I'm still here man, damn PC melted down so spent the last few days
rebuilding - I keep backups of my backups, but finding them,
correlating etc.
Give me a day or two and I'll be back. Well before the election...
I intend to keep this place alive - call it a middle finger to the
dopes who didn't have the sauce to stay.
*They* know who they are :)
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 03:24:43 -0000, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm still here man, damn PC melted down so spent the last few days
rebuilding - I keep backups of my backups, but finding them,
correlating etc.
Give me a day or two and I'll be back. Well before the election...
I intend to keep this place alive - call it a middle finger to the
dopes who didn't have the sauce to stay.
*They* know who they are :)
### - haha no problem, this election should be a bit of fun, some drama in
an otherwise really quite boring soap opera, the episode (in Dallas)
where, hopefully, JR get's his arse kicked right down the road lol :)))
and then perforce there's the autopsy afterwards to look forward to as
well heh ;)
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 11:20:40 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 03:24:43 -0000, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm still here man, damn PC melted down so spent the last few days
rebuilding - I keep backups of my backups, but finding them,
correlating etc.
Give me a day or two and I'll be back. Well before the election...
I intend to keep this place alive - call it a middle finger to the
dopes who didn't have the sauce to stay.
*They* know who they are :)
### - haha no problem, this election should be a bit of fun, some drama
in
an otherwise really quite boring soap opera, the episode (in Dallas)
where, hopefully, JR get's his arse kicked right down the road lol :)))
and then perforce there's the autopsy afterwards to look forward to as
well heh ;)
Yep <1 week and counting. Trump shows no nerves and Biden is keeping
a reasonably low profile because it's more than likely it's his
election to lose.
You can't just depend on CNN for news nor Fox - they slant apart, left
to right as you might say. Biden is ahead on national and state polls
but they have this thing called Electoral College where states like California and Florida are worth much, much more than say North
Carolina. If Biden can turn Florida or Texas, he's probably got it in
the bag.
The right wing is armed and ready. The left is armed and ready.
Americans killed over a million of their contrymen in the Civil War
and a hell of a lot of Brits in the War of Independence. They like
war and have no issue having it internally. It will be quite a
showdown on 3 November.
I for one will be glued to the TV. We in Australia are tied to the
fate of the Yanks far more than to the Brits. We owe the Yanks for
what they did in WW2 in the Pacific against the Samurai barbarians and
since then we have been back to back with them in more wars than even
the Canadians. We're gonna need them against the ChiComs. Trump is
great against the ChiComs but Biden is an unknown quantity. Let's
see.
On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 13:06:17 -0000, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 11:20:40 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 03:24:43 -0000, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm still here man, damn PC melted down so spent the last few days
rebuilding - I keep backups of my backups, but finding them,
correlating etc.
Give me a day or two and I'll be back. Well before the election...
I intend to keep this place alive - call it a middle finger to the
dopes who didn't have the sauce to stay.
*They* know who they are :)
### - haha no problem, this election should be a bit of fun, some drama
in
an otherwise really quite boring soap opera, the episode (in Dallas)
where, hopefully, JR get's his arse kicked right down the road lol :)))
and then perforce there's the autopsy afterwards to look forward to as
well heh ;)
Yep <1 week and counting. Trump shows no nerves and Biden is keeping
a reasonably low profile because it's more than likely it's his
election to lose.
You can't just depend on CNN for news nor Fox - they slant apart, left
to right as you might say. Biden is ahead on national and state polls
but they have this thing called Electoral College where states like
California and Florida are worth much, much more than say North
Carolina. If Biden can turn Florida or Texas, he's probably got it in
the bag.
The right wing is armed and ready. The left is armed and ready.
Americans killed over a million of their contrymen in the Civil War
and a hell of a lot of Brits in the War of Independence. They like
war and have no issue having it internally. It will be quite a
showdown on 3 November.
###b - that they 'like' war is an understatement lol :D
i.e., The US has Been at war 225 out of 243 years since 1776??
like it?? they fuckin' LOVE it! :D it's their modus-operandi!
"With an estimated 120.5 guns for every 100 residents, the firearm
ownership rate in the United States is twice that of the next-highest
nation, Yemen, with just 52.8 guns per 100 residents. In raw number terms, >the closest country to the United States is India, with 71.1 million
firearms in circulation." (google)
I for one will be glued to the TV. We in Australia are tied to the
fate of the Yanks far more than to the Brits. We owe the Yanks for
what they did in WW2 in the Pacific against the Samurai barbarians and
since then we have been back to back with them in more wars than even
the Canadians. We're gonna need them against the ChiComs. Trump is
great against the ChiComs but Biden is an unknown quantity. Let's
see.
### - biden is fairly typical of modern left-wing policy: center-left with >fair-er shares for everyone kinda thing? (tony blair was similar for
example, but so central he was almost a right-winger lol, something which
at the time caused me to call him: 'tory blur' haha)
and if biden's not exactly that, then is at least heading/leaning in that >direction as they always do if not of the too far-left... (Corbyn here was >farther-left, which is why even his own party disapproved of him, the
loons!)
am still hoping he'll win it though, if only as a protest-vote from a >populace fed up by now with the rantings & ravings of a lunatic? methinks >they might be just a bit jaded with all that by now, what with covid on
top of all that too?
plus no doubt trumpy's gonna make some big-deal outta the postal votes if
he loses heh (their biggest postal-vote in history!) the best that could >happen being a total landslide to biden, sooo BIG the postal votes wont
even matter... (a best case scenario heh)
so yeah it should be good, and even very entertaining lol depending on
which way it all goes haha...
this world is just so fucked up though thang that trumpy could still win
it, their electoral collage bs being a way to virtually guarantee a fix
can always go in, whereas a one-man-one-vote system (i.e., what they >euphemistically call: the popular vote hah!) would always be more >representative...
the whole world is thus rigged to work & function in a very certain + >specific way that ultimately stinks to high heaven...
that IF there's a 'god' up there, he must be choking on the fumes of it
all by now heh ;)
On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 17:29:00 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 13:06:17 -0000, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 11:20:40 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 03:24:43 -0000, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm still here man, damn PC melted down so spent the last few days
rebuilding - I keep backups of my backups, but finding them,
correlating etc.
Give me a day or two and I'll be back. Well before the election...
I intend to keep this place alive - call it a middle finger to the
dopes who didn't have the sauce to stay.
*They* know who they are :)
### - haha no problem, this election should be a bit of fun, some
drama
in
an otherwise really quite boring soap opera, the episode (in Dallas)
where, hopefully, JR get's his arse kicked right down the road lol
:)))
and then perforce there's the autopsy afterwards to look forward to as >>>> well heh ;)
Yep <1 week and counting. Trump shows no nerves and Biden is keeping
a reasonably low profile because it's more than likely it's his
election to lose.
