• Donald Trump is Destroying America On His Way Out

    From slider@1:229/2 to All on Sunday, November 29, 2020 11:08:07
    From: slider@anashram.com

    Nero fiddled while Rome burned. Caligula, reclining and being fed grapes, installed his horse in the Senate. Donald Trump is golfing while America collapses.

    Like so many tyrants before him — would-be and true — Trump, in the throes of inevitable defeat, has become a mad king. He’s lost the plot. He’s lashing out in impotent rage, when he’s not sulking in infantile
    resentment. All that while a desperate America thrashes in the throes of
    crisis after crisis. He’s every bit the equivalent of a modern day
    Caligula or Nero. And like so many mad kings before him, the damage he’s doing as he loses power may be even greater than the damage he did when he
    had it.

    https://eand.co/donald-trump-is-destroying-america-on-his-way-out-258a2b54d053

    That’s because that is what mad kings tend to want to do: inflict as much damage as they can, on their way out. On the societies they think failed
    them, on the nations which have rejected them, on the people they have
    always resented and hated and had contempt for. Never do you the truth
    of a person like a tyrant during the end of his time in power. It’s like a bomb going off, over and over again usually — and that’s what America
    faces now, as Trump loses his hold on power, but abuses whatever he has
    left to do as much damage to American, and Americans, as he possibly can.

    Let’s start with Covid. Maybe you think I’m depressing? Maybe you think I overstate things. Good, don’t take it from me. Take it from the Atlantic, that establishment bastion of WASPy understatement. According to them, Trump’s response to Covid amounts to “negligent homicide.” It’s not an unfair description. Americans don’t seem to grasp, really, just how devastating Covid has been. Maybe that’s because they’re busy, wearily living through the nightmare.

    Covid in America is so bad that 9 of the world’s top 10 hotspots are all American states. 8 of them are red states. Because so many red states
    became hotspots, America never defeated Covid. Instead, it’s followed a
    kind of weird, ominous stair-step pattern. The steps aren’t waves, really
    — they never crest and fall. They’re more like three tsunamis, each piled atop the next.

    Hence, a quarter of a million Americans are dead — and counting.

    And things are about to, probably, get much, much worse. Why? Because Americans, who aren’t taking Covid seriously enough — maybe not you, but
    as a society — are travelling en masse, as they usually, do, for Thanksgiving, the holidays, Christmas.

    Covid in America got this bad essentially because of three things. One,
    red states had super-spreader events. Two, almost no state had a proper, Asian-style, lockdown. And three, the combination of those led to Covid spreading like wildfire.

    Now imagine Thanksgiving. Millions of people travelling. Crammed into
    cars, buses, airplanes. Stuck in airports and train stations. Overheated, unventilated places. Boom. There’s never been a more perfect way for a pandemic to spread.

    Thanksgiving in America is going to be something beyond a super-spreader
    event. A hyper-spreader event will be more like it.

    And that is squarely due to Donald Trump. He minimized, he denied, he
    lied, and we now know that he knew full well that it was a lethal disease
    all along, as Bob Woodward has reported. So America, to this day, is
    probably the only nation in the world that doesn’t have a national Covid strategy. But you can’t beat the pandemic without one. Americans — enough of them, at least — think of freedom as free-dumb: the right to carry a
    gun and spread a deadly disease.

    Whose fault is that? On one level, history’s. On another level, the President’s. Leadership is educating people when they are being malicious, ignorant, and careless. But Trump, being the epitome of all that, only encouraged his army of American Idiots not to take Covid seriously. Hence,
    the bizarre, jaw-dropping phenomenon of Covid patients on their ICU
    death-beds lashing in rage out at nurses because they still think Covid doesn’t exist.

    Contrast that with, say, Jacinda Ardern — who called upon “team New Zealand” to unite and not just fight the viurs, but wipe it out. Can you imagine Trump calling on Americans as a team? To do anything remotely
    positive, like wiping out a deadly virus?

    Americans don’t know — and don’t seem to care nearly enough, even the good
    and intelligent ones — about a simple fact of reality. With good
    leadership, America should have somewhere between hundreds and low, low thousands of deaths — that’s what nations like Singapore and New Zealand and South Korea had, per capita. Trump’s recklessness means 98% of 250,000 deaths were needless. Is that, like the Atlantic says, negligent homicide?
    If it isn’t, then what is?

    After hyper-spreader Thanskgiving, sadly, that number is going to explode. Trump is going to do as much damage as he possibly can. He’s a moron, but he’s not a dummy: he knows, remember, Covid is deadly. And there he is golfing, while two thousand people a day die. That’s not just some kind of tantrum or laziness or self-indulgence. It’s more like a deliberate act of surreal and horrific violence by a head of state.

    If only Americans would see it as such.

