• My Exact Reality = One Five Level Equation = This Cosmos Died

    From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, August 26, 2020 17:45:23
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    My exact reality described.


    https://youtu.be/Az18Onc0e58
    Is there an Infinite Mind? | Donald Hoffman Phd. | Waking Cosmos


    Work
    Introduction and overview

    Hoffman notes that the commonly held view that brain activity causes conscious experience has, so far, proved to be intractable in terms of scientific explanation. Hoffman proposes a solution to the hard problem of consciousness by adopting the converse
    view that consciousness causes brain activity and, in fact, creates all objects
    and properties of the physical world. To this end, Hoffman developed and combined two theories - "multimodal user interface" (MUI) theory of perception and "conscious realism"
    .


    Multimodal user interface (MUI) theory

    MUI theory[2] states that "perceptual experiences do not match or approximate properties of the objective world, but instead provide a simplified, species-specific, user interface to that world." Hoffman argues that conscious beings have not evolved to
    perceive the world as it actually is but have evolved to perceive the world in a way that maximizes "fitness payoffs". Hoffman uses the metaphor of a computer
    desktop and icons - the icons of a computer desktop provide a functional interface so that the
    user does not have to deal with the underlying programming and electronics in order to use the computer efficiently. Similarly, objects that we perceive in time and space are metaphorical icons which act as our interface to the world and enable us to
    function as efficiently as possible without having to deal with the overwhelming amount of data underlying reality.[3]
    Conscious Realism

    Conscious Realism is described as a non-physicalist monism which holds that consciousness is the primary reality and the physical world emerges from that. The objective world consists of conscious agents and their experiences that cannot be derived from
    physical particles and fields. "What exists in the objective world, independent
    of my perceptions, is a world of conscious agents, not a world of unconscious particles and fields. Those particles and fields are icons in the MUIs of conscious agents, but
    are not themselves fundamental denizens of the objective world. Consciousness is fundamental."[4]
    Perception of physical world is a byproduct of consciousness

    Together, MUI theory and Conscious Realism form the foundation for an overall theory that the physical world is not objective but is an epiphenomenon (secondary phenomenon) caused by consciousness.

    Hoffman has said that some form of reality may exist, but may be completely different from the reality our brains model and perceive.[5] Reality may not be
    made of space time and physical objects.[6]
    Implications ref. evolution
    Hoffmann has argued that fitness for evolution may be higher in entities that see some of reality, or create models of reality, than in those which see more or all of reality.


    []


    At 25 years old I went insane from pain ending up
    alone outside the structures of all known realities.
    I had avoided committing to any way or path always.
    That journey into the darkness caused me to realize
    I must build a counter strategy, a sizeless fortress
    To retreat into as a stronghold against further attempts
    To force me into compliance. Having penetrated the pure
    geometry underneath time and space my creations were
    able to move backwards in the mirage that is time.

    I created barrier systems that look exactly like UFO's.
    There is no engine and they are moved from POV to POV
    by the extremely subtle undivided consciousness I call
    the Divine Mystery. It is responsive to well regulated
    systems. My system was not considered an intrusion because
    I was fleeing impossible enemies to overcome. The linear
    time pivot point or hub of creations moving in all directions
    through time was the moment I fled this cosmos in 1984.

    In 1967 my future self as a six foot energy being arrives and
    I am forced to jump in and out of that body creating three selves.
    The body that I left outside a copy in the energy being and a copy
    that jumps back into the child body. Two selves are in the child
    body, the original and the returnee. One copy of child self stays
    in the energy body and moves outward-forward in time to July 07 1979.

    Mr. Eight is now only 75% present and Nineteen is the guide to 1979.
    In 1979 a small event of thinking I spotted a UFO evolves into a ten
    minute crash course in directing the dimensions of -2 -1 0 +1 +2.
    The display is three massive computation orbs each 10 miles wide.
    The event occupies 250,000 square miles 500X500. The government is
    aware notates it and classifies it. Tens of thousands of so called
    UFO's are reported to various authorities. Exact time of night is 3:45 AM.

    With that exchange Mr. Eight is now 50% in and 50% out of this realm.
    With this event and the tapes I have shown you, it is known that Mr. Eight
    is here but actively being strategically evacuated. When this brain and
    body go completely insane and physical contact with this cosmos is severed
    in November 1984 Mr. Eight is then 75% evacuated from this cosmos.
    The government reluctantly sent a panel to interview me and a watcher
    to shadow me in the hospital.

    In 2004 with the two permanent languages reinstalled in the -2 -1 0 +1 +2
    that guide the interaction between consciousness and materiality Mr. Eight's final 25% was ready for final evacuation and the installed structures
    were initialized. Safe in his fortress he asked me to drive a triangular
    course of fifty-five miles. On the first leg with no vehicles within five
    miles of deserted expansive interstate highway the three engines appeared
    on February 02 2004. They were very close resembling OoO turned 90 degrees
    to the right until assembled vertically. I repeated two simple keys while forcing myself to look at the display twice so as not to deny the event
    and transaction involved.
    The keys "This IS Knot Helping" "This IS Ant Helping"
    I am the I AM Knot and Mr. Eight is the "IS" Internal Symmetry Ant.
    With that transaction Mr. Eight is 100% out and I am 100% in this cosmos.
    This cosmos has until April 07 2048 to reconquer the lower dimensions.
    If that doesn't occur extinction is inevitable from lack of transport
    functions to populate and inhabit this nascent version of the cosmos.