You can't just depend on CNN for news nor Fox - they slant apart, left
to right as you might say. Biden is ahead on national and state polls
but they have this thing called Electoral College where states like
California and Florida are worth much, much more than say North
Carolina. If Biden can turn Florida or Texas, he's probably got it in
the bag.
The right wing is armed and ready. The left is armed and ready.
Americans killed over a million of their contrymen in the Civil War
and a hell of a lot of Brits in the War of Independence. They like
war and have no issue having it internally. It will be quite a
showdown on 3 November.
###b - that they 'like' war is an understatement lol :D
i.e., The US has Been at war 225 out of 243 years since 1776??
like it?? they fuckin' LOVE it! :D it's their modus-operandi!
"With an estimated 120.5 guns for every 100 residents, the firearm
ownership rate in the United States is twice that of the next-highest
nation, Yemen, with just 52.8 guns per 100 residents. In raw number
terms,
the closest country to the United States is India, with 71.1 million
firearms in circulation." (google)
I tend to agree. Many suppose Germany is a belligerent country but it
really only unified as Germany late 19thC and then was drawn into ww1
and as we know now the unfair Versailles settlement and theft of the
Ruhr etc by France led to WW2 and Hitler's opportunities in such a way
that WW2 is now seen, rightly so, as a continuation of WW1. Germany
is now pacifist in all meaningful ways.
Russia much the same. Not at all imperialist or hegemonist in the
ways the US, England, France, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Germany and so
on have been in the past. Really the Sovs wanted a ring of buffer
states around them at the end of the day. Same can be said of China
which is mortally afraid of the US's power and wants buffer oceans
around them - they have so many border conflicts at the moment it's ridiculous.
But the Yanks. Worthy successors to England for hegemony and
expansion using the mighty dollar. War, war, war and more war. And
we, in Australia, are there with them all the way (our catchcry in the Vietnam war - where there was only the US and Australia - was "All the
way with LBJ")
Nevertheless, the Yanks are the epicentre of democracy and on 3
November we will see that in action in a way in which it will never be
seen in China, Cuba, Russia, Belarus and the other hellish places
where authority rules and you can be killed simply for having a
different perspective on politics.
I for one will be glued to the TV. We in Australia are tied to the
fate of the Yanks far more than to the Brits. We owe the Yanks for
what they did in WW2 in the Pacific against the Samurai barbarians and
since then we have been back to back with them in more wars than even
the Canadians. We're gonna need them against the ChiComs. Trump is
great against the ChiComs but Biden is an unknown quantity. Let's
see.
### - biden is fairly typical of modern left-wing policy: center-left
with
fair-er shares for everyone kinda thing? (tony blair was similar for
example, but so central he was almost a right-winger lol, something
which
at the time caused me to call him: 'tory blur' haha)
Tony Blair was a fucking hypocrite - Bush's plaything in the post-9/11
wars, a yes man if ever there was one. We had such a cunt too, his
name was John Howard. Both consigned to the ash bin of history.
and if biden's not exactly that, then is at least heading/leaning in
that
direction as they always do if not of the too far-left... (Corbyn here
was
farther-left, which is why even his own party disapproved of him, the
loons!)
America will never, ever vote a far left polly in. That would be
tantamount to giving up to the Russians. There is too much water
under the bridge for that to ever happen.
Whereas here in Australia we have had moderate socialism of the same
order as you in the UK - good socialised medicine, excellent welfare
and so on. I think we modeled our Medicare system after the UK's if
I'm not mistaken, and it works wonderfully well.
am still hoping he'll win it though, if only as a protest-vote from a
populace fed up by now with the rantings & ravings of a lunatic?
methinks
they might be just a bit jaded with all that by now, what with covid on
top of all that too?
Oh there's not much wrong with Biden. He admitted to mistakes by him
and Obame in the last debate which was great - I always have a place
for anyone who can admit they were wrong (something I haven't seen you
do mate, even when you have been wrong lol).
I like Joe, I think he's ok if not a tad slow in memory - but what the
fuck, I'm going to be late-60's soon and my memories are all still
intact as far as I know, but it's a shitload slower retrieving them :)
plus no doubt trumpy's gonna make some big-deal outta the postal votes
if
he loses heh (their biggest postal-vote in history!) the best that could
happen being a total landslide to biden, sooo BIG the postal votes wont
even matter... (a best case scenario heh)
I think Trump is fucked and when he loses, he will foment some sort of conflict perhaps even approaching a civil war. Let's wait and see,
it's all very imminent.
so yeah it should be good, and even very entertaining lol depending on
which way it all goes haha...
Yep, you got that right. I will be enjoying myself immensely.
this world is just so fucked up though thang that trumpy could still win
it, their electoral collage bs being a way to virtually guarantee a fix
can always go in, whereas a one-man-one-vote system (i.e., what they
euphemistically call: the popular vote hah!) would always be more
representative...
It's not the world that's fucked up, it's human nature - we're peak
thinkers, predators and toolmakers, but we haven't shucked off our
primal baggage from our primordial beginnings. That will come - the
danger is we will wipe ourselves out before we can defeat our
instincts and evolutionary survival traits.
I'm always surprised that many people can't see this self-evident
fact. One needs a view of nature unburdened with sentimentality and
belief in tooth fairies and gods and all that junk - then reality
comes plainly into view.
the whole world is thus rigged to work & function in a very certain +
specific way that ultimately stinks to high heaven...
You mean "human world" - nature generated our species and when we are extinct, whether it be in 50 years or 50,000,000 years, we won't be
missed by nature at all.
that IF there's a 'god' up there, he must be choking on the fumes of it
all by now heh ;)
There's no "up" to start with. We're just a blip on the screen, an
outlier even in this pretty ordinary galaxy we're gravitationally
bound to. There definitely isn't a god in the way we imagine it to
be. Most people, deep deep down, know this.
On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 00:52:46 -0000, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 17:29:00 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 13:06:17 -0000, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 11:20:40 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 03:24:43 -0000, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm still here man, damn PC melted down so spent the last few days >>>>>> rebuilding - I keep backups of my backups, but finding them,
correlating etc.
Give me a day or two and I'll be back. Well before the election... >>>>>>
I intend to keep this place alive - call it a middle finger to the >>>>>> dopes who didn't have the sauce to stay.
*They* know who they are :)
### - haha no problem, this election should be a bit of fun, some
drama
in
an otherwise really quite boring soap opera, the episode (in Dallas) >>>>> where, hopefully, JR get's his arse kicked right down the road lol
:)))
and then perforce there's the autopsy afterwards to look forward to as >>>>> well heh ;)
Yep <1 week and counting. Trump shows no nerves and Biden is keeping
a reasonably low profile because it's more than likely it's his
election to lose.