    Then let’s come to the transfer of power. The pundits say that Trump’s
    coup isn’t succeeding, but they’re wrong. A coup can succeed in three
    ways, absolutely, mostly, or partially. Absolutely means that power is transferred to the tyrant — Trump’s failed on this score, true. But that’s
    the lowest possible bar.

    “Mostly” means that a coup corrodes democracy enough to seriously delegitimise and weaken it. Almost 70% of Republicans believe that the
    election was stolen — from them. How do you square that with a democracy? Trump has been spreading disinformation and misinformation furiously,
    lying at light speed, to accomplish just this goal — if he can’t hang on
    to power, then at least he can corrode democracy enough to leave it a
    smoking wreck.

    Think of the post-Trump future. How do you govern a society where 70% of
    the other side believes the election was stolen from them — and that’s
    just the beginning? When they won’t take the Covid vaccine, so the nation will never have immunity? When they’ve stopped believing in science,
    because praying the gay away will save them? When they actively support
    racial supremacy and think of minorities as hated subhumans? When they
    turn a blind eye to mass death at the scale of a nuclear bomb, which is
    what 250,000 dead are?

    How do you govern a nation like that — a place that’s been turned into a Land of Idiots? The short answer: not very well, and maybe not at all.
    That’s the point. Trump will happily take this consolation prize of the
    coup mostly succeeding. It’s pretty good, from his point of view — which
    is the abuser’s. Why do abusers beat their significant others — hardest when they finally try to leave — to the point that that’s when they face the greatest risk of the most harm? Because the logic is “if I can’t have you, then nobody will.”

    Abusers are willing to destroy what they pretend to love, so that he or
    she is forever their possession. So that their capacities for
    self-governance and agency and self-determination are ruined, forever, as
    much as possible. Sound familiar? It should. That’s exactly — exactly — what Trump’s doing to American democracy on his way out. He is trying to abuse it, and I don’t mean that metaphorically. He seems to be doing real violence, with negligence on Covid. He’s brainwashing his Army of Idiots
    with a cannonade of lies every day — so that they never believe in
    themselves as citizens of a democracy again. If I can’t have you, America, nobody will, he’s saying. And he might just be succeeding.

    Now let me come to what a coup “partially” succeeding means. There’s a certain government official whom by now you might have heard of — the head
    of the GSA — who’s single-handedly holding up the transfer of power.

    So Joe Biden has had to crowdfund it.

    Think about how absurd that is — the President-Elect of the United States
    of America has to crowdfund money for transferring power, hiring people, vetting them, planning, even just moving expenses — because his
    predecessor won’t turn the funds over to him. Comical? Ludicrous? Surreal? All those and more. It’s like if Schitt’s Creek went to Washington DC.

    Trump’s pettiness knows no bounds because he knows that whatever level his coup succeeds on is still a success. If he can withhold funds from Biden,
    and thwart the transfer of power, he can eke out the illusion that Biden
    stole the election for a while longer. He can keep his Army of Idiots believers. He can keep the charade going, and that is what tyranny is,
    always a charade — because a handful of people can only control many, many more than them through the illusion of power.

    Meanwhile, the GOP is mostly going along with all this. It’s true in some limited way that GOP officials have resisted Trump’s electoral college tampering — so far. There is still plenty of time to go. And the media is giving them credit for winning the election — which is effectively giving
    old white dudes credit for doing something minorities did. So the wool is pulled over even the good Americans’ eyes. They don’t fully understand
    just how much damage Trump is doing to democracy on his way out.

    How much damage is that? Trump has normalised burning democracy down, in
    an attempt to retain power. Think of the lunacy of the last few months.
    Trump declaring victory on election night. The sophisticated coup which
    went into action on election day. The endless lies, the refusal to
    concede, the constant inversions and suspensions of reality. The electoral college tampering, the judicial challenges, the intimidation, the calls to
    put “militias” on “stand by.” All that’s now probably what the GOP’s going
    to do, all over again, from now to eternity. It’s not a party that’s interested in democracy anymore — and what Trump has done on his way out
    is to solidify that into a governing approach. That’s not my opinion, by
    the way — the world’s leading scholars of authoritarian collapse are the ones who say the GOP’s now a party that’s more against democracy than for it.

    So how is America to be governed, when Trump has legitimised the GOP being
    the anti-democracy party, not just the opposition of The Democrats? When
    he’s made it perfectly acceptable, at least within the GOP, to do
    everything from tampering with electoral college, to lying a thousand
    times a day, to declaring victory on election night, to refusing to
    concede and accept the President-Elect? How is America to be governed when
    the GOP and the Americans behind it, which is still about half the
    country, have had authoritarianism legitimised by Trump, right down to
    seizing power by whatever means are available?