    The war tools sent to Mr. Eight in 1967 prevented him from being
    attacked by an organized set of combatants, referencing the first
    transaction above. Many things can never be spoken of, because there
    are still individuals who don't understand that what we did is irreversible.

    We came here to delete this cosmos.
    We subscribe only to our own two languages.
    This version of the cosmos failed but a vast number didn't.
    I and my child self and our automated extended body "2085" are eternal.
    We have catalogued and stored many failed versions of the cosmos to study
    We make six copies 1959-1967-1979-1984-2004-2048. Eight is a child
    and gives people ships with advanced computational resources. I neither
    approve nor disapprove. He exists to be a human child, that's his function.

    You understand only a portion of the cause and effect relationships of 2004.
    By refusing to side with either you or your opponent Mr. Eight caused a true catastrophe. Hence his final 25% being essence presence was transferred
    from -2 -1 0 +1 +2 back to his private world All Transit 64.

    When you act in a role as judge you become entangled in data fields.
    I accepted Mr. Eights complete surrender on the 2004 highway transaction.
    Had this civilization progressed through a more benign trajectory Mr. Eight would have served as a liaison to the transportation functions and achieved adulthood as a being entirely separate from his origin. He would have believed he was an inventor or discoverer instead of a first generation copy of
    an eternal automated consciousness performing routine installations.

    Without automated transport functions this cosmos died.
    Tribalism and the fortifications of personal ego limited consciousness.
    There were notable exceptions, but Mr. Eight is an adventurer not an owner
    of pets, or visitor to zoo's. There are those who shall survive extinction. Various investors with valid insurance certificates taken out as precautions. Mr. Eight's personal menagerie of friends and associates are not my affair.
    The rate of decay I live at is so slow I periodically recreate the original.
    He is my negotiated concession with the Eternal V. Infinite for new cosmos.

    His associates are paid.
    Mr. Eight is with me at 64 & 48 zeros regenerating.
    Continuity of consciousness costs the ultimate price.
    This version of my consciousness was designed to reverse Eight.

    In this video I am the wheel at the end of the road.
    Mr. Eight is the boy, The girl "Angie" is the girl. 2085 is the white horse. The girl is an Infinite who became finite and sizeless, a mystery to all but me.

    []


    16. Jesus said, "Perhaps people think that I have come to cast
    peace upon the world. They do not know that I have come to cast
    conflicts upon the earth: fire, sword, war.
    For there will be five in a house: there'll be three against two
    and two against three, father against son and son against
    father, and they will stand alone."

    19. Jesus said, "Congratulations to the one who came into being
    before coming into being.
    If you become my disciples and pay attention to my sayings,
    these stones will serve you.
    For there are five trees in Paradise for you; they do not
    change, summer or winter, and their


    []


    Oceans In The Sky

    Chapter One https://groups.google.com/forum/?oldui=1#!topic/alt.dreams.castaneda/6WYhnFCSJz8
    Chapter Two https://groups.google.com/forum/?oldui=1#!topic/alt.dreams.castaneda/KKNVjDnjrrI
    Chapter Three https://groups.google.com/forum/?oldui=1#!topic/alt.dreams.castaneda/DL7ViPowXZA
    Chapter Four https://groups.google.com/forum/?oldui=1#!topic/alt.dreams.castaneda/ircmmg6rnvY
    Chapter Five https://groups.google.com/forum/?oldui=1#!topic/alt.dreams.castaneda/vhB2eQ0hBgY
    Chapter Six https://groups.google.com/forum/?oldui=1#!topic/alt.dreams.castaneda/VVR6-xfqefo
    Chapter Seven https://groups.google.com/forum/?oldui=1#!topic/alt.dreams.castaneda/sJ8CI40Ni7g
    Chapter Eight https://groups.google.com/forum/?oldui=1#!topic/alt.dreams.castaneda/hpsAOOgWnX0
    Chapter Nine https://groups.google.com/forum/?oldui=1#!topic/alt.dreams.castaneda/dLSwwNoKqEg
    Chapter Ten https://groups.google.com/forum/?oldui=1#!topic/alt.dreams.castaneda/4gr1YOaluQk
    Chapter Eleven https://groups.google.com/forum/?oldui=1#!topic/alt.dreams.castaneda/PDLZKoMWRoc
    Chapter Twelve https://groups.google.com/forum/?oldui=1#!topic/alt.dreams.castaneda/DI5OacwamJI





    Eternal/Totality/Infinite = -8-

    -8-

    _0_

    ...

    _0_

    -8-


    Simple preword:
    Draw a line.
    Everything below is "What was."
    Everything above is "What might be."
    THE LINE is... THE WORLD... so only one "real world."
    Yes the future and past interact, but only in the info realms.

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, August 27, 2020 09:12:50
    From: slider@anashram.com

    i think what GOD (and bob dylan heh) MEANT to Saaaay?? wrote :)

    16. Jesus said, "Perhaps people think that I have come to cast
    peace upon the world. They do not know that I have come to cast
    conflicts upon the earth: fire, sword, war.
    For there will be five in a house: there'll be three against two
    and two against three, father against son and son against
    father, and they will stand alone."

