• Re: I call this treason (2/2)

    From slider@1:229/2 to thangolossus@gmail.com on Friday, October 16, 2020 16:39:28
    [continued from previous message]

    dialogue & negotiation begins: the only thing that can possibly save the
    world!

    Agreed.

    ### - am glad you agree, because the 'left' is where all the intelligence
    is and/or ultimately derives from; art, literature, poetry, the deep
    thinkers and innovators etc etc, all coming expressly from the left from
    people who know (who have some idea then) what 'freedom' means because
    they come from a oppressed class where they feel anything 'but' free?





    back in the dark ages lol :)))

    Nothing to do with this traitor. Can't see the connection.

    ### - my fault perhaps for jumping to blaming trumpy by comparing him
    to
    stalin and what stalin then did to do everything he could to 'remain'
    in
    power... and because this is what the right-wing always does to
    eliminate
    the competition by demonising them... that they prolly knew about this >>>> nano-dude all along but now's a good time to make an example of him as >>>> part of the anti-chinese build-up: we've caught one! (a traitor) and
    there'll be more to follow! now who's next??

    that there are very clear parallels between what stalin did to remain
    in
    power and what thumpy's now doing to remain in power, this
    scientist-dude
    being held-up as a graphic example of what's going on right under our
    moses and that has to be eliminated in order to make america great
    again
    etc etc...

    i mean, i dunno who this scientist dude really is and could actually
    care
    less, it just seems very timely with the current anti-chinese climate
    he's
    trying to stir up is all, everyone systematically being forced to
    assert
    their political intentions when scientists are supposed to be
    objectively
    A-political... in which case i don't trust it! (nano-dude may or may
    not
    actually be a traitor, but once you start using terms 'like' traitor
    it's
    a slippery-slope down back into the dark ages again... and that's why
    i
    don't trust it...)

    China has one big achilles heel. It is decades behind the US in
    design and manufacture of very sophisticated silicon chiips and they
    depend on imports from the US, Taiwan, South Korea and Japan who are
    all more successful in this area.

    Now the US is starting to strangle the ChiCom ability to purchase
    these chips. That is a very big weakness indeed.

    ### - agreed, but they're catching up real fast! and that's a big-big
    problem for the west...

    Not in chips. They don't even have decent foundries. They are
    decades behind and war is close.

    ### - oh they're modern enough to lob quite a few fancy nukes in our
    direction should the need ever arise, china isn't some tin-pot wannabe
    nuclear nation like north korea or iran ya know? i mean, long gone are the
    days when we british could just bombard them with impunity into submission
    from the sea hah! if we tried that shit today there'd be a very hefty
    price to pay in terms of retaliation, just one well-aimed missile with
    multiple warheads would flatten the uk forever!




    i mean, how many 'trillions' of american debt does china currently hold
    for example? lol

    Not a problem for the Yanks who can just print more money and degrade
    the value of those holdings.

    ### - true... but would also devalue the dollar for themselves in the
    process too, to the point that $1000 prolly wouldn't even buy ya a single
    loaf of bread! deflation! (iow: you can only go so far with that shit
    before your own economy collapses no?)





    in another 30 or 50 years they'll just call in the debt and own america!

    The ChiCOms don't have the luxury of time.

    https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/china-forces-on-high-alert-after-u-s-warship-sails-near-taiwan

    ### - and thus they're preparing for an assault upon them by claiming
    these important + strategic waterways in a counter-attempt to even the
    score that 'we' have un-evened by encroaching upon them!





    thus war with them is inevitable unless the west can change its world
    domination agenda to something else and, perhaps, persuade china to do
    something similar? (why can't we all just get along?? hah!)

    else they're quite content to just keep growing and growing while
    western
    economies shrink away, they don't 'need' to start a war except in
    defense
    of their sovereign rights!

    They have already started the war. Soon, the US will finish it.

    ### - i don't agree that they started it, any more than they started a war
    with the british that time, rather it's completely the other way around as
    we (the west) encroach upon them by sending warships to sail past them?
    they've seen that shit before lol only this time they're better prepared
    to defend themselves! we're actively provoking them! and have, for
    example, already initiated a trade war with them! (trade wars have always
    been a prelude to war no? well we've started it then no?)




    problem is, with china we're treading on the tail of a tiger lol, and
    who
    knows when one of those things will finally lose its temper and take a
    swipe at what's been irritating it for so long huh...

    a war with china is just not viable, no one could possibly win a war of
    that magnitude, everyone would lose! lose everything! so it's not an
    option, that is unless one is totally insane and/or suicidal hah!

    It probably won't go nuclear so it will be worth fighting.

    ### - oh ho ho! (i have to laugh heh) because going nuclear is
    'inevitable' if/when either side thinks they're going to lose a more conventional war? no one will be prepared to give in and thus things will unavoidably escalate to that level! that even if we strike first we wont possibly escape the massive retaliation that will immediately follow! and because we've all got enough weapons, each, to flatten the entire world
    many times over?

    "Mutually Assured Destruction" (MAD) was the only thing (the only
    realisation) that stopped the US & russia destroying each other no? so do
    ya really think it's any different now with china??




    with all the resources running out we actually need to learn to share?

    Give it another few thousand years of evolution and see what happens.

    ### - only if we survive as a species for that long!?

    i.e., it takes about a million years for nature to evolve just one change,
    the best we could hope for in only a 1000 years or so being to maybe stop getting wisdom teeth lol, although having access to knives & forks did apparently go towards people have a shorter lower jaw haha...

    mind you, with all that increased background radiation things might indeed
    have been speeded up a bit no? cell mutation (cancer) becoming rife in the world today because of it!