    Trump’s coup has been very, very successful on all these levels. It hasn’t been absolutely successful — as in another Trump term, despite the wishes
    of American democracy. But it has been successful in a darker way, perhaps
    a more dangerous one still in the long run. It’s corroded the norms,
    rules, codes that govern American democracy, especially in its most
    crucial moments, like the transfer of power. It’s hardened the Army of
    Idiots in Red States who want to live in something like a theocratic authoritarian supremacist apartheid state, not a democracy, like 1980s
    South Africa by way of 2000s Iran. It’s shattered whatever tiny remnant
    the GOP had left as a party of democracy, and made it a fully
    authoritarian party.

    All that’s a satisfying enough consolation prize for Trump for a good
    reason. It sets up next time. Maybe Trump runs again — or maybe one of the little Trumps do. It doesn’t matter. What does matter is that Trump has
    left American democracy a wounded animal. A desperate and wretched thing, bleeding from the limbs, in shock. And a wounded animal is all that much
    easier to kill, the next time around.

    If you don’t understand that, think about this. The entire rest of the
    world — all of it — is utterly spellbound, aghast, shocked, bewildered, staggered. That Americans are now people who seem to shrug and accept mass death. Whom authoritarians can inflict mass death on, and get away with
    it. That puts them among history’s most broken, defeated, weakest nations. 250,000 Americans have died. Another tsunami is to be piled atop that. Trump’s golfing. I don’t think the world is wrong.

    A wounded animal is easier to kill. Remember that. Trump knows it. That’s what he — and his movement — are thinking. Even as the pundits say that
    the coup is failing. Sometimes, you lose a battle — but inflict enough
    damage to win the war.

    Mad kings do the most damage on the way out, too, for just that reason,
    just like abusers. Better to leave a nation a weakened, ruined thing, that nobody else can have — if you can’t hold onto it anymore yourself.

    ### - good article! and is very accurate!

    although imho the world will be indeed lucky for it to all just end there?

    cue then say a war with iran to turn everyone's head yet again with who
    knows what consequences to follow? having now threatened to retaliate over
    the assassination of their leading nuclear physicist iran can now be
    blamed for just about 'anything' that happens?? after which the cry will
    ring out: look what they've done! look what they've done! and thus iran
    will become a smoldering heap? the problems at home swept completely aside
    and forgotten as now the whole world is unceremoniously dragged into it in
    a dazes state!?

    methinks america will come to rue the day they put him in office to just,
    erm, repair the economy?

    i mean, it's really quite astounding??

    coz oh boy are we all screwed now!

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  • From chris rodgers@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, December 01, 2020 16:30:27
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMY5xe36cfE

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  • From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to allreadydun@gmail.com on Wednesday, December 02, 2020 11:45:47
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 16:30:27 -0800 (PST), chris rodgers
    <allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMY5xe36cfE

    Good to see you're still kicking. You weren't one of the minority in
    Cali who voted for this tyrant were you?

    I hope the sphagetti minded fella who offloaded on Slider before he
    went away comes back. He loves Trump like a bro. I love trolling and
    needling especially when it's so richly deserved *and* it's based on
    fact :)

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  • From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, December 02, 2020 11:41:27
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 11:08:07 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
    wrote:

    Nero fiddled while Rome burned. Caligula, reclining and being fed grapes, >installed his horse in the Senate. Donald Trump is golfing while America >collapses.

    Like so many tyrants before him — would-be and true — Trump, in the throes >of inevitable defeat, has become a mad king. He’s lost the plot. He’s >lashing out in impotent rage, when he’s not sulking in infantile >resentment. All that while a desperate America thrashes in the throes of >crisis after crisis. He’s every bit the equivalent of a modern day
    Caligula or Nero. And like so many mad kings before him, the damage he’s >doing as he loses power may be even greater than the damage he did when he >had it.

    https://eand.co/donald-trump-is-destroying-america-on-his-way-out-258a2b54d053

    That’s because that is what mad kings tend to want to do: inflict as much >damage as they can, on their way out. On the societies they think failed >them, on the nations which have rejected them, on the people they have
    always resented and hated and had contempt for. Never do you the truth
    of a person like a tyrant during the end of his time in power. It’s like a >bomb going off, over and over again usually — and that’s what America >faces now, as Trump loses his hold on power, but abuses whatever he has
    left to do as much damage to American, and Americans, as he possibly can.

    Let’s start with Covid. Maybe you think I’m depressing? Maybe you think I >overstate things. Good, don’t take it from me. Take it from the Atlantic, >that establishment bastion of WASPy understatement. According to them, >Trump’s response to Covid amounts to “negligent homicide.” It’s not an >unfair description. Americans don’t seem to grasp, really, just how >devastating Covid has been. Maybe that’s because they’re busy, wearily >living through the nightmare.

    Covid in America is so bad that 9 of the world’s top 10 hotspots are all >American states. 8 of them are red states. Because so many red states
    became hotspots, America never defeated Covid. Instead, it’s followed a >kind of weird, ominous stair-step pattern. The steps aren’t waves, really >— they never crest and fall. They’re more like three tsunamis, each piled >atop the next.

