolo@yahoo.com

    On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 3:19:27 PM UTC-7, Twang wrote:
    On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 12:13:25 PM UTC-5, LULU wrote:
    On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 7:52:20 AM UTC-7, LULU wrote:
    His early 45's and dynamic stage shows created a rock and roll legend.
    Fun music.

    Lulu : (

    Little Richard, Rock Pioneer Who Broke Musical Barriers, Dead at 87 -
    Rolling Stone
    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/little-richard-dead-48505/



    The real source of Little Richard's musical style and sound.

    All artists steal,
    Lulu ; )

    You need to pay attention to the difference between stealing, and having been
    influenced.
    All artists are influenced, some of them steal.
    Little Richard copied a hair do... so did everyone from the sixties copy the
    beatles.
    and earlier, elvis. that's NOT stealing.
    He heard voice and realized he could do it better..and did. that's not
    stealing.
    You can't find anyone who hears something good and doesn't try to do it
    better.
    That's not stealing.
    If you call it stealing, there is NO progress at all.
    How about the music itself? Did he steal that?
    Did he steal the piano?
    Don't be a fool Lulu.



    Esquerita -
    https://youtu.be/jjJ6okMLGDs


    You're really overthinking this. I like Little Richard as an entertainer. He had a half dozen hits at best, before he flipped out on religion and basically dropped his music career. He was included in the inaugural group of 10 artists
    inducted into
    The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He was famous. He also stole a lot of the stuff that people think he innovated.

    Thanks for the smug condescension,
    Lulu ; )

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  • From Twang@1:229/2 to LULU on Saturday, May 09, 2020 15:19:25
    From: coleman_patrick@hotmail.com

    On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 12:13:25 PM UTC-5, LULU wrote:
    On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 7:52:20 AM UTC-7, LULU wrote:
    His early 45's and dynamic stage shows created a rock and roll legend. Fun
    music.

    Lulu : (

    Little Richard, Rock Pioneer Who Broke Musical Barriers, Dead at 87 -
    Rolling Stone
    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/little-richard-dead-48505/



    The real source of Little Richard's musical style and sound.

    All artists steal,
    Lulu ; )

    You need to pay attention to the difference between stealing, and having been influenced.
    All artists are influenced, some of them steal.
    Little Richard copied a hair do... so did everyone from the sixties copy the beatles.
    and earlier, elvis. that's NOT stealing.
    He heard voice and realized he could do it better..and did. that's not stealing.
    You can't find anyone who hears something good and doesn't try to do it better. That's not stealing.
    If you call it stealing, there is NO progress at all.
    How about the music itself? Did he steal that?
    Did he steal the piano?
    Don't be a fool Lulu.



    Esquerita -
    https://youtu.be/jjJ6okMLGDs

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    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From %@1:229/2 to LULU on Saturday, May 09, 2020 18:26:07
    From: persent@gmail.com

    On 2020-05-09 5:46 p.m., LULU wrote:
    On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 3:19:27 PM UTC-7, Twang wrote:
    On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 12:13:25 PM UTC-5, LULU wrote:
    On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 7:52:20 AM UTC-7, LULU wrote:
    His early 45's and dynamic stage shows created a rock and roll legend. Fun music.

    Lulu : (

    Little Richard, Rock Pioneer Who Broke Musical Barriers, Dead at 87 - Rolling Stone
    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/little-richard-dead-48505/ >>>


    The real source of Little Richard's musical style and sound.

    All artists steal,
    Lulu ; )

    You need to pay attention to the difference between stealing, and having been influenced.
    All artists are influenced, some of them steal.
    Little Richard copied a hair do... so did everyone from the sixties copy the
    beatles.
    and earlier, elvis. that's NOT stealing.
    He heard voice and realized he could do it better..and did. that's not stealing.
    You can't find anyone who hears something good and doesn't try to do it better.
    That's not stealing.
    If you call it stealing, there is NO progress at all.
    How about the music itself? Did he steal that?
    Did he steal the piano?
    Don't be a fool Lulu.