You can't just depend on CNN for news nor Fox - they slant apart, left >>>> to right as you might say. Biden is ahead on national and state polls >>>> but they have this thing called Electoral College where states like
California and Florida are worth much, much more than say North
Carolina. If Biden can turn Florida or Texas, he's probably got it in >>>> the bag.
The right wing is armed and ready. The left is armed and ready.
Americans killed over a million of their contrymen in the Civil War
and a hell of a lot of Brits in the War of Independence. They like
war and have no issue having it internally. It will be quite a
showdown on 3 November.
###b - that they 'like' war is an understatement lol :D
i.e., The US has Been at war 225 out of 243 years since 1776??
like it?? they fuckin' LOVE it! :D it's their modus-operandi!
"With an estimated 120.5 guns for every 100 residents, the firearm
ownership rate in the United States is twice that of the next-highest
nation, Yemen, with just 52.8 guns per 100 residents. In raw number
terms,
the closest country to the United States is India, with 71.1 million
firearms in circulation." (google)
I tend to agree. Many suppose Germany is a belligerent country but it
really only unified as Germany late 19thC and then was drawn into ww1
and as we know now the unfair Versailles settlement and theft of the
Ruhr etc by France led to WW2 and Hitler's opportunities in such a way
that WW2 is now seen, rightly so, as a continuation of WW1. Germany
is now pacifist in all meaningful ways.
### - correct imho... even to the point that any ww3 will likely just be a >continuation of the first two as well in financial terms, germany now >pacifist to a point, of them cringing at even the very idea! (i.e., 70
years of the rest of the planet screaming in their ear & poking them with >sticks re: you filthy fucking nazi bastards gassing the jews etc etc etc;
a whole 2 generations of them living now with a genuine fear/phobia of
having anything whatsoever to even 'do' with war ever again!)
something that was clearly illustrated during the gulf war when saddam >hussain lobbed scud missiles at israel that were suspected of maybe >containing poison gas, whereon germany (who just so happens to be the
world's leading experts in gassing people + lol at the irony) was sent for
to test for any gas but refused point blank to have anything to do with
it? the whole episode making them cringe at just the 'thought' of having >anything to with people being gassed lol (a cringe-factor of 100% lol)
were then turned upon and savaged by the rest of the world for being
cowards now for not wanting to get involved??? ahaha! :)))
Russia much the same. Not at all imperialist or hegemonist in the
ways the US, England, France, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Germany and so
on have been in the past. Really the Sovs wanted a ring of buffer
states around them at the end of the day. Same can be said of China
which is mortally afraid of the US's power and wants buffer oceans
around them - they have so many border conflicts at the moment it's
ridiculous.
### - agreed, we've got them actively ring-fenced in that sense with nukes >pointed right at them from all angles, and only being forced to re-capture >crimea that time when their only port-access to the black sea was being >threatened (i.e., they'd been very successfully + peacefully leasing that >port from ukraine right up until that point, plonkershenco; the pawn of
the west, constituting a direct threat to that access they really had no >other choice...)
But the Yanks. Worthy successors to England for hegemony and
expansion using the mighty dollar. War, war, war and more war. And
we, in Australia, are there with them all the way (our catchcry in the
Vietnam war - where there was only the US and Australia - was "All the
way with LBJ")
Nevertheless, the Yanks are the epicentre of democracy and on 3
November we will see that in action in a way in which it will never be
seen in China, Cuba, Russia, Belarus and the other hellish places
where authority rules and you can be killed simply for having a
different perspective on politics.
### - it's only a democracy so-called imho, because beneath the surface
it's not really nor actually a democracy at all, and in fact remains a
system of slaves & masters no matter how they paint it... that no matter >'who' (or what) those slave vote for; the masters always get in?
I for one will be glued to the TV. We in Australia are tied to the
fate of the Yanks far more than to the Brits. We owe the Yanks for
what they did in WW2 in the Pacific against the Samurai barbarians and >>>> since then we have been back to back with them in more wars than even
the Canadians. We're gonna need them against the ChiComs. Trump is
great against the ChiComs but Biden is an unknown quantity. Let's
see.
### - biden is fairly typical of modern left-wing policy: center-left
with
fair-er shares for everyone kinda thing? (tony blair was similar for
example, but so central he was almost a right-winger lol, something
which
at the time caused me to call him: 'tory blur' haha)
Tony Blair was a fucking hypocrite - Bush's plaything in the post-9/11
wars, a yes man if ever there was one. We had such a cunt too, his
name was John Howard. Both consigned to the ash bin of history.
### - bush's poodle they accused him of being here haha... i saw it
another way though (possibly a bit romantically heh) of england in the
form of tory blur playing 'grand vizier' to the royal court of bush, an >experienced & wise advisor to them, who, for example, whispered in their
ear saying: yes go blow the shit outta sadam, but do it 'legally' with
rest of the world behind you is better than just acting unilaterally as
they were wont to actually do at the time! (it still turned out to be >completely unjustified as sadam didn't actually have any wmd's nor
anything to do with 9/11, but suited the US's purposes & plans for that
whole region, and which we all then subsequently witnessed as one muslim >nation after another was systematically dismantled and/or thrown into
chaos across the whole of the middle east, thus isolating iran; the seat
of islamic teaching, in the process...)
and if biden's not exactly that, then is at least heading/leaning in
that
direction as they always do if not of the too far-left... (Corbyn here
was
farther-left, which is why even his own party disapproved of him, the
loons!)
America will never, ever vote a far left polly in. That would be
tantamount to giving up to the Russians. There is too much water
under the bridge for that to ever happen.
Whereas here in Australia we have had moderate socialism of the same
order as you in the UK - good socialised medicine, excellent welfare
and so on. I think we modeled our Medicare system after the UK's if
I'm not mistaken, and it works wonderfully well.
### - that's a good point, that there are 'certain' things about it that's >obviously ok and even needed (they 'invented' the national health service >here after the 2nd world war for example, which is obviously a good thing! >even though they (the right) still bitch & moan about it costing them a >fortune and, more often than not, actively remove resources from it!
i mean yes it's costly! but is surely also a basic need like gas, water
and fucking electricity?? the wealthy still having bupa & private
insurance if they wanna have cherries on it; they can afford it!
am still hoping he'll win it though, if only as a protest-vote from a
populace fed up by now with the rantings & ravings of a lunatic?
methinks
they might be just a bit jaded with all that by now, what with covid on
top of all that too?
