i guess we are all done here then.
nice talking with everyone but this
dude is done. What else can I say?
:)
i guess we are all done here then.
nice talking with everyone but this
dude is done. What else can I say?
On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 19:53:09 -0700 (PDT), luckyrat
<allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:
i guess we are all done here then.
nice talking with everyone but this
dude is done. What else can I say?
Try not to talk...
He's gone because I found where he *lives* (not *lived* as he
dishonestly implied in his *marathon* post - that was a past address).
He didn't like that, but then again, I didn't like his bullshit about
Brian's pedophilia and jail - all lies and febrile imagination but
showing what sort of low dog he really is.
He's gone, but is anyone less rich for that? As far as I can see, I
did this group a favour.
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 03:00:40 +0100, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 19:53:09 -0700 (PDT), luckyrat
<allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:
i guess we are all done here then.
nice talking with everyone but this
dude is done. What else can I say?
Try not to talk...
He's gone because I found where he *lives* (not *lived* as he
dishonestly implied in his *marathon* post - that was a past address).
He didn't like that, but then again, I didn't like his bullshit about
Brian's pedophilia and jail - all lies and febrile imagination but
showing what sort of low dog he really is.
He's gone, but is anyone less rich for that? As far as I can see, I
did this group a favour.
### - you most certainly did afaic anyway, cheers :)
(slider pounds on the bar) another large crocodile-beer for mon-ami over
here barkeeper!
and make it snappy! (silly joke :)))
chris has now left/moved-on too though, which is also a cue for moi to hit >the road as well...
(i.e., i only came here originally because of chris, at his express >invitation after meeting him in a carlos castaneda-type chat-room >('nagual-chat' of all things heh) within only 3 or 4 days of my initially >even being on the internet haha; "come over to our place," he said,
"you'll find it interesting there!" - i did, and 20 years later the rest
is now history...)
so how about you thang... how did you happen to come to this >shantytown/outpost?
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:30:08 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 03:00:40 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 19:53:09 -0700 (PDT), luckyrat
<allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:
i guess we are all done here then.
nice talking with everyone but this
dude is done. What else can I say?
Try not to talk...
He's gone because I found where he *lives* (not *lived* as he
dishonestly implied in his *marathon* post - that was a past address).
He didn't like that, but then again, I didn't like his bullshit about
Brian's pedophilia and jail - all lies and febrile imagination but
showing what sort of low dog he really is.
He's gone, but is anyone less rich for that? As far as I can see, I
did this group a favour.
### - you most certainly did afaic anyway, cheers :)
(slider pounds on the bar) another large crocodile-beer for mon-ami over
here barkeeper!
and make it snappy! (silly joke :)))
chris has now left/moved-on too though, which is also a cue for moi to
hit
the road as well...
(i.e., i only came here originally because of chris, at his express
invitation after meeting him in a carlos castaneda-type chat-room
('nagual-chat' of all things heh) within only 3 or 4 days of my
initially
even being on the internet haha; "come over to our place," he said,
"you'll find it interesting there!" - i did, and 20 years later the rest
is now history...)
so how about you thang... how did you happen to come to this
shantytown/outpost?
Going through group lists back around 2003 or 2004 I think. Came upon
this one and recalled my old man was an adherent of this fraud. So,
wandered in. And stayed.
But now it's dead. Even the Russian idiot has gone. Off to join the
great usenet in the sky...
Like all things, its met it's use by date.
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 11:48:55 +0100, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:30:08 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 03:00:40 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 19:53:09 -0700 (PDT), luckyrat
<allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:
i guess we are all done here then.
nice talking with everyone but this
dude is done. What else can I say?
Try not to talk...
He's gone because I found where he *lives* (not *lived* as he
dishonestly implied in his *marathon* post - that was a past address). >>>> He didn't like that, but then again, I didn't like his bullshit about
Brian's pedophilia and jail - all lies and febrile imagination but
showing what sort of low dog he really is.
He's gone, but is anyone less rich for that? As far as I can see, I
did this group a favour.
### - you most certainly did afaic anyway, cheers :)
(slider pounds on the bar) another large crocodile-beer for mon-ami over >>> here barkeeper!
and make it snappy! (silly joke :)))
chris has now left/moved-on too though, which is also a cue for moi to
hit
the road as well...
(i.e., i only came here originally because of chris, at his express
invitation after meeting him in a carlos castaneda-type chat-room
('nagual-chat' of all things heh) within only 3 or 4 days of my
initially
even being on the internet haha; "come over to our place," he said,
"you'll find it interesting there!" - i did, and 20 years later the rest >>> is now history...)
so how about you thang... how did you happen to come to this
shantytown/outpost?
Going through group lists back around 2003 or 2004 I think. Came upon
this one and recalled my old man was an adherent of this fraud. So,
wandered in. And stayed.
But now it's dead. Even the Russian idiot has gone. Off to join the
great usenet in the sky...
Like all things, its met it's use by date.
### - well yes, long-time really, and has been slowly winding-down ever
since cc (carlos castaneda) reputedly died a normal death instead of
burning with "the fire from within", although considering the long delay >involved between his passing and it being reported, not to mention that
the doctor who wrote out his death cert. was also a close personal friend >hah; who the hell knows what 'really' happened to him as all we actually >'have' is pure hearsay from his close associates to account for it heh, >everyone else much preferring to instead accept his natural death as clear >evidence of his being a charlatan rather than ever looking at it all
again...
there's 1000's of people out there still actively practicing it,
however... and so will likely remain something of an enigma for quite some >time to come, one that has definitely left a mark on human consciousness
in many ways, even to including an episode of the simpsons indirectly (but >also quite clearly) dedicated to it lol + see below :)))
it's the end of an era for this group anyway, waste paper & tumbleweeds >blowin' around the now deserted streets of shantytown; i guess after 20+ >years the time has finally come go move on...
but it was fun while it lasted ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4qsNSSbftM
i.e., after eat a psychotropic chilli, just like cc homer meets a talking >coyote?
ahaha :D
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 18:44:51 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 11:48:55 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:30:08 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 03:00:40 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 19:53:09 -0700 (PDT), luckyrat
<allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:
i guess we are all done here then.
nice talking with everyone but this
dude is done. What else can I say?
Try not to talk...
He's gone because I found where he *lives* (not *lived* as he
dishonestly implied in his *marathon* post - that was a past
address).
He didn't like that, but then again, I didn't like his bullshit about >>>>> Brian's pedophilia and jail - all lies and febrile imagination but
showing what sort of low dog he really is.
He's gone, but is anyone less rich for that? As far as I can see, I >>>>> did this group a favour.