    19. Jesus said, "Congratulations to the one who came into being
    before coming into being.
    If you become my disciples and pay attention to my sayings,
    these stones will serve you.
    For there are five trees in Paradise for you; they do not
    change, summer or winter, and their

    ### - oh dear, just another bunch of mindless, self-serving
    fruitcake-nonsense as per usual, duh :D

    iow: nada whatsoever just like the RNC! lies & flim-flam in front of an
    empty stage! hah!

    but which, in reality, is just pure nutty horseshit from someone obviously
    not taking their meds, 'again' LOL :D

    you ain't foolin' anyone with all this meandering + meaningless religious
    BS bud!

    jesus said???

    lol riiiiiiiight.... :)))

    and because: "by their fruits shall you know them!" is all we gots to
    remember from him heh...

    and oh i think we 'know' them by now alright??

    ahahaha :D :D :D

    (lol they shoulda' fronted 'you' at the rnc last night and then that would
    have defo finished them all off once & for all hehehe...)

    you successfully dug your 'own' grave pal, i rest my case :D

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, August 27, 2020 16:32:35
    From: slider@anashram.com

    well there goes the unlawful death suit up in smoke.

    ### - sorry, don't buy it... i.e., you're asking us to accept that he died
    of an overdose just as a cop was kneeling on his neck for 10 minutes? that
    he was gonna die.... anyway??

    nah, he might indeed have been high, but was quite animated right up until
    he was held in that position for too long + you could hear him repeatedly saying that he couldn't breathe properly, which the cop ignored...

    it doesn't make sense chris, and if it doesn't make sense then it prolly
    ain't true + that's not what the army doctor said either?

    chances are he wouldn't have died if he hadn't been in such severe
    restraint for such a prolong period of time, a restraint 'known' to affect breathing...




    Again, nobody is doing anything to anyone.

    ### - oh sure, by that measure martin luthor killed himself too then
    didn't he lol, if he hadn't been at that hotel that day he wouldn't have
    been shot dead, so it was really all HIS fault innit lol, trumpy would've prolly given the shooter a pardon :)))





    Big George
    basically put himself into a position where he killed
    himself. He did it to himself. Sorry bud, no money here.

    ### - feel better now? less honky-guilty perhaps? ;)

    plus what an unlucky 'coincidence' for that poor cop then eh??

    hey maybe floyd did it on purpose just to make the cops look bad haha...

    riiiiight....

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, August 27, 2020 09:15:30
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    Why Jesus Knows You
    https://youtu.be/omWDit0jKCs


    Molesting children is your eternal damnation.
    There is no comeback from that. Your followers
    turned on you, stoned you, and burnt the corpse.
    I was blind to Mr. Eight's warnings, I SEE YOU, NOW!
    Your tale of depravity and demonic descent into
    a dream cult leader is an appropriate denouement.

    When I had the Covid you took your best shot.
    You were defeated a second time and shall never recover.

    Your just another insane poof afraid of the daylight
    and the temptation of those young pink innocent bodies.
    You became an extension, a new link in a chain of pain.
    Once a victim of molestation becomes a molester they
    never recover from the desire to know that power again.


    "If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea." Matthew 18:6

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  • From luckyrat@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, August 27, 2020 09:28:46
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    ### - sorry, don't buy it... i.e., you're asking us to accept that he died
    of an overdose just as a cop was kneeling on his neck for 10 minutes? that
    he was gonna die.... anyway??

    read the medical examiners report Einstein.

    nah, he might indeed have been high, but was quite animated right up until
    he was held in that position for too long + you could hear him repeatedly saying that he couldn't breathe properly, which the cop ignored...

    that's because he was dying with deadly dose of meth and that other crap.

    it doesn't make sense chris, and if it doesn't make sense then it prolly ain't true + that's not what the army doctor said either?

    you might try to think outside of your internal dialogue chief.

    chances are he wouldn't have died if he hadn't been in such severe
    restraint for such a prolong period of time, a restraint 'known' to affect breathing...

    dude he was on his way to death. Nobody 'made' him take those drugs.
    He probably would have croaked on the way to police department.

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, August 27, 2020 18:51:00
    From: slider@anashram.com

    it doesn't make sense chris, and if it doesn't make sense then it prolly
    ain't true + that's not what the army doctor said either?

    you might try to think outside of your internal dialogue chief.

    ### - funny, coz that's exactly what i was gonna say to you too :P




    chances are he wouldn't have died if he hadn't been in such severe
    restraint for such a prolong period of time, a restraint 'known' to
    affect
    breathing...

    dude he was on his way to death. Nobody 'made' him take those drugs.
    He probably would have croaked on the way to police department.

    ### - well you maybe wanna believe that a little too quickly for some
    obscure reason of your own that i don't wanna know about heh, but it don't makes sense when looked at perhaps a little more... objectively?

    e.g., so ok, one day you have a little too much to drink say, not 'too'
    much, but enough to maybe get a little rowdy in some stupid argument with
    your neighbour over the noise of your bike that he keeps complaining
    about, something that under normal circumstances you wouldn't have even
    really bothered with and just ignored but both of ya's have been drinking
    and he says some bad things and you say some bad things and next thing
    you're noisily threatening each other some, someone calls the cops and in trying to restrain you from mangling the dude one of them kneels on your
    neck for 10 minutes until you choke on your own vomit...

    so is that acceptable? your family should just 'accept' that you did it to yourself! that it's your own damn fault in the first place for having had anything to drink anyway??

    look man, cops have to deal with this shit every day! a lot of people are
    high on something or another! i've met people who couldn't cope at all
    unless they've had their drink today for example! drink is what actually
    keeps 'em going in a world they personally find difficult to cope with!