Oh there's not much wrong with Biden. He admitted to mistakes by him
and Obame in the last debate which was great - I always have a place
for anyone who can admit they were wrong (something I haven't seen you
do mate, even when you have been wrong lol).
### - ahaha :)))
well i'll offer you then the same opportunity i gave jeremy to please
provide concrete examples that *isn't* just a difference of opinion at the >time? (he came up with a list of about 7 such examples, all of which could
be instantly refuted for one perfectly valid reason or another, and where, >for example, i'd covered myself by admitting, at the time, that it was
only so in imho etc... that what he was actually angry about was the fact >that i seemed to be getting things rather correct on a regular basis >'in-spite' of his opinions to the contrary? to the point he started this >thing whereby "i'm always right and will never admit when am wrong" even >though he couldn't provide even one single concrete example of such??
so please provide a 'concrete' example of where i actually got something >'wrong' and i'll readily admit to it (i've never personally claimed to be >infallible, that was just jeremy accusing me of never being wrong etc etc)
I like Joe, I think he's ok if not a tad slow in memory - but what the
fuck, I'm going to be late-60's soon and my memories are all still
intact as far as I know, but it's a shitload slower retrieving them :)
### - having been in politics for the last 47 years he's a genuine
statesman in every sense of the word, whereas trumpy's just some recent >'businessman' without even a clue about politics?? hence he's a great >dictator but a lousy statesman as we've seen from his rather callous
actions towards his own people in their time of need...
plus no doubt trumpy's gonna make some big-deal outta the postal votes
if
On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 08:49:57 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 00:52:46 -0000, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 17:29:00 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 13:06:17 -0000, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 11:20:40 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 03:24:43 -0000, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm still here man, damn PC melted down so spent the last few days >>>>>>> rebuilding - I keep backups of my backups, but finding them,
correlating etc.
Give me a day or two and I'll be back. Well before the election... >>>>>>>
I intend to keep this place alive - call it a middle finger to the >>>>>>> dopes who didn't have the sauce to stay.
*They* know who they are :)
### - haha no problem, this election should be a bit of fun, some
drama
in
an otherwise really quite boring soap opera, the episode (in Dallas) >>>>>> where, hopefully, JR get's his arse kicked right down the road lol >>>>>> :)))
and then perforce there's the autopsy afterwards to look forward to >>>>>> as
well heh ;)
Yep <1 week and counting. Trump shows no nerves and Biden is keeping >>>>> a reasonably low profile because it's more than likely it's his
election to lose.
You can't just depend on CNN for news nor Fox - they slant apart,
left
to right as you might say. Biden is ahead on national and state
polls
but they have this thing called Electoral College where states like
California and Florida are worth much, much more than say North
Carolina. If Biden can turn Florida or Texas, he's probably got it
in
the bag.
The right wing is armed and ready. The left is armed and ready.
Americans killed over a million of their contrymen in the Civil War
and a hell of a lot of Brits in the War of Independence. They like
war and have no issue having it internally. It will be quite a
showdown on 3 November.
###b - that they 'like' war is an understatement lol :D
i.e., The US has Been at war 225 out of 243 years since 1776??
like it?? they fuckin' LOVE it! :D it's their modus-operandi!
"With an estimated 120.5 guns for every 100 residents, the firearm
ownership rate in the United States is twice that of the next-highest
nation, Yemen, with just 52.8 guns per 100 residents. In raw number
terms,
the closest country to the United States is India, with 71.1 million
firearms in circulation." (google)
I tend to agree. Many suppose Germany is a belligerent country but it
really only unified as Germany late 19thC and then was drawn into ww1
and as we know now the unfair Versailles settlement and theft of the
Ruhr etc by France led to WW2 and Hitler's opportunities in such a way
that WW2 is now seen, rightly so, as a continuation of WW1. Germany
is now pacifist in all meaningful ways.
### - correct imho... even to the point that any ww3 will likely just
be a
continuation of the first two as well in financial terms, germany now
pacifist to a point, of them cringing at even the very idea! (i.e., 70
years of the rest of the planet screaming in their ear & poking them
with
sticks re: you filthy fucking nazi bastards gassing the jews etc etc
etc;
a whole 2 generations of them living now with a genuine fear/phobia of
having anything whatsoever to even 'do' with war ever again!)
something that was clearly illustrated during the gulf war when saddam
hussain lobbed scud missiles at israel that were suspected of maybe
containing poison gas, whereon germany (who just so happens to be the
world's leading experts in gassing people + lol at the irony) was sent
for
to test for any gas but refused point blank to have anything to do with
it? the whole episode making them cringe at just the 'thought' of having
anything to with people being gassed lol (a cringe-factor of 100% lol)
were then turned upon and savaged by the rest of the world for being
cowards now for not wanting to get involved??? ahaha! :)))
Lol have you got some Jewish blood in you mate? Germans have done
well with integration and the ones I've run into overseas (young
tourists mainly) are gloriously well adjusted and rich, mate, rich.
Plenty of shekels (lol) to spend, just like retired old cunts like me
:)
Haven't seen many Brits or Irish overseas - methinks your people stick (actually, stuck) with Ibiza, Greece and all those nice places I
really wanted to visit this year, but Covid has fucked that right up
the arse!
Nevermind, this will all be over in a year or less. If we visit the
UK again, I'll let you know and if we're still on speaking terms,
perhaps we can catch up in real time.
Oh yeah, for cowardice, try the French. If Muzzie motherfuckers were
doing this shit in my country, they wouldn't be getting a little rap
on the knuckles like the French are doing. As I write this, a poor
Orhtodox minister has just been shotgunned by a terrorist in France.
What are those cowardly Frenchies going to do, when are they going to
get serious with these mongrels?
Russia much the same. Not at all imperialist or hegemonist in the
ways the US, England, France, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Germany and so
on have been in the past. Really the Sovs wanted a ring of buffer
states around them at the end of the day. Same can be said of China
which is mortally afraid of the US's power and wants buffer oceans
around them - they have so many border conflicts at the moment it's
ridiculous.
### - agreed, we've got them actively ring-fenced in that sense with
nukes
pointed right at them from all angles, and only being forced to
re-capture
crimea that time when their only port-access to the black sea was being
threatened (i.e., they'd been very successfully + peacefully leasing
that
port from ukraine right up until that point, plonkershenco; the pawn of
the west, constituting a direct threat to that access they really had no
other choice...)
Yes, they have few decent deep water ports (Vladivostok and that one
into the Barents Sea, I can't recall the name and can't be fucked
looking it up). And I agree about Ukraine, there has been so much
Russian blood spilt there in the two big wars (Crimean and 1942-1944
against the Hun, Italians and Romanians) - literally millions of
Russian dead, no kidding. They have a legitimate claim in my view.