### - you most certainly did afaic anyway, cheers :)
(slider pounds on the bar) another large crocodile-beer for mon-ami
over
here barkeeper!
and make it snappy! (silly joke :)))
chris has now left/moved-on too though, which is also a cue for moi to >>>> hit
the road as well...
(i.e., i only came here originally because of chris, at his express
invitation after meeting him in a carlos castaneda-type chat-room
('nagual-chat' of all things heh) within only 3 or 4 days of my
initially
even being on the internet haha; "come over to our place," he said,
"you'll find it interesting there!" - i did, and 20 years later the
rest
is now history...)
so how about you thang... how did you happen to come to this
shantytown/outpost?
Going through group lists back around 2003 or 2004 I think. Came upon
this one and recalled my old man was an adherent of this fraud. So,
wandered in. And stayed.
But now it's dead. Even the Russian idiot has gone. Off to join the
great usenet in the sky...
Like all things, its met it's use by date.
### - well yes, long-time really, and has been slowly winding-down ever
since cc (carlos castaneda) reputedly died a normal death instead of
burning with "the fire from within", although considering the long delay
involved between his passing and it being reported, not to mention that
the doctor who wrote out his death cert. was also a close personal
friend
hah; who the hell knows what 'really' happened to him as all we actually
'have' is pure hearsay from his close associates to account for it heh,
everyone else much preferring to instead accept his natural death as
clear
evidence of his being a charlatan rather than ever looking at it all
again...
there's 1000's of people out there still actively practicing it,
however... and so will likely remain something of an enigma for quite
some
time to come, one that has definitely left a mark on human consciousness
in many ways, even to including an episode of the simpsons indirectly
(but
also quite clearly) dedicated to it lol + see below :)))
it's the end of an era for this group anyway, waste paper & tumbleweeds
blowin' around the now deserted streets of shantytown; i guess after 20+
years the time has finally come go move on...
but it was fun while it lasted ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4qsNSSbftM
i.e., after eat a psychotropic chilli, just like cc homer meets a
talking
coyote?
ahaha :D
I wonder how Dave is going? He was in my view a prig and pretentious
with it, but had an intellect and loved the outdoors.
As for Chris,
he should have stayed but I get the impression he is out of usenet
entirely not just this group. At his age (he's older than both of us)
he needs mental stimulation but his fires are clearly flickering -
compare his posts from say a decade ago with his posts now...he could
hold a conversation then, now it's one or two words at a time and
reluctantly at that. I recommend he join at least several other
groups which are lively and intelligent - and learn to take and give
banter rather than sink into the tar pits of bitterness.
As for me? I have a diminishing but still long list of groups I
inhabit from time to time, enough to interest me and a great many
other interests in life, much of it online - in full knowledge that as
time progresses our cellular matrix degrades and only intellect and
mind keep any semblance of permanency until the personal singularity
occurs as it must.
Chris needs to take care because his cognitive abilities are in
evident decline. I don't see that in you and I know it's not the case personally. I didn't see it in Dave before he left either. The guy I
just doxed goes beyond that - he has mental health issues, as they say
and cognitive decline would be hard to identify amongst all the
debris.
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 03:18:53 +0100, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 18:44:51 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 11:48:55 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:30:08 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 03:00:40 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 19:53:09 -0700 (PDT), luckyrat
<allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:
i guess we are all done here then.
nice talking with everyone but this
dude is done. What else can I say?
Try not to talk...
He's gone because I found where he *lives* (not *lived* as he
dishonestly implied in his *marathon* post - that was a past
address).
He didn't like that, but then again, I didn't like his bullshit about >>>>>> Brian's pedophilia and jail - all lies and febrile imagination but >>>>>> showing what sort of low dog he really is.
He's gone, but is anyone less rich for that? As far as I can see, I >>>>>> did this group a favour.
### - you most certainly did afaic anyway, cheers :)
(slider pounds on the bar) another large crocodile-beer for mon-ami
over
here barkeeper!
and make it snappy! (silly joke :)))
chris has now left/moved-on too though, which is also a cue for moi to >>>>> hit
the road as well...
(i.e., i only came here originally because of chris, at his express
invitation after meeting him in a carlos castaneda-type chat-room
('nagual-chat' of all things heh) within only 3 or 4 days of my
initially
even being on the internet haha; "come over to our place," he said,
"you'll find it interesting there!" - i did, and 20 years later the
rest
is now history...)
so how about you thang... how did you happen to come to this
shantytown/outpost?
Going through group lists back around 2003 or 2004 I think. Came upon >>>> this one and recalled my old man was an adherent of this fraud. So,
wandered in. And stayed.
But now it's dead. Even the Russian idiot has gone. Off to join the
great usenet in the sky...
Like all things, its met it's use by date.
### - well yes, long-time really, and has been slowly winding-down ever
since cc (carlos castaneda) reputedly died a normal death instead of
burning with "the fire from within", although considering the long delay >>> involved between his passing and it being reported, not to mention that
the doctor who wrote out his death cert. was also a close personal
friend
hah; who the hell knows what 'really' happened to him as all we actually >>> 'have' is pure hearsay from his close associates to account for it heh,
everyone else much preferring to instead accept his natural death as
clear
evidence of his being a charlatan rather than ever looking at it all
again...
there's 1000's of people out there still actively practicing it,
however... and so will likely remain something of an enigma for quite
some
time to come, one that has definitely left a mark on human consciousness >>> in many ways, even to including an episode of the simpsons indirectly
(but
also quite clearly) dedicated to it lol + see below :)))
it's the end of an era for this group anyway, waste paper & tumbleweeds
blowin' around the now deserted streets of shantytown; i guess after 20+ >>> years the time has finally come go move on...
but it was fun while it lasted ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4qsNSSbftM
i.e., after eat a psychotropic chilli, just like cc homer meets a
talking
coyote?
ahaha :D
I wonder how Dave is going? He was in my view a prig and pretentious
with it, but had an intellect and loved the outdoors.
### - he certainly was lol :)))
he became hyper-critical though, and that's a problem as it can sour one's >whole personality + am worried he maybe even ended up in jail due to
angrily replying to trumpy's tweets?? LOL (one can only imagine some of
the dreadful things he must have said to him yeah? not a good idea to >threaten a potus though huh, especially trumpy!)
As for Chris,
he should have stayed but I get the impression he is out of usenet
entirely not just this group. At his age (he's older than both of us)
he needs mental stimulation but his fires are clearly flickering -
compare his posts from say a decade ago with his posts now...he could
hold a conversation then, now it's one or two words at a time and
reluctantly at that. I recommend he join at least several other
groups which are lively and intelligent - and learn to take and give
banter rather than sink into the tar pits of bitterness.
