• What the...? Is this true Slider?

    From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to All on Friday, October 13, 2017 07:04:23
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    https://www.wired.co.uk/article/london-air-pollution-toxic-t-charge


    "A startling recent report revealed that every single area of London
    exceeds the guidelines for a dangerous type of air pollution, in the
    form of tiny particles that can settle in your lungs"

    Methinks the outsider had better not go outside...:)

    More:

    "London holds the record for the worst air pollution disaster ever,
    the Great Smog in 1952 that saw 12,000 people die in just four days,
    according to The Lancet."

    A good idea:

    "From October 23, vehicles in central London will be required to meet
    minimum exhaust emission standards, otherwise they will be met with a
    daily £10 fine called the Toxicity Charge, or T-Charge. This penalty
    is on top of the normal congestion charge."

    Out of interest, how do you get around Slider? I and my wife have a
    car each but Perth is a pretty big city and we both work in different
    parts and pm2.5 isn't too bad here so we're not really adding to the
    smog. I assume you bike it but you might have a car - London is big
    and *dense* and a bike makes *sense* lol

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Friday, October 13, 2017 09:15:32
    From: slider@nanashram.com

    thang ornerythinchus wrote...


    https://www.wired.co.uk/article/london-air-pollution-toxic-t-charge


    "A startling recent report revealed that every single area of London
    exceeds the guidelines for a dangerous type of air pollution, in the
    form of tiny particles that can settle in your lungs"

    Methinks the outsider had better not go outside...:)

    More:

    "London holds the record for the worst air pollution disaster ever,
    the Great Smog in 1952 that saw 12,000 people die in just four days, according to The Lancet."

    A good idea:

    "From October 23, vehicles in central London will be required to meet
    minimum exhaust emission standards, otherwise they will be met with a
    daily £10 fine called the Toxicity Charge, or T-Charge. This penalty
    is on top of the normal congestion charge."

    Out of interest, how do you get around Slider? I and my wife have a
    car each but Perth is a pretty big city and we both work in different
    parts and pm2.5 isn't too bad here so we're not really adding to the
    smog. I assume you bike it but you might have a car - London is big
    and *dense* and a bike makes *sense* lol

    ### - london smogs were caused more by coal burning rather than traffic +
    we've had the 'congestion charge' here in london for quite some time now
    (£8 to 10 per day if/when traveling into central london...) in an effort
    to reduce road traffic air-pollution in the busiest parts of the city...
    but which is ultimately just 'yet another' road tax added to the burden of driving in the uk... (i drive a 4 year old bmw mini from new btw & a mazda
    mx5 for 12 years before that... i lease rather than buy these days,
    although i've owned a string of old bangers over the years + used to fully service them all myself while you still could, the change-over to computer-controlled cars completely changing/killing all that forever...)

    things improved here somewhat pollution-wise after the introduction of lead-free petrol some years back, a scandalous situation wherein the lead
    from petrol had been damaging peeps for decades! particulates from diesel
    fuel were also really high for years and still are! blame for the
    resulting various serious illnesses being deliberately foisted-off onto
    the scapegoat of cigarette smoking for years rather than actually tackling
    the situation due to the enormous costs involved (iow: it was far cheaper
    up to a certain point to treat all these resulting serious illnesses individually as and when they occurred rather than change the petrol
    regime, something we hotly debated a while back much to your personal
    annoyance heh, a situation that has gradually reversed over the years as medical treatment costs have literally gone through the roof generally...)

    on-paper, and in an ideal world, a bicycle would seem to be the ideal
    solution (and has been advertised/promoted as such to advertising suckers
    such as yourself heh - yeah buy a bike AND extra medical insurance!) but
    for the increasing (nay soaring) serious/fatal road traffic accidents
    between that of motor vehicles and cyclists due to the sheer volume of
    cars & trucks on the road etc

    basically only fanatics, kids & loons ride a bike in the city here as
    cycle accidents are virtually guaranteed at some point, and because nearly every fucker/family here has 2 cars (like yourself hah) if not 3! and is literally pot-luck whether you got maimed/killed or not in the process -
    the truth being that nearly every cycle accident involving motor vehicles
    if fatal/life-changing + has been that way for quite some time even
    in-spite of advertising/selling to the contrary for everyone to go-green
    and cycle...

    if you value your life (or even just having legs!) you don't cycle in
    london lol :)

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