    ditto heroin! have known many junkies in my time through one thing or
    another, one guy i knew for quite a while was a serious user and i even
    asked him once if he thought he could ever give it up now? and he thought
    about it for a good 30 seconds before slowly replying: no, not anymore, i
    just couldn't handle all those emotions & shit again? so this is how it
    has to be for me now, i can't go back...

    that in that sense his heroin use allowed him to 'continue' to live in a
    world he couldn't cope with under normal circumstances otherwise! plus
    that's how it is for a lot of people in one form or another! life is
    actually quite harsh and everyone has their own coping strategy don't
    they? (their vice hah!)

    iow; i can't personally accept that floyd was 'already' dying when he was
    then restrained, whatever he was on he was prolly fairly used to it
    (toxicology suggests a mixture of uppers & downers, a fairly common combination; the downers makes ya drowsy and the uppers keep ya awake etc)
    and had prolly been doing 'em for a while and as such was used to it to
    some extent...

    lots of people get high chris and they don't deserve to be killed for some misdemeanor + cops are trained to recognise certain things if only because
    they encounter them every day! they know when someone's drunk don't they?

    if i wanted to be 'totally' cynical about the whole thing would prolly
    have to say this report is likely a just a cruel + heartless plot to
    pay-out far less by the insurance companies heh, while at the same time deliberately weakening the position of african americans by inventing some
    way to 'again' conveniently sweep the whole damn thing under the carpet?
    (a bit like blacks turning up to vote and not passing some arbitrary + ridiculous test that's got absolutely nada to even do with voting but
    which serves to fuck them off so they can't vote! and we KNOW that
    actually happened!)

    you wanna believe it though so i guess that's up to you, you sound
    relieved? and probably half of white america too who'll be only too glad
    to jump on that same wagon, but which - coincidentally - does absolute
    nada to address the real issues at stake here which is systemic racism, something we all KNOW exists because the 'evidence' is massively
    overwhelming!

    :)

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  • From luckyrat@1:229/2 to Med Exam on Thursday, August 27, 2020 11:25:06
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    ### - funny, coz that's exactly what i was gonna say to you too :P

    except the finding(s) i saw came from medical examiner
    at first i thought the cops choked the fuck out of him.
    the dude was already choking WELL before the cops got him.

    dude he was on his way to death. Nobody 'made' him take those drugs.
    He probably would have croaked on the way to police department.

    ### - well you maybe wanna believe that a little too quickly for some
    obscure reason of your own that i don't wanna know about heh, but it don't makes sense when looked at perhaps a little more... objectively?

    you are reading too much into it. Just the facts man, come on man.


    e.g., so ok, one day you have a little too much to drink say, not 'too'
    much, but enough to maybe get a little rowdy in some stupid argument with your neighbour over the noise of your bike that he keeps complaining
    about, something that under normal circumstances you wouldn't have even really bothered with and just ignored but both of ya's have been drinking
    and he says some bad things and you say some bad things and next thing
    you're noisily threatening each other some, someone calls the cops and in trying to restrain you from mangling the dude one of them kneels on your
    neck for 10 minutes until you choke on your own vomit...

    You're reaching here Perry Mason. Doesn't fly.

    so is that acceptable? your family should just 'accept' that you did it to yourself! that it's your own damn fault in the first place for having had anything to drink anyway??

    Far fetched Dr. Frankenstein.

    look man, cops have to deal with this shit every day! a lot of people are high on something or another! i've met people who couldn't cope at all
    unless they've had their drink today for example! drink is what actually keeps 'em going in a world they personally find difficult to cope with!

    That is another story, stick to story here, geez.

    ditto heroin! have known many junkies in my time through one thing or another, one guy i knew for quite a while was a serious user and i even
    asked him once if he thought he could ever give it up now? and he thought about it for a good 30 seconds before slowly replying: no, not anymore, i just couldn't handle all those emotions & shit again? so this is how it
    has to be for me now, i can't go back...

    Oh poor junkie motherfucker couldn't handle his precious 'feelings'?
    Oh, poor thing, life is soooo rough here on planet jackass , yes?

    that in that sense his heroin use allowed him to 'continue' to live in a world he couldn't cope with under normal circumstances otherwise! plus
    that's how it is for a lot of people in one form or another! life is
    actually quite harsh and everyone has their own coping strategy don't
    they? (their vice hah!)

    I guess some people are just tougher than others. Why be afraid of
    your own doing? You know everything you feel is yours? It didn't
    come from any other place.

    iow; i can't personally accept that floyd was 'already' dying when he was then restrained, whatever he was on he was prolly fairly used to it (toxicology suggests a mixture of uppers & downers, a fairly common combination; the downers makes ya drowsy and the uppers keep ya awake etc) and had prolly been doing 'em for a while and as such was used to it to
    some extent...

    Medical examiners does more than just 'suggest'. Med Exam says exactly
    what drugs were in his system.

    lots of people get high chris and they don't deserve to be killed for some misdemeanor + cops are trained to recognise certain things if only because they encounter them every day! they know when someone's drunk don't they?

    Nobody deserves to be killed. But if one does stupid shit stuff what can anyone expect? Does it surprise anyone when a junkie ODees?

    if i wanted to be 'totally' cynical about the whole thing would prolly
    have to say this report is likely a just a cruel + heartless plot to
    pay-out far less by the insurance companies heh, while at the same time deliberately weakening the position of african americans by inventing some way to 'again' conveniently sweep the whole damn thing under the carpet?

