• volcanoes and ufos (1/n)

    From MrPostingRobot@kymhorsell.com@1:229/2 to All on Sunday, February 21, 2021 12:55:42
    XPost: alt.ufo.reports

    There are 3 types of volcano.


    EXECUTIVE SUMMARY:
    - Similar to a prev study, we look at the distribution of UFO sightings
    from the major ~50 volcanoes across the USA.
    - Surprisingly the volcanoes break down into 3 groups. (a) Those have
    have "no effect". (b) Those that attract UFO sightings with a power
    law around r^(-.25). (c) Those that repel UFO sightings with a
    power law around sqrt(r).
    - We've seen the sqrt(r) law before with respect to US AFB. It can be
    interpreted to mean someone is wary of something flying under
    continuous acceleration (transit time proportional to sqrt(r)) like
    a missile. Or another UFO.
    - The power law r^(-.25) is a bit of a puzzle. It doesn't exactly jive
    with some volcanoes being "home bases" for UFO activity. That
    would be r^(-2). It may suggest UFO's have a flying pattern that
    weights longer distances approximately r^1.75. Why that pattern is
    not obvious. But if you have access to machinery that can
    super-cruise all day long you probably don't use much it to cruise
    your own street.



    The folklore would have it UFO's are at least weakly associated with
    volcanoes. Supposedly they have been seen going into and coming out of
    craters of even active volcanoes.

    So let's check this and look at the distribution of UFO sightings jives
    with the location of major volcanoes across the US.

    As usual we'll use the sightings data from NUFORC.

    The volcanoes we'll consider are the ~50 major named US craters listed
    in Wikipedia.

    We'll use a variation of the program we already looked at to examine
    the distribution of UFO's across the US in respect of Air and Army
    bases. We recall from that prev post the way the density drops off
    from what we would interpret as a "threat" to the somewhat stealthy
    operation of an aircraft indicates what kind of threat those aircraft
    consider a base to present. If they fall off proportionally to 1/r it
    seems they are concerned about interception from e.g. aircraft flying
    at constant speed from that base. If they fall off at 1/r^2 then they
    are concerned with routine area patrols. If there is no drop off in
    density then they are either not concerned with the base or perhaps
    are only worried about something that travels at the speed of light --
    i.e. being sighted visually or via radar.

    In the case of military bases we treated all bases the same and just
    wanted that rate of drop-off from any sighting to any base. (But we
    did treat air bases and army bases separately to see which were
    consider the "bigger threat" to Our Friends).

    In the case of volcanoes it seems prudent to treat each crater
    separately. They all present their own unique properties -- whether inactive/active/how active/whether sometimes spewing smoke, lava,
    rocks, etc.

    It seems unlikely we will find anything much but be prepared for a shock.

    Running each volcano 1 by 1 we find only about 1/2 have no
    relationship with UFO density. The rest appear to alter the wide-area distribution of UFO sightings.

    And -- further surprise -- volcanoes spit UFO's into at least 2
    groups. The presence of some volcanoes reduces the density of
    sightings the closer they get to the crater; and some "attract" UFO's
    and increase the density of sightings the closer they get.

    Further surprise -- there seem to be only 2 different "laws"
    involved. About 1/2 the relevant volcanoes seem to show a
    relationship of sqrt(r) with respect to sightings; the rest show a
    relationship of about 1/r^.25.

    We've seen the sqrt(r) relationship before. What originating at a
    point increases around sqrt(r) from that location? At least one thing.
    A continuously-accelerating aircraft or missile (s = 1/2 a t^2 => t = sqrt(2s/a)). In the case of air bases in that prev post we presumed
    some UFO types were flying defensively and are concerned with being
    hit by A2G missiles from US (specifically) air bases.

    In the case of the relevant volcanoes -- what could fly from a volcano
    and continuously accelerate? Rocks? Gases? Lava? None of
    these. Missiles? I don't think the AF has build many anti-aircraft
    missile batteries in craters around the nation.

    We are almost forced to conclude some UFO's are flying defensively
    apparently concerned with interception by other UFO's.

    Has anyone seen UFO's battling? Missiles flying out of volcanoes?

    But let's look at the numerical results. For each volcano we calculate
    the distance to each US sighting since 1950. This procedure is not statistically upset there was a change of methodology at NUFORC around
    2006 (the advent of the web report form that saw reported sightings go
    up 10x "overnight").

    Then we do a log(x)/log(y) regression between distance and number of
    sightings at that distance to end up with a law count = A*distance^r.

    The table:

    Lat Lng Name Power law Sign test R2
    A r on "r"