But the Yanks. Worthy successors to England for hegemony and
expansion using the mighty dollar. War, war, war and more war. And
we, in Australia, are there with them all the way (our catchcry in the
Vietnam war - where there was only the US and Australia - was "All the
way with LBJ")
Nevertheless, the Yanks are the epicentre of democracy and on 3
November we will see that in action in a way in which it will never be
seen in China, Cuba, Russia, Belarus and the other hellish places
where authority rules and you can be killed simply for having a
different perspective on politics.
### - it's only a democracy so-called imho, because beneath the surface
it's not really nor actually a democracy at all, and in fact remains a
system of slaves & masters no matter how they paint it... that no matter
'who' (or what) those slave vote for; the masters always get in?
It's the best and fairest we have. All the other systems have been
tried and failed and most other systems when they are or have been
boiled down, are just autocracies or theocracies.
I'm all for it. I wouldn't exist for long in a dictatorship.
I for one will be glued to the TV. We in Australia are tied to the
fate of the Yanks far more than to the Brits. We owe the Yanks for
what they did in WW2 in the Pacific against the Samurai barbarians
and
since then we have been back to back with them in more wars than even >>>>> the Canadians. We're gonna need them against the ChiComs. Trump is >>>>> great against the ChiComs but Biden is an unknown quantity. Let's
see.
### - biden is fairly typical of modern left-wing policy: center-left
with
fair-er shares for everyone kinda thing? (tony blair was similar for
example, but so central he was almost a right-winger lol, something
which
at the time caused me to call him: 'tory blur' haha)
Tony Blair was a fucking hypocrite - Bush's plaything in the post-9/11
wars, a yes man if ever there was one. We had such a cunt too, his
name was John Howard. Both consigned to the ash bin of history.
### - bush's poodle they accused him of being here haha... i saw it
another way though (possibly a bit romantically heh) of england in the
form of tory blur playing 'grand vizier' to the royal court of bush, an
experienced & wise advisor to them, who, for example, whispered in their
ear saying: yes go blow the shit outta sadam, but do it 'legally' with
rest of the world behind you is better than just acting unilaterally as
they were wont to actually do at the time! (it still turned out to be
completely unjustified as sadam didn't actually have any wmd's nor
anything to do with 9/11, but suited the US's purposes & plans for that
whole region, and which we all then subsequently witnessed as one muslim
nation after another was systematically dismantled and/or thrown into
chaos across the whole of the middle east, thus isolating iran; the seat
of islamic teaching, in the process...)
Look I do believe Blair intended well at the outset but lost his moral compass and principles along the way. Bush for all his vagaries and
dumbkopf ways had a very strong personality like most in his family
and he fucking well got his way with Blair.
Try this:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/04/phone-call-bush-blair-failed-iraq
Nothing romantic there mate, nothing at all. Just one person
dominating the other.
and if biden's not exactly that, then is at least heading/leaning in
that
direction as they always do if not of the too far-left... (Corbyn here >>>> was
farther-left, which is why even his own party disapproved of him, the
loons!)
America will never, ever vote a far left polly in. That would be
tantamount to giving up to the Russians. There is too much water
under the bridge for that to ever happen.
Whereas here in Australia we have had moderate socialism of the same
order as you in the UK - good socialised medicine, excellent welfare
and so on. I think we modeled our Medicare system after the UK's if
I'm not mistaken, and it works wonderfully well.
### - that's a good point, that there are 'certain' things about it
that's
obviously ok and even needed (they 'invented' the national health
service
here after the 2nd world war for example, which is obviously a good
thing!
even though they (the right) still bitch & moan about it costing them a
fortune and, more often than not, actively remove resources from it!
i mean yes it's costly! but is surely also a basic need like gas, water
and fucking electricity?? the wealthy still having bupa & private
insurance if they wanna have cherries on it; they can afford it!
Fully agree. Moderate socialism is a good thing, communism,
On Sun, 01 Nov 2020 02:21:26 -0000, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
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wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 00:52:46 -0000, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 17:29:00 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 13:06:17 -0000, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 11:20:40 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 03:24:43 -0000, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm still here man, damn PC melted down so spent the last few days >>>>>>>> rebuilding - I keep backups of my backups, but finding them,
correlating etc.
Give me a day or two and I'll be back. Well before the election... >>>>>>>>
I intend to keep this place alive - call it a middle finger to the >>>>>>>> dopes who didn't have the sauce to stay.
*They* know who they are :)
### - haha no problem, this election should be a bit of fun, some >>>>>>> drama
in
an otherwise really quite boring soap opera, the episode (in Dallas) >>>>>>> where, hopefully, JR get's his arse kicked right down the road lol >>>>>>> :)))
and then perforce there's the autopsy afterwards to look forward to >>>>>>> as
well heh ;)
Yep <1 week and counting. Trump shows no nerves and Biden is keeping >>>>>> a reasonably low profile because it's more than likely it's his
election to lose.
You can't just depend on CNN for news nor Fox - they slant apart,
left
to right as you might say. Biden is ahead on national and state
polls
but they have this thing called Electoral College where states like >>>>>> California and Florida are worth much, much more than say North
Carolina. If Biden can turn Florida or Texas, he's probably got it >>>>>> in
the bag.
The right wing is armed and ready. The left is armed and ready.
Americans killed over a million of their contrymen in the Civil War >>>>>> and a hell of a lot of Brits in the War of Independence. They like >>>>>> war and have no issue having it internally. It will be quite a
showdown on 3 November.
###b - that they 'like' war is an understatement lol :D
i.e., The US has Been at war 225 out of 243 years since 1776??
like it?? they fuckin' LOVE it! :D it's their modus-operandi!
"With an estimated 120.5 guns for every 100 residents, the firearm
ownership rate in the United States is twice that of the next-highest >>>>> nation, Yemen, with just 52.8 guns per 100 residents. In raw number
terms,
the closest country to the United States is India, with 71.1 million >>>>> firearms in circulation." (google)
I tend to agree. Many suppose Germany is a belligerent country but it >>>> really only unified as Germany late 19thC and then was drawn into ww1
and as we know now the unfair Versailles settlement and theft of the
Ruhr etc by France led to WW2 and Hitler's opportunities in such a way >>>> that WW2 is now seen, rightly so, as a continuation of WW1. Germany
is now pacifist in all meaningful ways.
