• Reviews: Blade Runner 2049

    From Your Name@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, September 30, 2017 09:54:41
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    From: YourName@YourISP.com

    The "Blade Runner 2049" reviews are rolling in ...


    Variety.com:
    'Blade Runner 2049' Reviews: What the Critics Are Saying <http://variety.com/2017/film/news/blade-runner-2049-reviews-roundup-ryan-gosling-1202576407/>



    Wired.com:
    Review: Just wait 'til you get your eyes on Blade Runner 2049 <https://www.wired.com/story/blade-runner-2049-review>

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  • From Ted Nolan @1:229/2 to taustinca@gmail.com on Sunday, October 08, 2017 05:11:57
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    From: ted@loft.tnolan.com

    In article <XnsA807E140EDF00taustingmail@69.16.179.42>,
    Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
    Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com> wrote in
    news:orc54g$cq6$1@dont-email.me:



    On 9/29/2017 4:54 PM, Your Name wrote:

    The "Blade Runner 2049" reviews are rolling in ...

    People aren't watching the movie because they aren't smart
    enough:

    http://www.showbiz411.com/2017/10/07/beautiful-classic-rave-revie
    wed-blade-runner-2049-may-be-too-good-for-mainstream-audience

    The reviews for this film are making it sound a whole lot like
    the original film...boring and 'too smart' for the audience to
    follow.

    IIRC, the original didn't actually do especially well in the
    theaters. It because the cult classic later, afterh te video release.

    (And Rotten Tomatores audience reviews give it 85%, so the reviewer
    is apparently talking out of his ass anyway.)


    One analysis suggests it is just too long: 3 hours with trailers.

    I hope I get to see it, but it'll have to come behind Kingsman 2.
    --
    ------
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    What's not in Columbia anymore..

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  • From Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy@1:229/2 to ted@loft.tnolan.com on Saturday, October 07, 2017 22:53:08
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    From: taustinca@gmail.com

    ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) wrote in news:f3tqctFf34kU1@mid.individual.net:

    In article <XnsA807E140EDF00taustingmail@69.16.179.42>,
    Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
    Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com> wrote in
    news:orc54g$cq6$1@dont-email.me:



    On 9/29/2017 4:54 PM, Your Name wrote:

    The "Blade Runner 2049" reviews are rolling in ...

    People aren't watching the movie because they aren't smart
    enough:

    http://www.showbiz411.com/2017/10/07/beautiful-classic-rave-rev
    ie
    wed-blade-runner-2049-may-be-too-good-for-mainstream-audience

    The reviews for this film are making it sound a whole lot like
    the original film...boring and 'too smart' for the audience to
    follow.

    IIRC, the original didn't actually do especially well in the
    theaters. It because the cult classic later, afterh te video
    release.

    (And Rotten Tomatores audience reviews give it 85%, so the
    reviewer is apparently talking out of his ass anyway.)


    One analysis suggests it is just too long: 3 hours with
    trailers.

    That does seem brutal. I doubt I'll bother. The first one was OK
    (for me), but I have never had much use for "decades later reboots/sequals/prequels/whatever-desparate-search-for-more-money"
    stuff. And that was before I knew it was that long.

    I hope I get to see it, but it'll have to come behind Kingsman
    2.

    If you liked the first Kingsman movie, you'll like the second one.
    It doesn't really suffer from the usual superhero[1] franchise
    sequence.[2] A good deal of the charm of the first one (other than
    the tighest action sequence choreography going these days, often
    filmed in a single take) was the ridiculous over-the-top action
    (and toys), and they embraced that and doubled down. If you've seen
    the previews, you know Harry is back, despite being shot in the eye
    at the end of the last movie, and you know that has to have a
    ridiculous explanation. And it does. And it has (really not a
    spoiler - it literally could not possibly *not* happen this way,
    once you see the scene where the character is intorduced, you'll
    know what I mean, but SPOILER)









































    Elton John as an ass kicking action hero. Wearing rainbow feathers
    and platform shoes. I laughed so hard it was actually hard to
    breath.


    [1]Make no mistake, these are not spy movies, they are superhero
    movies, same as James Bond.

    [2]"Really good" followed by "good, but not as good" followed by
    "crap" followed by "kill it with fire before it lays eggs" followed
    by a complete reboot that may or may not suck.

    --
    Terry Austin

    Vacation photos from Iceland:
    https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

    "Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

    Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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  • From Obveeus@1:229/2 to Your Name on Saturday, October 07, 2017 23:13:21
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    From: Obveeus@aol.com

    On 9/29/2017 4:54 PM, Your Name wrote:

    The "Blade Runner 2049" reviews are rolling in ...