### - he's alright imho, less intellectual yes but in a good/zen way, and
is more content to just 'be' these days rather than trying to 'become'
etc, plus has a tendency to lean to the right a bit is all, when he should >perhaps just remain in the middle (in the eye of the needle if that makes
any sense?) don't worry about him though, imho he's fine, and i think
fairly content ;)
As for me? I have a diminishing but still long list of groups I
inhabit from time to time, enough to interest me and a great many
other interests in life, much of it online - in full knowledge that as
time progresses our cellular matrix degrades and only intellect and
mind keep any semblance of permanency until the personal singularity
occurs as it must.
### - i think i know you quite well really thang, our long exchanges over >many years has ensured we know each other quite well, in that it's
impossible not to become a little bit 'like' the person you exchange with? >(ref: that old proverb re he who fights with dragons has to careful he >doesn't become a dragon himself in the process etc, that things inevitably >rub-off via such exchanges) and thus to know me all you really have to do
is introspect some as my pov hasn't wavered at all over the years, that >although you might not agree with it you're still aware of what am
'likely' to think & say on many subjects by now for instance & vise-versa
:)
Chris needs to take care because his cognitive abilities are in
evident decline. I don't see that in you and I know it's not the case
personally. I didn't see it in Dave before he left either. The guy I
just doxed goes beyond that - he has mental health issues, as they say
and cognitive decline would be hard to identify amongst all the
debris.
### - he has carried a personal grudge against me for years since that
spat between us nearly 20 years ago, but which had diminished over the
years to the point that if i ignored his occasional dig in my direction we >we're getting along not too badly at all, to the point that he recently
paid me a correct complement re my apparent ability to speak individually
to people on their own level rather than trying to drag them onto mine (a >very correct observation on his part) and as such i though to maybe clear
the air between us and have us move-on from that...
he didn't remember it, but when i reminded him of the original problem
though he reacted very badly indeed, violently, all he could see was me >having a huge pop at him when that really wasn't the case... all his
hatred rose to the surface and suddenly it became all-out war; he
attacking, moi defending, and nada seemed to get him back off that track >again, he was enjoying it too much! which is a shame really because i
quite liked him otherwise (i like 'all' outsiders because i'm one of them! >they're like a different species you know? an advanced type/form of
humanity! keen observers! and potential champions if only they can learn
to focus their full attention on the world instead of themselves...)
that in that sense i deeply regret what happened and consider that perhaps
i should've just said nothing and continued with the way things were, it
was far from perfect and increasingly strained, especially when it came to >talking about politics, but at least we could still talk? whereas now it's >completely irrecoverable... shame about that really as i had hoped we >could've even been friends...
'Friend'
noun
1.
a person with whom one has a bond of mutual affection, typically one >exclusive of sexual or family relations. "she's a friend of mine"
2.
a member of the Religious Society of Friends; a Quaker.
verb
friend; 3rd person present: friends; gerund or present participle:
friending; past tense: friended; past participle: friended
1.
informal
add (someone) to a list of friends or contacts on a social networking >website.
"I am friended by 29 people who I have not friended back"
2.
archaic
befriend (someone).
(slider's version) a 'friend' rather than an enemy, for example ;)
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 05:49:32 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 03:18:53 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 18:44:51 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 11:48:55 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:30:08 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 03:00:40 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 19:53:09 -0700 (PDT), luckyrat
<allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:
i guess we are all done here then.
nice talking with everyone but this
dude is done. What else can I say?
Try not to talk...
He's gone because I found where he *lives* (not *lived* as he
dishonestly implied in his *marathon* post - that was a past
address).
He didn't like that, but then again, I didn't like his bullshit
about
Brian's pedophilia and jail - all lies and febrile imagination but >>>>>>> showing what sort of low dog he really is.
He's gone, but is anyone less rich for that? As far as I can see, >>>>>>> I
did this group a favour.
### - you most certainly did afaic anyway, cheers :)
(slider pounds on the bar) another large crocodile-beer for mon-ami >>>>>> over
here barkeeper!
and make it snappy! (silly joke :)))
chris has now left/moved-on too though, which is also a cue for moi >>>>>> to
hit
the road as well...
(i.e., i only came here originally because of chris, at his express >>>>>> invitation after meeting him in a carlos castaneda-type chat-room
('nagual-chat' of all things heh) within only 3 or 4 days of my
initially
even being on the internet haha; "come over to our place," he said, >>>>>> "you'll find it interesting there!" - i did, and 20 years later the >>>>>> rest
is now history...)
so how about you thang... how did you happen to come to this
shantytown/outpost?
Going through group lists back around 2003 or 2004 I think. Came
upon
this one and recalled my old man was an adherent of this fraud. So, >>>>> wandered in. And stayed.
But now it's dead. Even the Russian idiot has gone. Off to join the >>>>> great usenet in the sky...
Like all things, its met it's use by date.
### - well yes, long-time really, and has been slowly winding-down
ever
since cc (carlos castaneda) reputedly died a normal death instead of
burning with "the fire from within", although considering the long
delay
involved between his passing and it being reported, not to mention
that
the doctor who wrote out his death cert. was also a close personal
friend
hah; who the hell knows what 'really' happened to him as all we
actually
'have' is pure hearsay from his close associates to account for it
heh,
everyone else much preferring to instead accept his natural death as
clear
evidence of his being a charlatan rather than ever looking at it all
again...
there's 1000's of people out there still actively practicing it,
however... and so will likely remain something of an enigma for quite
some
time to come, one that has definitely left a mark on human
consciousness
in many ways, even to including an episode of the simpsons indirectly
(but
also quite clearly) dedicated to it lol + see below :)))
it's the end of an era for this group anyway, waste paper &
tumbleweeds
blowin' around the now deserted streets of shantytown; i guess after
20+
years the time has finally come go move on...
but it was fun while it lasted ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4qsNSSbftM
i.e., after eat a psychotropic chilli, just like cc homer meets a
talking
coyote?
ahaha :D
I wonder how Dave is going? He was in my view a prig and pretentious
with it, but had an intellect and loved the outdoors.
### - he certainly was lol :)))
he became hyper-critical though, and that's a problem as it can sour
one's
whole personality + am worried he maybe even ended up in jail due to
angrily replying to trumpy's tweets?? LOL (one can only imagine some of
the dreadful things he must have said to him yeah? not a good idea to
threaten a potus though huh, especially trumpy!)
Yep, I couldn't abide his holier-than-thou attitude, what's known as
riding high on the horse. He also lived in the past on past
accomplishments, his software he developed decades ago for some health
system or hospital - his one and only, but haven't we ALL got one and
only's?
Time to move on Dave, that's a good fellow.
And careful you don't fall off that horse...