    Hence, a quarter of a million Americans are dead — and counting.

    And things are about to, probably, get much, much worse. Why? Because >Americans, who aren’t taking Covid seriously enough — maybe not you, but >as a society — are travelling en masse, as they usually, do, for >Thanksgiving, the holidays, Christmas.

    Covid in America got this bad essentially because of three things. One,
    red states had super-spreader events. Two, almost no state had a proper, >Asian-style, lockdown. And three, the combination of those led to Covid >spreading like wildfire.

    Now imagine Thanksgiving. Millions of people travelling. Crammed into
    cars, buses, airplanes. Stuck in airports and train stations. Overheated, >unventilated places. Boom. There’s never been a more perfect way for a >pandemic to spread.

    Thanksgiving in America is going to be something beyond a super-spreader >event. A hyper-spreader event will be more like it.

    And that is squarely due to Donald Trump. He minimized, he denied, he
    lied, and we now know that he knew full well that it was a lethal disease
    all along, as Bob Woodward has reported. So America, to this day, is
    probably the only nation in the world that doesn’t have a national Covid >strategy. But you can’t beat the pandemic without one. Americans — enough >of them, at least — think of freedom as free-dumb: the right to carry a
    gun and spread a deadly disease.

    Whose fault is that? On one level, history’s. On another level, the >President’s. Leadership is educating people when they are being malicious, >ignorant, and careless. But Trump, being the epitome of all that, only >encouraged his army of American Idiots not to take Covid seriously. Hence, >the bizarre, jaw-dropping phenomenon of Covid patients on their ICU >death-beds lashing in rage out at nurses because they still think Covid >doesn’t exist.

    Contrast that with, say, Jacinda Ardern — who called upon “team New >Zealand” to unite and not just fight the viurs, but wipe it out. Can you >imagine Trump calling on Americans as a team? To do anything remotely >positive, like wiping out a deadly virus?

    Americans don’t know — and don’t seem to care nearly enough, even the good
    and intelligent ones — about a simple fact of reality. With good >leadership, America should have somewhere between hundreds and low, low >thousands of deaths — that’s what nations like Singapore and New Zealand >and South Korea had, per capita. Trump’s recklessness means 98% of 250,000 >deaths were needless. Is that, like the Atlantic says, negligent homicide?
    If it isn’t, then what is?

    After hyper-spreader Thanskgiving, sadly, that number is going to explode. >Trump is going to do as much damage as he possibly can. He’s a moron, but >he’s not a dummy: he knows, remember, Covid is deadly. And there he is >golfing, while two thousand people a day die. That’s not just some kind of >tantrum or laziness or self-indulgence. It’s more like a deliberate act of >surreal and horrific violence by a head of state.

    If only Americans would see it as such.

    Then let’s come to the transfer of power. The pundits say that Trump’s >coup isn’t succeeding, but they’re wrong. A coup can succeed in three >ways, absolutely, mostly, or partially. Absolutely means that power is >transferred to the tyrant — Trump’s failed on this score, true. But that’s
    the lowest possible bar.

    “Mostly” means that a coup corrodes democracy enough to seriously >delegitimise and weaken it. Almost 70% of Republicans believe that the >election was stolen — from them. How do you square that with a democracy? >Trump has been spreading disinformation and misinformation furiously,
    lying at light speed, to accomplish just this goal — if he can’t hang on >to power, then at least he can corrode democracy enough to leave it a
    smoking wreck.

    Think of the post-Trump future. How do you govern a society where 70% of
    the other side believes the election was stolen from them — and that’s >just the beginning? When they won’t take the Covid vaccine, so the nation >will never have immunity? When they’ve stopped believing in science, >because praying the gay away will save them? When they actively support >racial supremacy and think of minorities as hated subhumans? When they
    turn a blind eye to mass death at the scale of a nuclear bomb, which is
    what 250,000 dead are?

    How do you govern a nation like that — a place that’s been turned into a >Land of Idiots? The short answer: not very well, and maybe not at all. >That’s the point. Trump will happily take this consolation prize of the >coup mostly succeeding. It’s pretty good, from his point of view — which >is the abuser’s. Why do abusers beat their significant others — hardest >when they finally try to leave — to the point that that’s when they face >the greatest risk of the most harm? Because the logic is “if I can’t have >you, then nobody will.”

    Abusers are willing to destroy what they pretend to love, so that he or
    she is forever their possession. So that their capacities for
    self-governance and agency and self-determination are ruined, forever, as >much as possible. Sound familiar? It should. That’s exactly — exactly — >what Trump’s doing to American democracy on his way out. He is trying to >abuse it, and I don’t mean that metaphorically. He seems to be doing real >violence, with negligence on Covid. He’s brainwashing his Army of Idiots >with a cannonade of lies every day — so that they never believe in >themselves as citizens of a democracy again. If I can’t have you, America, >nobody will, he’s saying. And he might just be succeeding.