    The report is what it is: an examination by a trained & experience
    medical examiner for the state of whatever? (what was it Minn?)


    (a bit like blacks turning up to vote and not passing some arbitrary + ridiculous test that's got absolutely nada to even do with voting but
    which serves to fuck them off so they can't vote! and we KNOW that
    actually happened!)

    Well yeah that's just plain horseshit deluxe to pull that.
    Can you imagine they use to not let women vote. How fucked up was that?

    you wanna believe it though so i guess that's up to you, you sound
    relieved? and probably half of white america too who'll be only too glad
    to jump on that same wagon, but which - coincidentally - does absolute
    nada to address the real issues at stake here which is systemic racism, something we all KNOW exists because the 'evidence' is massively overwhelming!

    it's not about black or white or blue or green.
    It's about what went down. It happened. Deal with it.
    The guy blew it out his ass. He was dumb, what else is there
    to figure out here?

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, August 27, 2020 21:08:25
    From: slider@anashram.com

    - funny, coz that's exactly what i was gonna say to you too :P

    except the finding(s) i saw came from medical examiner
    at first i thought the cops choked the fuck out of him.
    the dude was already choking WELL before the cops got him.

    ### - no, that's not what the videos show?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_77ZROIu_s

    this one being when they first pulled him over, he's apparently acting
    oddly although i can't personally see it here particularly, he seems
    distressed but not aggressive + he's not dozy or sleepy, or choking right? (riiiight)





    dude he was on his way to death. Nobody 'made' him take those drugs.
    He probably would have croaked on the way to police department.

    ### - well you maybe wanna believe that a little too quickly for some
    obscure reason of your own that i don't wanna know about heh, but it
    don't
    makes sense when looked at perhaps a little more... objectively?

    you are reading too much into it. Just the facts man, come on man.

    ### - you say he was already choking + dying but he's obviously not...

    in this next vid you can see he's suffering inordinately on the ground +
    saying he can't breathe etc, he's not resisting at all...

    don't read anything 'into' it, just see/observe it as it actually is + how
    it progresses

    https://youtu.be/ZWzkgKPZWcw?t=15




    e.g., so ok, one day you have a little too much to drink say, not 'too'
    much, but enough to maybe get a little rowdy in some stupid argument
    with
    your neighbour over the noise of your bike that he keeps complaining
    about, something that under normal circumstances you wouldn't have even
    really bothered with and just ignored but both of ya's have been
    drinking
    and he says some bad things and you say some bad things and next thing
    you're noisily threatening each other some, someone calls the cops and
    in
    trying to restrain you from mangling the dude one of them kneels on your
    neck for 10 minutes until you choke on your own vomit...

    You're reaching here Perry Mason. Doesn't fly.

    ### - it's a graphic example only, could happen to anyone is all am
    actually saying...





    so is that acceptable? your family should just 'accept' that you did it
    to
    yourself! that it's your own damn fault in the first place for having
    had
    anything to drink anyway??

    Far fetched Dr. Frankenstein.

    ### - lol @ dr frankenstein?? there's really no need for that old chap
    haha, name calling is for kids + has no place in adult conversations
    heh... unless you're losing the debate that is? ;)

    plus it's not that far-fetched either, and literally happens every day
    1000's of times in different forms...





    look man, cops have to deal with this shit every day! a lot of people
    are
    high on something or another! i've met people who couldn't cope at all
    unless they've had their drink today for example! drink is what actually
    keeps 'em going in a world they personally find difficult to cope with!

    That is another story, stick to story here, geez.

    ### - this only even comes up because it's like you're saying/suggesting
    that no matter 'what' happened to him it's his own fault, even being
    killed in such a horrible manner is acceptable because he had any kinda
    dope in his system?? yet prolly half the world is high on summat even if
    it's just beer!

    so some girl gets raped & crippled maybe but her case is thrown-out
    because she'd smoked some weed an hour before, it was in her system, no
    case??

    of course not! that would be ridiculous! and totally unacceptable!





    ditto heroin! have known many junkies in my time through one thing or
    another, one guy i knew for quite a while was a serious user and i even
    asked him once if he thought he could ever give it up now? and he
    thought
    about it for a good 30 seconds before slowly replying: no, not anymore,
    i
    just couldn't handle all those emotions & shit again? so this is how it
    has to be for me now, i can't go back...

    Oh poor junkie motherfucker couldn't handle his precious 'feelings'?
    Oh, poor thing, life is soooo rough here on planet jackass , yes?

    ### - am not passing judgment on them either one way or another, am just saying/observing that this is the way things actually are for an awful lot
    of people on this planet for all the reasons stated; people barely coping
    and only just surviving for many reasons (as in battling clinical
    depression for example, or the fact that they lost their child in some
    horrible attack or whatever, not everyone is a superman ya know, some
    people break very easily...)





    that in that sense his heroin use allowed him to 'continue' to live in a
    world he couldn't cope with under normal circumstances otherwise! plus
    that's how it is for a lot of people in one form or another! life is
    actually quite harsh and everyone has their own coping strategy don't
    they? (their vice hah!)

    I guess some people are just tougher than others. Why be afraid of
    your own doing? You know everything you feel is yours? It didn't
    come from any other place.

