• bbs and usenet

    From Toaster@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, April 10, 2025 01:20:42
    From: toaster@dne3.net

    When BBS systems were popular, did anyone ever hook their bbs to
    usenet? I know fidonet came along, but wasn't usenet similar? or was
    fidonet like email?

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  • From Dan Cross@1:229/2 to toaster@dne3.net on Thursday, April 10, 2025 12:10:11
    From: cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net

    In article <20250410012042.0000194e@dne3.net>,
    Toaster <toaster@dne3.net> wrote:
    When BBS systems were popular, did anyone ever hook their bbs to
    usenet? I know fidonet came along, but wasn't usenet similar? or was
    fidonet like email?

    They did, often to the consternation of USENET users. Sometimes
    it worked well, but often there was cultural conflict, perhaps
    particularly on the more technical groups.

    - Dan C.

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  • From Dumas Walker@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, April 10, 2025 09:14:00
    From: Dumas.Walker@f10.n1.z275.fidonet.org

    When BBS systems were popular, did anyone ever hook their bbs to
    usenet? I know fidonet came along, but wasn't usenet similar? or was
    fidonet like email?

    Yes, back in the mid-1990s (about 30 years ago), I carried several usenet newsgroups. It became increasingly difficult to do so, though, as ISPs eventually did away with news servers as a part of their services. I still currently carry a few, like this one, via fidonet hubs that still have a
    gate set up.


    * SLMR 2.1a * A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. -J.Springfield

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  • From Toaster@1:229/2 to Dumas Walker on Thursday, April 10, 2025 11:22:30
    From: toaster@dne3.net

    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 09:14:00 +1300
    Dumas.Walker@f10.n1.z275.fidonet.org (Dumas Walker) wrote:

    When BBS systems were popular, did anyone ever hook their bbs to
    usenet? I know fidonet came along, but wasn't usenet similar? or was fidonet like email?

    Yes, back in the mid-1990s (about 30 years ago), I carried several
    usenet newsgroups. It became increasingly difficult to do so,
    though, as ISPs eventually did away with news servers as a part of
    their services. I still currently carry a few, like this one, via
    fidonet hubs that still have a gate set up.


    * SLMR 2.1a * A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.
    -J.Springfield

    is there still traffic on fidonet?

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  • From Dumas Walker@1:229/2 to All on Friday, April 11, 2025 09:20:00
    From: Dumas.Walker@f10.n1.z281.fidonet.org

    Yes, back in the mid-1990s (about 30 years ago), I carried several
    usenet newsgroups. It became increasingly difficult to do so,
    though, as ISPs eventually did away with news servers as a part of
    their services. I still currently carry a few, like this one, via
    fidonet hubs that still have a gate set up.

    is there still traffic on fidonet?

    Yes, some echoes more than others. COOKING has several messages a day. A couple of the political echoes have lots of traffic. Others have at least
    a message or two a day. Several probably need to be pruned.


    * SLMR 2.1a * "I'm cold, and there are wolves after me!"-Granpa Simpson

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  • From Toaster@1:229/2 to Dumas Walker on Friday, April 11, 2025 12:51:20
    From: toaster@dne3.net

    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 09:20:00 +1300
    Dumas.Walker@f10.n1.z281.fidonet.org (Dumas Walker) wrote:

    Yes, back in the mid-1990s (about 30 years ago), I carried several
    usenet newsgroups. It became increasingly difficult to do so,
    though, as ISPs eventually did away with news servers as a part of
    their services. I still currently carry a few, like this one, via fidonet hubs that still have a gate set up.

    is there still traffic on fidonet?

    Yes, some echoes more than others. COOKING has several messages a
    day. A couple of the political echoes have lots of traffic. Others
    have at least a message or two a day. Several probably need to be
    pruned.