    Now let me come to what a coup “partially” succeeding means. There’s a >certain government official whom by now you might have heard of — the head >of the GSA — who’s single-handedly holding up the transfer of power.

    So Joe Biden has had to crowdfund it.

    Think about how absurd that is — the President-Elect of the United States >of America has to crowdfund money for transferring power, hiring people, >vetting them, planning, even just moving expenses — because his
    predecessor won’t turn the funds over to him. Comical? Ludicrous? Surreal? >All those and more. It’s like if Schitt’s Creek went to Washington DC.

    Trump’s pettiness knows no bounds because he knows that whatever level his >coup succeeds on is still a success. If he can withhold funds from Biden,
    and thwart the transfer of power, he can eke out the illusion that Biden >stole the election for a while longer. He can keep his Army of Idiots >believers. He can keep the charade going, and that is what tyranny is,
    always a charade — because a handful of people can only control many, many >more than them through the illusion of power.

    Meanwhile, the GOP is mostly going along with all this. It’s true in some >limited way that GOP officials have resisted Trump’s electoral college >tampering — so far. There is still plenty of time to go. And the media is >giving them credit for winning the election — which is effectively giving >old white dudes credit for doing something minorities did. So the wool is >pulled over even the good Americans’ eyes. They don’t fully understand >just how much damage Trump is doing to democracy on his way out.

    How much damage is that? Trump has normalised burning democracy down, in
    an attempt to retain power. Think of the lunacy of the last few months.
    Trump declaring victory on election night. The sophisticated coup which
    went into action on election day. The endless lies, the refusal to
    concede, the constant inversions and suspensions of reality. The electoral >college tampering, the judicial challenges, the intimidation, the calls to >put “militias” on “stand by.” All that’s now probably what the GOP’s going
    to do, all over again, from now to eternity. It’s not a party that’s >interested in democracy anymore — and what Trump has done on his way out
    is to solidify that into a governing approach. That’s not my opinion, by >the way — the world’s leading scholars of authoritarian collapse are the >ones who say the GOP’s now a party that’s more against democracy than for >it.

    So how is America to be governed, when Trump has legitimised the GOP being >the anti-democracy party, not just the opposition of The Democrats? When >he’s made it perfectly acceptable, at least within the GOP, to do >everything from tampering with electoral college, to lying a thousand
    times a day, to declaring victory on election night, to refusing to
    concede and accept the President-Elect? How is America to be governed when >the GOP and the Americans behind it, which is still about half the
    country, have had authoritarianism legitimised by Trump, right down to >seizing power by whatever means are available?

    Trump’s coup has been very, very successful on all these levels. It hasn’t >been absolutely successful — as in another Trump term, despite the wishes >of American democracy. But it has been successful in a darker way, perhaps
    a more dangerous one still in the long run. It’s corroded the norms,
    rules, codes that govern American democracy, especially in its most
    crucial moments, like the transfer of power. It’s hardened the Army of >Idiots in Red States who want to live in something like a theocratic >authoritarian supremacist apartheid state, not a democracy, like 1980s
    South Africa by way of 2000s Iran. It’s shattered whatever tiny remnant
    the GOP had left as a party of democracy, and made it a fully
    authoritarian party.

    All that’s a satisfying enough consolation prize for Trump for a good >reason. It sets up next time. Maybe Trump runs again — or maybe one of the >little Trumps do. It doesn’t matter. What does matter is that Trump has >left American democracy a wounded animal. A desperate and wretched thing, >bleeding from the limbs, in shock. And a wounded animal is all that much >easier to kill, the next time around.

    If you don’t understand that, think about this. The entire rest of the >world — all of it — is utterly spellbound, aghast, shocked, bewildered, >staggered. That Americans are now people who seem to shrug and accept mass >death. Whom authoritarians can inflict mass death on, and get away with
    it. That puts them among history’s most broken, defeated, weakest nations. >250,000 Americans have died. Another tsunami is to be piled atop that. >Trump’s golfing. I don’t think the world is wrong.

    A wounded animal is easier to kill. Remember that. Trump knows it. That’s >what he — and his movement — are thinking. Even as the pundits say that >the coup is failing. Sometimes, you lose a battle — but inflict enough >damage to win the war.

    Mad kings do the most damage on the way out, too, for just that reason,
    just like abusers. Better to leave a nation a weakened, ruined thing, that >nobody else can have — if you can’t hold onto it anymore yourself.

