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China has one big achilles heel. It is decades behind the US in
design and manufacture of very sophisticated silicon chiips and they >>>>> depend on imports from the US, Taiwan, South Korea and Japan who are >>>>> all more successful in this area.
Now the US is starting to strangle the ChiCom ability to purchase
these chips. That is a very big weakness indeed.
### - agreed, but they're catching up real fast! and that's a big-big
problem for the west...
Not in chips. They don't even have decent foundries. They are
decades behind and war is close.
### - oh they're modern enough to lob quite a few fancy nukes in our
direction should the need ever arise, china isn't some tin-pot wannabe
nuclear nation like north korea or iran ya know? i mean, long gone are
the
days when we british could just bombard them with impunity into
submission
from the sea hah! if we tried that shit today there'd be a very hefty
price to pay in terms of retaliation, just one well-aimed missile with
multiple warheads would flatten the uk forever!
Even the NK can make nukes, they have been around since 1945. That
doesn't take modern chip technology at all even in ICBM's because
inertial guided missiles have been around for a long time before
modern chip foundries and assoc tech. The Chinese are nowhere near
the Yanks or the Taiwanese or the Japs or South Koreans in chip tech,
they are decades behind. This is why the US export controls are
crippling Huawai.
And I don't think the Chicoms have MIRV technology - perhaps it's only
one warhead per rocket.
### - if you honestly think china only has 300 nukes and are
technologically poor you're crazy!?
like, didn't they just send a rover to the moon or something?? (fucking
thing broke down after only 20 minutes lol, probably due to moon dust, but
they did actually land one on the moon quite successfully!)
i mean, how many 'trillions' of american debt does china currently
hold
for example? lol
Not a problem for the Yanks who can just print more money and degrade
the value of those holdings.
### - true... but would also devalue the dollar for themselves in the
process too, to the point that $1000 prolly wouldn't even buy ya a
single
loaf of bread! deflation! (iow: you can only go so far with that shit
before your own economy collapses no?)
No that's not how it works. By devaluing the $ exports increase and
wealth increases. This counteracts any tendency towards inflation. A purposeful increase in money supply can put China down but will not be
seen by the markets to be overly damaging to the US economy. It is a
big weapon which has not yet been wielded by the Yanks but has in fact
been used by China.
### - while the west was crashing back in 2008, and ever since, china has
been growing steadily all along? they can 'afford' to buy up trillions of american debt 'was' the point?? and are set to become the richest nation
on the planet if nothing stops them! (which is precisely why we're trying
to stop them!)
in another 30 or 50 years they'll just call in the debt and own
america!
The ChiCOms don't have the luxury of time.
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/china-forces-on-high-alert-after-u-s-warship-sails-near-taiwan
### - and thus they're preparing for an assault upon them by claiming
these important + strategic waterways in a counter-attempt to even the
score that 'we' have un-evened by encroaching upon them!
Nope, the Chinese are bullies who started the pandemic and they need
to be taken down a few sizes. In the coming war the US and its allies
will prevail. Nukes will not be used for the obvious reason (that the Chinese nation will become a radioactive wasteland for the next 100000 years). China will sue for peace but there is a danger that they will
not accept the peace conditions like Germany after WW1 and futher conflagration will take place down track.
But there will be war.
### - any 'overt' war with china will inevitably lead to all-out nuclear
war...
think of it this way: if 'china' won the conventional war with the US do
ya really think the US would just roll over now??
forget it, they'd never accept it + long before it ever came to that
they'd be nuking china with everything its gots!
thus war with them is inevitable unless the west can change its world
domination agenda to something else and, perhaps, persuade china to do >>>> something similar? (why can't we all just get along?? hah!)
else they're quite content to just keep growing and growing while
western
economies shrink away, they don't 'need' to start a war except in
defense
of their sovereign rights!
They have already started the war. Soon, the US will finish it.
### - i don't agree that they started it, any more than they started a
war
with the british that time, rather it's completely the other way around
as
we (the west) encroach upon them by sending warships to sail past them?
they've seen that shit before lol only this time they're better prepared
to defend themselves! we're actively provoking them! and have, for
example, already initiated a trade war with them! (trade wars have
always
been a prelude to war no? well we've started it then no?)
The two circumstances are totally different. Now the Chinese are
trying to close or control shipping lanes which service half the
world. The US did that to Japan and WW2 in the Pacific ensued. Now
it's the Chicoms under that flat faced gook bastard Jiping ping pong
who are doing it and I guarantee they will get pasted for doing it and
Jipong ping ding dong will get hung as a war criminal. Good. I hope
the telecast it live on TV.