No he's a deeply bitter man. I don't know why - he rides bikes, theAs for Chris,
he should have stayed but I get the impression he is out of usenet
entirely not just this group. At his age (he's older than both of us)
he needs mental stimulation but his fires are clearly flickering -
compare his posts from say a decade ago with his posts now...he could
hold a conversation then, now it's one or two words at a time and
reluctantly at that. I recommend he join at least several other
groups which are lively and intelligent - and learn to take and give
banter rather than sink into the tar pits of bitterness.
### - he's alright imho, less intellectual yes but in a good/zen way,
and
is more content to just 'be' these days rather than trying to 'become'
etc, plus has a tendency to lean to the right a bit is all, when he
should
perhaps just remain in the middle (in the eye of the needle if that
makes
any sense?) don't worry about him though, imho he's fine, and i think
fairly content ;)
larger louder types and once had the personality to go with it. But
he has become embittered by life and dissatisfied and that's no way to
spend your last few decades on this plane.
You didn't know me well enough to expect me to come to your view andAs for me? I have a diminishing but still long list of groups I
inhabit from time to time, enough to interest me and a great many
other interests in life, much of it online - in full knowledge that as
time progresses our cellular matrix degrades and only intellect and
mind keep any semblance of permanency until the personal singularity
occurs as it must.
### - i think i know you quite well really thang, our long exchanges
over
many years has ensured we know each other quite well, in that it's
impossible not to become a little bit 'like' the person you exchange
with?
(ref: that old proverb re he who fights with dragons has to careful he
doesn't become a dragon himself in the process etc, that things
inevitably
rub-off via such exchanges) and thus to know me all you really have to
do
is introspect some as my pov hasn't wavered at all over the years, that
although you might not agree with it you're still aware of what am
'likely' to think & say on many subjects by now for instance &
vise-versa
:)
take your side when that nutcase was throwing shit at you. I detest
people who make those sort of spurious accusations without the least
evidence and cloaked by anonymity.
I took his anonymity off him and also, I have his phone number if you
want to spend some small coin on giving him a call :)
He called me a player. He has no fucking idea :)
I also took umbrage when Chris was chucking shit at Dave about what
allegedly Dave's wife said to Chris about Dave before she left Dave.
That was fucking below the belt and after that, Chris didn't talk to
me anymore. Fuck him. You do not do that shit to people - fine to
hit them with facts and reality, but not spurious nonsense designed to
hurt. Fuck that.
Chris needs to take care because his cognitive abilities are in
evident decline. I don't see that in you and I know it's not the case
personally. I didn't see it in Dave before he left either. The guy I
just doxed goes beyond that - he has mental health issues, as they say
and cognitive decline would be hard to identify amongst all the
debris.
### - he has carried a personal grudge against me for years since that
spat between us nearly 20 years ago, but which had diminished over the
years to the point that if i ignored his occasional dig in my direction
we
we're getting along not too badly at all, to the point that he recently
paid me a correct complement re my apparent ability to speak
individually
to people on their own level rather than trying to drag them onto mine
(a
very correct observation on his part) and as such i though to maybe
clear
the air between us and have us move-on from that...
he didn't remember it, but when i reminded him of the original problem
though he reacted very badly indeed, violently, all he could see was me
having a huge pop at him when that really wasn't the case... all his
hatred rose to the surface and suddenly it became all-out war; he
attacking, moi defending, and nada seemed to get him back off that track
again, he was enjoying it too much! which is a shame really because i
quite liked him otherwise (i like 'all' outsiders because i'm one of
them!
they're like a different species you know? an advanced type/form of
humanity! keen observers! and potential champions if only they can learn
to focus their full attention on the world instead of themselves...)
that in that sense i deeply regret what happened and consider that
perhaps
i should've just said nothing and continued with the way things were, it
was far from perfect and increasingly strained, especially when it came
to
talking about politics, but at least we could still talk? whereas now
it's
completely irrecoverable... shame about that really as i had hoped we
could've even been friends...
He's not your friend Slider, he has massive mental health issues and
at heart he's a nasty fucking bastard.
'Friend'
noun
1.
a person with whom one has a bond of mutual affection, typically one
exclusive of sexual or family relations. "she's a friend of mine"
2.
a member of the Religious Society of Friends; a Quaker.
verb
friend; 3rd person present: friends; gerund or present participle:
friending; past tense: friended; past participle: friended
1.
informal
add (someone) to a list of friends or contacts on a social networking
website.
"I am friended by 29 people who I have not friended back"
2.
archaic
befriend (someone).
(slider's version) a 'friend' rather than an enemy, for example ;)
On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 10:18:37 +0100, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 05:49:32 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 03:18:53 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 18:44:51 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 11:48:55 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:30:08 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 03:00:40 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 19:53:09 -0700 (PDT), luckyrat
<allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:
i guess we are all done here then.
nice talking with everyone but this
dude is done. What else can I say?
Try not to talk...
He's gone because I found where he *lives* (not *lived* as he
dishonestly implied in his *marathon* post - that was a past
address).
He didn't like that, but then again, I didn't like his bullshit >>>>>>>> about
Brian's pedophilia and jail - all lies and febrile imagination but >>>>>>>> showing what sort of low dog he really is.
He's gone, but is anyone less rich for that? As far as I can see, >>>>>>>> I
did this group a favour.
### - you most certainly did afaic anyway, cheers :)
(slider pounds on the bar) another large crocodile-beer for mon-ami >>>>>>> over
here barkeeper!
and make it snappy! (silly joke :)))
chris has now left/moved-on too though, which is also a cue for moi >>>>>>> to
hit
the road as well...
(i.e., i only came here originally because of chris, at his express >>>>>>> invitation after meeting him in a carlos castaneda-type chat-room >>>>>>> ('nagual-chat' of all things heh) within only 3 or 4 days of my
initially
even being on the internet haha; "come over to our place," he said, >>>>>>> "you'll find it interesting there!" - i did, and 20 years later the >>>>>>> rest
is now history...)
so how about you thang... how did you happen to come to this
shantytown/outpost?
Going through group lists back around 2003 or 2004 I think. Came
upon
this one and recalled my old man was an adherent of this fraud. So, >>>>>> wandered in. And stayed.
But now it's dead. Even the Russian idiot has gone. Off to join the >>>>>> great usenet in the sky...
Like all things, its met it's use by date.