    ### - good article! and is very accurate!

    although imho the world will be indeed lucky for it to all just end there?

    cue then say a war with iran to turn everyone's head yet again with who
    knows what consequences to follow? having now threatened to retaliate over >the assassination of their leading nuclear physicist iran can now be
    blamed for just about 'anything' that happens?? after which the cry will
    ring out: look what they've done! look what they've done! and thus iran
    will become a smoldering heap? the problems at home swept completely aside >and forgotten as now the whole world is unceremoniously dragged into it in
    a dazes state!?

    methinks america will come to rue the day they put him in office to just, >erm, repair the economy?

    i mean, it's really quite astounding??

    coz oh boy are we all screwed now!

    Nope, not screwed. Barr has just advised no evidence of fraud, and
    Barr was the Orange Orangutang's choice.

    Here:

    https://morningshots.thebulwark.com/p/hanging-up-on-trump

    Watch the video. It's platinum :)

    The Tangerine Tyrant is losing his mind along with his cohorts and
    adherents and the Presidency. And his self respect.



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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, December 02, 2020 06:36:52
    From: slider@anashram.com

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMY5xe36cfE

    ### - trumpty dumpty sat on a wall
    trumpty dumpty had a great fall
    all the kings horses & all the kings men
    couldn't put dumpty together again...

    so they fucked off and we all had scrambled egg for breakfast ahaha :)

    still watchin' the greatest show on earth here boss...

    next episode: JR finally gets his just deserts

    and sent on his way with a golden golf club wedged up his tucus for good measure

    owwwwch! :)))

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to thangolossus@gmail.com on Wednesday, December 02, 2020 06:49:32
    From: slider@anashram.com

    On Wed, 02 Dec 2020 03:41:27 -0000, thang ornerythinchus <thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 11:08:07 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
    wrote:

    Nero fiddled while Rome burned. Caligula, reclining and being fed
    grapes,
    installed his horse in the Senate. Donald Trump is golfing while America
    collapses.

    Like so many tyrants before him — would-be and true — Trump, in the
    throes
    of inevitable defeat, has become a mad king. He’s lost the plot. He’s
    lashing out in impotent rage, when he’s not sulking in infantile
    resentment. All that while a desperate America thrashes in the throes of
    crisis after crisis. He’s every bit the equivalent of a modern day
    Caligula or Nero. And like so many mad kings before him, the damage he’s >> doing as he loses power may be even greater than the damage he did when
    he
    had it.

    https://eand.co/donald-trump-is-destroying-america-on-his-way-out-258a2b54d053

    That’s because that is what mad kings tend to want to do: inflict as
    much
    damage as they can, on their way out. On the societies they think failed
    them, on the nations which have rejected them, on the people they have
    always resented and hated and had contempt for. Never do you the truth
    of a person like a tyrant during the end of his time in power. It’s
    like a
    bomb going off, over and over again usually — and that’s what America
    faces now, as Trump loses his hold on power, but abuses whatever he has
    left to do as much damage to American, and Americans, as he possibly
    can.

    Let’s start with Covid. Maybe you think I’m depressing? Maybe you think >> I
    overstate things. Good, don’t take it from me. Take it from the
    Atlantic,
    that establishment bastion of WASPy understatement. According to them,
    Trump’s response to Covid amounts to “negligent homicide.” It’s not an
    unfair description. Americans don’t seem to grasp, really, just how
    devastating Covid has been. Maybe that’s because they’re busy, wearily >> living through the nightmare.

    Covid in America is so bad that 9 of the world’s top 10 hotspots are all >> American states. 8 of them are red states. Because so many red states
    became hotspots, America never defeated Covid. Instead, it’s followed a
    kind of weird, ominous stair-step pattern. The steps aren’t waves,
    really
    — they never crest and fall. They’re more like three tsunamis, each
    piled
    atop the next.

    Hence, a quarter of a million Americans are dead — and counting.

    And things are about to, probably, get much, much worse. Why? Because
    Americans, who aren’t taking Covid seriously enough — maybe not you, but >> as a society — are travelling en masse, as they usually, do, for
    Thanksgiving, the holidays, Christmas.

    Covid in America got this bad essentially because of three things. One,
    red states had super-spreader events. Two, almost no state had a proper,
    Asian-style, lockdown. And three, the combination of those led to Covid
    spreading like wildfire.

    Now imagine Thanksgiving. Millions of people travelling. Crammed into
    cars, buses, airplanes. Stuck in airports and train stations.
    Overheated,
    unventilated places. Boom. There’s never been a more perfect way for a
    pandemic to spread.

    Thanksgiving in America is going to be something beyond a super-spreader
    event. A hyper-spreader event will be more like it.

    And that is squarely due to Donald Trump. He minimized, he denied, he
    lied, and we now know that he knew full well that it was a lethal
    disease
    all along, as Bob Woodward has reported. So America, to this day, is
    probably the only nation in the world that doesn’t have a national Covid >> strategy. But you can’t beat the pandemic without one. Americans —
    enough
    of them, at least — think of freedom as free-dumb: the right to carry a
    gun and spread a deadly disease.