    People aren't watching the movie because they aren't smart enough:

    http://www.showbiz411.com/2017/10/07/beautiful-classic-rave-reviewed-blade-runner-2049-may-be-too-good-for-mainstream-audience

    The reviews for this film are making it sound a whole lot like the
    original film...boring and 'too smart' for the audience to follow.

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  • From Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy@1:229/2 to Obveeus on Saturday, October 07, 2017 22:08:35
    XPost: rec.arts.movies.current-films, rec.arts.sf.movies
    From: taustinca@gmail.com

    Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com> wrote in
    news:orc54g$cq6$1@dont-email.me:



    On 9/29/2017 4:54 PM, Your Name wrote:

    The "Blade Runner 2049" reviews are rolling in ...

    People aren't watching the movie because they aren't smart
    enough:

    http://www.showbiz411.com/2017/10/07/beautiful-classic-rave-revie wed-blade-runner-2049-may-be-too-good-for-mainstream-audience

    The reviews for this film are making it sound a whole lot like
    the original film...boring and 'too smart' for the audience to
    follow.

    IIRC, the original didn't actually do especially well in the
    theaters. It because the cult classic later, afterh te video release.

    (And Rotten Tomatores audience reviews give it 85%, so the reviewer
    is apparently talking out of his ass anyway.)

    --
    Terry Austin

    Vacation photos from Iceland:
    https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

    "Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

    Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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  • From Lewis@1:229/2 to Bice on Tuesday, October 10, 2017 00:37:08
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    From: g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies

    In message <59dbee33.2225145375@localhost> Bice <eichler2@comcastsucks.net> wrote:
    Someone mentioned in this thread that the timeline doesn't really fit,
    that we should have flying cars and space colonies by now. Remember
    that the first one was based on a book written in the 1960s, and for
    the new movie they were stuck using the same timeline if they wanted
    to have Harrison Ford in it.

    In Blade Runner 2049 the Soviet Union still exists and Atari is a real
    company. Oh, and there's also a PanAm airline.

    The typical mouth-breather will be confused by this.

    --
    'And trust no-- Trust practically no-one. All right? Except trustworthy people.'

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  • From J. Clarke@1:229/2 to g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies on Monday, October 09, 2017 21:02:08
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    From: jclarke.873638@gmail.com

    On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 00:37:08 -0000 (UTC), Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

    In message <59dbee33.2225145375@localhost> Bice <eichler2@comcastsucks.net> wrote:
    Someone mentioned in this thread that the timeline doesn't really fit,
    that we should have flying cars and space colonies by now. Remember
    that the first one was based on a book written in the 1960s, and for
    the new movie they were stuck using the same timeline if they wanted
    to have Harrison Ford in it.

    In Blade Runner 2049 the Soviet Union still exists and Atari is a real >company. Oh, and there's also a PanAm airline.

    The typical mouth-breather will be confused by this.

    I missed all of that. However there was so much advertising depicted
    that I could easily have been looking elsewhere on the screen
    (probably at some portion of the female anatomy, quite a lot of which
    was depicted in a manner that left little to the imagination).
    Interesting that neither Amazon nor Apple sprung for product
    placement--Joi could as easily have been Siri or Alexa (and I now have
    a horrible crush on Ana de Armas). But I did notice that K's car was
    a Peugeot.

    One thing that I did wonder about though was all the solar farms
    depicted at the beginning--why would anyone build that quantity of
    solar farms in that climate?

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  • From Bice@1:229/2 to Obveeus on Monday, October 09, 2017 21:54:00
    XPost: rec.arts.movies.current-films, rec.arts.sf.movies
    From: eichler2@comcastsucks.net

    On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 23:13:21 -0400, Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com> wrote:



    On 9/29/2017 4:54 PM, Your Name wrote:

    The "Blade Runner 2049" reviews are rolling in ...

    People aren't watching the movie because they aren't smart enough:

    http://www.showbiz411.com/2017/10/07/beautiful-classic-rave-reviewed-blade-runner-2049-may-be-too-good-for-mainstream-audience

    The reviews for this film are making it sound a whole lot like the
    original film...boring and 'too smart' for the audience to follow.


    The wife and I went to see it over the weekend. I wouldn't say it's
    "too smart" to follow, but it's probably far beyond the average modern
    viewer's attention span. About an hour of plot stretched out into a 2
    hour 45 minute movie. Nearly every scene seems like it's playing out
    in slow motion.

    Looks amazing though. They did a great job duplicating the look and
    feel of the original. I liked it, I just wish it would have gotten to
    its point a lot faster.

    I had to laugh because months ago someone on one of the newsgroups I
    read proposed a jokingly rediculous plot for a Blade Runner
    sequel...and it turns out he pretty much fully predicted this movie.