### - well yes, long-time really, and has been slowly winding-down
ever
since cc (carlos castaneda) reputedly died a normal death instead of >>>>> burning with "the fire from within", although considering the long
delay
involved between his passing and it being reported, not to mention
that
the doctor who wrote out his death cert. was also a close personal
friend
hah; who the hell knows what 'really' happened to him as all we
actually
'have' is pure hearsay from his close associates to account for it
heh,
everyone else much preferring to instead accept his natural death as >>>>> clear
evidence of his being a charlatan rather than ever looking at it all >>>>> again...
there's 1000's of people out there still actively practicing it,
however... and so will likely remain something of an enigma for quite >>>>> some
time to come, one that has definitely left a mark on human
consciousness
in many ways, even to including an episode of the simpsons indirectly >>>>> (but
also quite clearly) dedicated to it lol + see below :)))
it's the end of an era for this group anyway, waste paper &
tumbleweeds
blowin' around the now deserted streets of shantytown; i guess after >>>>> 20+
years the time has finally come go move on...
but it was fun while it lasted ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4qsNSSbftM
i.e., after eat a psychotropic chilli, just like cc homer meets a
talking
coyote?
ahaha :D
I wonder how Dave is going? He was in my view a prig and pretentious
with it, but had an intellect and loved the outdoors.
### - he certainly was lol :)))
he became hyper-critical though, and that's a problem as it can sour
one's
whole personality + am worried he maybe even ended up in jail due to
angrily replying to trumpy's tweets?? LOL (one can only imagine some of
the dreadful things he must have said to him yeah? not a good idea to
threaten a potus though huh, especially trumpy!)
Yep, I couldn't abide his holier-than-thou attitude, what's known as
riding high on the horse. He also lived in the past on past
accomplishments, his software he developed decades ago for some health
system or hospital - his one and only, but haven't we ALL got one and
only's?
Time to move on Dave, that's a good fellow.
And careful you don't fall off that horse...
### - he was fine-enough until castaneda kicked the bucket haha, and then >turned into a brute towards anyone who dared question that the whole thing >was a crock, something i personally took objection to when say some >unsuspecting newbie came along and jeremy started beating the fucker up in
a very cruel manner & way, deliberately being very hurtful, actually
brutal as i said, and this against someone whose position jeremy himself
was in only a very short time before??
i could never understand (nor accept) his cruelty towards unsuspecting >people, to the point i took to pre-warning them about him whenever they >turned up heh (forewarned is forearmed kinda thing) so they wouldn't take
too bad a beating before hitting him back and standing up for themselves, >else he'd kick the shit outta them before they even realised what was >happening??
fuck that! i don't like that! it was totally uncalled for + some of the >people turning up and facing this 'treatment' of his were actually lovely
+ genuine people, 'his' only intention being to quickly fuck them off out
of this place as soon as humanly possible kinda thing; tell them about it >yes, and let them down gently if at all possible, but kicking it into
their head + actually trying to damage them in the process so they go away >fuming: no! and that's how he & i fell-out really :)
No he's a deeply bitter man. I don't know why - he rides bikes, theAs for Chris,
he should have stayed but I get the impression he is out of usenet
entirely not just this group. At his age (he's older than both of us) >>>> he needs mental stimulation but his fires are clearly flickering -
compare his posts from say a decade ago with his posts now...he could
hold a conversation then, now it's one or two words at a time and
reluctantly at that. I recommend he join at least several other
groups which are lively and intelligent - and learn to take and give
banter rather than sink into the tar pits of bitterness.
### - he's alright imho, less intellectual yes but in a good/zen way,
and
is more content to just 'be' these days rather than trying to 'become'
etc, plus has a tendency to lean to the right a bit is all, when he
should
perhaps just remain in the middle (in the eye of the needle if that
makes
any sense?) don't worry about him though, imho he's fine, and i think
fairly content ;)
larger louder types and once had the personality to go with it. But
he has become embittered by life and dissatisfied and that's no way to
spend your last few decades on this plane.
### - well i don't see it that way personally, or he's just never shown
that to me then, he's a bit right-wing sometimes in his attitudes towards >certain things, but apart from that he's ok :)
You didn't know me well enough to expect me to come to your view andAs for me? I have a diminishing but still long list of groups I
inhabit from time to time, enough to interest me and a great many
other interests in life, much of it online - in full knowledge that as >>>> time progresses our cellular matrix degrades and only intellect and
mind keep any semblance of permanency until the personal singularity
occurs as it must.
### - i think i know you quite well really thang, our long exchanges
over
many years has ensured we know each other quite well, in that it's
impossible not to become a little bit 'like' the person you exchange
with?
(ref: that old proverb re he who fights with dragons has to careful he
doesn't become a dragon himself in the process etc, that things
inevitably
rub-off via such exchanges) and thus to know me all you really have to
do
is introspect some as my pov hasn't wavered at all over the years, that
although you might not agree with it you're still aware of what am
'likely' to think & say on many subjects by now for instance &
vise-versa
:)
take your side when that nutcase was throwing shit at you. I detest
people who make those sort of spurious accusations without the least
evidence and cloaked by anonymity.
I took his anonymity off him and also, I have his phone number if you
want to spend some small coin on giving him a call :)
He called me a player. He has no fucking idea :)
### - lol, he defo made an error in attacking you for no reason haha,
hence my joke at the time for you to go 'do' the fucker while i chomped on >popcorns & cola haha (i didn't actually expect you to though as i can >literally count on one hand all the peeps who've ever come to my aid, it's >usually always been the other way around...)
I also took umbrage when Chris was chucking shit at Dave about what
allegedly Dave's wife said to Chris about Dave before she left Dave.
That was fucking below the belt and after that, Chris didn't talk to
me anymore. Fuck him. You do not do that shit to people - fine to
hit them with facts and reality, but not spurious nonsense designed to
hurt. Fuck that.
### - i remember that day very well, jeremy just turned on his long-time >friend chris for no possible reason whatsoever! jeremy got it completely >wrong and i even tried to tell him that chris hadn't meant anything by an >earlier + generalised joke he'd made that was aimed at no one in
particular, jeremy seemed to take it very personally though as though
chris was having a dig at him? he wasn't! and so jeremy started-in saying >some really fucked up shit, which chris then got fed-up with and fucked >jermey off with the comments you mention... at least that's the way i read
it at the time anyway...
Chris needs to take care because his cognitive abilities are in
evident decline. I don't see that in you and I know it's not the case >>>> personally. I didn't see it in Dave before he left either. The guy I >>>> just doxed goes beyond that - he has mental health issues, as they say >>>> and cognitive decline would be hard to identify amongst all the
debris.