    * SLMR 2.1a * "I'm cold, and there are wolves after me!"-Granpa
    Simpson

    thats great, i watched a documentary on bbs and im glad its still around

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  • From phigan@1:229/2 to All on Friday, April 18, 2025 06:44:25
    From: phigan@bbs.penisys.online

    if phone lines weren't so expensive even to this day it'd be nice to
    supply a bbs that allows people to dial-in. some people who dont have
    the luxury of dedicated internet can still get online with their phone
    line.

    There's a guy that runs the site 2600.network which lists several dialup numbers. The website did say that something was on hold for a bit, but I haven't tried to dial in lately myself. Anyway, when you dial into any
    of the numbers, you can put in a BBS name off of telnetbbsguide.com for
    the username and password, and it will connect you. You can also search telnetbbsguide.com for BBSes with their own dialup numbers. But, with 2600.network, they technically all have dialup access :).

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  • From Ted W.@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, May 31, 2025 01:04:05
    From: usenet@xy0.org


    Fidonet is alive and kicking, there are several "othernets" that use the
    same technology as Fidonet, but are smaller and generally have more
    traffic than Fidonet. FSXnet is a network with a broad range of message
    areas and good traffic these days.

    BBSing needs new blood, we're getting old and want to pass on the
    tech... I've been doing this since the 1980s.

    I've been reading the policy4.txt for Fidonet recently trying to get up to speed on it in hopes of joining the network there. I have no heard of FSXnet before, though. I looked them up and started poking around their
    documentation. It seems a lot more approachable than Fidonet on the surface, but as someone with no experience with Fido, their documentation left me with more questions than answers about how to join. Perhaps someone here can give
    me a hand with more information?

    I have a good grasp on service hosting, it's what I do, but what
    software/tools do you need to set up in order to join as a node on these networks? The FSXnet documentatoin makes brief mention of connecting Binkp,
    BBS software, Telnet and SSH but no mention of tools one could use for Binkp and BBS or what to configure for users connecting over Telnet/SSH (though, I assume a BBS would handle that?).

    Any clarity that can be provided here would be appreciated. As "new blood" here, I would like to help carry the torch forward.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Ted W. on Saturday, May 31, 2025 09:24:50
    (Other people feel free to help this guy out too but I'll tell him what I know!)

    I've been reading the policy4.txt for Fidonet recently trying to get up
    to speed on it in hopes of joining the network there. I have no heard of FSXnet before, though. I looked them up and started poking around their documentation. It seems a lot more approachable than Fidonet on the surface, but as someone with no experience with Fido, their
    documentation left me with more questions than answers about how to
    join. Perhaps someone here can give me a hand with more information?

    Look at the nodelist and try to figure out who runs a Fidonet hub close to you. Is there someone in your state? If so, go with that person. Contact them and tell them that you're running a BBS in the same state and would like to get on the Fidonet nodelist AND that you would like them to provide you with a feed. They should then add you to the nodelist and give you credentials to use for connecting to their hub (to download and upload echomail.)

    If they insist that you follow the policy4 procedures, then that means send them netmail from your BBS to prove that your BBS is capable of handling echomail. It's a pain and the documentation for doing that sucks.

    Let us know where you're at with all that.

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  • From George Musk@1:229/2 to Ted W. on Saturday, May 31, 2025 17:24:28
    From: grgmusk@skiff.com

    On Sat, 31 May 2025 01:04:05 -0000 (UTC), Ted W. wrote:

    I have a good grasp on service hosting, it's what I do, but what software/tools do you need to set up in order to join as a node on these networks? The FSXnet documentatoin makes brief mention of connecting Binkp, BBS software, Telnet and SSH but no mention of tools one could use for Binkp and BBS or what to configure for users connecting over Telnet/SSH (though, I assume a BBS would handle that?).

    You probably can find it in the documentation of your BBS software
    Something like
    https://wiki.synchro.net/howto:fidonet#see_also
    or
    https://nuskooler.github.io/enigma-bbs/messageareas/ftn.html

    Also you can use FTN networks without a BBS, just set up a mailer +
    tosser + editor (smth like https://github.com/golded-plus/golded-plus/ ) + etc.

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