    Whose fault is that? On one level, history’s. On another level, the
    President’s. Leadership is educating people when they are being
    malicious,
    ignorant, and careless. But Trump, being the epitome of all that, only
    encouraged his army of American Idiots not to take Covid seriously.
    Hence,
    the bizarre, jaw-dropping phenomenon of Covid patients on their ICU
    death-beds lashing in rage out at nurses because they still think Covid
    doesn’t exist.

    Contrast that with, say, Jacinda Ardern — who called upon “team New
    Zealand” to unite and not just fight the viurs, but wipe it out. Can you >> imagine Trump calling on Americans as a team? To do anything remotely
    positive, like wiping out a deadly virus?

    Americans don’t know — and don’t seem to care nearly enough, even the >> good
    and intelligent ones — about a simple fact of reality. With good
    leadership, America should have somewhere between hundreds and low, low
    thousands of deaths — that’s what nations like Singapore and New Zealand >> and South Korea had, per capita. Trump’s recklessness means 98% of
    250,000
    deaths were needless. Is that, like the Atlantic says, negligent
    homicide?
    If it isn’t, then what is?

    After hyper-spreader Thanskgiving, sadly, that number is going to
    explode.
    Trump is going to do as much damage as he possibly can. He’s a moron,
    but
    he’s not a dummy: he knows, remember, Covid is deadly. And there he is
    golfing, while two thousand people a day die. That’s not just some kind
    of
    tantrum or laziness or self-indulgence. It’s more like a deliberate act
    of
    surreal and horrific violence by a head of state.

    If only Americans would see it as such.

    Then let’s come to the transfer of power. The pundits say that Trump’s >> coup isn’t succeeding, but they’re wrong. A coup can succeed in three
    ways, absolutely, mostly, or partially. Absolutely means that power is
    transferred to the tyrant — Trump’s failed on this score, true. But
    that’s
    the lowest possible bar.

    “Mostly” means that a coup corrodes democracy enough to seriously
    delegitimise and weaken it. Almost 70% of Republicans believe that the
    election was stolen — from them. How do you square that with a
    democracy?
    Trump has been spreading disinformation and misinformation furiously,
    lying at light speed, to accomplish just this goal — if he can’t hang on >> to power, then at least he can corrode democracy enough to leave it a
    smoking wreck.

    Think of the post-Trump future. How do you govern a society where 70% of
    the other side believes the election was stolen from them — and that’s >> just the beginning? When they won’t take the Covid vaccine, so the
    nation
    will never have immunity? When they’ve stopped believing in science,
    because praying the gay away will save them? When they actively support
    racial supremacy and think of minorities as hated subhumans? When they
    turn a blind eye to mass death at the scale of a nuclear bomb, which is
    what 250,000 dead are?

    How do you govern a nation like that — a place that’s been turned into a >> Land of Idiots? The short answer: not very well, and maybe not at all.
    That’s the point. Trump will happily take this consolation prize of the
    coup mostly succeeding. It’s pretty good, from his point of view — which >> is the abuser’s. Why do abusers beat their significant others — hardest >> when they finally try to leave — to the point that that’s when they face >> the greatest risk of the most harm? Because the logic is “if I can’t
    have
    you, then nobody will.”

    Abusers are willing to destroy what they pretend to love, so that he or
    she is forever their possession. So that their capacities for
    self-governance and agency and self-determination are ruined, forever,
    as
    much as possible. Sound familiar? It should. That’s exactly — exactly —
    what Trump’s doing to American democracy on his way out. He is trying to >> abuse it, and I don’t mean that metaphorically. He seems to be doing
    real
    violence, with negligence on Covid. He’s brainwashing his Army of Idiots >> with a cannonade of lies every day — so that they never believe in
    themselves as citizens of a democracy again. If I can’t have you,
    America,
    nobody will, he’s saying. And he might just be succeeding.

    Now let me come to what a coup “partially” succeeding means. There’s a >> certain government official whom by now you might have heard of — the
    head
    of the GSA — who’s single-handedly holding up the transfer of power.

    So Joe Biden has had to crowdfund it.

    Think about how absurd that is — the President-Elect of the United
    States
    of America has to crowdfund money for transferring power, hiring people,
    vetting them, planning, even just moving expenses — because his
    predecessor won’t turn the funds over to him. Comical? Ludicrous?
    Surreal?
    All those and more. It’s like if Schitt’s Creek went to Washington DC. >>
    Trump’s pettiness knows no bounds because he knows that whatever level
    his
    coup succeeds on is still a success. If he can withhold funds from
    Biden,
    and thwart the transfer of power, he can eke out the illusion that Biden
    stole the election for a while longer. He can keep his Army of Idiots
    believers. He can keep the charade going, and that is what tyranny is,
    always a charade — because a handful of people can only control many,
    many
    more than them through the illusion of power.