### - he has carried a personal grudge against me for years since that
spat between us nearly 20 years ago, but which had diminished over the
years to the point that if i ignored his occasional dig in my direction
we
we're getting along not too badly at all, to the point that he recently
paid me a correct complement re my apparent ability to speak
individually
to people on their own level rather than trying to drag them onto mine
(a
very correct observation on his part) and as such i though to maybe
clear
the air between us and have us move-on from that...
he didn't remember it, but when i reminded him of the original problem
though he reacted very badly indeed, violently, all he could see was me
having a huge pop at him when that really wasn't the case... all his
hatred rose to the surface and suddenly it became all-out war; he
attacking, moi defending, and nada seemed to get him back off that track >>> again, he was enjoying it too much! which is a shame really because i
quite liked him otherwise (i like 'all' outsiders because i'm one of
them!
they're like a different species you know? an advanced type/form of
humanity! keen observers! and potential champions if only they can learn >>> to focus their full attention on the world instead of themselves...)
that in that sense i deeply regret what happened and consider that
perhaps
i should've just said nothing and continued with the way things were, it >>> was far from perfect and increasingly strained, especially when it came
to
talking about politics, but at least we could still talk? whereas now
it's
completely irrecoverable... shame about that really as i had hoped we
could've even been friends...
He's not your friend Slider, he has massive mental health issues and
at heart he's a nasty fucking bastard.
### - i knew that, but was prepared to tolerate it as long as it all
remained below a certain threshold, which it did apart from the occasional >dig from him, i tolerated him and he tolerated me and we all got by and
that was ok... where it started getting more heated on his part being with
I wonder how Dave is going? He was in my view a prig and pretentious >>>>> with it, but had an intellect and loved the outdoors.
### - he certainly was lol :)))
he became hyper-critical though, and that's a problem as it can sour
one's
whole personality + am worried he maybe even ended up in jail due to
angrily replying to trumpy's tweets?? LOL (one can only imagine some
of
the dreadful things he must have said to him yeah? not a good idea to
threaten a potus though huh, especially trumpy!)
Yep, I couldn't abide his holier-than-thou attitude, what's known as
riding high on the horse. He also lived in the past on past
accomplishments, his software he developed decades ago for some health
system or hospital - his one and only, but haven't we ALL got one and
only's?
Time to move on Dave, that's a good fellow.
And careful you don't fall off that horse...
### - he was fine-enough until castaneda kicked the bucket haha, and
then
turned into a brute towards anyone who dared question that the whole
thing
was a crock, something i personally took objection to when say some
unsuspecting newbie came along and jeremy started beating the fucker up
in
a very cruel manner & way, deliberately being very hurtful, actually
brutal as i said, and this against someone whose position jeremy himself
was in only a very short time before??
i could never understand (nor accept) his cruelty towards unsuspecting
people, to the point i took to pre-warning them about him whenever they
turned up heh (forewarned is forearmed kinda thing) so they wouldn't
take
too bad a beating before hitting him back and standing up for
themselves,
else he'd kick the shit outta them before they even realised what was
happening??
fuck that! i don't like that! it was totally uncalled for + some of the
people turning up and facing this 'treatment' of his were actually
lovely
+ genuine people, 'his' only intention being to quickly fuck them off
out
of this place as soon as humanly possible kinda thing; tell them about
it
yes, and let them down gently if at all possible, but kicking it into
their head + actually trying to damage them in the process so they go
away
fuming: no! and that's how he & i fell-out really :)
That's to be expected from our species. We're not too far from when
the next meal depended on how fast and sure your young male was in
catching and killing meat on the hoof.
Expect blood and guts thinking from even the most noble of our
species. We're not the peak species for lack of reason.
So don't be surpised. Your situational awareness should have picked
it up. It's in our DNA.
No he's a deeply bitter man. I don't know why - he rides bikes, theAs for Chris,
he should have stayed but I get the impression he is out of usenet
entirely not just this group. At his age (he's older than both of
us)
he needs mental stimulation but his fires are clearly flickering -
compare his posts from say a decade ago with his posts now...he could >>>>> hold a conversation then, now it's one or two words at a time and
reluctantly at that. I recommend he join at least several other
groups which are lively and intelligent - and learn to take and give >>>>> banter rather than sink into the tar pits of bitterness.
### - he's alright imho, less intellectual yes but in a good/zen way,
and
is more content to just 'be' these days rather than trying to 'become' >>>> etc, plus has a tendency to lean to the right a bit is all, when he
should
perhaps just remain in the middle (in the eye of the needle if that
makes
any sense?) don't worry about him though, imho he's fine, and i think
fairly content ;)
larger louder types and once had the personality to go with it. But
he has become embittered by life and dissatisfied and that's no way to
spend your last few decades on this plane.
### - well i don't see it that way personally, or he's just never shown
that to me then, he's a bit right-wing sometimes in his attitudes
towards
certain things, but apart from that he's ok :)
He hasn't shown anything, it's all been hidden. It's easy to infer
though notwithstanding any attempt to conceal consciously or
otherwise.
You didn't know me well enough to expect me to come to your view andAs for me? I have a diminishing but still long list of groups I
inhabit from time to time, enough to interest me and a great many
other interests in life, much of it online - in full knowledge that
as
time progresses our cellular matrix degrades and only intellect and
mind keep any semblance of permanency until the personal singularity >>>>> occurs as it must.
### - i think i know you quite well really thang, our long exchanges
over
many years has ensured we know each other quite well, in that it's
impossible not to become a little bit 'like' the person you exchange
with?
(ref: that old proverb re he who fights with dragons has to careful he >>>> doesn't become a dragon himself in the process etc, that things
inevitably
rub-off via such exchanges) and thus to know me all you really have to >>>> do
is introspect some as my pov hasn't wavered at all over the years,
that
although you might not agree with it you're still aware of what am
'likely' to think & say on many subjects by now for instance &
vise-versa
:)
take your side when that nutcase was throwing shit at you. I detest
people who make those sort of spurious accusations without the least
evidence and cloaked by anonymity.
I took his anonymity off him and also, I have his phone number if you
want to spend some small coin on giving him a call :)
He called me a player. He has no fucking idea :)
### - lol, he defo made an error in attacking you for no reason haha,
hence my joke at the time for you to go 'do' the fucker while i chomped
on
popcorns & cola haha (i didn't actually expect you to though as i can
literally count on one hand all the peeps who've ever come to my aid,
it's
usually always been the other way around...)
No mentally ill or not, I thought he was careless potentially
antagonizing people he didn't know and didn't know anything about.
That's dicey in this day and age. All sorts of people abound, be
really carefull and engage full sit awareness before baring your
fangs.
I also took umbrage when Chris was chucking shit at Dave about what
allegedly Dave's wife said to Chris about Dave before she left Dave.
That was fucking below the belt and after that, Chris didn't talk to
me anymore. Fuck him. You do not do that shit to people - fine to
hit them with facts and reality, but not spurious nonsense designed to
hurt. Fuck that.