### - correct imho... even to the point that any ww3 will likely just
be a
continuation of the first two as well in financial terms, germany now
pacifist to a point, of them cringing at even the very idea! (i.e., 70
years of the rest of the planet screaming in their ear & poking them
with
sticks re: you filthy fucking nazi bastards gassing the jews etc etc
etc;
a whole 2 generations of them living now with a genuine fear/phobia of
having anything whatsoever to even 'do' with war ever again!)
something that was clearly illustrated during the gulf war when saddam
hussain lobbed scud missiles at israel that were suspected of maybe
containing poison gas, whereon germany (who just so happens to be the
world's leading experts in gassing people + lol at the irony) was sent
for
to test for any gas but refused point blank to have anything to do with
it? the whole episode making them cringe at just the 'thought' of having >>> anything to with people being gassed lol (a cringe-factor of 100% lol)
were then turned upon and savaged by the rest of the world for being
cowards now for not wanting to get involved??? ahaha! :)))
Lol have you got some Jewish blood in you mate? Germans have done
well with integration and the ones I've run into overseas (young
tourists mainly) are gloriously well adjusted and rich, mate, rich.
Plenty of shekels (lol) to spend, just like retired old cunts like me
:)
### - am just laffing at the irony of it haha, the fact they just so
happen to be experts in gas + the uncaring/spiteful reaction of the
community when they didn't wanna have anything to do with anyone being >gassed, especially the jews lol...
and yes some of 'em might be rich & happy or whatever, but you just test
them by offhandedly/casually mentioning something/anything to do with the >nazis, and then study/observe their reaction?? (they do have a reaction i >mean, often one of exasperation for example, they don't wanna know
anything about that anymore, totally fed up with all that, thus asking
them to then go to 'israel' and test for people being 'gassed' was just
too much to ask of them haha, they coudn't handle even being 'reminded' of >such things lol, and which then we poked them for again by calling them >cowards now! lol - wot, you germans got some kinda problem of going over
to 'israel' and testing to see if any of them 'jews' have been 'gassed'??
- what's your problem mate! it's only gas! don't be such cowards! haha,
and was imho very cruel of us really...)
Haven't seen many Brits or Irish overseas - methinks your people stick
(actually, stuck) with Ibiza, Greece and all those nice places I
really wanted to visit this year, but Covid has fucked that right up
the arse!
Nevermind, this will all be over in a year or less. If we visit the
UK again, I'll let you know and if we're still on speaking terms,
perhaps we can catch up in real time.
### - sounds good! although i seriously doubt this will be all over in a
year without some kinda genuine vaccine; our economies just can't survive >endless lockdowns like this, we'll all go bankrupt! and then what? martial >law??
Oh yeah, for cowardice, try the French. If Muzzie motherfuckers were
doing this shit in my country, they wouldn't be getting a little rap
on the knuckles like the French are doing. As I write this, a poor
Orhtodox minister has just been shotgunned by a terrorist in France.
What are those cowardly Frenchies going to do, when are they going to
get serious with these mongrels?
### - am also surprised they haven't really acted to date, the french are >actually quite racist and consequently it doesn't take much to get them
all riled up over shit like this, that what i was half-expecting the
'last' time was for them to suddenly round up every fucker and their >families/relations on their known/watched security risk-lists, and boot
them all right out of the country??
and they might still do precisely that yet! coz they're VERY angry at the >moment!
world pressure no doubt being the only thing that's holding them back?
(they don't want to be the first to do it is all)
Russia much the same. Not at all imperialist or hegemonist in the
ways the US, England, France, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Germany and so
on have been in the past. Really the Sovs wanted a ring of buffer
states around them at the end of the day. Same can be said of China
which is mortally afraid of the US's power and wants buffer oceans
around them - they have so many border conflicts at the moment it's
ridiculous.
### - agreed, we've got them actively ring-fenced in that sense with
nukes
pointed right at them from all angles, and only being forced to
re-capture
crimea that time when their only port-access to the black sea was being
threatened (i.e., they'd been very successfully + peacefully leasing
that
port from ukraine right up until that point, plonkershenco; the pawn of
the west, constituting a direct threat to that access they really had no >>> other choice...)
Yes, they have few decent deep water ports (Vladivostok and that one
into the Barents Sea, I can't recall the name and can't be fucked
looking it up). And I agree about Ukraine, there has been so much
Russian blood spilt there in the two big wars (Crimean and 1942-1944
against the Hun, Italians and Romanians) - literally millions of
Russian dead, no kidding. They have a legitimate claim in my view.
### - on that port in the crimea at any rate, else it would have been like >having a limb removed + yet another encroachment upon them by nato etc... >they saw it as a forced move, had no other choice etc (thus i was talking >about chess games at the time)
But the Yanks. Worthy successors to England for hegemony and
expansion using the mighty dollar. War, war, war and more war. And
we, in Australia, are there with them all the way (our catchcry in the >>>> Vietnam war - where there was only the US and Australia - was "All the >>>> way with LBJ")
Nevertheless, the Yanks are the epicentre of democracy and on 3
November we will see that in action in a way in which it will never be >>>> seen in China, Cuba, Russia, Belarus and the other hellish places
where authority rules and you can be killed simply for having a
different perspective on politics.
### - it's only a democracy so-called imho, because beneath the surface
it's not really nor actually a democracy at all, and in fact remains a
system of slaves & masters no matter how they paint it... that no matter >>> 'who' (or what) those slave vote for; the masters always get in?
It's the best and fairest we have. All the other systems have been
tried and failed and most other systems when they are or have been
boiled down, are just autocracies or theocracies.
I'm all for it. I wouldn't exist for long in a dictatorship.
### - that's hardly the point though is it heh, granted a comfortable
prison is better than a more uncomfortable one, but it's still a prison >nonetheless? a very cruel one for the vast majority of humanity...
I for one will be glued to the TV. We in Australia are tied to the >>>>>> fate of the Yanks far more than to the Brits. We owe the Yanks for >>>>>> what they did in WW2 in the Pacific against the Samurai barbarians >>>>>> and
Lol have you got some Jewish blood in you mate? Germans have done
well with integration and the ones I've run into overseas (young
tourists mainly) are gloriously well adjusted and rich, mate, rich.
Plenty of shekels (lol) to spend, just like retired old cunts like me
:)
### - am just laffing at the irony of it haha, the fact they just so
happen to be experts in gas + the uncaring/spiteful reaction of the
community when they didn't wanna have anything to do with anyone being
gassed, especially the jews lol...
Agreed, the population in general was complicit. The excuse "we
didn't know" hardly washes when the townspeople of Dachau were forced
to walk through the decaying body pieces and human shrapnel by the
stern and horrified yanks. It's a German thing.
and yes some of 'em might be rich & happy or whatever, but you just test
them by offhandedly/casually mentioning something/anything to do with
the
nazis, and then study/observe their reaction?? (they do have a reaction
i
mean, often one of exasperation for example, they don't wanna know
anything about that anymore, totally fed up with all that, thus asking
them to then go to 'israel' and test for people being 'gassed' was just
too much to ask of them haha, they coudn't handle even being 'reminded'
of
such things lol, and which then we poked them for again by calling them
cowards now! lol - wot, you germans got some kinda problem of going over
to 'israel' and testing to see if any of them 'jews' have been
'gassed'??