    Esquerita -
    https://youtu.be/jjJ6okMLGDs


    You're really overthinking this. I like Little Richard as an entertainer.
    He had a half dozen hits at best, before he flipped out on religion and basically dropped his music career. He was included in the inaugural group of 10 artists inducted into
    The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He was famous. He also stole a lot of the stuff that people think he innovated.

    Thanks for the smug condescension,
    Lulu ; )

    little richard stole music

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  • From Twang@1:229/2 to LULU on Sunday, May 10, 2020 17:34:33
    From: coleman_patrick@hotmail.com

    On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 7:46:33 PM UTC-5, LULU wrote:
    On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 3:19:27 PM UTC-7, Twang wrote:
    On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 12:13:25 PM UTC-5, LULU wrote:
    On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 7:52:20 AM UTC-7, LULU wrote:
    His early 45's and dynamic stage shows created a rock and roll legend.
    Fun music.

    Lulu : (

    Little Richard, Rock Pioneer Who Broke Musical Barriers, Dead at 87 -
    Rolling Stone
    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/little-richard-dead-48505/



    The real source of Little Richard's musical style and sound.

    All artists steal,
    Lulu ; )

    You need to pay attention to the difference between stealing, and having
    been influenced.
    All artists are influenced, some of them steal.
    Little Richard copied a hair do... so did everyone from the sixties copy
    the beatles.
    and earlier, elvis. that's NOT stealing.
    He heard voice and realized he could do it better..and did. that's not
    stealing.
    You can't find anyone who hears something good and doesn't try to do it
    better.
    That's not stealing.
    If you call it stealing, there is NO progress at all.
    How about the music itself? Did he steal that?
    Did he steal the piano?
    Don't be a fool Lulu.



    Esquerita -
    https://youtu.be/jjJ6okMLGDs


    You're really overthinking this. I like Little Richard as an entertainer.
    He had a half dozen hits at best, before he flipped out on religion and basically dropped his music career. He was included in the inaugural group of 10 artists inducted into
    The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He was famous. He also stole a lot of the stuff that people think he innovated.

    Thanks for the smug condescension,
    Lulu ; )

    You're so stupid I can't believe it.
    half a dozen hits that practically defined rock n roll.
    He never stole anything, show me one tune he plagiarised.. which is what stealing music is.
    I am smug.. you're a fucking twit.

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  • From notbob@1:229/2 to All on Sunday, May 10, 2020 13:19:39
    From: notbob@nothome.com

    On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 3:19:27 PM UTC-7, Twang wrote:

    You need to pay attention to the difference between stealing, and having been influenced.

    He heard voice and realized he could do it better..and did. that's not stealing.

    Geez! .....gonna be a 'pain' much?

    "Stealing" is jes a term. "Ifluenced". "Stealing". Most folks knew
    what LULU meant.

    The 1st and 2nd band I was in did NOT copy the Beatles. We broke up
    cuz singing was NOT in our repertoire. I'm sure we 'stole' from The
    Ventures and other surf bands.

    Get a life, whydonchya! ;)

    nb

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  • From Twang@1:229/2 to notbob on Sunday, May 10, 2020 17:35:31
    From: coleman_patrick@hotmail.com

    On Sunday, May 10, 2020 at 8:19:42 AM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
    On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 3:19:27 PM UTC-7, Twang wrote:

    You need to pay attention to the difference between stealing, and having
    been influenced.

    He heard voice and realized he could do it better..and did. that's not
    stealing.

    Geez! .....gonna be a 'pain' much?

    "Stealing" is jes a term. "Ifluenced". "Stealing". Most folks knew
    what LULU meant.

    The 1st and 2nd band I was in did NOT copy the Beatles. We broke up
    cuz singing was NOT in our repertoire. I'm sure we 'stole' from The
    Ventures and other surf bands.

    Get a life, whydonchya! ;)

    nb

    influenced isn't stealing you moron.
    lulu sucks donkey dick.
    I'm sure you stole too. because you're a prick.
    now die.