### - i remember that day very well, jeremy just turned on his long-time
friend chris for no possible reason whatsoever! jeremy got it completely
wrong and i even tried to tell him that chris hadn't meant anything by
an
earlier + generalised joke he'd made that was aimed at no one in
particular, jeremy seemed to take it very personally though as though
chris was having a dig at him? he wasn't! and so jeremy started-in
saying
some really fucked up shit, which chris then got fed-up with and fucked
jermey off with the comments you mention... at least that's the way i
read
it at the time anyway...
That's not what I read. I came back from overseas and logged in and
found Mr Rogers telling David that he was trying to gaslight Chris. I
never saw any evidence of that anytime in this group, posts were based
on things that happened or cheap philosophy not purposely falsified statements about reality to confuse the target. That's what
gaslighting is.
Chris needs to take care because his cognitive abilities are in
evident decline. I don't see that in you and I know it's not the
case
personally. I didn't see it in Dave before he left either. The guy >>>>> I
just doxed goes beyond that - he has mental health issues, as they
say
and cognitive decline would be hard to identify amongst all the
debris.
### - he has carried a personal grudge against me for years since that >>>> spat between us nearly 20 years ago, but which had diminished over the >>>> years to the point that if i ignored his occasional dig in my
direction
we
we're getting along not too badly at all, to the point that he
recently
paid me a correct complement re my apparent ability to speak
individually
to people on their own level rather than trying to drag them onto mine >>>> (a
very correct observation on his part) and as such i though to maybe
clear
the air between us and have us move-on from that...
he didn't remember it, but when i reminded him of the original problem >>>> though he reacted very badly indeed, violently, all he could see was
me
having a huge pop at him when that really wasn't the case... all his
hatred rose to the surface and suddenly it became all-out war; he
attacking, moi defending, and nada seemed to get him back off that
track
again, he was enjoying it too much! which is a shame really because i
quite liked him otherwise (i like 'all' outsiders because i'm one of
them!
they're like a different species you know? an advanced type/form of
humanity! keen observers! and potential champions if only they can
learn
to focus their full attention on the world instead of themselves...)
that in that sense i deeply regret what happened and consider that
perhaps
i should've just said nothing and continued with the way things were,
it
was far from perfect and increasingly strained, especially when it
came
to
talking about politics, but at least we could still talk? whereas now
it's
completely irrecoverable... shame about that really as i had hoped we
could've even been friends...
He's not your friend Slider, he has massive mental health issues and
at heart he's a nasty fucking bastard.
### - i knew that, but was prepared to tolerate it as long as it all
remained below a certain threshold, which it did apart from the
occasional
dig from him, i tolerated him and he tolerated me and we all got by and
On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 15:00:18 +0100, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
(snip now redundant lead-in conversation to shorten things some...)
I wonder how Dave is going? He was in my view a prig and pretentious >>>>>> with it, but had an intellect and loved the outdoors.
### - he certainly was lol :)))
he became hyper-critical though, and that's a problem as it can sour >>>>> one's
whole personality + am worried he maybe even ended up in jail due to >>>>> angrily replying to trumpy's tweets?? LOL (one can only imagine some >>>>> of
the dreadful things he must have said to him yeah? not a good idea to >>>>> threaten a potus though huh, especially trumpy!)
Yep, I couldn't abide his holier-than-thou attitude, what's known as
riding high on the horse. He also lived in the past on past
accomplishments, his software he developed decades ago for some health >>>> system or hospital - his one and only, but haven't we ALL got one and
only's?
Time to move on Dave, that's a good fellow.
And careful you don't fall off that horse...
### - he was fine-enough until castaneda kicked the bucket haha, and
then
turned into a brute towards anyone who dared question that the whole
thing
was a crock, something i personally took objection to when say some
unsuspecting newbie came along and jeremy started beating the fucker up
in
a very cruel manner & way, deliberately being very hurtful, actually
brutal as i said, and this against someone whose position jeremy himself >>> was in only a very short time before??
i could never understand (nor accept) his cruelty towards unsuspecting
people, to the point i took to pre-warning them about him whenever they
turned up heh (forewarned is forearmed kinda thing) so they wouldn't
take
too bad a beating before hitting him back and standing up for
themselves,
else he'd kick the shit outta them before they even realised what was
happening??
fuck that! i don't like that! it was totally uncalled for + some of the
people turning up and facing this 'treatment' of his were actually
lovely
+ genuine people, 'his' only intention being to quickly fuck them off
out
of this place as soon as humanly possible kinda thing; tell them about
it
yes, and let them down gently if at all possible, but kicking it into
their head + actually trying to damage them in the process so they go
away
fuming: no! and that's how he & i fell-out really :)
That's to be expected from our species. We're not too far from when
the next meal depended on how fast and sure your young male was in
catching and killing meat on the hoof.
Expect blood and guts thinking from even the most noble of our
species. We're not the peak species for lack of reason.
So don't be surpised. Your situational awareness should have picked
it up. It's in our DNA.
### - for sure it's in our dna to survive come what may: an instinctual
sense of self preservation! (e.g., one can't really be held responsible
for something (or someone) who invokes said instinctual sense of self >preservation by say somehow directly threatening one's life; i.e., you
said it sounded a bit hypocritical of me onetime when i described lashing
out in some dream with a force i couldn't comprehend nor control; that
under direct threat a sensation suddenly rose up through my feet and legs >that resulted in the most devastating blow of lashing out that kicked this >fucker right across the room killing it stone dead (some scary dream >character whose head was half the normal size of everyone else's haha,
which was very disconcerting to say the least lol) but this was, however,
a completely instinctual move on the part of my body rather than my mind;
it (my body) protected itself!
am also sure that's not all that's in our dna though, there's more,
there's an ability to be detached and completely objective too, to view >things from an alternate pov rather than always just a strictly personal
one, leave 'self' out of the equation and things look very different &
have different values, although observation suggests that most people
don't usually bother with this and are thus more likely to give ya a punch
up the throat just as soon as their 'reasoning' comes to an end lol;
there's a moment of bafflement (huh?) and then they immediately just wanna >punch yer lights out, all reasoning done! lol :)))
No he's a deeply bitter man. I don't know why - he rides bikes, theAs for Chris,
he should have stayed but I get the impression he is out of usenet >>>>>> entirely not just this group. At his age (he's older than both of >>>>>> us)
he needs mental stimulation but his fires are clearly flickering - >>>>>> compare his posts from say a decade ago with his posts now...he could >>>>>> hold a conversation then, now it's one or two words at a time and
reluctantly at that. I recommend he join at least several other
groups which are lively and intelligent - and learn to take and give >>>>>> banter rather than sink into the tar pits of bitterness.