    (well they always 'did' say that 2 heads are better than one didn't they?? lol... silly joke)






    and if humanity ain't BIG enough to do that... well...

    we all know what follows...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From slider@1:229/2 to thangolossus@gmail.com on Friday, October 16, 2020 16:39:28
    [continued from previous message]

    ### - am glad you agree, because the 'left' is where all the intelligence
    is and/or ultimately derives from; art, literature, poetry, the deep
    thinkers and innovators etc etc, all coming expressly from the left from
    people who know (who have some idea then) what 'freedom' means because
    they come from a oppressed class where they feel anything 'but' free?





    back in the dark ages lol :)))

    Nothing to do with this traitor. Can't see the connection.

    ### - my fault perhaps for jumping to blaming trumpy by comparing him
    to
    stalin and what stalin then did to do everything he could to 'remain'
    in
    power... and because this is what the right-wing always does to
    eliminate
    the competition by demonising them... that they prolly knew about this >>>> nano-dude all along but now's a good time to make an example of him as >>>> part of the anti-chinese build-up: we've caught one! (a traitor) and
    there'll be more to follow! now who's next??

    that there are very clear parallels between what stalin did to remain
    in
    power and what thumpy's now doing to remain in power, this
    scientist-dude
    being held-up as a graphic example of what's going on right under our
    moses and that has to be eliminated in order to make america great
    again
    etc etc...

    i mean, i dunno who this scientist dude really is and could actually
    care
    less, it just seems very timely with the current anti-chinese climate
    he's
    trying to stir up is all, everyone systematically being forced to
    assert
    their political intentions when scientists are supposed to be
    objectively
    A-political... in which case i don't trust it! (nano-dude may or may
    not
    actually be a traitor, but once you start using terms 'like' traitor
    it's
    a slippery-slope down back into the dark ages again... and that's why
    i
    don't trust it...)

    China has one big achilles heel. It is decades behind the US in
    design and manufacture of very sophisticated silicon chiips and they
    depend on imports from the US, Taiwan, South Korea and Japan who are
    all more successful in this area.

    Now the US is starting to strangle the ChiCom ability to purchase
    these chips. That is a very big weakness indeed.

    ### - agreed, but they're catching up real fast! and that's a big-big
    problem for the west...

    Not in chips. They don't even have decent foundries. They are
    decades behind and war is close.

    ### - oh they're modern enough to lob quite a few fancy nukes in our
    direction should the need ever arise, china isn't some tin-pot wannabe
    nuclear nation like north korea or iran ya know? i mean, long gone are the
    days when we british could just bombard them with impunity into submission
    from the sea hah! if we tried that shit today there'd be a very hefty
    price to pay in terms of retaliation, just one well-aimed missile with
    multiple warheads would flatten the uk forever!




    i mean, how many 'trillions' of american debt does china currently hold
    for example? lol

    Not a problem for the Yanks who can just print more money and degrade
    the value of those holdings.

    ### - true... but would also devalue the dollar for themselves in the
    process too, to the point that $1000 prolly wouldn't even buy ya a single
    loaf of bread! deflation! (iow: you can only go so far with that shit
    before your own economy collapses no?)





    in another 30 or 50 years they'll just call in the debt and own america!

    The ChiCOms don't have the luxury of time.

    https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/china-forces-on-high-alert-after-u-s-warship-sails-near-taiwan

    ### - and thus they're preparing for an assault upon them by claiming
    these important + strategic waterways in a counter-attempt to even the
    score that 'we' have un-evened by encroaching upon them!





    thus war with them is inevitable unless the west can change its world
    domination agenda to something else and, perhaps, persuade china to do
    something similar? (why can't we all just get along?? hah!)

    else they're quite content to just keep growing and growing while
    western
    economies shrink away, they don't 'need' to start a war except in
    defense
    of their sovereign rights!

    They have already started the war. Soon, the US will finish it.

    ### - i don't agree that they started it, any more than they started a war
    with the british that time, rather it's completely the other way around as
    we (the west) encroach upon them by sending warships to sail past them?
    they've seen that shit before lol only this time they're better prepared
    to defend themselves! we're actively provoking them! and have, for
    example, already initiated a trade war with them! (trade wars have always
    been a prelude to war no? well we've started it then no?)




    problem is, with china we're treading on the tail of a tiger lol, and
    who
    knows when one of those things will finally lose its temper and take a
    swipe at what's been irritating it for so long huh...

    a war with china is just not viable, no one could possibly win a war of
    that magnitude, everyone would lose! lose everything! so it's not an
    option, that is unless one is totally insane and/or suicidal hah!

    It probably won't go nuclear so it will be worth fighting.

    ### - oh ho ho! (i have to laugh heh) because going nuclear is
    'inevitable' if/when either side thinks they're going to lose a more conventional war? no one will be prepared to give in and thus things will unavoidably escalate to that level! that even if we strike first we wont possibly escape the massive retaliation that will immediately follow! and because we've all got enough weapons, each, to flatten the entire world
    many times over?

    "Mutually Assured Destruction" (MAD) was the only thing (the only
    realisation) that stopped the US & russia destroying each other no? so do
    ya really think it's any different now with china??




    with all the resources running out we actually need to learn to share?

    Give it another few thousand years of evolution and see what happens.

    ### - only if we survive as a species for that long!?

    i.e., it takes about a million years for nature to evolve just one change,
    the best we could hope for in only a 1000 years or so being to maybe stop getting wisdom teeth lol, although having access to knives & forks did apparently go towards people have a shorter lower jaw haha...

    mind you, with all that increased background radiation things might indeed
    have been speeded up a bit no? cell mutation (cancer) becoming rife in the world today because of it!

    (well they always 'did' say that 2 heads are better than one didn't they?? lol... silly joke)






    and if humanity ain't BIG enough to do that... well...

    we all know what follows...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)