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  • From %@1:229/2 to Twang on Sunday, May 10, 2020 18:28:42
    From: persent@gmail.com

    On 2020-05-10 5:34 p.m., Twang wrote:
    On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 7:46:33 PM UTC-5, LULU wrote:
    On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 3:19:27 PM UTC-7, Twang wrote:
    On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 12:13:25 PM UTC-5, LULU wrote:
    On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 7:52:20 AM UTC-7, LULU wrote:
    His early 45's and dynamic stage shows created a rock and roll legend. Fun music.

    Lulu : (

    Little Richard, Rock Pioneer Who Broke Musical Barriers, Dead at 87 - Rolling Stone
    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/little-richard-dead-48505/ >>>>


    The real source of Little Richard's musical style and sound.

    All artists steal,
    Lulu ; )

    You need to pay attention to the difference between stealing, and having been influenced.
    All artists are influenced, some of them steal.
    Little Richard copied a hair do... so did everyone from the sixties copy the beatles.
    and earlier, elvis. that's NOT stealing.
    He heard voice and realized he could do it better..and did. that's not stealing.
    You can't find anyone who hears something good and doesn't try to do it better.
    That's not stealing.
    If you call it stealing, there is NO progress at all.
    How about the music itself? Did he steal that?
    Did he steal the piano?
    Don't be a fool Lulu.



    Esquerita -
    https://youtu.be/jjJ6okMLGDs


    You're really overthinking this. I like Little Richard as an entertainer. He had a half dozen hits at best, before he flipped out on religion and basically dropped his music career. He was included in the inaugural group of 10 artists inducted into
    The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He was famous. He also stole a lot of the stuff that people think he innovated.

    Thanks for the smug condescension,
    Lulu ; )

    You're so stupid I can't believe it.
    half a dozen hits that practically defined rock n roll.
    He never stole anything, show me one tune he plagiarised.. which is what
    stealing music is.
    I am smug.. you're a fucking twit.

    he stole

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  • From %@1:229/2 to Twang on Sunday, May 10, 2020 18:29:07
    From: persent@gmail.com

    On 2020-05-10 5:35 p.m., Twang wrote:
    On Sunday, May 10, 2020 at 8:19:42 AM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
    On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 3:19:27 PM UTC-7, Twang wrote:

    You need to pay attention to the difference between stealing, and having been influenced.

    He heard voice and realized he could do it better..and did. that's not stealing.

    Geez! .....gonna be a 'pain' much?

    "Stealing" is jes a term. "Ifluenced". "Stealing". Most folks knew
    what LULU meant.

    The 1st and 2nd band I was in did NOT copy the Beatles. We broke up
    cuz singing was NOT in our repertoire. I'm sure we 'stole' from The
    Ventures and other surf bands.

    Get a life, whydonchya! ;)

    nb

    influenced isn't stealing you moron.
    lulu sucks donkey dick.
    I'm sure you stole too. because you're a prick.
    now die.

    you stole that

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  • From Neil@1:229/2 to LULU on Monday, May 11, 2020 14:04:20
    From: neil@myplaceofwork.com

    On 5/9/2020 1:13 PM, LULU wrote:
    On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 7:52:20 AM UTC-7, LULU wrote:
    His early 45's and dynamic stage shows created a rock and roll legend. Fun music.

    Lulu : (

    Little Richard, Rock Pioneer Who Broke Musical Barriers, Dead at 87 - Rolling Stone
    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/little-richard-dead-48505/



    The real source of Little Richard's musical style and sound.

    All artists steal,
    Lulu ; )


    Esquerita -
    https://youtu.be/jjJ6okMLGDs

    Well, you fired up the crowd with these claims. ;-)

    A genre that is based on a 3-chord sequence, loud singing and 4/4 time
    makes "originality" pretty much meaningless.

    But, there is a definition of stealing a song that differs from the
    colloquial use of the term.