### - you're dreaming hehe, trying to be deliberately offensive no?
iow: you're being like a trump supporter denying the virus is even real!
problem is, with china we're treading on the tail of a tiger lol, and
who
knows when one of those things will finally lose its temper and take a >>>> swipe at what's been irritating it for so long huh...
a war with china is just not viable, no one could possibly win a war
of
that magnitude, everyone would lose! lose everything! so it's not an
option, that is unless one is totally insane and/or suicidal hah!
It probably won't go nuclear so it will be worth fighting.
### - oh ho ho! (i have to laugh heh) because going nuclear is
'inevitable' if/when either side thinks they're going to lose a more
conventional war? no one will be prepared to give in and thus things
will
unavoidably escalate to that level! that even if we strike first we wont
possibly escape the massive retaliation that will immediately follow!
and
because we've all got enough weapons, each, to flatten the entire world
many times over?
Nonsense. It is highly unlikely that major powers will make nuclear
war against each other. They only full well know the consequences for themselves - M.A.D.
It's more likely that India/Pak or NK/SK or Iran/Israel will launch a
few nukes if threates become existential. That won't destroy our civilisation but it will put a dent in it.
Your logic is a little bit faulty. Because they exist doesn't mean
they will be used. They have been around now for 75 years and haven't
been used since the end of WW2. They keep the balance.
### - MAD was founded on the profound realisation that there's no such
thing as a winnable nuclear war! once something like that even 'starts' everyone end's up going all-in in a use-it or lose-it type scenario that eventually kills everyone, and the planet to boot!
"Mutually Assured Destruction" (MAD) was the only thing (the only
realisation) that stopped the US & russia destroying each other no? so
do
ya really think it's any different now with china??
China has only about 300 nukes. Transit time for a SLBM from an Ohio
class boomer near Guam is only a few minutes, not enough time to
launch. In other words, the Yanks could take out practically every
one of those weapons before they could be launched.
### - that's just ridiculous lol, china has it's own satellites and early warning systems too, launch on them and even though they'll be destroyed they'll have fired-off everything they gots before they even start landing there, the land mass of china being just too big to hit it everywhere all
at once in order to stop them responding... plus it's the same with russia
even though they're totally surrounded on all sides by nuclear forces...
Then China would be at the Americans' mercy ready to be occupied by
Japan and the US.
### - there wouldn't BE an america left to occupy anything! they'd be too
busy just trying to survive themselves, you're dreaming again :)))
with all the resources running out we actually need to learn to share?
Give it another few thousand years of evolution and see what happens.
### - only if we survive as a species for that long!?
i.e., it takes about a million years for nature to evolve just one
change,
the best we could hope for in only a 1000 years or so being to maybe
stop
getting wisdom teeth lol, although having access to knives & forks did
apparently go towards people have a shorter lower jaw haha...
mind you, with all that increased background radiation things might
indeed
have been speeded up a bit no? cell mutation (cancer) becoming rife in
the
world today because of it!
(well they always 'did' say that 2 heads are better than one didn't
they??
lol... silly joke)
Evolution doesn't only occur due to radiation banging about DNA. It
can occur due to adaptation as well. So if the environment changes
quickly, then adaptation takes place and evolution occurs quickly
(say, over thousands of years). Nothing changes the environment like
humans and therefore it can be expected that our evolution will be (or
is being) speeded up.
### - adaptation is a very slow process, i.e., don't adapt fast enough and
you become extinct, game over, something which has already happened to 99%
of all the creatures that have ever lived! lol we might not even make it through this simple pandemic for example without encountering a total
economic collapse scenario, that's how tenuous our situation really is,
and has been all along...
The next human species might be among us right now. Realising what
homo sapiens did to neanderthal man, there would be no reason for the
next human species to announce its arrival.
It might then just wipe us out or it might be "woke" and let us
survive. Who knows.
### - we talked about this before, and have called that future man 'homo acutus'
i.e.,
Acuere (Latin) means to make sharp, pointed, penetrative. Acutus is simply
the perfect participle. Acumen derived from same root. The meaning is then transferred to someone's intellect. Compare "clever" - to cleave, to cut;
i.e.; to have the mother-wit to cut through all the crap and appreciate
the situation as it really is.
iow: he wont be 'killing' anything, there wont be any need to! he'll
arrive (if he hasn't already) and gradually replace everyone with a higher expression, he'll be beyond crude wars per se and have totally different
goals to the completely materialistic ones we only know of today...
that what we call 'wise masters of wisdom' today will become the norm
tomorrow!
if we don't all die in a nuclear war first that is ;)
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