• Re: Fed up with OVERPRICED guitars!

    From jwcanza@gmail.com@1:229/2 to And on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 11:25:52
    On Friday, December 1, 1995 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-8, And wrote:
    I'm fed up with overpriced guitars!

    Technology has made them A LOT cheaper to produce today than they have ever been to make.
    If guitars were resonably priced according the cost of their development in

    the same way computer have, they should only cost $200 each, cases $50, amps much cheaper.

    The markup on new guitars is offensive and digusting. The only affordable guitars are cheap junk that lose 2/3 of their value the second you walk out out of the store with them. They suck so bad, that when beginning guitar players try to learn on them, they become frustrated and their sound is not pleasing and does not sound like their idols who inspired them to play guitar in the first place.

    Many guitars are sold at outrageous list prices, then discounted to
    still outrageous overpriced prices. They cost the stores less than half of what they're selling it for minus 5%. This markup percentagewise is higher that of a Mercedes Benz or Ferrari. Prices are made according to "perceived image value" and not cost of manufacturer, development, labor,
    transportation,
    and reasonable profit. It's price gouging pure and simple.

    And many kids get frustrated that their cheap guitars sound bad, go out of tune constantly, and feel "cheap" and give it up. This is stark contrast to the 50's when even mail order catalog guitars were made in the USA and made with quality that lasts.

    I hope something changes the guitar market. USA guitars are like Harley Davidson motorcycles, sold on image at outrageously overpriced prices to
    only to very wealthy people who do not ride them, just bought for display
    and investment value, real estate.

    I'm just really fed up with these prices. Maybe something will happen in the music biz where guitar bands are "out" again, like in the late 70's disco era when guitars actually starting becomming realistically priced, new and used, as instruments to be played by real people, not just vintage
    collectors.

    I would have liked to have bought a new guitar this year, but the markup and overpriced stigma attatched to it makes me feel like I've just got punched in the stomach (like the last time I bought a new guitar.)

    I hope some execs in a few instrument companies read this. If you keep overpricing your guitars, maybe the "kids" won't be comming back anymore
    and they'll find other places to express themselves musicially.

    Andrew

    I find it ironic that the players who play that people want to be like would NEVER pay the prices being asked for now. They now are given the guitar by overpriced manufacturers so they play them but all before played reasonably priced "used' guitars or
    mid to lower end. Sites like 'Destroy all guitars', Wildwood and others like them feed on the ego's of wealthy guitar players who are in to the price of the
    guitar more than what it can do. Even Manufactures got out of hand. G&L, Reverend all jacked
    their prices when times were good. Well, those day are over. They will all be
    hard pressed to find players you can afford to spend 2K-8K for 'fun'. When they advertise now its offensive. Just like a celebrity sitting in their manson and SAUNA OR
    SHOWING OFF HIGH END ICE CREAM as if they are struggling and doing their part.
    While many simple look to see if they can afford and find food for the day while looking at their children. Plenty of used gear and its time for a do over in pricing new
    gear.

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  • From NoName@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 19:02:16
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  • From Flasherly@1:229/2 to NoName on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 21:04:37
    From: Flasherly@live.com

    On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 19:02:16 -0400, NoName <NoEmail@ever.com> wrote:


    I find it ironic that the players who play that people want to be like
    would NEVER pay the prices being asked for now. They now are given
    the guitar by overpriced manufacturers so they play them but all
    before played reasonably priced "used' guitars or mid to lower end.
    Sites like 'Destroy all guitars', Wildwood and others like them feed
    on the ego's of wealthy guitar players who are in to the price of the
    guitar more than what it can do. Even Manufactures got out of hand.
    G&L, Reverend all jacked their prices when times were good. Well,
    those day are over. They will all be hard pressed to find players you
    can afford to spend 2K-8K for 'fun'. When they advertise now its
    offensive. Just like a celebrity sitting in their manson and SAUNA
    OR SHOWING OFF HIGH END ICE CREAM as if they are struggling and doing
    their part. While many simple look to see if they can afford and find
    food for the day while looking at their children. Plenty of used gear
    and its time for a do over in pricing new gear.




    This article is from 1995.

    It's evidently yesterday for many living through the state of
    haves/havenots, within an economy supportive an unfathomable depth to
    its premise, above all else, greed and avarice;- living out "the life"
    to its consequent dream, as one which cannot face reasons behind
    having to turn its back on the rest for its contributory part to a
    role that earned it secondary mention in a world of producers of
    pollution. A life and dream for one little girl, someone just
    remarked ingenuously, in reaction, that she have a "happy life" ahead,
    after she expressed her opinion of her life as one inside an "house
    on fire".

    -
    "Andrew . . . fucking Andrew."
    -The Rolling Stones (Lyrics; Andrew's Blues, 1964)

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