    For example: <https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-lists/songs-on-trial-12-landmark-music-copyright-cases-166396/the-beach-boys-vs-chuck-berry-1963-65098/>

    <https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2015/04/23/6-current-copyright-cases-more-important-than-blurred-lines/>

    Frankly, I read the claims that Little Richard "stole" music as little
    more than an attempt to denigrate his popularity. That said, he was only
    a "founder of Rock & Roll" to youngsters, since I recall listening to Bo Diddley and others around 1950-52, the period when the genre was named. ;-)

    --
    best regards,

    Neil

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  • From %@1:229/2 to Neil on Monday, May 11, 2020 11:45:49
    From: persent@gmail.com

    On 2020-05-11 11:04 a.m., Neil wrote:
    On 5/9/2020 1:13 PM, LULU wrote:
    On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 7:52:20 AM UTC-7, LULU wrote:
    His early 45's and dynamic stage shows created a rock and roll
    legend.  Fun music.

    Lulu : (

    Little Richard, Rock Pioneer Who Broke Musical Barriers, Dead at 87 -
    Rolling Stone
    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/little-richard-dead-48505/



    The real source of Little Richard's musical style and sound.

    All artists steal,
    Lulu ; )


    Esquerita -
    https://youtu.be/jjJ6okMLGDs

    Well, you fired up the crowd with these claims. ;-)

    A genre that is based on a 3-chord sequence, loud singing and 4/4 time
    makes "originality" pretty much meaningless.

    But, there is a definition of stealing  a song that differs from the colloquial use of the term.

    For example: <https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-lists/songs-on-trial-12-landmark-music-copyright-cases-166396/the-beach-boys-vs-chuck-berry-1963-65098/>


    <https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2015/04/23/6-current-copyright-cases-more-important-than-blurred-lines/>


    Frankly, I read the claims that Little Richard "stole" music as little
    more than an attempt to denigrate his popularity. That said, he was only
    a "founder of Rock & Roll" to youngsters, since I recall listening to Bo Diddley and others around 1950-52, the period when the genre was named.
    ;-)

    he stole music , he stole style , and had no musical aptitude

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  • From Neil@1:229/2 to notbob on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 13:48:04
    From: neil@myplaceofwork.com

    On 5/13/2020 1:06 PM, notbob wrote:
    On 2020-05-11, Neil <neil@myplaceofwork.com> wrote:

    .....since I recall listening to Bo
    Diddley and others around 1950-52, the period when the genre was named. ;-)

    Do you recall hearing Conway Twitty?

    BTW, RnR did not acquire it's official name (in the USofA) until the
    yr, 1954. ;)

    nb

    Of course I recall Conway Twitty, and many others who shaped the genre.

    As for the dating of the name, the precise date is unclear, which is why
    I referred to it as a "period". Even the Wikipedia reference that stated
    the 1954 date conflict with information it the same article:

    "In 1934, the song "Rock and Roll" by the Boswell Sisters appeared in
    the film Transatlantic Merry-Go-Round. In 1942, Billboard magazine
    columnist Maurie Orodenker started to use the term "rock-and-roll" to
    describe upbeat recordings such as "Rock Me" by Sister Rosetta
    Tharpe.[17] By 1943, the "Rock and Roll Inn" in South Merchantville, New Jersey, was established as a music venue.[18] In 1951, Cleveland, Ohio,
    disc jockey Alan Freed began playing this music style while popularizing
    the phrase to describe it.[19]"

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_and_roll>

    Point being that most of this pre-dated Little Richard by about a decade.

    Neil

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  • From %@1:229/2 to notbob on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:17:36
    From: persent@gmail.com

    On 2020-05-13 10:06 a.m., notbob wrote:
    On 2020-05-11, Neil <neil@myplaceofwork.com> wrote:

    .....since I recall listening to Bo
    Diddley and others around 1950-52, the period when the genre was named. ;-)

    Do you recall hearing Conway Twitty?

    BTW, RnR did not acquire it's official name (in the USofA) until the
    yr, 1954. ;)

    nb

    little richard stole his style

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  • From notbob@1:229/2 to Neil on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 17:06:22
    From: notbob@nothome.com

    On 2020-05-11, Neil <neil@myplaceofwork.com> wrote:

    .....since I recall listening to Bo
    Diddley and others around 1950-52, the period when the genre was named. ;-)

    Do you recall hearing Conway Twitty?

    BTW, RnR did not acquire it's official name (in the USofA) until the
    yr, 1954. ;)

    nb

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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