- what's your problem mate! it's only gas! don't be such cowards! haha,
and was imho very cruel of us really...)
Oh many, if not most, are "rich & happy". They are a very efficient
race like most Nordic peoples and make short shrift of engineering and
design excellence - still the most highly industrialised country in
Europe and the first to turn to renewable energy and turn away from
nuclear power. They are huge in pharmaceuticals as well and smart -
4th strongest economy in the world I believe.
Interesting about your testing them? Have you done that? I think
that they are proud of their militaristic history which extends way
back to Roman times when they destroyed the three best legions Rome
possessed at the time - the so called Varian catastrophe. The Romans
then built a wall to keep them out and hired germans as personal
bodyguards for the emperors. I think that they might pretend to be
horrified at their Nazi history, but in reality, innermost thoughts
are of pride not shame. I've known a few Germans and that's the way
they are.
On the other hand, there are many, many people even now in *all*
western countries who regard anyone with gold or silver in their name
as somewhat suspect :)
Haven't seen many Brits or Irish overseas - methinks your people stick
(actually, stuck) with Ibiza, Greece and all those nice places I
really wanted to visit this year, but Covid has fucked that right up
the arse!
Nevermind, this will all be over in a year or less. If we visit the
UK again, I'll let you know and if we're still on speaking terms,
perhaps we can catch up in real time.
### - sounds good! although i seriously doubt this will be all over in a
year without some kinda genuine vaccine; our economies just can't
survive
endless lockdowns like this, we'll all go bankrupt! and then what?
martial
law??
I've just been emailing a cousin of my wife's in California who was
(retired now) a scientist in QC in the biomedical field - making
diagnostic chips for global export. He's following the science of
this mutating monster and he firmly believes that major progress is
being made on the vaccine front. I think that even a vaccine will be analogous to the flu shot because this thing mutates all the time,
just like the flu. I think it will be around forever, but like a
background flu or cold virus.
We'll travel again. I want to go to Europe, particularly Greek
islands, Bavaria, Barcelona and perhaps back to Italy again (I've done
the grand tour of Europe but missed those places). Possbily Croatia
as well, maybe Romania. I wasn't enamoured of the UK, I thought I got
a whiff of violence in the pubs we went to while we were there, muchos skinheads then and alot of "You lookin' at me Jimmy?" bullshit. The
Nandos was good though - I've eaten that all over the world :)
Oh yeah, for cowardice, try the French. If Muzzie motherfuckers were
doing this shit in my country, they wouldn't be getting a little rap
on the knuckles like the French are doing. As I write this, a poor
Orhtodox minister has just been shotgunned by a terrorist in France.
What are those cowardly Frenchies going to do, when are they going to
get serious with these mongrels?
### - am also surprised they haven't really acted to date, the french
are
actually quite racist and consequently it doesn't take much to get them
all riled up over shit like this, that what i was half-expecting the
'last' time was for them to suddenly round up every fucker and their
families/relations on their known/watched security risk-lists, and boot
them all right out of the country??
I guess it's their karma associated with their imperialist colonialist
days - Algerian muslims and so on coming home to roost. Sooner or
later they will get sick of being attacked though...
and they might still do precisely that yet! coz they're VERY angry at
the
moment!
world pressure no doubt being the only thing that's holding them back?
(they don't want to be the first to do it is all)
Russia much the same. Not at all imperialist or hegemonist in the
ways the US, England, France, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Germany and so >>>>> on have been in the past. Really the Sovs wanted a ring of buffer
states around them at the end of the day. Same can be said of China >>>>> which is mortally afraid of the US's power and wants buffer oceans
around them - they have so many border conflicts at the moment it's
ridiculous.
### - agreed, we've got them actively ring-fenced in that sense with
nukes
pointed right at them from all angles, and only being forced to
re-capture
crimea that time when their only port-access to the black sea was
being
threatened (i.e., they'd been very successfully + peacefully leasing
that
port from ukraine right up until that point, plonkershenco; the pawn
of
the west, constituting a direct threat to that access they really had
no
other choice...)
Yes, they have few decent deep water ports (Vladivostok and that one
into the Barents Sea, I can't recall the name and can't be fucked
looking it up). And I agree about Ukraine, there has been so much
Russian blood spilt there in the two big wars (Crimean and 1942-1944
against the Hun, Italians and Romanians) - literally millions of
Russian dead, no kidding. They have a legitimate claim in my view.
### - on that port in the crimea at any rate, else it would have been
like
having a limb removed + yet another encroachment upon them by nato
etc...
they saw it as a forced move, had no other choice etc (thus i was
talking
about chess games at the time)
The entirety is theirs if they want, through to Kiev. Russians know
how to fight. Of the 20 million or so Germans who fought and died in
WW2, 17 million fought on the eastern front, along with millions of Rumanians, Italians and a whole slew of anti-bolshevik volunteers from practically every state in Europe. The Russians still won and in
fact, won WW2 in Europe.
I still don't like Russians but they, like the Hun, know how to fight
and how to die.
But the Yanks. Worthy successors to England for hegemony and
expansion using the mighty dollar. War, war, war and more war. And >>>>> we, in Australia, are there with them all the way (our catchcry in
the
Vietnam war - where there was only the US and Australia - was "All
the
way with LBJ")
Nevertheless, the Yanks are the epicentre of democracy and on 3
November we will see that in action in a way in which it will never
be
seen in China, Cuba, Russia, Belarus and the other hellish places
where authority rules and you can be killed simply for having a
different perspective on politics.
### - it's only a democracy so-called imho, because beneath the
surface
it's not really nor actually a democracy at all, and in fact remains a >>>> system of slaves & masters no matter how they paint it... that no
matter
'who' (or what) those slave vote for; the masters always get in?
It's the best and fairest we have. All the other systems have been
tried and failed and most other systems when they are or have been
boiled down, are just autocracies or theocracies.
I'm all for it. I wouldn't exist for long in a dictatorship.
### - that's hardly the point though is it heh, granted a comfortable
prison is better than a more uncomfortable one, but it's still a prison
nonetheless? a very cruel one for the vast majority of humanity...
Well it is the point, to me. My type is killed in dictatorships -
when I worked, I worked for myself, I don't like being a slave to
anyone and my ideas are mine, and no one will tell me while I'm
vertical how or what to think or do. I would be rooted out and killed
in Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia or North Korea.