    Meanwhile, the GOP is mostly going along with all this. It’s true in
    some
    limited way that GOP officials have resisted Trump’s electoral college
    tampering — so far. There is still plenty of time to go. And the media
    is
    giving them credit for winning the election — which is effectively
    giving
    old white dudes credit for doing something minorities did. So the wool
    is
    pulled over even the good Americans’ eyes. They don’t fully understand >> just how much damage Trump is doing to democracy on his way out.

    How much damage is that? Trump has normalised burning democracy down, in
    an attempt to retain power. Think of the lunacy of the last few months.
    Trump declaring victory on election night. The sophisticated coup which
    went into action on election day. The endless lies, the refusal to
    concede, the constant inversions and suspensions of reality. The
    electoral
    college tampering, the judicial challenges, the intimidation, the calls
    to
    put “militias” on “stand by.” All that’s now probably what the GOP’s
    going
    to do, all over again, from now to eternity. It’s not a party that’s
    interested in democracy anymore — and what Trump has done on his way out >> is to solidify that into a governing approach. That’s not my opinion, by >> the way — the world’s leading scholars of authoritarian collapse are the >> ones who say the GOP’s now a party that’s more against democracy than
    for
    it.

    So how is America to be governed, when Trump has legitimised the GOP
    being
    the anti-democracy party, not just the opposition of The Democrats? When
    he’s made it perfectly acceptable, at least within the GOP, to do
    everything from tampering with electoral college, to lying a thousand
    times a day, to declaring victory on election night, to refusing to
    concede and accept the President-Elect? How is America to be governed
    when
    the GOP and the Americans behind it, which is still about half the
    country, have had authoritarianism legitimised by Trump, right down to
    seizing power by whatever means are available?

    Trump’s coup has been very, very successful on all these levels. It
    hasn’t
    been absolutely successful — as in another Trump term, despite the
    wishes
    of American democracy. But it has been successful in a darker way,
    perhaps
    a more dangerous one still in the long run. It’s corroded the norms,
    rules, codes that govern American democracy, especially in its most
    crucial moments, like the transfer of power. It’s hardened the Army of
    Idiots in Red States who want to live in something like a theocratic
    authoritarian supremacist apartheid state, not a democracy, like 1980s
    South Africa by way of 2000s Iran. It’s shattered whatever tiny remnant
    the GOP had left as a party of democracy, and made it a fully
    authoritarian party.

    All that’s a satisfying enough consolation prize for Trump for a good
    reason. It sets up next time. Maybe Trump runs again — or maybe one of
    the
    little Trumps do. It doesn’t matter. What does matter is that Trump has
    left American democracy a wounded animal. A desperate and wretched
    thing,
    bleeding from the limbs, in shock. And a wounded animal is all that much
    easier to kill, the next time around.

    If you don’t understand that, think about this. The entire rest of the
    world — all of it — is utterly spellbound, aghast, shocked, bewildered, >> staggered. That Americans are now people who seem to shrug and accept
    mass
    death. Whom authoritarians can inflict mass death on, and get away with
    it. That puts them among history’s most broken, defeated, weakest
    nations.
    250,000 Americans have died. Another tsunami is to be piled atop that.
    Trump’s golfing. I don’t think the world is wrong.

    A wounded animal is easier to kill. Remember that. Trump knows it.
    That’s
    what he — and his movement — are thinking. Even as the pundits say that >> the coup is failing. Sometimes, you lose a battle — but inflict enough
    damage to win the war.

    Mad kings do the most damage on the way out, too, for just that reason,
    just like abusers. Better to leave a nation a weakened, ruined thing,
    that
    nobody else can have — if you can’t hold onto it anymore yourself.

    ### - good article! and is very accurate!

    although imho the world will be indeed lucky for it to all just end
    there?

    cue then say a war with iran to turn everyone's head yet again with who
    knows what consequences to follow? having now threatened to retaliate
    over
    the assassination of their leading nuclear physicist iran can now be
    blamed for just about 'anything' that happens?? after which the cry will
    ring out: look what they've done! look what they've done! and thus iran
    will become a smoldering heap? the problems at home swept completely
    aside
    and forgotten as now the whole world is unceremoniously dragged into it
    in
    a dazes state!?

    methinks america will come to rue the day they put him in office to
    just,
    erm, repair the economy?


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  • From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, December 02, 2020 17:25:16
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    On Wed, 02 Dec 2020 06:36:52 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
    wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMY5xe36cfE

    ### - trumpty dumpty sat on a wall
    trumpty dumpty had a great fall
    all the kings horses & all the kings men
    couldn't put dumpty together again...

    so they fucked off and we all had scrambled egg for breakfast ahaha :)

    still watchin' the greatest show on earth here boss...

    next episode: JR finally gets his just deserts

    and sent on his way with a golden golf club wedged up his tucus for good >measure

    owwwwch! :)))

    Lol, it's called schadenfreude...and fkn KARMA!!

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