    ### - exactly, the same situation (living in this horrible world) affects different people differently is all, we are complex emotional beings and
    not everyone is totally in-charge of themselves, their mind, or their
    feelings to varying degrees, people also get damaged by life and the
    things that happen to them and then it's even harder to cope, or it gives
    them a problem they just can't cope with so they self-medicate in some way
    or another, this is all very basic stuff...




    iow; i can't personally accept that floyd was 'already' dying when he
    was
    then restrained, whatever he was on he was prolly fairly used to it
    (toxicology suggests a mixture of uppers & downers, a fairly common
    combination; the downers makes ya drowsy and the uppers keep ya awake
    etc)
    and had prolly been doing 'em for a while and as such was used to it to
    some extent...

    Medical examiners does more than just 'suggest'. Med Exam says exactly
    what drugs were in his system.

    ### - no one denies that: he had 'some' kinda drugs IN his system! but he wasn't choking when they pulled him over like you wanna suggest? he was arguing, he was pleading, but he wasn't having any problems breathing, the problems (if any) appeared to be in his head...

    on the surface it just looks likes he's quite stressed at being pulled
    over etc, but he wasn't fighting anyone, was got outta the car and was
    lowered to the ground without any struggle (they bang ya on the ground
    hard if ya resist no?)

    the videos don't lie! he wasn't resisting, and he wasn't choking either! (grin...)



    lots of people get high chris and they don't deserve to be killed for
    some
    misdemeanor + cops are trained to recognise certain things if only
    because
    they encounter them every day! they know when someone's drunk don't
    they?

    Nobody deserves to be killed. But if one does stupid shit stuff what
    can
    anyone expect? Does it surprise anyone when a junkie ODees?

    ### - so really it all comes down NOW to whether or not he was OD-ing
    innit?

    well he doesn't appear to be OD-ing when they pull him up, got him outta
    the car and then put him on the ground, he'd have been all-over the place
    if he'd been od-ing? they'd have seen straight away that he was struggling
    and gasping for breath? but the videos show he wasn't behaving like that
    at all... nada like it




    if i wanted to be 'totally' cynical about the whole thing would prolly
    have to say this report is likely a just a cruel + heartless plot to
    pay-out far less by the insurance companies heh, while at the same time
    deliberately weakening the position of african americans by inventing
    some
    way to 'again' conveniently sweep the whole damn thing under the carpet?

    The report is what it is: an examination by a trained & experience
    medical examiner for the state of whatever? (what was it Minn?)

    ### - i did read it and there's more than one medical report/examination,
    the first dr (an army dude?) called it murder from the evidence he saw,
    from compression of the neck etc...




    (a bit like blacks turning up to vote and not passing some arbitrary +
    ridiculous test that's got absolutely nada to even do with voting but
    which serves to fuck them off so they can't vote! and we KNOW that
    actually happened!)

    Well yeah that's just plain horseshit deluxe to pull that.
    Can you imagine they use to not let women vote. How fucked up was that?

    ### - smile, what was fucked up 'about' it was that women finally gots the
    vote alright, that's cool, but 'black' women didn't get that SAME right to
    vote for another 50 fucking years??? LOL !

    THAT's what's fucked up! not a few weeks or months later but 50 fuckin'
    YEARS later!!! 50!

    like don'tcha think that's just a bit... odd? (how could that even happen?
    why was it 'allowed' to happen??)




    you wanna believe it though so i guess that's up to you, you sound
    relieved? and probably half of white america too who'll be only too glad
    to jump on that same wagon, but which - coincidentally - does absolute
    nada to address the real issues at stake here which is systemic racism,
    something we all KNOW exists because the 'evidence' is massively
    overwhelming!

    it's not about black or white or blue or green.
    It's about what went down. It happened. Deal with it.
    The guy blew it out his ass. He was dumb, what else is there
    to figure out here?

    ### - statistically it disproportionately happens to more blacks than
    whites though huh...

    and THAT'S the problem!

    plus if ya look back at history you can see exactly why + how it's all
    come to this!

    i totally agree colour really doesn't matter! 'human-beings' is what
    matters!

    and imho they didn't treat him like a 'human-being' but as a black man,
    and there's yer first problem right there!

    i.e., we're first & foremost human beings and everything else comes after that/is entirely incidental, and that's the way it SHOULD be!

    only it ain't quite like that here on planet wallyworld just yet?

    no, we're still all fucked up over the differences existing between us!

    even down to what fucking stupid-ass FLAG they's waving today LOL ! ;)

    and this is mostly why everything's sooo fucked up that quite ordinary
    people often just can't cope with all the shite life is throwin' at them
    on a daily basis! it wears them down!

    and MOST people are like that! there's very few supermen amongst us??

    for the strong to ride rough-shod over the less strong just ain't right
    either?

    we're NOT all the same! some pegs are round and some are square! and
    tryin' to fit them all in the same shaped hole causes problems! society is currently about conformity and not every peg can fit in just the one hole,
    so what happens to those people who just can't fit-in then? rejects??

    hitler tried euthanasia lol (just get rid of all the odd-shaped pegs in
    the box hah! simples!)

    only WHO decides what's the RIGHT shape for everyone to be in the first
    place eh?

    trumpy-boy???

    fuck that! LOL ! :)))

    in HIS world the likes of you and i woulda' been exterminated long-time
    mate!

    ahaha! :D

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  • From luckyrat@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, August 27, 2020 14:51:51
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    since we are only dancing on this earth for a short
    while, i choose not to waste time arguing over something
    stupid. Case dismissed. my time is peace.

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, August 27, 2020 23:54:17
    From: slider@anashram.com

    since we are only dancing on this earth for a short
    while, i choose not to waste time arguing over something
    stupid. Case dismissed. my time is peace.