### - he's alright imho, less intellectual yes but in a good/zen way, >>>>> and
is more content to just 'be' these days rather than trying to 'become' >>>>> etc, plus has a tendency to lean to the right a bit is all, when he
should
perhaps just remain in the middle (in the eye of the needle if that
makes
any sense?) don't worry about him though, imho he's fine, and i think >>>>> fairly content ;)
larger louder types and once had the personality to go with it. But
he has become embittered by life and dissatisfied and that's no way to >>>> spend your last few decades on this plane.
### - well i don't see it that way personally, or he's just never shown
that to me then, he's a bit right-wing sometimes in his attitudes
towards
certain things, but apart from that he's ok :)
He hasn't shown anything, it's all been hidden. It's easy to infer
though notwithstanding any attempt to conceal consciously or
otherwise.
### - have never personally come to blows with him and he's always be
alright with moi at any rate... (he did call me a cunt onetime hah, but
then i actually deserved it for the way i'd taunted jeremy heh; jeremy was >calling me a nutjob etc, and it's always been my contention that people >living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones? so i tossed that particular >stone right back over jeremy's fence by stating that in his case the apple >really *didn't* fall far from the tree! (this referring to jeremy having
told us before that his mother was a clinically certified loon for having >some kinda genuine mental illness) a very mean remark on my part for sure >(and a rare one too coz am not usually 'that' mean even under provocation) >but which must have surely shattered quite a few of his windows
(crash/tinkle d'oh!) and so chris came to his defense saying: "don't be
such a cunt slider" (haha) which was the absolute truth! but then where
was chris when jeremy was calling 'me' names huh?? fucking nowhere! i >accepted it however in good grace as i knew he was only really defending
his long-time friend in the only way he could: 'don't be a cunt slider' >ahaha, that was unusually very direct for chris! :)))
You didn't know me well enough to expect me to come to your view andAs for me? I have a diminishing but still long list of groups I
inhabit from time to time, enough to interest me and a great many
other interests in life, much of it online - in full knowledge that >>>>>> as
time progresses our cellular matrix degrades and only intellect and >>>>>> mind keep any semblance of permanency until the personal singularity >>>>>> occurs as it must.
### - i think i know you quite well really thang, our long exchanges >>>>> over
many years has ensured we know each other quite well, in that it's
impossible not to become a little bit 'like' the person you exchange >>>>> with?
(ref: that old proverb re he who fights with dragons has to careful he >>>>> doesn't become a dragon himself in the process etc, that things
inevitably
rub-off via such exchanges) and thus to know me all you really have to >>>>> do
is introspect some as my pov hasn't wavered at all over the years,
that
although you might not agree with it you're still aware of what am
'likely' to think & say on many subjects by now for instance &
vise-versa
:)
take your side when that nutcase was throwing shit at you. I detest
people who make those sort of spurious accusations without the least
evidence and cloaked by anonymity.
I took his anonymity off him and also, I have his phone number if you
want to spend some small coin on giving him a call :)
He called me a player. He has no fucking idea :)
### - lol, he defo made an error in attacking you for no reason haha,
hence my joke at the time for you to go 'do' the fucker while i chomped
on
popcorns & cola haha (i didn't actually expect you to though as i can
literally count on one hand all the peeps who've ever come to my aid,
it's
usually always been the other way around...)
No mentally ill or not, I thought he was careless potentially
antagonizing people he didn't know and didn't know anything about.
That's dicey in this day and age. All sorts of people abound, be
really carefull and engage full sit awareness before baring your
fangs.
### - well, he's gone now anyway heh, fuck him, he really 'was' a cunt! >totally unreasonable!
he's gone... let's just forget him :)
I also took umbrage when Chris was chucking shit at Dave about what
allegedly Dave's wife said to Chris about Dave before she left Dave.
That was fucking below the belt and after that, Chris didn't talk to
me anymore. Fuck him. You do not do that shit to people - fine to
hit them with facts and reality, but not spurious nonsense designed to >>>> hurt. Fuck that.
### - i remember that day very well, jeremy just turned on his long-time >>> friend chris for no possible reason whatsoever! jeremy got it completely >>> wrong and i even tried to tell him that chris hadn't meant anything by
an
earlier + generalised joke he'd made that was aimed at no one in
particular, jeremy seemed to take it very personally though as though
chris was having a dig at him? he wasn't! and so jeremy started-in
saying
some really fucked up shit, which chris then got fed-up with and fucked
jermey off with the comments you mention... at least that's the way i
read
it at the time anyway...
That's not what I read. I came back from overseas and logged in and
found Mr Rogers telling David that he was trying to gaslight Chris. I
never saw any evidence of that anytime in this group, posts were based
on things that happened or cheap philosophy not purposely falsified
statements about reality to confuse the target. That's what
gaslighting is.
### - jeremy didn't really have the discipline to debate anything all the
way through, he'd have a couple of stabs at it just to make his points but
if they failed then he quickly slipped into invective and slander where he >was obviously on far more comfortable ground heh, and was actually very
good at browbeating people into some kinda submission only this would
never work on moi so he got madder & madder lol (which i actually found
quite amusing haha)
even to accusing me of never being wrong? and which then became his
constant theme after that until i finally challenged him one day to come
up with some concrete examples of my ever being 'wrong' (if am wrong am
wrong and will admit it, but ain't gonna admit being wrong if am not
wrong!) so come on jeremy give me a list i said, and he did lol, about 6
or 7 crappy examples, all of which i quickly refuted lol so now he looked >like an idiot as well by blowing his opportunity to nail me haha, which
only made him even madder still hehehe :)))
(i just have a weird sense of humour is all and not everyone gets it heh ;)
Chris needs to take care because his cognitive abilities are in
evident decline. I don't see that in you and I know it's not the
case
personally. I didn't see it in Dave before he left either. The guy >>>>>> I
just doxed goes beyond that - he has mental health issues, as they >>>>>> say
and cognitive decline would be hard to identify amongst all the
debris.
### - he has carried a personal grudge against me for years since that >>>>> spat between us nearly 20 years ago, but which had diminished over the >>>>> years to the point that if i ignored his occasional dig in my
direction
we
we're getting along not too badly at all, to the point that he
recently
paid me a correct complement re my apparent ability to speak
individually
to people on their own level rather than trying to drag them onto mine >>>>> (a
very correct observation on his part) and as such i though to maybe
clear
the air between us and have us move-on from that...
he didn't remember it, but when i reminded him of the original problem >>>>> though he reacted very badly indeed, violently, all he could see was >>>>> me
having a huge pop at him when that really wasn't the case... all his >>>>> hatred rose to the surface and suddenly it became all-out war; he
attacking, moi defending, and nada seemed to get him back off that
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