    Someone mentioned in this thread that the timeline doesn't really fit,
    that we should have flying cars and space colonies by now. Remember
    that the first one was based on a book written in the 1960s, and for
    the new movie they were stuck using the same timeline if they wanted
    to have Harrison Ford in it.

    -- Bob

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  • From Lewis@1:229/2 to Clarke on Tuesday, October 10, 2017 02:26:27
    XPost: rec.arts.movies.current-films, rec.arts.sf.movies
    From: g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies

    In message <d26otc1fit52shbnk44b129fjl2nbdom1g@4ax.com> J Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 00:37:08 -0000 (UTC), Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

    In message <59dbee33.2225145375@localhost> Bice <eichler2@comcastsucks.net> wrote:
    Someone mentioned in this thread that the timeline doesn't really fit,
    that we should have flying cars and space colonies by now. Remember
    that the first one was based on a book written in the 1960s, and for
    the new movie they were stuck using the same timeline if they wanted
    to have Harrison Ford in it.

    In Blade Runner 2049 the Soviet Union still exists and Atari is a real >>company. Oh, and there's also a PanAm airline.

    The typical mouth-breather will be confused by this.

    I missed all of that. However there was so much advertising depicted
    that I could easily have been looking elsewhere on the screen
    (probably at some portion of the female anatomy, quite a lot of which
    was depicted in a manner that left little to the imagination).
    Interesting that neither Amazon nor Apple sprung for product
    placement--Joi could as easily have been Siri or Alexa (and I now have
    a horrible crush on Ana de Armas). But I did notice that K's car was
    a Peugeot.

    One thing that I did wonder about though was all the solar farms
    depicted at the beginning--why would anyone build that quantity of
    solar farms in that climate?

    You need a lot of solar to make up for the poor conditions.

    --
    'I really should talk to him, sir. He's had a near-death experience!'
    'We all do. It's called living.'

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  • From Lewis@1:229/2 to Bice on Wednesday, October 11, 2017 01:01:29
    XPost: rec.arts.movies.current-films, rec.arts.sf.movies
    From: g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies

    In message <59dd3790.2309462218@localhost> Bice <eichler2@comcastsucks.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 00:37:08 -0000 (UTC), Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

    In message <59dbee33.2225145375@localhost> Bice <eichler2@comcastsucks.net> wrote:
    Someone mentioned in this thread that the timeline doesn't really fit,
    that we should have flying cars and space colonies by now. Remember
    that the first one was based on a book written in the 1960s, and for
    the new movie they were stuck using the same timeline if they wanted
    to have Harrison Ford in it.

    In Blade Runner 2049 the Soviet Union still exists and Atari is a real >>company. Oh, and there's also a PanAm airline.

    Atari's still around.

    Please note what I said.

    Atari is *not* still around. It went bankrupt and its various assets
    (mostly IP for home computer games) were sold off to Hasbro, which was
    then bought by Infogrames. The current thing using the Atari name has
    nothing to do with the real company, and is just a badge that is
    sometimes slapped on a game.

    --
    Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax an
    get used to the idea.

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  • From Bice@1:229/2 to g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies on Tuesday, October 10, 2017 21:13:06
    XPost: rec.arts.movies.current-films, rec.arts.sf.movies
    From: eichler2@comcastsucks.net

    On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 00:37:08 -0000 (UTC), Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

    In message <59dbee33.2225145375@localhost> Bice <eichler2@comcastsucks.net> wrote:
    Someone mentioned in this thread that the timeline doesn't really fit,
    that we should have flying cars and space colonies by now. Remember
    that the first one was based on a book written in the 1960s, and for
    the new movie they were stuck using the same timeline if they wanted
    to have Harrison Ford in it.

    In Blade Runner 2049 the Soviet Union still exists and Atari is a real >company. Oh, and there's also a PanAm airline.


    Atari's still around. According to Wikipedia, they're currently
    working on a new home video game console called the Ataribox that will
    be Linux-based:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari#Infogrames.2FAtari_SA_.282001.E2.80.93present.29

    -- Bob

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  • From Bice@1:229/2 to g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies on Wednesday, October 11, 2017 20:45:46
    XPost: rec.arts.movies.current-films, rec.arts.sf.movies
    From: eichler2@comcastsucks.net

    On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 01:01:29 -0000 (UTC), Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

    In message <59dd3790.2309462218@localhost> Bice <eichler2@comcastsucks.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 00:37:08 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
    <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

    In message <59dbee33.2225145375@localhost> Bice <eichler2@comcastsucks.net> wrote:
    Someone mentioned in this thread that the timeline doesn't really fit, >>>> that we should have flying cars and space colonies by now. Remember
    that the first one was based on a book written in the 1960s, and for
    the new movie they were stuck using the same timeline if they wanted
    to have Harrison Ford in it.