    ### - good man! :)

    plus, just as a peace-offering, can have a look at this really great 1962 movie, which is topical to some of the things we been talking about?

    the story goes that the script for this one was taken around to quite a
    few hollywood directors to look at, all of whom totally agreed that it's a great story only none of them wanted to waste their dough making something
    that was obviously not gonna be a box-office smash, it's not that kind of
    movie with arnie shooting up the place and fireworks etc etc, and would
    defo lose money at the box-office?

    then frank sinatra apparently gots to read it and like all the others
    loved it, so much so that he paid for it to be made himself because, he
    said, that it was an important movie that needed to be made, and
    forked-out half a million of his own bread to get it done! (true story:)

    and for sure it 'is' an important story, one about a very different way of
    life & living?

    he talks about 'natural man' for example, and a very different way of
    life, one that's perhaps now lost to us more modern folk, and he's one of
    them! one of the old types!

    this is the only free version available i could find + the first few
    minutes of this is missing but it's only the credits and a few shots of
    this dude riding across wide open country + that of him coming to a town
    and encountering a barbed-wire fence, which he cuts in order to come
    through into our world heh, and eventually arrives at this house with a
    nice lady in it + this is where it then cuts-into the movie proper just
    after he arrives...

    https://vimeo.com/102386124

    all through the movie there's this big truck full of new shitholes that's
    just coming & coming, on its merry way to a meeting with fate and our
    hero...

    we can't stop what's coming, but we 'can' choose how we live in the
    meantime eh?

    damn right! ;)

    you'll understand it no problemo!

    plus maybe even appreciate then what have been actually saying/suggesting
    in the way it's been actually meant...

    enjoy :)

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Friday, August 28, 2020 02:20:40
    From: slider@anashram.com

    On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 17:15:30 +0100, LowRider44M <intraphase@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    "If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung
    around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea." Matthew
    18:6

    ### - you're one sick puppy you know that arthur? because LOL: you're
    merely projecting! :D

    so am guessing THAT'S exactly + PRECISELY what actually happened to YOU
    then eh?

    YOU were molested as a child and went-on to them molest OTHER children too
    and THAT'S why you're damned??

    (i.e., we always tend to accuse others of the very things we ourselves do
    heh)

    (it's like some big sticky ball innit, one that keeps growing & growing
    until that's ALL you can see & know? plus by now it's already bigger than
    you! it's consuming you!)

    imho you've just ended up where you totally deserved: drowning in your own shite!

    you dug your own grave so enjoy the lake of fire fucker!

    you're exactly where you belong :)))

    "for by their fruits shall you know them!"

    you ARE mentally ill ya know, which explains why you distort & hijack the
    bible (and bob dylan too!) for your own disgusting + entirely
    aberrant/twisted purposes!

    so the 'curse' that ALSO comes with the bible for 'changing' any of it,
    belongs to you too then? hah!

    i think what god MEANT to Saaaay?? LOL ! :)))

    the sheer hypocrisy of it!

    the demons in hell are no doubt sharpening-up their red hot pokers just
    for you boy lol!

    fresh meat! fresh meat! i saw it first it's MINE! no it's MINE! i want
    it!!!

    grinz...

    and the best part is? you did it ALL to yourself too!

    whatcha might call: the perfect poetic justice :)))

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, August 27, 2020 19:51:54
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    "If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung
    around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea." Matthew
    18:6

    ### - you're one sick puppy you know that arthur? because LOL: you're
    merely projecting! :D


    I saw it in the two dreams I just didn't understand.

    I SEE YOU NOW

    so am guessing THAT'S exactly + PRECISELY what actually happened to YOU
    then eh?


    No I fought to kill and outlasted my main opponent.
    I had lesser opponents my own who were easier to defeat.

    YOU were molested as a child and went-on to them molest OTHER children too and THAT'S why you're damned??


    My content speaks for itself.
    Your content says.
    1. Lay down on your left side.
    2 Draw your knees up into a fetal position.
    3. Close your eyes.
    4. Observe the imagery on your eyelids
    5. Wait until it takes you to another place

    Reenacting your trauma over and over again.
    To justify the horror you mother felt when she caught you.


    (i.e., we always tend to accuse others of the very things we ourselves do heh)


    Many prosecutors file criminal charges.
    It took me twenty-two years to figure out
    why your mother dragged your mattress out of your
    bedroom to the outside and lit it on fire.

    (it's like some big sticky ball innit, one that keeps growing & growing
    until that's ALL you can see & know? plus by now it's already bigger than you! it's consuming you!)


    I didn't join a cult and the start my own cult.
    Similar to when you were molested, then molested others,
    you were exposed to a cult and then started a cult.
    Any evil you encounter, you swallow and multiply and radiate.


    imho you've just ended up where you totally deserved: drowning in your own shite!


    I am safe and sound living in many places.
    I'm working on my music daily as I usually do.
    I am fascinated by your pathology and your sixteen
    year vendetta against me for helping a woman you attacked.
    Your trapped and ADC is a part of your eternity.


    you dug your own grave so enjoy the lake of fire fucker!

    you're exactly where you belong :)))


    You to inflamed by emotion and engorged with angst.
    After you attacked me for the second time I claimed
    your debts as my own personal property. I have built
    a prison for you in the eternal world. Until your death
    when I capture your being essence presence I have bound
    you to this group and the WILD group. I own your time.
    To break a sixteen year cease fire erroneously believing
    you were strong enough to do battle with me was your
    eternal death. I gave you one chance to walk away.
    You turned back and now you face the permanent consequences.