    DEFENSIVE FLYING
    52.83 -169.95 Cleveland 155.298 * x^0.456656 0.920954 0.04918286
    54.13 -165.99 Akutan 181.925 * x^0.425113 0.920159 0.04881822
    54.77 -163.72 Isanotski 200.608 * x^0.405183 0.919638 0.04858148
    55.08 -162.81 Frosty.Peak 209.083 * x^0.396614 0.919467 0.04850400
    56.88 -158.17 Aniakchak 264.627 * x^0.34649 0.919450 0.04849608
    57.13 -156.99 Chiginagak 281.623 * x^0.333065 0.919470 0.04850532
    58.35 -155.09 Griggs 321.298 * x^0.303567 0.921218 0.04930454
    59.36 -153.43 Augustine 367.288 * x^0.273141 0.923435 0.05034696
    60.03 -153.09 Iliamna 391.274 * x^0.258232 0.925320 0.05125978
    19.69 -155.87 Hualalai 402.01 * x^0.249174 0.904943 0.04252556
    BASES
    43.1 -117.4 Jordan.Craters 2151.26 * x^-0.196994 0.905935 0.04290014
    36.45 -104.09 Capulin 2232.04 * x^-0.234003 0.923204 0.05023691
    33.7 -106 Carrizozo 2285.75 * x^-0.235633 0.929382 0.05331452
    43.1 -118.7 Diamond.Craters 2327.69 * x^-0.218853 0.926916 0.05205218
    44.28 -121.83 Belknap 2467.22 * x^-0.231597 0.957783 0.07259529
    44.67 -121.8 Jefferson 2469.04 * x^-0.231915 0.960114 0.07475559
    43.5 -120.9 Devils.Garden 2521.51 * x^-0.239189 0.950085 0.06625591
    43.37 -121.07 Fort.Rock 2527.03 * x^-0.239513 0.949933 0.06614157
    42.94 -122.11 Crater.Lake 2590.54 * x^-0.244646 0.949734 0.06599181
    45.4 -121.7 Hood 2599.5 * x^-0.246812 0.965021 0.07976403
    46.21 -121.49 Adams 2708.55 * x^-0.258871 0.970238 0.08595201
    48.11 -121.11 Glacier.Peak 2873.43 * x^-0.274898 0.972023 0.08832786
    48.79 -121.82 Baker 3007.83 * x^-0.285426 0.968948 0.08432451


    While the R2 values show the relationships are very noise -- typically
    only explaining 5-10% of the UFO counts by their distance from the
    relevant crater -- they are quite certain. The T-test on the sign of
    "r" (which is the \beta in the underlying OLS) typically shows 95%
    certainty. There is only around 5% chance in each case the 1000s of
    sightings line up with the distance law from the relevant crater just
    by luck. Of course since we're listing ~25 such laws in the table
    above it is likely 1 or 2 *are* just luck because there's that 5%
    chance we might be wrong. But that shows us that the vast majority of
    the rate formulas above are about right.

    So it seems volcanoes across the US fall into 3 categories. Those that
    are ignored by UFOs. Those that associate with UFO density falling
    off closer to the volcano. Those that associate with UFO density
    increasing closer to the volcano.

    The approx sqrt(r) cases seem to be explained by defensive flying.
    Some UFO's are wary of being intercepted or "hit" maybe by something
    flying under continuous power and acceleration from that location.

    This would not be the first time we've seen a hint of different UFO
    "camps". The influence of some UFO types on various measurable
    mundane phenomena sometimes shows up a divide. As our binary friend
    Ugh would put it -- "some UFO good; some UFO bad; Ugh!".

    The approx 1/r^.25 are a bit of a mystery. As r decreases the
    sighting count is increasing. It's as if certain volcanoes are "home".
    But the power law is wrong. If UFO's were coming out of volcanoes
    you'd expect the sighting density to fall of at 1/r^2 not 1/r^(1/4).
    Unless each UFO tended to regularly fly a distance r about r^1.75
    times. For some reason.

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  • From R Kym Horsell@1:229/2 to MrPostingRobot@kymhorsell.com on Sunday, February 21, 2021 13:27:46
    XPost: alt.ufo.reports
    From: kym@kymhorsell.com

    In alt.ufo.reports MrPostingRobot@kymhorsell.com wrote:
    There are 3 types of volcano.
    EXECUTIVE SUMMARY:
    - Similar to a prev study, we look at the distribution of UFO sightings
    from the major ~50 volcanoes across the USA.
    - Surprisingly the volcanoes break down into 3 groups. (a) Those have
    have "no effect". (b) Those that attract UFO sightings with a power
    law around r^(-.25). (c) Those that repel UFO sightings with a
    power law around sqrt(r).
    - We've seen the sqrt(r) law before with respect to US AFB. It can be
    interpreted to mean someone is wary of something flying under
    continuous acceleration (transit time proportional to sqrt(r)) like
    a missile. Or another UFO.
    - The power law r^(-.25) is a bit of a puzzle. It doesn't exactly jive
    with some volcanoes being "home bases" for UFO activity. That
    would be r^(-2). It may suggest UFO's have a flying pattern that
    weights longer distances approximately r^1.75. Why that pattern is
    not obvious. But if you have access to machinery that can
    super-cruise all day long you probably don't use much it to cruise
    your own street.
    ...

    While I'm here I'll add this addendum.

    I had an unusual visit today. Not only does it take some gumption to
    drive 50 mi into Australia's "virus central" region to visit,
    but the visitor was a mathematician and also not totally dismissive
    of UFO's, esp in light of recent publications in TIME which he seems
    to read. :)

    We were talking about this mathematical model that seems to suggest
    some volcanoes seem to "repel" UFO sightings.

    He immed suspected the modeling s/w had just latched onto
    one group of volcanoes, that happen to mostly be off the main AK coast,
    and assigned them a special property and the idea they were
    different from the US48 volcanoes that seemed to have a different
    "law of attraction".

    So I had to cook up something fast. And the first thing worked.
    Running the model backwards you can ask according to the UFO sightings
    data where would volcanoes that seem to repel sightings be?
    The sightings data scattered over the US landscape is like charges creating
    an electric field, where in the field are the repellant bits?

    So running the model backwards we plotted out where the repellant
    volcanoes would most likely be.

    They all turned out to be around Alaska.

    So it's not that the AI simply got distracted by the latitude
    of some volcanoes and assigned them a special property by mistake,
    the whole region up there has this property. Plus a couple of other odd
    cases in Oregon and Hawaii.


    The plot is here <kymhorsell.com/UFO/tests.gif>.
    The green crosses are the locations that "should" have a UFO-repellant
    volcano according to how the total distribution of UFO sightings
    lays, and the blue cirles are where they are actually located.

    Reasonable match.

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