    In Blade Runner 2049 the Soviet Union still exists and Atari is a real >>>company. Oh, and there's also a PanAm airline.

    Atari's still around.

    Please note what I said.

    Atari is *not* still around.

    OK, the Atari *name* is still around, if you want to be picky about
    it. So it's not impossible that there could be big neon Atari signs
    in 2049.

    -- Bob

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  • From Lewis@1:229/2 to Bice on Friday, October 13, 2017 01:12:00
    XPost: rec.arts.movies.current-films, rec.arts.sf.movies
    From: g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies

    In message <59de829d.48583343@localhost> Bice <eichler2@comcastsucks.net> wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 01:01:29 -0000 (UTC), Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

    In message <59dd3790.2309462218@localhost> Bice <eichler2@comcastsucks.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 00:37:08 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
    <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

    In message <59dbee33.2225145375@localhost> Bice <eichler2@comcastsucks.net>
    wrote:
    Someone mentioned in this thread that the timeline doesn't really fit, >>>>> that we should have flying cars and space colonies by now. Remember >>>>> that the first one was based on a book written in the 1960s, and for >>>>> the new movie they were stuck using the same timeline if they wanted >>>>> to have Harrison Ford in it.

    In Blade Runner 2049 the Soviet Union still exists and Atari is a real >>>>company. Oh, and there's also a PanAm airline.

    Atari's still around.

    Please note what I said.

    Atari is *not* still around.

    OK, the Atari *name* is still around, if you want to be picky about
    it. So it's not impossible that there could be big neon Atari signs
    in 2049.

    As I said originally "In Blade Runner 2049 the Soviet Union still exists
    and Atari is a real company."

    That was the statement that you objected to

    --
    A: You're wrong
    Q: I've never found that to be true
    A: Because it make following messages more difficult
    Q: Why is top-posting evil?

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  • From hector@1:229/2 to Bice on Monday, October 16, 2017 22:57:54
    XPost: rec.arts.movies.current-films, rec.arts.sf.movies
    From: bobble@there.com

    On 10/10/2017 8:54 AM, Bice wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 23:13:21 -0400, Obveeus <Obveeus@aol.com> wrote:



    On 9/29/2017 4:54 PM, Your Name wrote:

    The "Blade Runner 2049" reviews are rolling in ...

    People aren't watching the movie because they aren't smart enough:

    http://www.showbiz411.com/2017/10/07/beautiful-classic-rave-reviewed-blade-runner-2049-may-be-too-good-for-mainstream-audience

    The reviews for this film are making it sound a whole lot like the
    original film...boring and 'too smart' for the audience to follow.


    The wife and I went to see it over the weekend. I wouldn't say it's
    "too smart" to follow, but it's probably far beyond the average modern viewer's attention span. About an hour of plot stretched out into a 2
    hour 45 minute movie. Nearly every scene seems like it's playing out
    in slow motion.

    Looks amazing though. They did a great job duplicating the look and
    feel of the original. I liked it, I just wish it would have gotten to
    its point a lot faster.

    I had to laugh because months ago someone on one of the newsgroups I
    read proposed a jokingly rediculous plot for a Blade Runner
    sequel...and it turns out he pretty much fully predicted this movie.

    Someone mentioned in this thread that the timeline doesn't really fit,
    that we should have flying cars and space colonies by now.

    Not to mentioned new JD Salinger books.

    Remember
    that the first one was based on a book written in the 1960s, and for
    the new movie they were stuck using the same timeline if they wanted
    to have Harrison Ford in it.

    -- Bob


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  • From Bice@1:229/2 to g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies on Monday, October 16, 2017 11:18:46
    XPost: rec.arts.movies.current-films, rec.arts.sf.movies
    From: eichler2@comcastsucks.net

    On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 01:12:00 -0000 (UTC), Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

    In message <59de829d.48583343@localhost> Bice <eichler2@comcastsucks.net> wrote:

    OK, the Atari *name* is still around, if you want to be picky about
    it. So it's not impossible that there could be big neon Atari signs
    in 2049.

    As I said originally "In Blade Runner 2049 the Soviet Union still exists
    and Atari is a real company."

    That was the statement that you objected to

    I guess I misinterpreted your original statement to mean "it's
    rediculous that they'd still have an Atari sign in the new Blade
    Runner movie".

    I wasn't objecting to anything really, just pointing out out that it
    wouldn't even have to be an alternate reality for the Atari name to
    still exist in 2049.

    -- Bob

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