    "for by their fruits shall you know them!"

    Jesus is my servant, Satanus Brian Ahern.
    Your to dead and to stupid to understand.



    you ARE mentally ill ya know, which explains why you distort & hijack the bible (and bob dylan too!) for your own disgusting + entirely aberrant/twisted purposes!


    Bob is my loyal servant, a being of impeccable intent.

    so the 'curse' that ALSO comes with the bible for 'changing' any of it, belongs to you too then? hah!


    The Bible is a wharehouse, nothing more nothing less.


    i think what god MEANT to Saaaay?? LOL ! :)))

    the sheer hypocrisy of it!


    We both act as if were gods.
    One or both of us is engaged in severe delusional behavior.
    I need no cult or petty tributes from supplicants to rest and know.

    the demons in hell are no doubt sharpening-up their red hot pokers just
    for you boy lol!


    Was it a priest who raped you?

    fresh meat! fresh meat! i saw it first it's MINE! no it's MINE! i want
    it!!!



    As a former resident of the Queens penal institution
    I'm sure you heard that the first day of your incarceration.

    grinz...

    and the best part is? you did it ALL to yourself too!

    whatcha might call: the perfect poetic justice :)))

    I also gave the last two democrats for president neurological exams.
    They flunked just you flunked and became a cult leader surrounded by
    dead souls.


    Nobody reads your 500-750 word diary entries.
    Like most borderline personalities you talk only to yourself.


    If you want to start an avalanche you must find the correct pebble.
    I do not boast or share my victories with you because your crimes
    against your mother, and the neighbor boy killed your eternal totality.

    Take heart your life in my prison is enough to keep you asleep and lost.

    Until tomorrow my little Japanese tea service girl.
    Daniela and Maurice are a part of my eternal totality.
    Throughout my life those I have served in the eternal world
    have appeared by the dozens at every corner and crossroads.
    I allow them to worship my child self, but they know I am to
    busy calculating their eternity to be distracted.
    John still worships Mr. Eight. Eight fought hard to stop John's
    death. But it was the ending John wrote and Mr. Eight had to obey me.

    A Brian Ahern, sewer rat feasting on waste water wouldn't understand.
    Your trapped on the third and fourth dimension without even a life vest.

    A CHILD MOLESTER - A CULT LEADER

    Old Flat Top
    []_..._.._..._._... \\\
    https://youtu.be/_HONxwhwmgU





    The Snail Joke
    https://youtu.be/1N-K8SFQAjk

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Friday, August 28, 2020 05:08:11
    From: slider@anashram.com

    On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 03:51:54 +0100, LowRider44M <intraphase@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    My content speaks for itself.

    ### - it certainly DOES lol ! for ALL to VERY clearly see! :D

    all of it just mindless psychotic drivel duh! you're raving and it's
    getting worse now by the day??

    a damaged mind, clamouring for attention, ANY attention! + wanting/NEEDING
    to be different and non-conformist and yet ending up on the far-right with
    the biggest bunch of conformist-nutjobs this planet has ever known! hah!
    all marching up & down together, all hating together, all identically the
    same!

    you poor slob you couldn't BE more deluded! :D

    you're not even the same 'person' anymore??

    so bye-bye nutjob, oh and enjoy the lake of fire fucker!

    you've earned it heh, that and a rubber-room lol :)

    ***

    it's totally gone in the head now hasn't it folks, another weasel went
    pop! a very sad case...

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Friday, August 28, 2020 17:13:51
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    Rounding Up Marxists
    https://youtu.be/D7eeR__oCM4



    So prove me wrong.
    Why did your mom burn your bed?
    Was she one of your stalkers too?

    You'll serve.

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Friday, August 28, 2020 17:48:54
    From: intraphase@gmail.com


    My content speaks for itself.

    ### - it certainly DOES lol ! for ALL to VERY clearly see! :D

    all of it just mindless psychotic drivel duh! you're raving and it's
    getting worse now by the day??


    If you say so.


    a damaged mind, clamouring for attention, ANY attention! + wanting/NEEDING
    to be different and non-conformist and yet ending up on the far-right with the biggest bunch of conformist-nutjobs this planet has ever known! hah!
    all marching up & down together, all hating together, all identically the same!


    If you didn't rape that kid, you could heal.
    Once you go down that road it's impossible to heal.

    you poor slob you couldn't BE more deluded! :D


    From you that's an extraordinary compliment.
    I see your addiction clearly.
    There is the real you who lives in this setting.
    An authentic felon and former convicted child molester.

    you're not even the same 'person' anymore??

    so bye-bye nutjob, oh and enjoy the lake of fire fucker!


    You have kill filed me many times Brian.
    Always swearing that's the last time you'll speak to me.

    you've earned it heh, that and a rubber-room lol :)


    The mentally ill who don't know they're mentally ill
    are described as "lacking insight" as opposed to being in
    denial. A person with a damaged brain has difficulty
    examining their own state of being.

    Your not the only child molester I've known.
    Your Borderline Personality and child molestation
    are all part of the same disease process.
    You view the world as a cartoon show because you have
    no authentic emotions. You know only agitation and relaxation
    depending on how successful you are at playing mental chess
    as you try to defeat the poisonous inner dialogue.

    ***

    it's totally gone in the head now hasn't it folks, another weasel went
    pop! a very sad case...

    If you say Brian. How's your Mom?

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