I know what you're trying to say but I don't agree. I think we are by
and large, in the west, the most liberated we have ever been, in
history. Surveillance is everywhere, I know, but easy to beat,
especially with COVID when masks are commonplace and VPN's are cheap.
I don't seen any cage around me either physical or metaphorical. I
can do what I want, when I want providing I don't hurt anyone or
impinge on *their* freedoms.
I think this is one of the best times in human history to be alive, if
one lives in the west (remember Jim, he sang "the West is the Best")
Look I do believe Blair intended well at the outset but lost his moral
compass and principles along the way. Bush for all his vagaries and
dumbkopf ways had a very strong personality like most in his family
Nature is perfectly in balance all the way down and up, through
regions and levels we can't even guess at let alone peer at. Nature
is the true god infinite and eternal.
### - if you 'need' there to be a 'god' then yes, Nature fits the bill
perfectly...
No I don't need there to be a god. I didn't mean that, I was alluding
to most people's desire for there to be a god when it's patently
obvious there isn't or if there is, it is unknowable and probably
uncaring and therefore the same as non-existent. I was simply saying
that it should be good enough for anyone to just look out and
comtemplate cosmos and look in and contemplate self and look around
and contemplate life and nature on terra - who *needs* a god?
the whole thing is... 'alive' - and does actually respond to us if we
can
be bothered to communicate with it (not in rational terms but in
actual/practical terms...)
Well, the whole thing is us too - the parts are indivisible from the
whole and nothing is separate.
I pride myself on always behaving as
rationally as I can, bearing in mind I'm just a recently evolved
primate with a lot of atavistic luggage to carry around - but I can't
see any way that I would still be alive if I didn't behave rationally
(except when I have well defined sessions where I let loose and have
some bubbly with dope and loosen up for a while and listen to loud
music and dance with my missus and so on). Are you trying to say that
one should occasionally regard nature in a non-analytical way? Just
sit back and don't think?
I'm always surprised that many people can't see this self-evident
fact. One needs a view of nature unburdened with sentimentality and >>>>> belief in tooth fairies and gods and all that junk - then reality
comes plainly into view.
### - that's totally correct imho... the human race is living in their >>>> very own little bubble of self-constructed + invented reality which
they've superimposed upon the greater background reality that all the
rest
of nature is still in contact directly with... we're a maladjusted
species
heh ;)
Yes but we are a very, very young species. I collect trilobites -
they were around for 250 million years and went extinct (as all
species do, with the possible exception of man) in the Permian, so
long ago dinosaurs weren't even a figment of a dream of an
hallucination.
That was an old lineage when it went extinct, after quarter of a
billion years. We've been around for a quarter of one percent of that
time - we're pretty damn young and as for all young things, we have
the very best ahead of us.
But then again, I'm an incurable optimist.
### - in truth, there's only ever been the 'one' single species existing
here, the same single entity/life-form from which everything else has
evolved, ever more complex expressions of itself all the way up from
single cell to us - is pretty mind blowing really! - that we are all
truly
related on this planet from the bottom to the top! (genetically speaking
we're 98% chimpanzee for example, which sounds cool until you consider
that we're also 50% cabbage haha...)
Well there's no proof and never will be that life didn't occur
spontaneously in several places on this big planet. Perhaps it did,
in which case we aren't all the offspring of some prime cell or living particle.
the whole world is thus rigged to work & function in a very certain >>>>>> +
specific way that ultimately stinks to high heaven...
You mean "human world" - nature generated our species and when we
are
extinct, whether it be in 50 years or 50,000,000 years, we won't be
missed by nature at all.
### - yes, the human world, the 'false' human world that flies in the
face
of nature as it really is and has always been... the human race not
giving
2-shits for how nature 'wants' to be, we've got our own ideas which,
coincidentally, results in us directly destroying nature! (i mean,
what
more proof do we need that we need to change our ways??)
There's nothing false about anything. It is what it is, all the way.
Even lies are part of reality, the lie itself, not the subject matter
of the lie.
We're young species and like most young things, we're insanely
egocentric. Babies don't give a fuck about anyone or anything else
than themselves. We're a baby species. Give us time.
### - by false am referring to the 'humanly conceived' ideas of society
and civilisation; our own projected thoughts and ideas that we
exclusively
relate to 'more' than we relate to the underlying reality that all the
rest of nature still retains an awareness of and relates directly to...
there is a difference...
like children, yes, we live in our own little version of the world and
dumbly (i.e., unquestioningly) relate exclusively to it in exactly the
same way a child relates to santa clause and the tooth fairy: no less
than
just adult versions thereof!
I don't agree and nor would the simply amazing engineers who just
landed a "projection" of ourselves on Bennu, an asteroid, to see if it carries the ingredients for life. It's on the way back now with its
payload. What interesting times we live in.
that that's the bit we haven't (as a species) quite grasped as yet, that
just because as adults we grew out of believing in santa, that didn't
stop
us from still applying that very same formula/belief to everything else
we
then do (iow: we didn't grow up at all lol, we merely exchanged santa
and
the tooth fairy for something more adult to believe in instead hehe)
Oh come on, there are hundreds of millions of rational sceptics like
me who have no such beliefs and I reckon that of the religious and
pious, there is a sizable fraction which only believes such in public
or for networking purposes. I think what you've said is a big
generalisation - I never even believed in santa, even as a child I
knew it was bullshit.
There are many like me.
that IF there's a 'god' up there, he must be choking on the fumes of >>>>>> it
all by now heh ;)
There's no "up" to start with. We're just a blip on the screen, an
outlier even in this pretty ordinary galaxy we're gravitationally
bound to. There definitely isn't a god in the way we imagine it to
be. Most people, deep deep down, know this.
### - was really only speaking rhetorically hehe, and just a little
humour
on my part with the emphasis on "IF" in capital letters hah, because
imho
we're totally alone with not even 'aliens' to help us hah! (fuckin'
aliens!? lol, riiiiight... and coz just look at the damnable state of
us
and our world if *they've* been guiding us??? lol fuck off with their
aliens shit! - aliens?? riiiiight... ahaha... sorry folks but there
ain't
no stinkin' aliens! okaaaay? fuckin' aliens! gimmie a break!)
But you don't know if there are any aliens. No one does. That's an
opinion you're expressing not a fact. We don't have the facts.
### - am not saying/suggesting that life only exists here in the
universe,
it would be ridiculous to think that, not to mention incredibly
egotistical as in when we used to believe the sun orbited the earth lol!
that if life exists 'here' then chances are it exists everywhere! but as
to 'aliens' furtively visiting us in their fuckin' flying saucers?? am
just not into all that haha (imho it's bs)
I think it was only Kenneth Arnold back in the day who coined the
term. Most of these objects don't look like saucers at all. And a
good proportion simply cannot be explained.
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